Inmate Number 547113 Donald Anthony Strawn

Discussion in 'News and Current Events' started by Anonymous, Aug 10, 2012.

  1. Xenu Is Lord Member

    Here is a great study on the subject

    A artical by Anderson Cooper
    Sex offenders were less likely than non-sex offenders to be rearrested for any offense –– 43 percent of sex offenders versus 68 percent of non-sex offenders. But sex offenders were about four times more likely than non-sex offenders to be arrested for another sex crime after their discharge from prison –– 5.3 percent of sex offenders versus 1.3 percent of non-sex offenders.

    Most of the 43 percent they were arested for were not sex offences. Yeas they can be cured Etc.
  2. amaX Member

    Yes, clearly I am the horrible person here. I advocate for the child victims and you choose to take up for the doctors who study them and the pedophiles themselves. It's the height of irony that you cite an FBI study in a thread started to try and help a mother who's daughters were sexually abused by a scientologist that the cult was attempting to protect when the FBI refuses to do one thing toward stopping the rampant abuses within the Sea Org even in the face of such damning evidence. And let me say this: even if pedophiles only molested one child on average? That's one child too many. Zero is the appropriate number for average of children molested by a pedophile.

    The saddest thing is he's not a troll. He believes this shit.
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  3. Anonymous Member

    Dr. Meg Kaplan

    Conclusions: This sample of men arrested for committing crimes against children and adolescents via the Internet has a high incidence of lifetime sexual and other psychopathology.

    She supports the use of castration for sex offenders.

    krueger_over.gif colleague pp2-4.pdf
    “Because of the high cost of civil commitment, it would be advisable for the State to give further exploration to ensuring that a specialized sex of- fender evaluation and risk assessment be con- ducted on every convicted sex offender prior to sentencing. For those sex offenders who appear to be potential candidates for civil commitment proceedings in the future, the Court can institute a longer sentence, thereby reducing the long- term cost by using the correctional system rather than mental health resources.

    Most of his publications are on categorizing sexual offenders.
    These people don't support you.
  4. Anonymous Member

    Forgive me, let me clarify, I wasn't meaning that there should not be notification, that would be horrendous. I meant that there is a problem occouring as an unintended cosequence of notification. I shudder at the thought of these monsters getting off the probation leash. If they cannot be locked up forever, then I would rather be assured that they are being monitored very closely, without fear that they will keep moving on exposing more and more children to them, and worse still disappearing in a paper shuffle as inevitably happens in all beaurocratic organisations. For consideration, Is there a better way?
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  5. Xenu Is Lord Member

    Not sure you read the report their buddy. She did not endorse castration, the report talks about how little it works and dose not effect real change. She does note that in some cases it might be required when there is little other choice. In that report there is a section about a study done in 1991, I think makes it clear this is not effective.

    But thank you for at least reading it. It is most than more will do. Yes it is a wild read.
  6. amaX Member

    Here's a great story about two guys who repeatedly raped a one year old boy over a three week period. One is going to plead guilty and he'll get 18 years and the other one is thinking over his guilty plea that will mean he spends 20 years in jail.

    BUT! Let's keep this in mind while we read this story. Per Xenu Is Lord:

    "Sex offenders were less likely than non-sex offenders to be rearrested for any offense –– 43 percent of sex offenders versus 68 percent of non-sex offenders. But sex offenders were about four times more likely than non-sex offenders to be arrested for another sex crime after their discharge from prison –– 5.3 percent of sex offenders versus 1.3 percent of non-sex offenders.

    Most of the 43 percent they were arested for were not sex offences. Yeas they can be cured Etc."

    Yes, they CAN be cured!
  7. timthephoto Member

    your gov responds well to media pressure, IDK wether it would cause more or better coverage if the clam angle was pushed or conveniently ignored.

    Interviews with this monster? he's not gonna give up the dirt on Scientology until he's life'd off, now about these other victims? and what about him/clams perverting-the-course-of-justice? that doesnt have statute of limitations - does it?

    85% of child abusers were themselves abused, i have no idea what proportion of abused children perpetuate the cycle as adults or how the maths pans out.
  8. Xenu Is Lord Member

    Once again, you are taking one event and trying everyone by that standard. You throw out one story and you get to decide in your head what you think to everyone, all the time Etc. I stand by my prior statment, that you have a clear need to hate others. That case is not typical and in that case I would not want to see these people out of prison so I am not sure what you think you rpoint is?
  9. grebe Member

    Guise, you know there are gray areas where people might get labeled as pedos when they aren't really pedos and that is bad. But that is neither here nor there, because this Donald Anthony Strawn dude is not sitting in a gray area. He's old guard Apollo Scientology. He probably digs Crowley and being at-cause over stuff. People like Miscavige would trust him to do jobs, because he's never going to go, "OMG I am so outraged that you are so full of shit, sir!"

