Wow. You imagine yourself involved in some kind of ongoing war yeh? You guys are really spectacular. Say whatever you want about that group Scientology, they have definitely earned the scrutiny and negative interest they are getting from all sides but you all here are in a strange paranoid class all of your own. Amazing. I think it is safe to say that a "moderator" is a good representative of the whole. Simply amazing.
+1.But please, try to also contribute to the thread content too. The Armstrong court case is quite a fascinating read. Imagine you are in Sullivan’s and Armstrong’s shoes and believe what Hubbard claimed about himself. Now imagine that you, in the course of gathering biographical materials, requested his school records and get the following back – how would you react?:
In the rest there is not a special scientology technical term. Its only a completely aloof hubbardish use of the english language.
Does anyone else have any theories what that specific "completely aloof hubbardish use of the english language" in this case meant? "John and Helen O'Brien from "Dianetics in Limbo""The one thing you mustn't do in the MEST universe is know.... Information dives out of sight in this universe faster than anything you ever saw."
Well what cults have you got in your neck of the woods that might work cooperatively with Scientology toward common goals?
Let me explain it then. See Hubbard's grades? Hubbard didn't know. So he tells you not to know because ignorance is bliss.
Oh and forgot some other local "cults", the homeless people panhandler "cults", Internet group whyweprotest "cult", Hollywood studios cults, Starbucks cult, street gang "cults", US Government cult, and big pharmaceutical company "cults". Don't know anything about the Rael's girls, are they a "cult" to?
Because I nearly have a line on my troll bingo card. More contributions.From ‘A Piece of Blue Sky’ there is passage: Mr. van Vogt was a well-respected science-fiction writer who endorsed Dianetics in its early days. What piqued my interest here is that Mr. van Vogt co-wrote a book titled “The Hypnotism Handbook”. Lerma posts a few extracts from the book here: http://www.lermanet.com/exit/volunteerministers.htm There is an interesting interview with Mr. van Vogt here: http://www.icshi.net/worlds/Plattprofile.htm I’m very interested in getting my hands on copies of “The Hypnotism Handbook” and “Reflections of A. E. van Vogt” – anyone have a PDF or TXT of them?
This is Rael: and these are his babes: MOD EDIT: Titty pics removed. This thread is still upstairs. Oh sorry my bad. This image is probably safe: I for one welcome our trollish overloards. Raelianism is "religious atheism," which is an excellent way to troll atheists. It also has wild human cloning claims, trolling scientists. And Swastikas, trolling the Jews. It promises a future without tedious work, which trolls sane people. And it has titties, trolling your mom.
And you do not see the cultish bullyish behaviour in these little name calling internet gang bangs? What a convenient blind slot.
Oh I forgot, you are perceive yourselves as crusaders and freedom fighters who are at war with an evil dark nemesis who has infiltrated the minds of any individual who does not agree with you, so any irrational hysteria gets a pass on your side of the fence.
I have come to recognize that a large part of what is found on the internet is a kind of 'battle' to label phenomena. I label you as I have, and you label me as a "troll" and what I do as "failure". The prevailing perception on the internet and certainly here, seems to be that who ever has the last word and the most accumulated labels of a situation, perceives themselves as the victor. Interestingly, Scientology seems to be a group that is about labelling the universe and they have made up all these labels and definitions. You and Scientology are in the same business it seems to me , it is a war of labelling. They want to label themselves as valuable and as a "religion" and you want to label them as (fill in the blank). The last man standing gets to put their label on all of it. If Germany had won the war English would now be our second language. So I get it, you will call me a "troll" for a hundred years, and label anything I say "fail" for a hundred years. Ultimately you will dominate in any exchange as this arena belongs to you and you are just way more determined and committed to it than I am. Like my theory?
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/label?s=t la·bel [ley-buh l] Show IPA noun, verb, la·beled,la·bel·ing or ( especially British ) la·belled, la·bel·ling. noun1.a slip of paper, cloth, or other material, marked or inscribed,for attachment to something to indicate its manufacturer,nature, ownership, destination, etc.2.a short word or phrase descriptive of a person, group,intellectual movement, etc.3.a word or phrase indicating that what follows belongs in aparticular category or classification: The following definition has thelabel “Archit.”4.Architecture . a molding or dripstone over a door or window,especially one that extends horizontally across the top of theopening and vertically downward for a certain distance at thesides.5.a brand or trademark, especially of a manufacturer ofphonograph records, tape cassettes, etc.: She records under a newlabel.
Oh dictionary tech. That is fail. The important thing is not what's written in a dictionary but what YOU mean when you say "label." To me, it looks like you mean using a word to describe a person somehow. You seem to think that is a bad thing.
I am saying that that is what I perceive to be going on, I did not intend to say it was a "bad" thing, nor a good thing. It is what it is. And the dictionary definition represents what I meant. You can persist and label it as "dictionary tech" and as "fail" if you must, but that just seems to demonstrate what I am saying. We will take turns reframing or labelling anything the other persons says. Again, not that there is anything wrong with that. You will label what you want to occur as the "important thing" and I will label what I want to occur as the important thing. It is a cats game and will never end. But like I said, you will dominate because I am just not that committed to having the last word in the long term, just for today or so.
