Is Aaron a plant? And Marty Rathburn

Kha Khan · Nov 21, 2009

Is Aaron a plant? And Marty Rathburn

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Is Aaron a plant? And Marty Rathburn

Since my posted Video on youtube, very blunt accusations have come forward to the effect of:

If this gets me removed from the boards, then SO BE IT.

1. Is Aaron A plant?
2. Is Aaron Attempting to undermine Scientology?
3. Is Aaron attempting to undermine Marty Rathburn?

Let me answer my critics in full...

1. Is Aaron a plant?

The answer is no. My history of employment with the Sea Org is well known to most. Clearly, the Church hates me. My Video is clear evidence of that. I have a distain for their actvities that is more vocal than most. And I am not a coward and I do not have a problem putting my name out into the public media.

I have heard ridicuous statements asking if Aaron really went to the Ship.

This is amazing to me seeing as The Chief on board the Ship, who was French was sent BY ME for posting to the Ship. And I was recognized by him when I went to the Ship in March 95 for the INCOMM mission. I also knew Greg Wilhere was on the ship because that's who I was sent to see. Also CMO Ship crew recognized me. Two were previously form LA - and one had been moved over into the IAS. I got an entire tour of the ship which included the stupid "White Room" with big fat cuban cigars.

Ask Fluer Thomas (CO CMO IXU), Amy Mortland, or the RTC Reports at that time who was my mission I/C. Or Deputy Senior C/S Int at the time who sec checked my arse. Or Liz Ingber. Or Luca Saccomanno, or the CW Computer operator who was my first misson point stop, or Ken Pearse who's room I crashed for a 4 hour sleep over at FLB etc. etc.

I think that there are just a few ex-Int staff out there that are surprised that they didn't even know about the mission. That was the idea people... it was off the books.

Or, if you have government contacts, check the flight records in early march for an Aaron Tweddell travelling on Aruba Airlines.

2. Is Aaron attempting to undermine Scientology?

The answer is yes.

It is junk, even the original stuff.

Sure, lots of basic stuff works. No arguement there. But the later stuff is based off more unrealistic junk that Star Trek XIII.

Ron was just upset someone beat him to "Star Wars". Jesus... Revolt in the stars was written ages ago. The E=meter was invented prior to his use of it, and Scientologie (yes, Scientologie) and other great works had loads of influence on Ron.

Ron: Mr. Great technology. Knower of all. Married and Divorced many times. Wife imprisioned. Sons killed and murdered. Died with his best friends all having been declared....

Lets look at Number Two: DM....how is his marriage? His children? Relations with family??? Friends? Nope. None.

Lets look at John Travolta... auditing didn't work for his son. Shame on that, but the medical treatment might have...

So...if there are any people out there that have recalled hundreds of thousands of past lives and can simply draw for me what you looked like or Planet R2D2, let me know... or what language you spoke...or one piece of technology, gimme a call and let me know.

It is a simple test. It isn't a trick test. Look - there is the Sky, what color is it? Answer the question.

But if your going to use the Blind Faith line on me, then go join Ql-Queda, I have no time for advanced thinking people that can't calculate what's right under their noses.

Do you have a problem with that Mr. Rathburn?

You do?

Then label me Suppressive and good luck on your new Sea Organization. Hey, I am Anti Scientology, and what are you doing? Your trying to get people to doubt me.

Sounds familiar to me...

Well done. Your the classic example of the Ultimate Engram trap, your now going to become what dominated you - your the new D.M.. Let me know how that goes for you.

You got bullied and you cried. Whaw Whaw whaw. And now your going to become the bully. Good for you. Let me know what part of the tech on Engram identification and valences you did not fully understand.

3. Is Aaron Saxton attempting to undermine Marty Rathburn?

The answer is yes. The last 48 hours have certainly shown his true colors.

It has become clear as dogs balls that your intentions relate to the re-establishment of the Scientology Religion. People sending private messages around raising doubts...askign questions....

Sounds like the brand new OSA Marty is starting up using the same BS techniques are paranoia.

That is at cross purposes with most peoples desires to eliminate the Sea Org.

Marty, you are not intelligent enough and have not been out long enough to even know what you are talking about. You were just another Sea Org member, duped and again, may I remind you, you are no more OT or smarter than anyone else on these boards.

Yawn. Yawn Yawn. I have met Ron's Auditor. Otto Roos. Who also did the L12 Tech. And was Rons Right hand man.

Yawn Yawn Yawn. Go to the movies together you two, buy some popcorn and figure out how many suckers you can get. He talks like you Marty. You both should get married and have little "I will save the world form DM and give them real tech" implanted babies together.

