Justice Committee, Constitution and Membership Levels of IS Not-For-Profit Membership Community

Anonymous · Jun 16, 2013

Justice Committee, Constitution and Membership Levels of IS Not-For-Profit Membership Community

Milestone Two - Function monitors Structure
http://www.iscientology.org/scientology-blog/466-milestone-two-function-monitors-structure

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Milestone Two - a summary:

Milestone Two is a membership community (we like to call it a fraternity). It is international, and there are plans already afoot to make the website available in at least German, Italian, French and Russian.

There are two tiers of membership – the first is Associate Membership – open to all, and at a low annual cost. The Associate Members are a vital part of Milestone Two and have access to the projects, programs and activities of Milestone Two. They can engage in whatever way they choose, based on their own desires, time and capacity. An Associate member has no voting rights, but their views are important and they will always make up the larger portion of the membership community.

The second tier is Full membership. The cost of Full membership is the same as Associate, however to become a full member requires nomination and there are some basic qualifications required (including being voted in by the majority of Full members). The Full members of Milestone Two have voting rights. They can become members of the Council, and staff of Milestone Two.

One of the reasons we have set up the membership in this fashion is that whilst we want all to be able to access Milestone Two – we do not want to have the control of the organization fall into the wrong hands. There have been instances in the past where Corp Scientology has taken over an “enemy” organization by sending in a volume of their staff to sign up and get onto the board, and then take control. The checks and balances prevent this from ever occurring with Milestone Two. The control of Milestone Two will always remain in the hands of the most dedicated, most trained, high case level and most productive members – which is the logical way to see Scientology move forward into the future. And with the Full Members having the vote on all matters relating to strategy, Council, and more, we feel satisfied that the organization can be well governed into the future.

As it is a not-for-profit company, limited by guarantee, it currently has directors (7) and those we call the Council. The Council can grow in size, commensurate to the size of the membership community. Council members are not remunerated for their work and the constitution makes it clear that no assets or income of Milestone Two can go directly or indirectly to line the pockets of those on the Council, or others.

It also has a small staff organization (simply called Milestone Two) which has the job of administering and coordinating activities within the membership. There are communications, a magazine/journal, website maintenance, bills to pay, financial books to keep, and so on. All the regular functions of a company have to be performed. Staff who work for Milestone Two are remunerated for their time and efforts, and the Managing Director is paid based on a financial system established and overseen by the Council. Gone are the days where you have to live in poverty if you want to be a staff member. Milestone Two will pay its staff, making it possible for people to be on purpose and also pay the mortgage.

The Council and the staff of Milestone Two have NO rank, seniority or privilege over members of the organization. They are there to keep corporate governance in for the company, and to keep things running smoothly. They are a coordination and service hub – not a dictatorial control center.

The majority of “work” of Milestone Two is actually done by the Members. And that “work” is any project or program that they wish to initiate and then collaborate, communicate and coordinate to get done. Within the Milestone Two these projects are called groups – a term meaning groups of people who have common interests, activities or intentions.

You always wanted to train as an auditor? Or you want to open a field practice? There is a group on this – which enables you to share information, have an ongoing forum on key topics, get assistance on obtaining checksheets, materials, access to a courseroom, find a good C/S, and also have access to some great internship programs.

You have a driving purpose to get literacy programs actually implemented in schools? Heck, let’s get it done. You may just want to do activities in your local school on a part time basis, or get a project done that has a huge impact. Milestone Two has a group on literacy programs, and there are others with the same interests, similar goals, and you can work together, get assistance, advice, you name it.

One of our first projects is very exciting and is a new Div 6 project to get the original OCA back in use. And what about the Primary Rundown? And what about cleaning up the subject of Ethics (from the current perverted Corp Scn version, to the original LRH definitions and policies on personal ethics)?

All of these can be done with programs and projects – and these are organized into “groups” within the Milestone fraternity. Milestone Two is simply the platform that allows members to connect, collaborate and be an OT group that gets things done.

Our constitution lays out how this is achieved, and gives the basic policy on the structure and the system.

Definition of Constitution: (noun)

A body of fundamental principles or established precedents according to which a state or other organization is acknowledged to be governed.

A written record of this.

Our constitution is a lengthy document – however, it is not hard to read. It is important that members understand it as it is the system that can take Scientology forward into the future. It is the structure that enables us to perform the needed functions, and achieve the purposes and objectives of Milestone Two.

We look forward to your feedback. As stated in the first two articles -- we plan to open the doors for Milestone Two by June 21, which is (in Australian time) less than 5 days away.

Constitution - Milestone Two Ltd

A not-for-profit company limited by guarantee

Name

The name of the association shall be Milestone Two.

Objectives and Purposes

To foster an open enterprise virtual platform for a broad and supportive international fellowship and community, uniting people to use the tools and technologies of L. Ron Hubbard on a daily basis to better conditions in the world, and to help themselves.

To preserve and protect and correctly use the original spiritual philosophy and technologies developed by L. Ron Hubbard in order to secure this path to spiritual freedom for all those who wish to walk it.

To support an abundance of network communication lines to achieve the aims of the fraternity and to maintain inviting, supportive, honest and transparent communications for any who are interested in participating or wishing to learn of Milestone Two activities.

To support making training and qualifications services readily available across the planet, through the Milestone Two membership fraternity, to maintain the standard application of L. Ron Hubbard’s auditing, ethics and management technologies.

To provide support for Field Auditors, groups and organizations so they can obtain and maintain high technical standards and thus ensure their effectiveness and prosperity.

To initiate broad-reaching dissemination programs that individual members can use to introduce people to L. Ron Hubbard, his philosophies, and the technologies he developed.

To support an inter-faith program, promoting tolerance, cooperation, care and understanding as integral aspects to any movement that pursues ethical purposes.

To support the ongoing whistle-blower program on abuses and corruption of L. Ron Hubbard’s discoveries and technologies, making clear delineation between such and the body of work itself.

Membership

Milestone Two is an on-line membership community. Its activities are carried out across the planet and it has no fixed location.

There are two tiers of membership; Associate Membership, and Full Membership. Anyone can be an Associate member of Milestone Two as long as they; are at least 18 years old; agree with the objectives and purposes of the organization; have paid the annual membership fee; and provided their full name, email, address, city and country they live in.

Membership is open to individuals. Groups and organizations cannot be a member of Milestone Two, however the individuals of that group certainly can. Individual membership is paid by the individual – not by corporations, groups or others, enmasse.

An Associate member has access to the Milestone Two Community online and can network with other members and thereby be part of a cohesive community working to build, deliver and disseminate the technologies of L. Ron Hubbard.

