Re: Hug raids are made of fail and aids Nothing fills me with warmth and lulz like your hug vidz. Srsly. :flowers: Keep Anonymous Working. :anon:
Re: Hug raids are made of fail and aids IMHO hug raids are a great way to spread more info and counter-act what the $cilons are saying about us. But we may need to restrict it to places with tons of easygoing people, like Anon1111 said. Honestly, I'd love to see a mini hug raid go on at my college, a lot of people here are commuter stiffs and I'm sure they'll appreciate a hug (and a brochure about Co$)
Re: Hug raids are made of fail and aids I also forgot to add that the concepts of "caring" and "empathy" are totally foreign to Scilons, and thus methods that use these ideas are highly effective.
Re: Hug raids are made of fail and aids You know, if you don't approve of them, simple. Don't do it. I don't approve of prank calling or black faxes. Doesn't mean I'm going to go "BAWWWWW" at it. Each anon does their own thing. As long as it's detrimental to the CoS, who cares? If I see a video of someone prankcalling I won't go "HAY ANONYMOUS ISN'T ABOUT THAT ANYMORE" and I would expect the same courtesy if I'm out on a mini raid with a few other anons and just giving free hugs with literature and pissing off the CoS. Besides, even Anons need hugs too, and let's face it, it's the only chance for opposite sex contact alot of Anonymous are going to get without alot of money or clorophorm.
Re: Hug raids are made of fail and aids I'm here for the combination, its fun to mess with scientologists but it is my feeling that I am helping people escape scientology that keeps me going. Call me a pussy if you want, but I will still protest, I will still meme, I will still crack jokes, I will still hug, I will still rick roll, and I will do all of that out of a feeling of caring for the people who are being harassed and separated by scientology. Thats all I have to say, FLAME ON!
Re: Hug raids are made of fail and aids He's voicing his opinion and I agree with it. Flash raids have their purpose but this one should be done.
Re: Hug raids are made of fail and aids I completely agree with this. I just would like to add my idea of "guierillia flyering": In cities with smaller numbers of demonstrants and as a support for the big raids, anons in groups of at least 3 people ( dressed up as xenus, habbos or the like) should walk around the city and give away flyers and free hugs rather than standing around. They should focus on the places where the auditors are hunting for prey and piss those guys off by explaining to anyone who gets too close to the auditors, that scientology is a dangerous cult. It would be best to rely on really informative flyers, if you can't express yourself in words very well. Of course you would have to film everything all the time (from a far enough distance like about 4 to 5 meters ) and keep a distance from the auditors (of at least 3 meters) when explaining to passants that scientology is a dangerous cult. If you are fortunate enough to have two or more groups going around like this, you should meet every few hours and exchange some lulz before continuing. Try to not get into trouble with the law. Inform yourself about local laws (about stalking and such stuff). I think it is very important that the church gets as much trouble recruiting new members as possible. (Please discuss my idea. Feel free to ask questions if you didn't get what I tried to say. English is not my first language.)
Re: Hug raids are made of fail and aids It's all about the win and the lulz, if we need to show a softer side to the public so be it. Don't get sucked into the infighting and the drama, one anonymous both destroyer and savior. CoS is so bad that we are automatically in the right no matter what anyway.
Re: Hug raids are made of fail and aids agreed 100%. i thought the hug raids sucked from the 1st time i saw them. When someone showed up at out local protest with a free hug sign i wanted to vomit.
Re: Hug raids are made of fail and aids QFT. If I wanna be around a bunch of smelly basment-dwellers standing around and hugging, I'd go to a furry convention.
Re: Hug raids are made of fail and aids I quite enjoyed the hug raids really! But true, if you don't like it, simply don't partcipate.
Re: Hug raids are made of fail and aids FWIW, my huge sign reading "free hugs" at the last protest got a fair amount of interest. It definitely helped us get some flyers out. As something one or two people are doing in a crowd, it's pretty good.
Re: Hug raids are made of fail and aids why is it needed to waste space for such topics? don't want to have hug raidz, then don't have one. Wanna prank call, who gonna stop you? But don't bawww here if you get busted or named. I think the hugs raidz are genius, making scientology eat their words, imho and the public eats this shi@ up losing people because of lackof lulz, then they are not there for the right reasons. i am here to bring down a cult, lulz welcomed, but i am not going to leave because of the lack of it.
Re: Hug raids are made of fail and aids Hug raids are too wildly popular in DC to NOT do them. Nothing else we have tried has gained as much popularity and positive response with the public. Tourists love it to death and people that agree with the message start joining the group in an impromptu fashion. If you don't like them or they don't work in your area, then don't do them. Otherwise there's no point in whining about it.
Re: Hug raids are made of fail and aids i don't personally want to hug strangers... a slightly strange fellow insisted on hugging me and my partners MULTIPLE times at the last raid, and we didn't have a free hugs sign. it kinda creeped me out. i think it's hippie stuff, but wtf if someone wants to do it, go ahead. hard to say it makes us look sillier. just be sure to talk about Co$ too. unless, you know, you're just promoting hugging. and i think the hug raids are going to be more effective if you get someone like this along with you...
Re: Hug raids are made of fail and aids I think the hug raids are great. I don't take part in them myself, and Anon111 is absolutely right about needing sensitivity to the environment, but I'm all for it if it gets a message to people about Scientology. The opposition seems to be drawing a distinction between hugs and lulz, like we have to choose one or the other. Do they just not get that the hugs are being done for lulz?
Re: Hug raids are made of fail and aids I think the people who are against hug raids are against hugs in general.
