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IRS Tax Exemption Racketeered IRS Commissioner Fred Goldberg

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  1. ArnieLerma Member

    Re: IRS Tax Exemption Racketeered IRS Commissioner Fred Goldberg


    I have a memorable 1st hand experience...

    Ive had 16 years of anti-scientology efforts..
    By 1998, it had become difficult to get people to take flyers around the DC Org, which is referred to as "The MArtian Embassy" being near DC's Embassy row...
    I tried many different slogans, one that worked VERY well was

    IT IS WORSE THAN YOU THINK

    Uniformally people would react very well and take a flyer, all except one man...one old fellow, who turned and almost shouted at me "HOW DARE YOU ASSUME I DON'T KNOW HOW EVIL THEY ARE"

    I stepped back a bit, and took a breath...and said, please explain..

    He said: "I am a retired IRS CID (Criminal Investigations Division) and I KNOW WHAT THOSE BASTARDS ARE CAPABLE OF"

    I asked him if he might say more but he said he could not...that he was retired, and couldnt say anything about what transpired when he was a CID Agent for the IRS..

    Whatever they did, made that one old man FURIOUS over a decade later

    Arnie Lerma
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  2. ArnieLerma Member

    Re: IRS Tax Exemption Racketeered IRS Commissioner Fred Goldberg

    An ex-member, whom I know personally, told me this story:

    She was 15 years old, and the year was 1991 - I think..
    She met a boy, 19 on the strip, Hollywood Blvd, his father was the Southern California IRS District Commissioner (or something close to that)..

    A Year later, in 1992, her dad, who was an active clam, and had abandoned her family to live in poverty, while he spent everything he earned from his engineering firm on Scientology, found out about this 'affair' she was having.

    HE forced her to join the Sea Organization and tell them ALL ABOUT IT.

    In 1993 the IRS granted them TAX Exemption.

    She being 15 at the time, and he being 19, makes him guilty of statutory rape under california law.

    I am willing to provide details and DOX to Federal Authorities only.
    Arnie Lerma
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  3. ArnieLerma Member

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    And Ex member who had a friend working in Fred Goldberg's law firm, a partner, reportedly asked Fred to step into his office one day and he asked him if he would tell him about the Scientology tax exemption..

    Fred's only reply was something like "Say one more word about scientology and I will tender my resignation from this firm"
  4. ArnieLerma Member

    Re: IRS Tax Exemption Racketeered IRS Commissioner Fred Goldberg

    There was PI named (Sounds like cry-wiki) Kriwicki (spelling) who had been hired to entrap an IRS official using a prostitute and get it on Video. Source for this... ask Keith Henson...or Tom Klemesrud.

    In 1997, a PI who was investigating the frame up of a friend of mine for bogus criminal charges in Wash DC, told her, that he had been hired to retrieve a Video Tape made of an IRS Official in a compromizing situation.
    He also quipped that Scientology had a reputation in Washington DC amongst PI's of being known to hire more call-girls to target Federal and Congressional/Senate officials than any other organization in the united states.

    ok, I think I have given you guys the tidbits that I was/am unwilling to web.. you may quote these posts.

    arnie

    AND I publicly endorse the PARVENT nick above, as a RELIABLE SOURCE.
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  5. indeedindeed Member

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    I think it's definitely possible that these two IRS agents died under apparently suspicious circumstances, but I have yet to see anything that supports this idea. I think it's clear that CoS isn't nice to its enemies and at times targeted officials as well. Following is a quote from the 1997 NYT article:

    Still, I would LOVE to see ANY dox on the dead IRS agents, what were their names, how did they die, how was their death considered suspicious?
  6. ArnieLerma Member

    Re: IRS Tax Exemption Racketeered IRS Commissioner Fred Goldberg


    Let me pose a scenario...

    You have just helped found one of the first anti-cult movements.
    You are driving down the highway at 50 mph, and a car pulled out of a driveway and you broadside it.
    You are killed in the crash. Your husband has a heart attack and dies a few weeks later.
    Did Scientology kill you?
    Do you have any DOX?


    --------------------------

    Everything recounted above happened to Ida Camburn EXCEPT they managed to swerve and barely miss the car.

    A reporter from CNN interviewed me just after the RAID in 1995, one who had gotten famous during the Gulf War, a month later he was the victim of a hit and run accident while he was jogging...

    Richard Leiby (Washington Post) got a divorce. OSA DC Sylvia Stanard was calling up his ex.. trying to get his ex to 'destroy him utterly'

    Sylvia Stanard OSA DC supplied a lawyer to MY ex during custody case in Georgia.

    A recent Ex-member, found OSA DC Sylvia stanard sitting with her ex in court during their custody case.