Associate members are kept abreast of Milestone Two ongoing activities, projects and programs, and can voluntarily contribute as they wish.

Associate members may use the Independent Scientology logo for any related activities, projects or communications they are involved in.

Associate members receive the online Milestone Two journal and also receive the Annual Report, which includes detail on organizational activities, financial status and strategy. The opinion and views of Associate Members are valued, however they have no binding vote.

Full Members have all the benefits of an Associate member, plus they have a vote in the strategy, programs, projects and activities of Milestone Two. There is no difference in cost between the two tiers, but there is a difference in contribution activity and commitment.

Full Members can request and potentially receive Milestone Two funding for their own activity or group, to build it in size, scope or delivery capacity.

Full Members can take on positions as Milestone Two staff and may be remunerated for their performance of specific key functions, as feasible. Full members are also eligible for nomination for a position on the Milestone Two Council.

An associate member can become a Full Member by;

1) evidence of extensive contribution towards the aims of Milestone Two;

2) passing a PTS A-J check and Help & Control Check by someone qualified to use an e-Meter;

3) nomination by another Full Member;

4) acceptance by the majority of Full Members (i.e., more than 50% of full members).

An associate member cannot become a Full Member;

1) By financial contributions or donations alone;

2) By relying on only past accomplishments and nothing in present or recent times;

3) Denigrating or disparaging L. Ron Hubbard or the workability of the technologies he discovered;

4) if they have not taken responsibility for any past membership or support of groups that have used L.Ron Hubbard’s technology harmfully.
The Milestone Two Membership fraternity and community (Associate and Full members) performs the majority of activities and projects to deliver and expand.

Access to Milestone Two’s online community and activities is only possible while a member is a paid member. Failure to renew or pay membership results in loss of access to Milestone Two networking facilities.

An Associate Member or Full Member of Milestone Two can resign at any time, however refund on annual membership fee is not possible. Any advanced payments for Milestone Two services that have not been delivered will be refunded.

Membership Community Coordination and Service

A small coordination and service Milestone Two organization exists for the Membership Community.

Milestone Two staff provide the basic functions detailed in the LRH seven division organizing board, to keep in basics such as HCO, Accounts, Membership and Qual for the Membership Community. Key is providing basic coordination facilities to assist the Membership Community to succeed.

Staff of Milestone Two have no management capacity or function over field auditors or groups -- they offer coordination services to the Membership fraternity and community to assist them to improve, build and expand their activities using LRH technologies. Such coordination services are provided and accepted entirely on a voluntary basis.

Staff of Milestone Two have responsibility for ethics within the Membership fraternity and community – however this is simply to hold the channels firm for the delivery and execution of Milestone Two programs and activities – not for any other dreamed up purpose or counter purpose. HCO Milestone Two is there to detect and deal with PTSes and SPs that create trouble within the organization – but has no interest in the personal lives or activities of individual members.
HCO of Milestone Two can revoke an individual’s membership with Milestone Two if a Member refuses to cooperate or deal with a PTS situation that is impacting on Milestone Two activities. They can also revoke permission for the member to use the Independent Scientology logo for whatever projects or activities they are involved in.

Technical and Qual staff of Milestone Two have a responsibility to maintain technical standards in Milestone Two programs, projects and activities -- and departures from those standards are handled with the regular instruct, cram, retread and retrain line detailed in OEC Volume 5.

Staff members of Milestone Two must:

a) Be a Full Member
b) Be ratified by the Council of Milestone Two
c) Get fully hatted for their function/post within 6 months of appointment.
d) Train/audit regularly and thus be moving up The Bridge.

The Managing Director coordinates and works with the Milestone Two staff and the Membership Community to achieve the aims and objectives of the organization.

The Managing Director is a voting member of the Council and attends all meetings, however cannot at the same time hold the position of President, Secretary or Treasurer of the Council.

The Managing Director and staff of Milestone Two may be paid based on a financial system established by the Council, with a system that rewards production and is commensurate with the work being done by the individual staff members.

Governance of Milestone Two

The Milestone Two Council comprises of initially, no less than seven veteran Scientologists. The maximum number of Council members is based on the size of the Membership fraternity and community. Less than 200 members, the maximum number of Council members is nine. With 200 – 1000 members, the maximum number of Council members is 12. With more than 2000 members, the maximum number of Council members is 15.

Council members of Milestone Two must:

a) Be a Full Member;

b) Be minimally OT 3 and an experienced auditor;

c) Have proven accomplishments and competence in applying the technologies of L. Ron Hubbard;

d) Have a proven record of contribution regarding the technologies of L. Ron Hubbard;

e) Have taken responsibility for any past membership or support of groups that have used L.Ron Hubbard’s technology harmfully;

f) Must audit/study the technologies of L. Ron Hubbard regularly so they continue to move up The Bridge.

The responsibilities and functions of the Milestone Council are:

a) Establishing and publishing strategic direction;

b) Big picture policy formulation for Milestone Two, in alignment with LRH administrative technologies;

c) Managing Director appointment, monitoring, evaluation, and when necessary, removal;

d) Ensuring effective governance processes are in place, including legal and accounting requirements of the organization;

e) Making available resources to the Managing Director and staff to achieve the strategic plan (i.e., money, personnel, materiel, etc.);

f) Monitoring Milestone Two’s performance against its strategies and targets;

g) Ensuring risk management is in place;

h) Maintaining transparency and strong open communication lines with the Membership fraternity and community;

h) Overseeing financial obligations and management of Milestone Two monetary resources;

j) Overseeing technical standards of Milestone Two delivery services.

Council members are not remunerated for their work to govern Milestone Two, however their costs to attend the yearly annual meeting, and any other valid expenses are covered by Milestone Two.

Council positions are established through nomination and voting by Full Members, once a year at the Annual General Meeting and annual conference.

Council members have a term of 3 years. There is no maximum length a person can stay on the Council, however they must, every 3 years, get their position reaffirmed by the vote of Full Members.

The positions of President, Treasurer and Secretary within the Council, are decided by the council members themselves. All council members must complete the Corporate Governance Full hat within 6 months of appointment to maintain their positions.

A council member can resign their position at any time, with 4 weeks notice, if they consider they cannot fulfill their obligations as a council member.

Council members of Milestone Two have no special privileges or rights not afforded to all Full members.

The first council of Milestone Two is to be formed from the initial Founding members, as well as the posting of Managing Director. These positions are only valid for 1 year and must then be reaffirmed by a vote by the Full Membership at that time (with all Full members able to nominate for positions on the Council and on staff).