And just because you were IG Tech, it simply proves that you were more duped than even most. Not the the other way around.

The bottom line is you have not sat back an evaluated Scientology.

You also have failed to voice your concerns directly to me and have used classic Sea Org techniques to use people as your "agents" to plant mistrust into others, sendng them messages, making comments.

You are a coward.

A total Coward.

A complete, and utter coward and are as inspiring to me as a little doll of Ron sitting on my dresser lecturing me on "If your antagonistic you have overts"

Yes I do have overts. What has that got to do with anything?

And another overt would be to let you get off.

You can forget that one coming about.

And don't forget, if you have a question for me, have the balls to answer it.

Hopefully DM didn't slap those off you when he hit you in the head...dickhead.

Now I am going to go off and fight the real enemy here - THE SEA ORGANIZATION AND SCIENTOLOGY.

I suggest everyone else stop farting around with paranoia and gossip and get to the job at hand.

I will not be around forever, just the next few months to get done what I promised and then whoever wants to start whatever can. But can we all agree regardless of opinion that there is a window of opportunity here and this Dev-T gossip and second guessing is WASTING everyones valuable time.

So Marty, DO YOU HAVE A QUESTION FOR ME?

_You_ · Nov 21, 2009

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I'm in love.

EyeOnSci · Nov 21, 2009

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I liek this guy. A breath of unindoctrinated, ass- kickin' fresh air.

RaddaRadda · Nov 21, 2009

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I like the cut of Aaron's jib.

The world needs more ex-scientologists like him.

Ironhead · Nov 21, 2009

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we're all gay for aaron now.

he's a straight shooter, and I respect that.

q_p · Nov 21, 2009

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Amazing. Simply amazing.

Thanks to Aron and many hopes go out to him that his actions will cleanse the taint from his soul. He's obviously a good guy for wanting to do the right thing.

Marty, on the other hand, won't seriously help stop the abuse against his fellow Scientologist. Going to the police with what he knows, he could shut down the abuse machine but he's trying to protect it for himself.

How much lower can you get than that?

amaX · Nov 21, 2009

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Just one question for Mr. Saxton: "Baby, where have you been?"

Mister B · Nov 21, 2009

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Aaron is becoming my hero.

Rinder and especially Rathbun have motives beyond getting Miscavige out and have not come completely clean publicly about what horrid things they did to bring about the current culture and reputation of and in CoS. Those two had more influence than Aaron ever did.

If they were to be as much of a straight shooter as Aaron is, they could do so much more damage to the cult. It would benefit everyone for them to open up about what abuses they commited. But they aren't. Why is that?

While Rathbun and Rinder are coming out and speaking against CoS, the situation really is a "my enemy's enemy is my friend".

_You_ · Nov 21, 2009

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Mister B;1074505 said:

Aaron is becoming my hero.

Rinder and especially Rathbun have motives beyond getting Miscavige out and have not come completely clean publicly about what horrid things they did to bring about the current culture and reputation of and in CoS. Those two had more influence than Aaron ever did.

If they were to be as much of a straight shooter as Aaron is, they could do so much more damage to the cult. It would benefit everyone for them to open up about what abuses they commited. But they aren't. Why is that?

While Rathbun and Rinder are coming out and speaking against CoS, the situation really is a "my enemy's enemy is my friend".

I have heard nill from Rinder, so therefore, I am unable to lump him in with (Hubbard is God) Rathbun

SuperChipcat · Nov 21, 2009

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I will hump Aaron, and then we can throw rocks.

_You_ · Nov 21, 2009

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AnotherAnonymous1;1074520 said:

Gots lots of time for this fukker.

Yeah, he was a total dick as a Scieno and said so, but now he is trying to help rid us of the cancer. Unlike Rathbun and his little wank-fest of sycophants who want to blame DM and then tl;dr. It is jerks like Rathbun who just don't get the fact that it is the "scriptures" that lead to the abuse. Ergo, the [STRIKE]"religion"[/STRIKE] cult itself is evil.

Yup, I said it.

wat

_You_ · Nov 21, 2009

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Rat-Burn knows where the money is. He's familliar with "tech" that has worked as far as getting it goes. He's the proverbial "old dog". Can't learn how to sit now mates, too old in the game he's been played around by and played for so long. He's probably only a lesser bully than DM in the way that he's been a servant of DM and not led the throng.

He'll critique every stab at $cientology tax exemtion, "old tech", Ron.... He's in it for the money and the kick of being in controll.

Otherwise he'd done what Brave Aaron has done and admit to being a real shit and show remorse.