    I barely missed a car also, that pulled out suddenly, one day when I was driving with Steve Hassan enroute to an intervention of a Sea Org member.

    On a flight back from Newark air[port with Professor Dave Touretzky in his twin engine, he had parked and asked and PAID, and had the receipt, for AV Gas to be topped off in his tanks before his return flight from a cult convention. When we left to come home, it was 1 AM in the morning or so, and at altitude, somewhere over Maryland, he was tapping his gas gauge, and said, uh oh, I dont have enough gas to get home to pittsburgh, Im going to have to stop and get gas cause there is no gas in Leesburg VA(at 2 AM in the mornihg where he was flying me ) Signature Flight service said that hat never happened before, that a customer had paid for gas and they had not filled the tanks.before takeoff.

    What if he had not noticed until 3 AM somewhere in the Mountains of Pennsylvania, when his engines stopped running??

    Not everything that goes bump in the night is OSA...

    However, odds are, if you are actually DOING STUFF that interferes with scientology's ability to extract money from rubes, rather than just TALKING,, you will find out soon enough, and have no question, that they do weird , evil and icky things to mess with your life, and to mess with those you love.



    Day 2, page 23, Clearwater Commission Hearings, L Ron Hubbard's SON speaking under oath:

    "my father always felt that he was above the law because he had created the law. He created whatever rules, regulations, and laws to be lived by. There was only one sin in Scientology, which was repeated to me at least a few thousand times, which is, getting caught."

    Remember this one line of this post - Webbed HERE
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  7. A.Non Hubbard Member

    Re: IRS Tax Exemption Racketeered IRS Commissioner Fred Goldberg

    CRY "WIKI" AND LET SLIP THE EDITORS OF WAR
  8. Re: IRS Tax Exemption Racketeered IRS Commissioner Fred Goldberg

    1. I VERY much appreciate this information. I've been trying to gather a lot of it, and this thread made it easier.

    2. For what it's worth, I have started exploring some potential sources of support for the FOIA request that has been denied so many times. I've been hitting up some big guns. I will let everyone know what I discover.
  9. AnonyMary Member

    Re: IRS Tax Exemption Racketeered IRS Commissioner Fred Goldberg

    ^^^^
    THIS www.whyaretheydead.net has many docs.
  10. TinyDancer Member

    Re: IRS Tax Exemption Racketeered IRS Commissioner Fred Goldberg

    DO IT, ARNIE!!!
  11. Anonymous Member

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    Partially-related query.

    The data that Larry's lawyer collected from RVY, and was gettng ready to use before CoS caved... Is that still around somewhere?
  13. ArnieLerma Member

    Re: IRS Tax Exemption Racketeered IRS Commissioner Fred Goldberg

    yes... but, Mr Wollersheim has not granted permission for it to be released to the net.
  14. A.Non Hubbard Member

    Re: IRS Tax Exemption Racketeered IRS Commissioner Fred Goldberg

    I've come to the conclusion that Wollersheim is useless when it comes to taking down the CoS.
  15. Graham Berry Member

    Re: IRS Tax Exemption Racketeered IRS Commissioner Fred Goldberg

    This issue is narrow, easily explained and widely supported.

    Surely with emails, email blasts, snail mail, fliers and visits to The Hill, Treasury/IRS/DoJ, we can raise the visibility of this issue so high that the report gets released and, in the process, the revocation of the IRS exemption and the IRS bill to Co$-DM/Rathbun/Rinder for over $3 billion in back taxes, interest and penalties.

    Who's ready to help with the plan, dox and addresses, and co-ordination?
  16. Anonynamefag Member

    Re: IRS Tax Exemption Racketeered IRS Commissioner Fred Goldberg

    You have my sword.
  17. Your Mom Member

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    That sounds dirty...lol
  18. 3rdMan Member

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    For those of us who want to try the petition they tried in Texas, this will be useful info.
  19. Re: IRS Tax Exemption Racketeered IRS Commissioner Fred Goldberg

    WASHINGTON (AP) — The Obama administration advised federal agencies on Thursday to release records and information to the public unless foreseeable harm would result.

    Attorney General Eric H. Holder Jr. issued new guidelines fleshing out President Obama’s order of Jan. 21 to provide more government records to the public under the Freedom of Information Act, whenever their release is not prohibited by another law.

    Mr. Holder also urged agencies to voluntarily make information public in widely usable formats even before it is requested.

    The new standard replaces a more restrictive policy imposed by the Bush administration.
    Mr. Holder also directed that the new standard be used to re-evaluate the government’s position in some pending lawsuits challenging prior decisions to withhold records.

    He said the new guidance should be applied to those cases if practicable when there was a “substantial likelihood” that it would make more material public.