Justice Committee

A Justice Committee exists, separate to the Council and to staff and executives of Milestone Two. This committee is comprised of 3 Full Members, hatted on ethics policy and original justice codes, with the function of being a last port of call on technically incorrect findings and instances of f;agrant injustice or out-ethics actions which are destructive to statistics.

The Justice Committee has a Chairman with two members, and can conduct Board of Investigations, Board of Reviews and Committees of Evidence. These are convened by the Council if situations come to their attention that have not been handled by HCO Milestone Two effectively and must be handled for the Membership Community.

As a last port of call, the Justice Committee can also initiate justice actions on any council member or executive/staff member of Milestone Two if reports to HCO have not resolved severe ethics matters.

Finances

Milestone Two generates revenue through many lines including, but not limited to:

1) membership fees

2) field auditor/group support services

3) virtual folder storage and online auditor/C/S software

4) Chaplain/Mediation services for the Membership Community

5) Milestone Two events

6) Donations.

The assets and income of Milestone Two shall be applied solely in furtherance of the above-mentioned purposes and objectives, and no portion shall be distributed directly or indirectly to the Council, the staff or the members of Milestone Two, except as bona fide compensation for services rendered, for authorized projects of Milestone Two, or expenses incurred on behalf of the organisation.

Meetings

The first annual general meeting of Milestone Two must be held within 12 months of the incorporation as a company. Milestone Two must hold an annual general meeting once each calendar year and within 5 months after the end of its financial year (section 250N(2) of the Corporations Act)

The Council members of Milestone Two can call a general meeting at any other time, the only requirements being that the Membership community must be given at least 1 month notice, and attendance by all Members is possible through international digital means.

A notice calling a general meeting must specify the place, date and time of the meeting and, as the Milestone Two membership is an international one, technology that will be used to facilitate this.

A notice calling a general meeting must state the general nature of the business to be transacted at the meeting and must specify an electronic address for the purposes of proxy appointment.

The business to be transacted at an annual general meeting must include the presentation of the annual financial report, Milestone Two Council strategic report and Managing Director’s report. It must also include the election of council members (empty positions, plus any vacant positions due to the end of the 3 year term policy for council members).

The Council may postpone or cancel a general meeting (other than annual general meeting) as long as all Members of Milestone Two are given notice of the postponement or cancellation and the place, date and time of any new meeting.

No business may be transacted at a general meeting unless a quorum of Members is present when the meeting proceeds to business. A quorum of Members is the majority of Full Members (i.e., more than 50% of the total number of Full Members), either attending in person, or through attendance using electronic means. If there is no quorum, the meeting must be adjourned and rescheduled for another time, to be well publicized to the Membership fraternity and community.

Associate members are welcome to attend any general meeting, but have no binding vote and do not impact the requirement for a quorum of Full members.

Full members of Milestone Two can request/call a general meeting at any time, to address a specific situation they feel requires attention, but must have the majority vote of all Full members to do so.

All General meetings of Milestone Two are chaired by the Council President, or in their absence, by the Vice President.

Full member votes are taken on a show of hands at the location of the meeting, plus a vote of yay or nay online, through digital means (for all those attending the meeting from other locations).

All Council members and general meetings must be minuted, detailing who was present, all proceedings and resolutions proposed, passed or rejected, all appointments and all orders made by the Council.

Minutes are signed by the President. Council meeting minutes are only distributed to council members. General Meeting minutes are distributed to the Full Membership Community.

True Group

In accord with LRH’s Essay on Management, Milestone Two will work to build and foster a true group by:

a. Creating affinity, group to group, and within the organization, and to create and maintain a high affinity with the rest of the world.

b. Creating an organization that is the model of a better world.

c. Persevering in the continual raising of organizational tone, toward the goal of the highest individual tone.

d. Self-generating the organization into a model of efficiency in all its functions and programs, with high pride in the performance on the part of every individual member of the group, and working to correct any individuals, units, or groups, with hatting, word clearing, ethics, de-PTSing, cramming, evaluation, justice or other appropriate technologies.

e. Making prolific use of the evaluator tech to always find correct situations and right whys that generate effective plans to move the fellowship community continually towards its various ideal scenes

f. Exchanging in abundance with Milestone Two members, and by continually building on the amount of theta in the group, to guarantee the longevity, greatness and general survival of the fraternity.

Amendments

As conditions change and as Milestone Two evolves, this Constitution may be amended, such amendment being proposed by any Full Member in good standing subject to approval by full membership of the Council and provisional ratification by a majority of Full Members. Upon such ratification, the amendment goes into effect for one year at which time a review of its effect on the purposes and activities of Milestone Two is to be undertaken by the Council and, if deemed to have demonstrated positive effects, the amendment shall once again be put before the Full Members and if again receiving a majority of votes, the amendment shall become a permanent amendment to this Constitution.

Dissolution

In the event of Milestone Two being dissolved, the financial assets that remain after such dissolution and the satisfaction of all debts and liabilities, shall be transferred to another organisation with the same objectives and purposes, which is not carried on for the profit or gain of its individual members.

Each voting member of Milestone Two must contribute to the company’s property if the company is wound up while they are a member. No other member must contribute to the company’s property if the company is wound up. The contribution amount is not to exceed $1.00 per member, and is for:

a.Payment of the company’s debts and liabilities contracted before their membership ceased;
b.The costs of winding up; and
c.Adjustment of the rights of the contributories among themselves.

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Anonymous · Jun 16, 2013

IAS is a criminal membership that has made millions from coercing its "church" membership. We're Independent Scientologists, we're different. We'll set up a non-profit with an international membership to coerce donations from those brainwashed outside the church cult.

Anonymous · Jun 16, 2013

http://www.iscientology.org/sciento...-two-function-monitors-structure#comment-1871

# Espiritu 2013-06-16 02:04
One question: It mentions above that a three member Justice Committee exists, separate to the Council and to staff and executives of Milestone Two.
Is this committee appointed by the Council? If not, how are its members chosen?
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Lana M.
+1 # Lana M. 2013-06-16 02:30
Espiritu,
Good question. The Committee needs to be established by the Full members. So there would be nominations and then a vote by the Full members. To have the Council do the selection leaves it too open to problems, favorites, or boys clubs.
Cheers - Lana

Anonymous · Jun 16, 2013

http://www.iscientology.org/sciento...-two-function-monitors-structure#comment-1875

# Lana M. 2013-06-16 05:13
Actually Calvin, We have the best of the best in terms of Div 6 genius' here in the field. Mark Shreffler is one of the Founding members of Milestone Two, and there are several other real PROs on the subject. It is not a lost technology. It just is not practiced by Corp Scn anymore.
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Lana M.
+2 # Lana M. 2013-06-16 05:30
One other point -- yes Corp Scn has really destroyed Div 6 lines and the PR of Scientology itself. No question -- but the ruins of society still exist, and people still need help. There are whole industries built around trying to provide help, with few to no tools to do so. The Div 6 lines can be rebuilt -- and it is not hard. Word of mouth is the best PR, and a well run Book One Co-Audit, or Communications Course, or Intro lecture will fill up and just build and build and build in numbers, as the results speak for themselves. Standard tech applied, to the result of release and beyond will resolve all Div 6 and PR issues. The Wimbush's did it in the early 80's (and Bernie is one of our Founding Members), Shreff has down it countless times, and there are many others who not only have the experience but also the passion to open up these lines properly.