Those who chose to believe Rathbun or any "row row the old tech still works"-guys are just those who have yet to realize it's ALL made to take your shit and leave you with nothing but a will to abandon all personal safety and personallity in the hands of someone who thrives on what you gave. You get nothing real in return.

Aaron, fuck 'em over mate. Good on ya.

_You_ · Nov 21, 2009

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AnotherAnonymous1;1074526 said:

Translated for you moran:

1. Aaron is trying.
2. Rathbun is a cunt.
3. Scientology is inherently evil.

Get it yet faggot?

I think you just lost points for calling someone a "moran"

SuperChipcat · Nov 21, 2009

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_Bruce_;1074527 said:

I think you just lost points for calling someone a "moran"

I smell sarcasm via typo.

Also, I want to drink with Aaron.

A lot.

With cursing.

_You_ · Nov 21, 2009

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_Bruce_;1074527 said:

I think you just lost points for calling someone a "moran"

No, points would have been lost if they spelled it "moron", moran.

SuperChipcat · Nov 21, 2009

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Is _Bruce_ the anon post of the day?

Must...read...before...poasting...

_You_ · Nov 21, 2009

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I like this Aaron guy.
Marty can kayak the fuck over the edge of the world for all I care. Aaron has fucking BALLS, and he sees and tells it like it is.

JohnnyRUClear · Nov 21, 2009

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Aaron's been on the scene what, a week? And he's already a champ. Mahty's been skulking around for months and everyone hates him.

Figure it out, Mahty. It's not that complicated.

_You_ · Nov 21, 2009

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Mister B;1074505 said:

Aaron is becoming my hero.

Rinder and especially Rathbun have motives beyond getting Miscavige out and have not come completely clean publicly about what horrid things they did to bring about the current culture and reputation of and in CoS. Those two had more influence than Aaron ever did.

If they were to be as much of a straight shooter as Aaron is, they could do so much more damage to the cult. It would benefit everyone for them to open up about what abuses they commited. But they aren't. Why is that?

While Rathbun and Rinder are coming out and speaking against CoS, the situation really is a "my enemy's enemy is my friend".

LOL Aaron is not the sociopath here and anyone who would want to trick people into believing Aaron has some sort of secret agenda, must have such a degraded facility to process logic, it would be astonishing to wittiness them count to 100 without that many fingers.

Rathburn blew it. He could have had hundreds of friends out here, and I am not talking about anonymous. Nobody is going to give a rats as about him if this is how he's going to play games. If DM came out and decided to be part of dismantling scientology and sea org, apologize, repent, so on and so forth. What are people going to think and who are they sooner going to empathize with first? Rathburn 'left' the church first yet had no intention of letting go of the little prison system he set up in his little mind. Rathburn is so mentally sick, that he may not stop until every creature in the world has become his inmate.

These two m.. ( babies ) wahh! Rinder and Rathburn are classic examples of how power corrupts. Those that knew Aaron well and even hated him would defiantly be getting those lights in there heads going if they had seen how the big cheese dicks acted. Aaron has withholds? My god, the babies still have these questions? Maybe Rathburn needs to see a specialist for his learning disability.

I hear talk a lot how it takes so long for so many to recover from scientology, biologically there is a may be a little truth, however, many in the field of personality theory believe that you are like an onion an at the center there is nothing, and that fact is meaningless - leading to the idea that anyone can start creating who they want to be at any time, starting with nothing. Though in my mind maybe there is clay at the center with some biological boundaries. ( google century of self police man inside ) This can all be pealed off in an instant. Aaron realized this, and knows you can just snap out of scientology at any time. Much like Jason talked about in his interview. Didn't Rathburn watch someone be murdered front of his very own eyes when he first joined. Rathburn had no questions, really? None at all?

Aaron displays an uncommon ability to communicate about real life issues like sex, this shows a strong sense of adult mental health IMHO. Issues with crawly things was very common back in the day, especially within religious orders and there nothing unusual about that. There are plenty of online discussion forums dedicated those kinds of issues.

The manner in which scientology corrupts humans minds is what is sad, and there is no warning label on this authority on mental health.

Aaron is our new best friend. This is the kind off real man we might want to live up to. Truly a soul fit for Gryffindor. A champion against scientology many would be honored to fight along side with.

Happy Thanks Giving Aaron!

timthephoto · Nov 21, 2009

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oh yes, in on the first page of epic

Aaron - you straight talking ballsy fucker please keep speaking

JohnnyRUClear · Nov 21, 2009

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ITT: page count fail.

tazor · Nov 21, 2009

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Marty, look at Aaron. Now there's a REAL man.