    Many of the pending lawsuits challenge the Bush administration’s refusal to release legal arguments supporting antiterrorism measures, including the wiretapping of Americans in this country without a warrant and the detention and treatment of terrorism suspects.

    The Justice Department is responsible for overall government guidance on how to obey the records law because its lawyers defend agencies in court when they are sued in cases of disagreement over decisions to withhold records.
  20. TomVorm Member

    Re: IRS Tax Exemption Racketeered IRS Commissioner Fred Goldberg

    An excellent report by the Treasury Department to Congress, which covers in detail the argument that IRS section 6103 (FOIA requests) is said to conflict with "private return information" is online (as a long download).

    This would appear to be the basis for objections by the IRS to releasing critical information on how Scientology obtained its federal tax exemption in 1993 (said to be within TIGTA report ROI # 8-9801-0002, as identified by IRS press release #IR-97-50 dated December 31, 1997).

    http://www.treas.gov/offices/tax-policy/library/confide.pdf
  21. fitch2000 Member

    Re: IRS Tax Exemption Racketeered IRS Commissioner Fred Goldberg

    sounds like more bs to me

    Thanks Obama!

    that helped a whole lot :(
  22. exOT8Michael Member

    Re: IRS Tax Exemption Racketeered IRS Commissioner Fred Goldberg

    I wonder if there could be a class action lawsuit against the IRS for falsely giving Scientology tax exemption when it clearly does not qualify and has since abused the status to harm large numbers of members and ex members, myself included?
  23. TomVorm Member

    Re: IRS Tax Exemption Racketeered IRS Commissioner Fred Goldberg

    What is needed is a test case.

    Mr. "Raw Meat" visits a Scientology office and enrolls in a Scientology course
    (one that is promoted as tax-deductible), finishes it and keeps the receipt.

    Mr. Meat then visits another religious institution and enrolls in a similar "religious
    education" course, completes it and keeps the receipt.

    By April 15th of the following year, Mr. Meat files an itemized tax return form
    (not 1040EZ) claiming deductions for both courses.

    If the IRS questions the deductability of the non-Scieno course (while accepting
    the deductability of the Scieno course), Mr. Meat appeals with the IRS then files
    a case with the US Tax Court.

    Judges of the Tax Court, presented with a legally acceptable petition, either strike
    down the Scilon tax exemption (or extend it to all IRS-recognized religions, citing
    the 14th amendment).

    Mr. Meat becomes a hero to all religious schools (or is found upstairs with a hose
    from his automobile exhaust in his bedroom window).
  24. Anonynamefag Member

    Re: IRS Tax Exemption Racketeered IRS Commissioner Fred Goldberg

    I think he's onto something.
  25. chrisanon Member

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    This actually sounds a little bit like the Sklar case.

  26. TomVorm Member

    Re: IRS Tax Exemption Racketeered IRS Commissioner Fred Goldberg

    It's based on the Sklar case, but this approach makes a more direct comparison and is legally more actionable (because the Sklar's never took a Scieno course, so establishing their standing was a significant problem).

    The more-direct comparison would also respond to a declaration by a judge, who wanted to rule on the case's merits (of the Scieno tax exemption) but instead was tied up in legal procedure (by the IRS attorneys).
  27. Wilsonparker Member

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    It has been talked about for years now. What are the tax amount levied on this? Has IRS gotta do anything with it?
  28. Uncle Bruce Member

    Re: IRS Tax Exemption Racketeered IRS Commissioner Fred Goldberg

    Very interesting idea. However, once again, Who's going to bell the cat? It would take a lot of money to pursue such a case and the only payoff at the end would be a ruling on the deductions. I imagine there are people, like the Sklar's, who would be willing to spend money for the principle of the thing, but until their found it can't be done. Unless.......
    I'm not a lawyer, does anyone know if a successful suit against the IRS could collect legal fees?
  29. anonhuff Member

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    Do scientologists get to deduct scientology books?
  30. TomVorm Member

    Re: IRS Tax Exemption Racketeered IRS Commissioner Fred Goldberg

    There's a way to approach legal pleadings, that is most cost-efficient.
    Simply stating the facts of the case, then "borrowing" most of the case
    law citations from the Sklar's filings and asking an attorney to sign them,
    avoids most of the time and trouble of building a new case from scratch.
  31. muldrake Member

    Re: IRS Tax Exemption Racketeered IRS Commissioner Fred Goldberg

    Of course, it makes your legal argument subject to whatever ruling comes down from the Supreme Court, lowering the chance any appellate level court hears your case. More likely, they will wait for SCOTUS to decide and then follow their lead.

    Further, if SCOTUS actually grants cert and rules against the Sklars, it would make your case frivolous, as there would be contrary authority. At the very least, you'd have to argue why you weren't like the Sklars.