Anonymous · Jun 16, 2013

It appears the IS Not-For-Profit Membership Community is an Australian Company

http://www.iscientology.org/scientology-blog/466-milestone-two-function-monitors-structure
Excerpt:

Constitution - Milestone Two Ltd

A not-for-profit company limited by guarantee

Name

The name of the association shall be Milestone Two.

Australian Securities & Investment Commission Search
http://www.asic.gov.au/asic/ASIC.NSF/byHeadline/Search_business_names

Use "Search company and other registers"

Name: MILESTONE TWO LTD
ACN: 163 661 238
ABN: 35 163 661 238
Registration date: 9/05/2013
Next review date: 9/05/2014

Status: Registered
Type: Australian Public Company, Limited By Guarantee
Locality of registered office: Griffith ACT 2603
Regulator: Australian Securities & Investments Commission

ABN details
Entity name: MILESTONE TWO LTD
ABN status: Active from 09 May 2013
Entity type: Other Incorporated Entity
Goods & Services Tax (GST): Not currently registered for GST
Main business location: NSW 2620
ASIC registration - ACN or ARBN 163 661 238 View record on the ASIC website
Deductible gift recipient status Not entitled to receive tax deductible gifts

Anonymous · Jun 16, 2013

Anonymous · Jun 16, 2013

http://www.iscientology.org/sciento...-two-function-monitors-structure#comment-1892

# Lana M. 2013-06-16 22:00
Thanks David. In the Data Series LRH details how you cannot see the outpoints in something until you establish an ideal scene for that activity. With that established, you can then see what the departures are.
I found, as we were working our way through this constitution, that once we had the ideal scene worked out around the purposes and objectives that the rest became really easy. And the outpoints in Corporate Scientology's existing scene are so glaring they hurt. They have a self appointed dictator, who is the Chair of a non-existent board, with no term of office (they are stuck with him indefinitely), with no contingency or checks and balances (well DM actually removed the checks and balances). So the self appointed dictator orders what he wants, removes and nullifies those that get in his way, lines his pockets, lives like a king, and the parishioners meanwhile take out their 2nd mortgage to donate to build "idle" buildings, and continue with their never ending sec checks, lower conditions or recycling of Bridge steps they had earlier done.
Really sad actually.
Milestone Two was created by a handful of people, and will be owned by all of its members -- not by me, or by any of the Founding members. In fact, the terms for the first council and the appointed Managing Director are only valid for 1 year, and after that the Full members can nominate anyone they feel best for the jobs and vote for them.
We think it gives a way forward and puts the control in the hands of the members - rather than some self-gratifying, power-hungry suck.

Anonymous · Jun 16, 2013

Alright, I'll ask the question everybody is dying to know......

What role will Hobs play in the new regime?

jensting · Jun 16, 2013

So OSA's rejects can do their A-E steps without having to ship them far from the usual exile location of Australia? Sweet Seriously, who knows how many OSA agents are quietly turned after they infiltrate? What is certain is that OSA has in the past burned agents when they no longer trusted them.

Anyway, the various attempts at organising and continuing to practise some (sub-)set of the $cientology creed is an expected effect of winning the war against the criminal organisation known as the "church" of $cientology.

Anonymous · Jun 16, 2013

jensting said: ↑

So OSA's rejects can do their A-E steps without having to ship them far from the usual exile location of Australia? Sweet

If you are talking about OSA infiltrating the new Indie Membership Community, note that:

http://www.iscientology.org/scientology-blog/466-milestone-two-function-monitors-structure

An associate member can become a Full Member by;

* * *

2) passing a PTS A-J check and Help & Control Check by someone qualified to use an e-Meter;

* * * *

So, to become a full, voting Member, the OSA agent would have to beat the Indie PTS A-J check and Help & Control Check, but if the OSA agent can beat the Indie PTS A-J check and Help & Control Check, then....

Anonymous · Jun 16, 2013

Milestone Two Australian corporate information:

Anonymous · Jun 16, 2013

Anonymous · Jun 16, 2013

Australian Securities & Investments Commission: Registering not-for-profit or charitable organisations
http://www.asic.gov.au/asic/asic.nsf/byheadline/Registering not-for-profit or charitable organisations

Excerpt:

The company structure

Under a company structure, charitable or not-for-profit organisations will generally be registered as public companies that are limited by guarantee. Limited by guarantee means the liability of the company’s members is limited to the amount the members undertake to contribute to the property of the company if it is wound up.

Registration of a company creates a legal entity separate from its members. The company can hold property and can sue and be sued.

Companies are registered under the Corporations Act 2001 (Corporations Act), which is Commonwealth legislation administered by ASIC. A company’s registration is recognised Australia wide.

At the very least, a public company must:

have at least three directors and one secretary

have at least one member

have a registered office address and principal place of business located in Australia

have its registered office open and accessible to the public

be internally managed by a constitution or replaceable rules

maintain a register of its members

keep a record of all directors’ and members; meeting minutes and resolutions

appoint a registered company auditor within one month of its registration

keep proper financial records

prepare, have audited and lodge financial statements and reports after the end of every financial year (this requirement does not apply to some companies that are limited by guarantee: see Information Sheet 131 Companies limited by guarantee— simplified obligations (INFO 131))

send to its members a copy of its financial statements and reports, unless the member has a standing arrangement with the company not to receive them (this requirement does not apply to some companies that are limited by guarantee: see INFO 131)

hold an annual general meeting once every calendar year within five months after the end of its financial year

receive and review an annual company statement and pay an annual review fee (a charitable or not-for-profit company may be eligible for a reduced annual review fee if it meets the criteria under the definition of ‘special purpose company’ in reg 3(a), (b), (c) or (d) of the Corporations (Review Fees) Regulations 2003, and

lodge notices whenever changes to its officeholders, office addresses, constitution and its name occur within specified timeframes as determined by the Corporations Act (as a general guide, see the information on running a company on our website at www.asic.gov.au/companies).