    So he's going to be working in the States or he's going to disappear. Like I said, maybe St. Kitts. Or maybe Haiti, land of the hungry street urchins. Both governments are clam friendly.
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  10. Anonymous Member

    Agree, the discussion of what pedophiles are and are not is moot. He is one.
  11. muldrake Member

    This thread is more about one particular dude than the general gamut of sex offenders. The reason this particular sex offender is important to keep track of is he may still be associated with an organization that has a really bad history of putting sex offenders in positions where they have ready victims.

    If he's no longer in the cult, I think there's considerably less interest in him. Let the probation department and his neighbors keep track of him. But if he is, he is more likely to be enabled in continuing his pattern of sexual assaults.
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  12. Anonymous Member

    ^^^agree wit you Muldrake. Sick of pedo talk.
  13. Anonymous Member

    Donald Anthony Strawn.
    He's the one.
  14. anonysamvines Member

    would that it were so simple
    Not all the assaults are done with a dick.
    Some pedos get off on directing others, some on just watching live or film.
    they are even, especially, known to trade and get off on the evidence in their case files
    the only solution is life to mean life since it is cheaper and nastier than death.
    If they are out then severely restricted. If they truly feel remorse and don't want to offend again then such is the price you pay for what you did, accept it and be glad that maybe what you are going through maybe enough to stop someone else doing what you did . That of course will only be applicable to those on the fringes of trying it - the hard core die hards are too far gone and let them rot in prison
    Not all pedo's were abused
    Not all who were abused become pedos

    and even more importantly needed is effective help and support for the victims. So they get to move on past it. Part of that includes changing the thinking that a life has to be automatically ruined forever and the shame and helplessness that comes from that well intentioned notion. Yes their lives have been irrevocably altered but help them to let it make them stronger and free from stigma and lead a happy, healthy life. The best revenge is to live well and not be a permanent victim.

    let the pedos rot!
    and keep them away from kids
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  15. Anonymous Member

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  18. Anonymous Member

    Anything that can violate his parole needs to be sought What actions in prison that can extend his sentence? Anyone know?
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  19. Clamosaurus Member

    Please Tim, that stat is an urban myth. As I stated, so many times it becomes a legal defense strategy.

    Scientology are really good at formulating a defense for an easy escape for the perpetrator.

    I'll give you the example of James Stacy Barbour. Wasn't a clam when he was engaging in sex with a child(defined by LAW). He gets caught out when he's a scientologist, then the defense strategy starts out with complete denial of the allegations and charges , moves to the girl was the instigator and was willing, then onto he cops a plead deal for minimum incarceration.

    This is what scientology does to its victims of sex abuse
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  20. Anonymous Member

    prove it!
  21. timthephoto Member

    no, u go through the bbc archives. (was probably a "panorama")

    i didn't think it was and if you think carefully about the math, that could indicate a fuckton more happening in the orgs of Scientology
  22. Clamosaurus Member

    Tim, that statistic you quote is not easily quantifiable, simply because a perpetrator will often use whatever defense mechanism is available.
    Shit, what person facing hard jail time isn't going to have their defense explore every avenue for a desirable result<rhetorical>

    The moar you Nony's(sorry Tim if you don't consider yourself one in some respects) research on CHILD MOLESTATION in scientology, the moar you will come to understand "for the greater good" yadda yadda yadda-- has seen far too many children abused by hubbard's "technology".

    Yes, I am beyond passionate on this subject. NOT because I was a victim of a sexual predator(as I have stated), but because, if children are receiving the protections they deserve, this kind of abuse can be exposed and minimized. It won't go away, coz the "human condition" won't go away

    My country's own Judges/Magistrates have for far too long let CUNTS that molest/abuse children get BULLSHIT sentencing. What happened with Eastgate really pissed me off because (IT being LAW) what she did makes her an enabler. Just leik the abuse of every child attached to scientology that was buried by this vile "church" of scientology's parishoners

    I wish to finish my emotive posts on this subject with a single quote.

    From George Santayana's The Life of Reason (1905-1906) Vol. I, Reason in Common Sense

    Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.
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  23. Sorry guys no answers.
    The stats on this seem too hard to prove either way. An Interesting attempt to nail down a figure in this, see misperception 3. Other published studies seem to have wild variations in their stats but this one acknowledges some misperception, and suggests further investigation is nessesary as accurate data is hard to capture series/tandi/421-440/tandi429.aspx
  24. Anonymous Member

    Stats on recidivism of child molesters -interesting
    Definition and causes of pedophilia-not so much
  25. Anonymous Member

    THIS is the danger Strawn is to children, and Scientology enabled him. If he goes back he is not going to be monitored appropriately
  26. Anonymous Member

    DM's personality and stature are similar to a child, I hope Strawn doesn't spend any time with him.
  27. Quentinanon Member