    What is more likely, though, is that they deny cert. After this, if a potential litigant is NOT in the 9th Circuit, it would not be frivolous to make the same arguments. If a litigant wins on those arguments in another Circuit while the 9th Circuit disagrees, that means there is a conflict among the Circuits, the very situation that invites Supreme Court review. I wish someone luck in another Circuit, at some point. Jews or Catholics (perhaps for CCD) seem to be best positioned to make this argument.

    While I'm skeptical that SCOTUS will ever intervene in this situation based on an argument like the Sklars (and would be absolutely delighted to be wrong and am crossing my fingers hoping to be wrong), I really don't think the IRS will be able to brush the Scientology scandal under the rug forever.
  32. Anonymous Member

    Re: IRS Tax Exemption Racketeered IRS Commissioner Fred Goldberg

    9000 lawsuits,

    not a class action.

    IRS violated the limits of the 1st amendment.
  33. DeathHamster Member

    Re: IRS Tax Exemption Racketeered IRS Commissioner Fred Goldberg

    Monique Yingling names a few more names to keep track of:

    The IRS acted properly March 20, 1997, Monique Yingling, Letters, St. Petersburg Times
  34. Anonymous Member

    Re: IRS Tax Exemption Racketeered IRS Commissioner Fred Goldberg

    Howard Schoenfeld
    Advisory Council

    Howard Schoenfeld is a director in PricewaterhouseCoopers' Washington National Tax Services practice. He brings more than 30 years of experience at the IRS involving legislation, litigation, and administrative issues relating to tax-exempt organizations to his work with PwC's clients.

    From 1979 to 1995, Mr. Schoenfeld served as Special Assistant for Exempt Organization Matters to the Assistant Commissioner for Employee Plans and Exempt Organizations. In this position, he was one of the highest executive-level career staff persons in the IRS. Mr. Schoenfeld provided policy-level advice and guidance on all technical and enforcement matters relating to nonprofit organizations, and he handled matters relating to legislation, litigation, and administrative issues in the exempt organization area.

    Mr. Schoenfeld led the development of Form 990 and Form 990-PF annual returns, and coordinated their implementation with states, academic groups, and the public. He pioneered the application of innovative administrative resolutions to a number of high-profile cases that presented special challenges to tax administration because of complex technical issues and the inadequacy of existing laws.

    Previously, Mr. Schoenfeld held the position of the Chief of the Procedures Section in the IRS Audit Division's Exempt Organizations Branch and was Technical Advisor to the Assistant Commissioner (EP/EO). He began his IRS career as a revenue agent and then became a senior tax law specialist in the Exempt Organizations Technical Division.

    Mr. Schoenfeld served as liaison and represented the IRS before Congressional staffs, other government agencies, practitioner and taxpayer groups, and at international meetings. He has been an IRS witness at several Congressional hearings. He is a four-time recipient of the Senior Executive Service Special Act Award and the Commissioner's Award.

    Mr. Schoenfeld received a B.A. in Accounting and LL.B. from the University of Baltimore. He has spoken at many tax conferences on exempt organization matters and is adjunct faculty at the Johns Hopkins University Institute for Policy Studies.

    Howard Schoenfeld
    Director, National Tax Services
    Pricewaterhouse Coopers
    1301 K Street, Suite 800W
    Washington DC 20005
    (202) 414-1000 (phone)
    Howard Schoenfeld
  35. Anonymous Member

    Re: IRS Tax Exemption Racketeered IRS Commissioner Fred Goldberg

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  36. Obi-Wan-anon Member

    Re: IRS Tax Exemption Racketeered IRS Commissioner Fred Goldberg

    Except for the fact that the agreement has never been available to the public, has it?

    True. Let the public see the documentation, and let them decide. As long as a portion of the record is still hidden (and sooner or later it WILL leak out), there's no way to see if the IRS acted properly.
  37. The Anonymous Member

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    Have you tried writing an extreamly polite and well structured letter to your local member of government about this issue or the department of your government responsible for internal policement. In my country if something like this occured my first port of call would be my federal members office asking for an explanation, they are all after votes so should look into it right away.
  38. Anonymous Member

    Re: IRS Tax Exemption Racketeered IRS Commissioner Fred Goldberg

    Attention NYC Fags:

    The man who established Scientology as a good and holy religion in the United States, after finding that Scientology was "exclusively religious and charitable," deserving of taxpayer subsidization, then sent his learned findings out to every other country on Earth urging similar treatment; is now teaching law school at New York University in New York City.


    ecm_pro_058170.jpg 1011.jpg

    https://its.law.nyu.edu/facultyprofiles/profile.cfm?section=bio&personID=32477

    Let's put the blame where it belongs.
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  39. Anonymous Member

    !!!!!!!!

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