A company limited by guarantee may also be registered without the word ‘Limited’ in its name. This is only possible if its constitution:

requires the company to pursue charitable purposes only and to apply its income promoting those purposes, and

prohibits the company making distributions to its members and paying fees to its directors, and

requires the directors to approve all other payments the company makes to directors.

Thunder From DownUnder · Jun 17, 2013

Yippee! This will not end well

Anonymous · Jun 17, 2013

11 Founding Members of IS Not-For-Profit Membership Org

Milestone Two's "Eleven"
http://www.iscientology.org/scientology-blog/467-milestone-two-s-eleven

Excerpts:

If you add up the years that the “eleven” have been in Scientology it comes to 430 total years. Their training includes Class VI, VIII and Class IX’s, OEC, FEBC, Data Series Evaluator training, Marketing & Survey training, extensive management training, Ethics and PTS/SP training, Programs Writing, Execution and Debugging, as well as Case Supervision, Cramming, Course Supervision and more. They are all NOTs case level or higher.

The real life experience and production of the “eleven” covers every area of the org board and includes Legal, Personnel, Establishment, Registration, Marketing, Finance, Training, Auditing, Missions, Qualifications and well as all areas of Dissemination and Public Services. We also have Evaluator experience, Investigations and Programs execution experience, Writing/Editing and also IT covered. Even experience in Internal Security and Technical Compilations. In PT, each of these individuals are using and applying the tech to help others -- in big ways.

Steve Hall, aka Thoughtful

How long in Scientology: Since 1979, totalling 34 years.

Auditor Training: Hubbard Senior Sec Checker, Flag-trained Class IV, Flag “Ok to Operate an E-Meter” (valid for life), PTS-SP Course (4X), Ordained Scientology Minister, Volunteer Minister Course, Book One auditor, Book One Legionnaire, HRD auditor, Hard TRs, studied 1,025 LRH lectures,

Admin Training: Stu Hat, Hubbard Personal Ethics and Integrity Course, Ethics Specialist, KTL/LOC, OEC Vol 0, Product Debug Course, D of P Full Hat, Exec Status 1, OT Doctorate Course, Hubbard Art Course

Case Level: New OT V

Years in the SO: 2 years Guardian Activities Scientologist (Intelligence Bureau); 3 years org staff (Austin); and 20 years in the Sea Org

Key Posts/Products: 3 years Solo I/C FSO (put 200 people through OT III), 11 years in Central Marketing (marketing manager, product manager, project engineer, programs ops, designer, senior writer and creative force); 6 years ran Scriptwriting Dept with 14 writers writing LRH films, marketing and "PR" (DM propaganda) videos; 300,000 words published to date covering all 286 Scientology books, products and services plus 30 Scientology corporations, 150 Scientology brochures, 125 Scientology films and videos, 77 Scientology TV spots, 4 Scientology & Dianetics websites for the CoS, 5 websites for iScientology, hundreds of print ads, hundreds of displays, booths and 2 major Scientology exhibits (Preservation of the Tech and Golden Era Productions exhibits in the Crystal Ballroom at Flag), scores of marketing slogans for Dianetics and Scientology including “Know Yourself, Know Life” (still in use), creator of the Indie 500, scientology-cult.com, rediscoverscientology.com, freeandable.com, iScientlogy.org, scientologyreviews.com, and the Independent Scientology logo.

Why I decided to be a founding member of Milestone Two?

I helped name Milestone Two and am a founding member because MS2 is the next step in the evolution to re-open the Bridge, a job that requires a group of intelligent, free beings with personal integrity, and the ability to coordinate, each doing their part on a voluntarily basis based on personal choice. OTs can operate effortlessly using postulates and considerations as tools to make things happen and we are doing that. The CoS rushes around frantically (a complete mob) and creates overt products en masse (cowed PTS "OTs" with cancer and brain tumors, auditors who can't audit, tech "correction" that destroys results, "ethics" handlings that degrade people and force them into suppressive roles). We continue gently putting in order and we are actually getting the job done.

Dan Koon

How long in Scientology: Got in May 1969 in Berkeley, so that makes 44 years.

Auditor Training: Class VI

Admin Training: OEC Vol. 0, SS II

Case Level: Old OT IV, on OT V

Years in the SO: 26 1/2

Key Posts/Products: Auditor, Cramming Officer Qual Gold, actor in Tech Films including the Pro TRs Course, RTRC Director, Senior C/S Int Executive Officer

Why I decided to be a founding member of Milestone Two?

A thetan never gives up. I bought into the idea that Scientology could do a lot to help people and I still feel that way despite David Miscavige doing his best to make me feel otherwise.

Dani Lemberger

How long in Scientology: Since April 1980, totalling 33 years

Auditor Training: Class 5, NED Auditor, not interned + Pro Course Supervisor + Solo Auditor

Admin Training: Ethics Specialist + Exec Status 1 + Data Series Eval Course + OEC Vol 0 + PTS/SP Course

Case Level: OT7, Solo NOTs Comp

Key Posts/Products: Founded the Dror Center in 1992, with Tami, first as a field group then as a Mission under CoS -- one of the largest missions in the SMI network. I left the CoS in 2012 with a group of 8 staff and approximately 40 public. We are now delivering OT Levels, with 50-55 public and 8 staff. Formed the Association of Free Scientologists Israel www.scnil.org/english

Why I decided to be a founding member of Milestone Two?

My best answer to this is the article I recently posted on democracy. In brief, I have witnessed the destruction of Scientology in the Church by Miscavige and his stooges. I decided not to give up on dream of a Cleared Planet, so had to leave the Church. Only a group can do it and it must be democratic (Dan Koon says: memberocratic) so MS2 it has to be!

Haydn James

How long in Scientology: Been in Scientology for 37 years

Auditor Training: All the way up through NOTs, also an experienced C/S and Senior C/S (having trained successful auditors).

Admin Training: KTL/LOC, OEC, Data Series, Management Series, LRH Long Distance Management trained. Mission School 2nd Class etc.

Case Level: on OTVII

Years in the SO: 31 Years were spent on staff (25 of those in the Sea Org).

Key Posts/Products: Though I spent 8 years in the church’s legal department and five years in management, I spent 18 years working at org level as an exec and tech terminal, the most notable product being the fact that my wife and I built the most successful Class V Org there has been in the UK to date and did it from scratch (Birmingham, 1991 to 2005). That is also where I learned my trade as an auditor, C/S and Senior C/S, training back to back winners of the International Auditors of the Year award with two different auditors, the award given based on production and results.

Why I decided to be a founding member of Milestone Two?

I decided to be a founding member of Milestone Two because I want to see Scientology tech made available to those who want it in the world in the correct way and without a repeat of the horrendous mistakes made in the past. I believe Milestone Two is the correct vehicle for that purpose.