Maybe someday when you grow up you can be just like him.

I won't be holding my breath, but hope springs eternal.

_You_ · Nov 21, 2009

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Now I am going to go off and fight the real enemy here - THE SEA ORGANIZATION AND SCIENTOLOGY.

I suggest everyone else stop farting around with paranoia and gossip and get to the job at hand.

what he said

also, it's Rathbun not Rathburn.

_You_ · Nov 21, 2009

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It's Rathbun who is the plant. And the name of that plant is poison ivy.

_You_ · Nov 21, 2009

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I'm in love!

_You_ · Nov 21, 2009

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Gots ter lerv a man who speaks his mind and not afraid of truth!
Rock on Aaron, you've added a great page to the playbook!

DeathHamster · Nov 21, 2009

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JohnnyRUClear;1074555 said:

Aaron's been on the scene what, a week? And he's already a champ. Mahty's been skulking around for months and everyone hates him.

Figure it out, Mahty. It's not that complicated.

Well, obviously it's Davey's fault!

Grips it by the Husk · Nov 21, 2009

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A plant?

By whom?

Anonymous or other critics, has the power to get a former SeoOrg bully to talk against Rathburn, just to bring Rathburn down and then Aaron is going to go back to being a SeaOrg bully? Don't think so.

Scientology encourages Aaron to speak out so that Rathburn's reputation is tarnished? Does that make any sense?

A third party want to take control of the remains of Scientology so they get Aaron to discredit Rathburn so that they can take over when the dust falls. But with what Aaron had to say, what will there be left over to take control of? Nothing.

What dumbass came up with the theory that Aaron could logically be a plant?

Three cheers for Pommey Bastards everywhere.

webkilla · Nov 21, 2009

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i clame

*flapfalpfapl*

_You_ · Nov 21, 2009

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It's what a handful of anons have been saying all along isn't it? The tech, the courses, Hubbard, all of it, is fundamentally evil and wrong and worthless. Telling ANYONE that the freezone or any other alternative was incorrect.

Scientology is a system of hatred created by a man who was full of deceit and corruption. To dedicate your life to sci and to believe in anything Hubbard said or wrote means one possesses a complete and total lack of respect for anything in the natural world and certainly for anything related to being a truly loving and compassionate person.

There is nothing in scientology to be gained and nothing to be learned except hatred, paranoia, and fear.

Scientology must be eliminated in its entirety. It was never a matter of freedom of religion because clearly, scientologists are not free to believe what they want.

I would suggest to Marty Rathbun he swallow his pride NOW and conquer the hold Hubbard has on him before what he glorifies becomes his ultimate ruin.

And all I have to say to Aaron is FUCK YEAH.....it's about goddamn time you showed up.

Asshole · Nov 21, 2009

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ANYONE saying he's a plant is a child molester.

_You_ · Nov 21, 2009

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Asshole;1074857 said:

ANYONE saying he's a plant is a child molester.

Mahty looks like one.

_You_ · Nov 21, 2009

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Where did Marty say Aaron might be a plant ?

_You_ · Nov 21, 2009

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Kha Khan;1074493 said:

You got bullied and you cried. Whaw Whaw whaw.

I lol'd!

Asshole · Nov 21, 2009

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_Bruce_;1074992 said:

Where did Marty say Aaron might be a plant ?

I think someone here had their tinfoil hat on too tight.

ArnieLerma · Nov 21, 2009

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Rathbun is an act
Scientology does bad things, but scientology works! ooh the dwarf slapped me!

Aaron is real
The whole thing is a totalitarian mind control fraud...

Repressing sex amongst those with the highest natural levels of
testosterone.. helps to create monsters.

This was part of the real "Tech" used to build scientology...

"Curtailing sexual behavior has been held accountable not just for the
behavior of some individuals who are excessively violent but for high
levels of aggressiveness in entire cultures" LINK

Remember - The best place to hide something is right in front of you

And the 60's "Peace" movement started up right after "the pill" was invented... "Make love not WAR"

rawrz · Nov 21, 2009

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There isn't a Star Trek XIII.

moonishgirl · Nov 21, 2009

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rawrz;1075023 said:

There isn't a Star Trek XIII.

yet.

Asshole · Nov 21, 2009

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ArnieLerma;1075020 said:

stuff

Speaking of tinfoil...

_You_ · Nov 21, 2009

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http://forums.whyweprotest.net/318-...ews-sea-org-whistleblower-aaron-saxton-57019/

This is really good. He sounds pretty normal

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