"Name calling internet gang bangs"? Fill in a Butthurt report form and send it to the internet. They'll sort it out for you.
This thread just keeps on giving. Protip: When you start a thread and have your question overwhelmingly answered, and your OP laden with dox, and then proceed to become fully engorged the most blatant, unjustified and redonkulous victimhood – at this point you become a simple amusement for the masses. And deservedly so. And now the “it’s all relative” approach (aka “what’s true is what’s true for you”). Seriously, this thread has been troll-bingo heaven. More actual thread contributions. The inventor of the emeter, Volney Mathison, wrote the following in his book “Creative Image Therapy”: Was he referring to Hubbard? It seems a reasonable conclusion given Volney’s history, and his particular reference to ‘congresses’ he makes here. Does anyone know if Volney wrote more on Hubbard/Scientology/Dianetics?
I'm new here, and haven't read many threads, and apologize if this has been discussed recently, but doing some research, I ran across the Scientology "Personality Test" which, as I understand they use right off the bat to try and screen people for entrance to their cult...and after the 5th or 6th page, they actually ask how susceptible you are to being hypnotized or mind controlled....Now why on earth would that not make anyone with a lick of common sense run for their life the other way??? Jesus.... Are there really people that stupid? I mean.. I cannot believe what I just read.
Asheera, what exactly makes you such an authority and expert on these things? You have labelled and framed what is happening in terms that promote your view of life, so what is so valuable about that or your opinion that you give a fancy jargon name "Protip" to? It is so predictable that each person will try and wrestle control of the thread by bombarding it with their own labels and reframes. Hey Asheera, proceed to carpet bomb this with your ingenious flood with "dox" strategy.
Label away Anonymous #309. I label your label "Not VaD" as being funny and creative, thumbs up. Ever try stand up? I think you would go far.
We also have Anne Rosenblum. Quoted in A Piece of Blue Sky https://www.createspace.com/4138771 as well as in Bare Faced Messiah http://www.xenu.net/archive/books/bfm/bfmconte.htm
Just quoting this for the comedy value more than anything. 1) Start thread asking a question. 2) Ignore any and all information/dox pertinent to its answer. 3) BAWWWWW due to the lack of people baited 4) ???? 5) Profit…? What do steps 1-4 get in terms of profit? Is a it keen insight into the minds of others that will allow you plumb the depths of their psychology? Or, instead, a Tantalus-ian fate to shitpost for the sake of shitposting? Inquiring minds want to know. Back to content: Everyone’s human. We all have dreams and hopes. We all have things about ourselves we would like to change, we have fears and anxieties. We all have these things, and they are a fundamental part of our psychological make-up. Tap into one of these psychological buttons successfully (known as finding a ‘ruin’ in Scientology) and you’ll find the person highly amenable to whatever message it is you are selling. It is tempting to think that only “stupid” people would fall for it. Sadly, everyone has their ups and downs, and if your buttons are found then you could be taken for a ride. From HCOPL 28th October 1960 titled ‘New Testing Promotion Section’: An extensive description of the personality test can be found here: http://www.xenu.net/archive/oca/oca.html The test was first developed by Ray Kemp at Hubbard’s direction. He wrote about this in his column, the text of which you can access here: http://english.freiescientologen.de/index.php?title=CofS_stole_the_OCA_test Hard to know how much credence to give to Ray’s account though, so take it with a pinch of salt. Her declaration: http://www.spaink.net/cos/mpoulter/sods/rosenblu.html I love this thread. A lot.
Failtroll is full of fucking fail, and doesn't know when to STFU. Hope you've applied Astroglide to the soon-to-be-affected area.
I could be wrong, and if so I would be pleased to be corrected, but if said troll knew when to STFU wouldn’t they fail to meet the criteria required to be dubbed a ‘failtroll’…? This is sort of like saying “that ball is round” or “that would have succeeded had it not failed” or “that Scientology spokesperson committed a footbullet”, etc. Back to content. This is an interesting posting regarding Ray Kemp: http://www.holysmoke.org/cos/ray-kemp-lied.htm Anyone know where I could get a copy of the video in question? It was previously hosted on the now-defunct site: http://www.lisatrust.net/Media/kemp.htm
Bombard others with catchy labels "failtroll"? and throw in some aggressive scatological language and insults and voila, you control the thread using force. But meanwhile back at the war room you all are got yourselves all worked up about Scientology people using aggressive behaviour towards people to further their aims. But if you do it, well of course it is ok. Blind spots are the most convenient things sometimes.
It is convenient for you to label it "Ridicule" and it is convenient for me to label it "aggressive behaviour". I think both perspectives are reasonable. "Full of fucking fail" sounds aggressive to me. So does "doesn't know when to STFU" . Of course you give it a pass, it is one of the perks of being affiliated with a certain group, group members got your back no matter what you do. Must be the same way people turn a blind eye to certain activities that happen in Scientology that you think are aggressive or illegal, while people affiliated with that group do not. And so it goes. As over there, same over here.