Re: Hug raids are made of fail and aids CRYSTAL. I DIDN'T READ YOUR TEXT BUT THE REST OF YOUR ARGUMENT IS ENTIRELY CONVINCING! And if you don't like Hugz, can you come up with a LULZY raid then? Come on.. do ittttt.
Re: Hug raids are made of fail and aids CRYSTAL. I DIDN'T READ YOUR TEXT BUT THE REST OF YOUR ARGUMENT IS ENTIRELY CONVINCING! And if you don't like Hugz, can you come up with a LULZY raid then? Come on.. do ittttt.
Re: Hug raids are made of fail and aids I was told at the last protest that I should have a free hug sign, and I said no. Not really into that kind of thing in general, so I'm all good on that front. Maybe I was told that because I look like I would hug random people, but I really don't.
Re: Hug raids are made of fail and aids To be honest, I really enjoy mini and "Hug" raids. I think a group of 10-15 people going out and leafleting, while doing interesting, fun and silly things attracts attention, which we can capitalise on. I think a lot of our collective strength lies in our overall anarchic, surrealist nature, which both small and large scale raids can capitalise on. "Free Hugs" are more of a means to an end, than anything else. They help to interest and engage people, and can be followed up with information. If Anonymous claims to represent total freedom, both of information and expression, then concepts of what's right and wrong behaviour are irrelevant.
Re: Hug raids are made of fail and aids Umm guys... I was under the assumption that people that did participate in "hug raids" actually like to hug people? Hell, some may of not been "from the internet" folk so the 'its not what we really are' doesn't stick to everyone in Anon. Shocking- others that don't understand the internet for the cause, no way. Sorry, I'll stop being a smart arse. \ We do what we wish here, i don't understand why people are jumping up and down "no! anonymous are not care bears!". If it motivates an anon to promote the cause, I haven't got an issue with it. As long as it doesn't alienate the public heh.
Re: Hug raids are made of fail and aids I agree with eclipse. The reason I think it is great for a certain portion of Anons who like huggz raidz to do these is that such friendliness is sooo unlike the totally UNfriendly Scilons. Scilons have hate, fail, serious faces, crimes, fair game and isolation. Anons have love, fun, lulz, playfulness, caek and smiley masks. Anons have the aces. If some anons want to play their ace of hearts it should not affect the other 3 aces from being played by whoever wants to. Being able to show how much Anon is UNLIKE Scilon is a huge win factor IMHO.
Re: Hug raids are made of fail and aids I've participated in a hug raid. The purpose of the original idea, I think, was to protest public auditing tents. "The cult of Scientology preys on people who feel depressed or anxious. They offer "therapy" which ruins lives and destroys minds in exchange for free reign with your bank account. We have a better solution. FREE HUGS FOR ALL, WE WILL NOT ACCEPT A PENNY IN RETURN." Without an auditting tent, we got interest and even enthusiasm (and a surpsising number of internet denizens who knew us by sight), but the hit rate was very low, and people were somewhat confused as to why we were in that particular place. Hugraids are THE IDEAL WAY to shut down public scifag recruitment drives - whether "free auditting" tables, Dianetics book drives, or "free personality test" bullshit. But they're only useful within that narrow context. Oh, and you must have wimminz. Males hugging strangers are considered from a distance to be either perverts or rapists or muggers. Females moderate this perception, while at the same time appealing to baser instincts. An all-female raid will get about 20x as many hugs as an all-male raid. Evenly divided, probably still around 20x (the males scare off as many as they attract). It ain't fair, but neither is life.
Re: Hug raids are made of fail and aids Aren't the protest supposed to be about the lulz anyway That was the original idea of these raids: LULZ
Re: Hug raids are made of fail and aids It can be about more than one thing at a time, princess. Don't let ADD prevent you from seeing that this Fight is going to be a hell of a lot longer than a few "funny" protests and then BOOM - no more Scientology. I have a great time doing this. But I'm also majorly pissed off, too. It IS possible to have more than one thought and/or feeling in my head at a time. EDIT - And why the HELL are we having this discussion AGAIN? Wasn't it decided LONG AGO that if you, as an individual Protester did NOT want to do a particular thing, you didn't HAVE To do it? Anonymous is not an Organization and we have no Leaders or Committees. Do what you want (keep it legal) and skip the things you don;t agree with/like. But in either case LURK MORE, USE THE SEARCH FUNCTION, STOP POSTING or STARTING REPETITIVE THREADS and STAY ON TARGET!
Re: Hug raids are made of fail and aids did a bit of free hugging during the last protest and found it a great way of engaging the public and getting them to not only to accept leaflets but to really read them. If Anons find hugraids lulzy, and it's productive - go go go Personally I find mass prank calling a shitty idea and completely unproductive, but I'm not about to start telling people not to do it.
Re: Hug raids are made of fail and aids I think Hug raids are a bit weird but are a good way to get the word out. Went on a hug raid and was fun and people did seem interested, but I can see why people don't like them. x
Re: Hug raids are made of fail and aids THE TRUTH: this anon speaks it. Imho, hug raids - and small, impromptu guerilla actions in general - are lulzy. And I'm reasonably certain that they do more to help our cause than hurt it. As far as I'm concerned, hug on Anonymous! On another note, the whole 'free speech' and 'leaderless group' argument is pretty moot. Hugraiders have the right to hug, the OP has the right to say the hugging isn't a good idea. The important thing is that we're all focused towards the same goal, and we don't lose sight of that and get bogged down in our own bureaucracy. No individual can tell Anonymous what's right or wrong - we define it by our own actions as members of the collective. If you like the hug raids, don't defend them here - get the hell out there and hug! If you don't like them, come up with a better idea and get the hell out there and do that! The hivemind demands action, not naysaying. New ideas, new enthusiasm, new LULZ! For Anonymous! For great justice!