Tom Martiniano

How long in Scientology: Got into Scientology in 1971, totalling 42 years.

Auditor Training: Class V auditor (Permanent), Super Literate, HPCSC, Word Clearer FH, Cramming officer FH, DSEC - fully interned.

Admin Training: OEC, SS V, Fully hatted CO/ED, ESTO, Pgms Chf, Action Chf, Purif C/S, and lots of other full hats.

Case Level: Original OT VII,currently on NED for OTs, 8 forms FPRD, Truth R/D, 8,000,000 hours of sec checks.

Years in the SO: On Staff in Class IV org 1972-1978. In Sea Org 20 years

Key Posts/Products: When I was in the Sea Org I was the Qual Sec AOLA, then mission I/C for the Rollback Mission into GOWW, USGO RB Msnr. ANZO & AF Pgms chf, CO ANZO,.CO AOSHEU, SO Programs Chf, CO ITO, WDC SO (lasted two weeks), Construction Management Ops CMOI, Dir Correction CTO WUS.

Why I decided to be a founding member of Milestone Two?

The reason that I am a founding member of MS2 is because I am connected to people who want Scientology to grow and get back to where we were before the usurper took over. I want to turn over what I know so that Scientology grows.

Lucy James

How long in Scientology: I’ve been a Scientologist for 37 years

Auditor Training: Dianetic Auditor, Level 1

Admin Training: KTL/LOC, OEC, Data Series, Management Series, LRH Long Distance Management trained.

Case Level: OTV

Years on staff/Sea Org: was on staff for 28 years of which 22 years were spent in the Sea Organization.

Key Posts/Products: My first six years on staff were at the Davis Mission where I worked mostly in Division Six introducing new people to Dianetics and Scientology. I then worked in the Sea Organization at INCOMM and the CMO where I learned how to establish organizations. I then became the Executive Director of a Class V Org in the United Kingdom. At the time it was the smallest most failing org on the planet and we built it to the most successful Class V org in the UK to date. Our watch word was “Service” and as news spread public even travelled from Europe to attend services. I then spent a year managing the second largest Scientology organizations in the world -- the Sea Org Service Orgs (Advanced Orgs).

Why I decided to be a Founding member of Milestone Two: I decided to be a founding member of Milestone Two because I want to ensure that the Technology of Dianetics and Scientology is delivered to those who want it, and it is delivered solely for their benefit.

Mark Shreffler

How long in Scientology: 38 years. First contact was the Dianetics Book.

Auditor Training: NED. First Service in Scientology - The Hard TRs Course

Admin Training: SS 2; Exec Status 1, Various hats

Case Level: OT V

Years on staff/in the SO: 12 years on Staff (London, Cincinnati, San Francisco)

Key Posts/Products: Auditor, D of P, Tech Sec, OES, HES, PES, Public Reg, Dir Public Services. Freelance for 25 years, seminars and workshops in 15 countries, 10,000+ people put on their first services. Specializes in creating feeder lines to groups and in the use of the OCA as a contact tool (see my website www.Perfectprofiler.com)

Why I decided to be a founding member of Milestone Two?

Scientology will only make it if it is Disseminated and standardly applied. I have seen many talking about what is happening in the Church today, but one thing that is NOT happening is the dissemination and application of Scientology.

Milestone Two is a band of committed veterans determined to support any activity that disseminates and standardly applies the technologies of Scientology. I’m honored to be a Founding Member of this group.

Jim Logan

How long in Scientology? 38 years, got in in early 1975.

Tech Training: Senior Course Sup, Professional Word Clearer, Cramming Officer, Grad IV/NOTs Auditor. Currently mid-way through the chronological study of the entire subject (a full BC type study of the entire work, including every bulletin, tape, book and policy, in date order.)

Admin Training: OEC/FEBC/Data Series (the Exec Dir Full Hat).

Case Level: On Solo NOTs.

Years staff/Sea Org: 14 years

Why I decided to be a Founding Member of Milestone Two: I have decided to be a Founding Member of Milestone to take my share of the responsibility for the impact of Scientology on the world around me. The passing on of the gains, the knowledge, the new life that the legacy of this body of work had provided me, is a meaningful purpose that I embrace.

Bernie Wimbush

How long in Scientology: Did free course in 1959

Auditor Training: Class 8

Admin Training: OEC

Case Level: On Solo Nots

Key Posts/Products: at Perth Org, Auditor, Free course lecturer, At StHill, KOT, Class 8 supervisor, auditor, at Stevens Creek mission, auditor, cramming officer, Qual sec, OES and holding Senior Case Supervisor, at Perth after declare, developed a system of selling life repair to public on a viable basis.

Why I decided to be a founding member of Milestone Two? I can see the only way to get Scientology back on track is with a powerful free group. I have a lot of admiration for Lana and believe that she can facilitate it happening.

Silvia Llorens

How long in Scientology: In Scientology since 1978, totalling 35 years.

Auditor Training: Class IX auditor, Class IX cramming officer

Admin Training: Data Series Evaluator Course, Debug Tech, Executive Status II

Case Level: OT VII

Years on the SO/Staff: FSO staff for 23 years

Key Posts/Products: Cramming officer for auditors from Level IV to Class XII and FSO executives. NOTS Auditor at FSO Advanced Org.

Why I decided to be a founding member of Milestone Two:

I decided to be a Founding Member of Milestone Two as for years a have witnessed over and over the spectacular results LRH´s technology can give to every single individual. I have great respect for Auditors and Staff alike, and for any Scientologist that has the purpose to improve his/her conditions as well as for those who dedicate their knowledge and abilities to help others get better and be more able. This technology is simple and it works.

Having such knowledge I can´t do anything better in life than to apply it and share it with others. I could not just sit around and let my abilities die and I neither wanted to not give a hand to those who are reaching for or using this applied philosophy. Also, seeing that Milestone Two is a fraternity where help and guidance will be provided to the many Independents around the world, and seeing that we are not going to manage or direct their activities, but rather work together with them to improve conditions, was a key point for me to participate on this.

I intend to use my training as a Cramming Officer and as a Class IX to work together with you so as to ensure the purity of LRH´s applied philosophy remains amongst those who know it works when properly and correctly applied. Scientology is a game...a great game. I love playing it and seeing myself and others wining with it. So, we do welcome those who share similar purposes and objectives.