    Two psychopaths do not play well with each other.
  28. Anonymous Member

    If they both want the same thing....................
  29. snippy Member

    Food for thought from an FBI brochure:
    Uncomfortably consistent with Scientology's view of children.
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  30. TonyStrawnsX Member

    Forget the statistics and let us for a moment, think about to whom we refer... Tony's first victim was his sister, his last victims to date were my children. There were apparently victims in between. If anyone has any knowledge of his abuse of others please contact me privately. His resentencing occurs on Oct 19th. I need any information that provides the judge with history of sphis crimes. At this point, I will accept anonomys staements as well as non anon. The reason I was his victim is that I was the one that would hold him accountable. He did not get away then and he cannot get away now! Any help is appreciated!
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  31. muldrake Member

    Make it so.

    Seriously, if there is any chance of keeping this creep away from future victims, make sure it happens.
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  32. Anonymous Member

    Can you call the Warden of the prison where he is incarcerated? Truly, this works. Tell him why you and your children are in fear. They will watch him closely and use any mistake he makes to keep him in as long as they can. Done it. Works.
  33. muldrake Member

    In many cases, people affected by a criminal's actions have some standing to give testimony or otherwise provide input into the parole process. Consult competent counsel or Legal Aid. Many local district attorney offices or courts have some kind of victim's aid, where you can find out the processes involved, if you can't afford a lawyer.

    Alternately, contact whoever is actually making this decision and ask what to do. Increasingly, prosecutorial and penal authorities are seeking to take victims' interests into consideration in making their decisions.

    My personal opinion is that Tony Strawn is not a legitimate candidate for removal of probation requirements, and I doubt he will succeed in doing so, but the nails should really be hammered into the coffin of that idea of his.
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  34. TonyStrawnsX Member

    He is currently being held in Pinellas county because of the resentencing. The judge will have all info I can gather by th nineteenth of october. I am drafting a petition for the court now. I want it to be very clear who he is so he will get he probation.
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  35. anonanchovie Member

    I do not want to derail this very important thread, but I want to show that such behavior is institutional. I think it important. I am on reflection, posting the bulk of a pm I sent to mother of those poor children. I think it is important to share. It was such efforts as this that has brought so many abusers in the Catholic Church to justice and that is beginning to impinge on the way children are treated and the practice of cover up with that institution.

    let me express my horror at what has been allowed to happen to your children and yourself as a result of the arrogance and treachery of this cult. I am so ripped up at reading these postings. But maybe some broader justice can result.

    I cannot help you directly with the up-coming hearing, I was in the Sea Org in UK and in Africa at the time period in question. But if you can give me any information on specific names of individuals who encouraged you to cover up the abuse and in the case of Senior HCO and OSA, individuals who tried to threaten you into shutting up, then this would be of great interest to me.

    Around the mid 1990s at Saint Hill a Sea Org member, a young Danish man, was posted as the Cadet Org In Charge, there were no background checks or police clearances carried out. He molested at least six of the children and one subsequently that I know of, attempted suicide. The horrific events were covered up internally, no police action nor social services action was taken. This man had committed multiple acts of pedophilia and yet was allowed, by senior Sea Org staff, loose in society as if nothing had happened, albeit in Denmark, not England. OSA had the young man shipped out to Denmark. The lady directly in charge of the cover up was LRH Communicator, (I have removed the names of the perps here for now, in case that legal action can at some point be brought to bare) and several others that I cannot remember right now.

    - deleted section due to content of an extremely private nature -

    I appreciate that this is a bit off of what you are trying to accomplish, and I dearly wish that I could help you in a substantive fashion rather than just wishing you well.

    You are courageous and I have nothing but admiration for you.

    John Duignan
    Author of 'The Complex'
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  36. amaX Member

    Thank you, John.
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  37. Anonymous Member

    Thank you for sharing, John. For all the evil in the world- there are just as many good guys.
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  38. Anonymous Member

    Never said they did. But you are selecting one recomendation out of many from many of their studies. You crealy are trying to make what they said fit your argument, truly pathetic. They don't support you either. Also I recall saying that these people were not soft on this matter and helped write the laws, so I guess you think you have made some point to a fantasy argument I did not make.
  39. This is my brother, He molested me as a child I have not spoken to him in years. He has served his time.
    and should be given a second chance.....
    You can carry you hatrid for all the men who have done you wrong and place it on Tony. You put him in prison he has served his time Move on!. I am sure he has no intention of trying to see his daughter, For his childhood did not teach him not his mother the importance of family nor a bond with anyone or anything...... Scientology Sucks you should know that you spent years in it...
    Move on with your life he is not a threat to you or your family. He will come out a broken man unable to get a job or a life. that is enough don't you think?!?
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  40. Anonymous Member

    Wow. Poor guy. Please post your contact info so that the hive can send you money to hire a lawyer to make sure he is set free.
    Thank you. So very much.
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