Lana Mitchell

How long in Scientology: Came in this lifetime in 1985 (28 years). Last lifetime Dianetic Clear (1957)

Auditor Training: SOLO Course, RPF Auditor, Class IX (provisional and currently on internships)

Admin Training: OEC Vol. 0, Exec Status 1, Management Series (PR, Marketing, Admin Know-How, Org Series, Esto Series, Finance Series), Elementary Data Series Evaluator Course (2 times), Program Writers Course, Programs Execution Course, Professional Debug Course, numerous Full Hats including Commanding Officer, D/CO Internal, Programs Operator and Investigations Officer.

Case Level: Currently auditing on OT V

Years in the SO: 17 years, at 3 echelons.

Key Posts/Products: CMO Programs Operator for WISE, SMI, ABLE and Pubs, Commanding Officer CMO PAC, D/CO Internal CMO PAC, Universe Corps Programs Operator CMO Int, General Standards Officer RTC, Director of Org Policing RTC, Security Officer RTC, Investigations Officer RTC, Data & Analysis Off RTC, D/IG Internal Affairs RTC, VIP Chef Gold.

Why I decided to be a founding member of Milestone Two?

I have been watching the fragmented field for the last several years, seen the noise, the failed purposes, the confusion and the loss that so many have experienced. I created iScientology blog as a stable datum on tech application, in an effort to create something for people to grab a hold of in a seemingly very uncertain world.

A few months ago I did a survey to see if there was interest in creating a 3rd dynamic membership group with the purpose to build tech resources for delivery in the field and for dissemination, and the results of that survey brought me to tears. I had not realized how many others also had a 3rd dynamic and 4th dynamic purpose related to Scientology. Something much bigger that they had been a part of, that they felt they had lost, or that that had been betrayed on. Based on that, I started contacting individuals (above), one by one, running my idea past them, and finding out if they would be willing to help put Scientology back on the map for the 3rd and 4th dynamics. The rest has been a rocket ride – and I suspect that ride has only just begun. The number of people of good intention and with strong purpose, who have contacted me in the last few months, is really heartening.

I feel the future is very bright. For all of us.

Anonymous · Jun 17, 2013

The return of Disconnection?

Milestone Two - Function monitors Structure
http://www.iscientology.org/scientology-blog/466-milestone-two-function-monitors-structure

Excepts:

An associate member can become a Full Member by;

* * *

2) passing a PTS A-J check and Help & Control Check by someone qualified to use an e-Meter;

* * * *

Staff of Milestone Two have responsibility for ethics within the Membership fraternity and community – however this is simply to hold the channels firm for the delivery and execution of Milestone Two programs and activities – not for any other dreamed up purpose or counter purpose. HCO Milestone Two is there to detect and deal with PTSes and SPs that create trouble within the organization – but has no interest in the personal lives or activities of individual members.

HCO of Milestone Two can revoke an individual’s membership with Milestone Two if a Member refuses to cooperate or deal with a PTS situation that is impacting on Milestone Two activities. They can also revoke permission for the member to use the Independent Scientology logo for whatever projects or activities they are involved in.

How can they do a "PTS A-J check" as a requirement to become a Full (voting) Member, but say they have "no interest in the personal lives or activities of individual members?" What if HCO determines the applicant for Full Membership is PTS to someone in their personal life (e.g., spouse, child, parent, friend)?

How can they say they will "detect and deal with PTSes and SPs that create trouble within the organization," but they have "no interest in the personal lives or activities of individual members?" Again, what happens if they determine that an Associate or Full Member is PTS to someone in their personal life (e.g., spouse, child, parent, friend)?

What does it mean to "refuse[] to cooperate or deal with a PTS situation that is impacting on Milestone Two activities?" If one cannot "handle," would one be required to disconnect? If one cannot "handle," would a refusal to disconnect constitute a refusal to cooperate, resulting in the revocation of one's membership and the revocation of one's right to use the Independent Scientology logo?

Then we of course have the:

Justice Committee

A Justice Committee exists, separate to the Council and to staff and executives of Milestone Two. This committee is comprised of 3 Full Members, hatted on ethics policy and original justice codes, with the function of being a last port of call on technically incorrect findings and instances of flagrant injustice or out-ethics actions which are destructive to statistics.

The Justice Committee has a Chairman with two members, and can conduct Board of Investigations, Board of Reviews and Committees of Evidence. These are convened by the Council if situations come to their attention that have not been handled by HCO Milestone Two effectively and must be handled for the Membership Community.

As a last port of call, the Justice Committee can also initiate justice actions on any council member or executive/staff member of Milestone Two if reports to HCO have not resolved severe ethics matters.

Anonymous · Jun 17, 2013

Milestone Two - Function monitors Structure
http://www.iscientology.org/scientology-blog/466-milestone-two-function-monitors-structure

Justice Committee

A Justice Committee exists, separate to the Council and to staff and executives of Milestone Two. This committee is comprised of 3 Full Members, hatted on ethics policy and original justice codes, with the function of being a last port of call on technically incorrect findings and instances of flagrant injustice or out-ethics actions which are destructive to statistics.

The Justice Committee has a Chairman with two members, and can conduct Board of Investigations, Board of Reviews and Committees of Evidence. These are convened by the Council if situations come to their attention that have not been handled by HCO Milestone Two effectively and must be handled for the Membership Community.

As a last port of call, the Justice Committee can also initiate justice actions on any council member or executive/staff member of Milestone Two if reports to HCO have not resolved severe ethics matters.

Query:

Does "ethics policy and original justice codes" include Fair Game?

Does "ethics policy and original justice codes" include Disconnection? How else, as addressed in the prior post, would (or could) the "Membership Community" handle a PTS situation where the person who was PTS refused, or was unable, to handle?

Does "ethics policy and original justice codes" include the Kha Khan principle of ethics immunity?

Does "ethics policy and original justice codes" include doing the Greatest Good for the Greatest Number of Dynamics, as measured by statistics, such that the ends justifies the means?

Is it truly the case that "technically incorrect findings and instances of flagrant injustice or out-ethics actions" which are NOT "destructive to statistics" should not be subject to review by the Justice Committee, or if subject to review not subject to sanction or correction?

jensting · Jun 17, 2013

Anonymous said: ↑

If you are talking about OSA infiltrating the new Indie Membership Community, note that:

http://www.iscientology.org/scientology-blog/466-milestone-two-function-monitors-structure
So, to become a full, voting Member, the OSA agent would have to beat the Indie PTS A-J check and Help & Control Check, but if the OSA agent can beat the Indie PTS A-J check and Help & Control Check, then....

so, the only way for OSA to get someone in is to find someone who can repeatedly fool the e-meter (and who is willing to let OSA know that they can do that). That could work

Anonymous · Jun 17, 2013

jensting said: ↑

so, the only way for OSA to get someone in is to find someone who can repeatedly fool the e-meter (and who is willing to let OSA know that they can do that). That could work

Not if head spai Hobson is running the meeting. Nothing gets past that guy.

Anonymous · Jun 18, 2013

Anonymous said: ↑

Not if head spai Hobson is running the meeting. Nothing gets past that guy.

All I can see now is Hobson the Grey roaring, "You shall not pass!" at OSA spai.

Anonymous · Jun 19, 2013

New IS Not-For-Profit Membership Org denigrating "wogs?"

http://www.iscientology.org/scientology-blog/468-milestone-two-disclaimer#comment-1920

# Paul M. Foster 2013-06-19 11:07
Indeed. The very existence of this group indicates OT action. It's been needed for some time and Lana and the others actually stepped up and did it. VWD for that.

My experience with founding and running groups is that there will be a few working on the objectives of the group, and a great many who are silent members. Of course, these were wog groups. Let's postulate that a group of Scientologists will do better.

Anonymous · Jun 19, 2013

http://www.iscientology.org/scientology-blog/468-milestone-two-disclaimer#comment-1920

# Paul M. Foster 2013-06-19 11:07

Indeed. The very existence of this group indicates OT action. It's been needed for some time and Lana and the others actually stepped up and did it. VWD for that.

My experience with founding and running groups is that there will be a few working on the objectives of the group, and a great many who are silent members. Of course, these were wog groups. Let's postulate that a group of Scientologists will do better.

# CommunicatorIC 2013-06-19 19:45

Quoting Paul M. Foster:

Of course, these were wog groups.

Paul,

Are you sure you want to start your new Independent Scientology Membership Community by condescendingly denigrating, disparaging and disrespecting "wogs?"

Is it really the best way to maintain a friendly environment to post such denigration, disparagement and disrespect of "wogs" on a public forum on the Internet?

I could go to the corporate Church of Scientology if I wanted my non-Scientologist friends disrespected as "wogs."

Normally, I would not attempt to post such contentious and disagreeable content here. I thought, however, that I should have the confront to post here what I would say (and indeed have said) elsewhere.

I also think your community may want to give some thought to your group's use of the term "wog," particularly in the context where the clear implication is that wogs (and "wog groups") are inferior.

-- CommunicatorIC

Golden Age of Protest · Jun 20, 2013

Good Work IC.

But they can call me a wog all day long, I am 100% certain that I will have the last laugh as they explode into the usual drama. Then they will start looking around for the SP that's fucking things up.

These people just never learn - its hilarious.

Anonymous · Jun 20, 2013

http://www.iscientology.org/scientology-blog/468-milestone-two-disclaimer#comment-1930

# Richard Lloyd-Robert 2013-06-20 07:01

I agree with you KFrancis. There are many discussions out there about Milestone 2 that feature distrust and negativity about the group. Scattered amongst them are us supporting the group that keep injecting positive theta comm and support. That's the right action. As long as the group keeps away from the old politics and just provides support and tech help it will flourish. It should not attack Scientology or Scientologists in any way. It has to be a safe haven that gets people up the bridge somehow. There are too many hate sites. Keep this uptone and on source.

Anonymous · Jun 20, 2013

New IS Not-For-Profit Membership Community REJECTS use of the word "wog."

Interesting development, and to give credit where credit is due:

Most recent comment by Steve "Thoughtful" Hall is in red.

http://www.iscientology.org/scientology-blog/468-milestone-two-disclaimer#comment-1920

# Paul M. Foster 2013-06-19 11:07

Indeed. The very existence of this group indicates OT action. It's been needed for some time and Lana and the others actually stepped up and did it. VWD for that.

My experience with founding and running groups is that there will be a few working on the objectives of the group, and a great many who are silent members. Of course, these were wog groups. Let's postulate that a group of Scientologists will do better.

# CommunicatorIC 2013-06-19 19:45

Quoting Paul M. Foster:

Of course, these were wog groups.

Paul,

Are you sure you want to start your new Independent Scientology Membership Community by condescendingly denigrating, disparaging and disrespecting "wogs?"

Is it really the best way to maintain a friendly environment to post such denigration, disparagement and disrespect of "wogs" on a public forum on the Internet?

I could go to the corporate Church of Scientology if I wanted my non-Scientologist friends disrespected as "wogs."

Normally, I would not attempt to post such contentious and disagreeable content here. I thought, however, that I should have the confront to post here what I would say (and indeed have said) elsewhere.

I also think your community may want to give some thought to your group's use of the term "wog," particularly in the context where the clear implication is that wogs (and "wog groups") are inferior.

-- CommunicatorIC

# Thoughtful 2013-06-20 18:42

Yes, you are totally right. The word should not have been used because it has been used consistently by many as a pejorative term. And the fact is, we don't need it. I never use the term myself. Times have changed. Thanks for speaking up. I edited it out of the original comment.

Condescending attitudes, pejorative terms and arrogance have no part in any philosophy. Why? Because it defeats the very idea of "philosophy" which means love of wisdom. When we use terms that marginalize well-meaning people it defeats the purpose. Thanks to Communicator I/C and to Sandy for bringing it to my attention.

jensting · Jun 20, 2013

Anonymous said: ↑

...

Condescending attitudes, pejorative terms and arrogance have no part in any philosophy. Why? Because it defeats the very idea of "philosophy" which means love of wisdom.

Hubbard is not for them, in that case.

aonemus · Jun 22, 2013

Anonymous said: ↑

IAS is a criminal membership that has made millions from coercing its "church" membership. We're Independent Scientologists, we're different. We'll set up a non-profit with an international membership to coerce donations from those brainwashed outside the church cult.

That was funny. Thanks.

aonemus · Jun 22, 2013

Anonymous said: ↑

Alright, I'll ask the question everybody is dying to know......

What role will Hobs play in the new regime?

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aonemus · Jun 22, 2013

That's easy. Sneakster will be (or, already is) the Inspector General.

Anonymous · Jun 22, 2013

aonemus said: ↑

That's easy. Sneakster will be (or, already is) the Inspector General Mall Cop.

Anonymous · Jun 22, 2013

"aonemus said: ↑

That's easy. Sneakster will be (or, already is) the Inspector General.

http://markrathbun.wordpress.com/2013/06/20/the-way-out-is-not-the-way-back-in/#comment-269433

Michael Hobson | June 20, 2013 at 8:52 pm | Reply
This entire affair profoundly saddens me – well past tears.
Michael A. Hobson
Independent Scientologist

Anonymous · Jun 22, 2013

Anonymous said: ↑

http://markrathbun.wordpress.com/2013/06/20/the-way-out-is-not-the-way-back-in/#comment-269433

Poor Sneaky. Hope he's not a comfort eater

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