Katie Holmes addicted to E-meter "drug" claim

Discussion in 'Tom and Katie' started by Sponge, Jan 23, 2011.

  1. Sponge Member
    (initially mentioned inside this thread: )

    Star magazine (USA) spins an article about claims that Katie Holmes is addicted to the euphoria resulting from her scientology e-meter sessions into a cover story headline which misleadingly reads "Addiction Nightmare- Katie DRUG SHOCKER - The real reason she can't leave Tom". points out...

    (19th Jan 2011)

    Without the misleading headline it still sounds like it might be an interesting article, not as to whether the claim about Holmes is correct, but more for getting the info out that E-meter sessions can be addictive. Star is only available in print so if anyone gets a copy then do let us know if it is any good or whether it's largely the usual tripe. *EDIT: article scans below also reports on the misleading Star mag headline....

    Star Magazine, print article scans. Contributions from Arnie Lerma, Prof. David Touretzky and Amy Scobee.......





    [Thanks Glibby for the heads up on the scans]
  2. Smurf Member

    A ex-Scio friend in Clearwater informed me that Catherine "Cass" Mapother Darmody is now living in L.A. with Tom & Katie. Seems that Cass divorced her husband, Tim, for the 2nd time after he tired of the cult and blew. Their young son, Aden, lives with Cass in L.A.; their other son, Liam is on staff in Persianovskiy, Rostov Oblast, Russia, where Scientology is establishing a foothold after the cult won in the Russian courts.

    Liam has a Facebook page.. ... 0081540278
  3. OTBT Member

  4. slobeck Member

    Funny, how I try and not give a fuck about Tom, Katie, John or Kirstie. But reading stuff about how whack-a-doodle they are is sort of fun.
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  5. Ersatz Global Moderator

    Addicted to the e meter? And Arnie Lerma quoted saying it was like heroine? I am finding that hard to believe. Any exes care to back this up?
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  6. Paroxetine Samurai Moderator

    Yeah I agree...

    I know that anything can have addictive properties depending on the person, but how can an E-Meter? I didn't know it had some sort of biofeedback that may trigger an addictive catalyst to one dispositioned to addiction.
  7. Squirrel King Member

    It has to do with our old friend: dopamine. Much like you can get "addicted" to video games and internet porn, the "love bombing" aspects of the auditing can be very powerful -- a.k.a. neurologically stimulating. But an ex can tell you if I am full of excrement.
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  8. Triumph Member

    its not just the e-meter-they are also referring to the auditing process
  9. Ersatz Global Moderator
    I lol'd
  10. Paroxetine Samurai Moderator

    I bet you are right. I knew about auditing involving 2 people, unless they can self audit. Still, I don't know if there was any biofeedback from the E-Meters themselves to cause any dopamine to be released.

    Video games, for example, have an audio/visual/sensory biofeedback to cause such a response. (ie: the controllers shake when you fire a gun or something, you reach a goal, etc.) Drugs like Heroin and Meth cause dopamine to be released as a response to the drug. Certain OCD conditions also have a said response. So, maybe that is one way to explain the "E-Meter Addiction". Still, I would think there would be some dopamine-releasing payback for using an E-Meter other than somebody asking questions.
  11. Herro Member

    Lol, now star magazine is the authority on mental health? I thought that was Scientology.
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  12. Anonymous Member

    Both are equally qualified.
  13. Miranda Member

    Do I smell conspiracy?

    Sorry... couldn't help it.
  14. Anonymous Member

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  15. afternon Member

    Not seen this for ages, but, I see part of the auditing process being coldreading, albeit unintentional coldreading with the sacred emeter taking the place of the fake clairvoyant. I also find the defining of each word and over reliance on the emeter to be mechanical and detached from the person being audited in ways that a therapist would not be.

    In the end, the person being audited will "mock up" images and events to what the emeter is doing instead of the emeter actually detecting events. You have to ask what comparisons do the freezone scientologists have to draw upon? If any of them could ignor their induced phobia of psychologists- they may well find that a professional therapist would give them results far faster and more flexibly.
  16. OTBT Member

    I'm an ex. In my experience, auditing can be addictive. Dianetic auditing (without e-meter) much less so than scientology auditing (with e-meter). The auditing can be very mentally seductive and relaxing, like a positive bio-feedback semi-hypnosis pleasant feeling.

    No, the E-meter itself does not release dopamine. But the entire auditing experience can be very addictive.

    There are theories about the minuscule amount of DC current going through the body via the e-meter that creates a pleasant mental state, which I tend to give some credence to. Way before scientology, medical people used to run small DC currents through people to make them feel better. I tend to think that simply running a small DC current through someone's body for an hour will help the person relax and feel good.
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  17. Scatman Member

    I concluded that auditing off an emeter has no addictive properties, but the dc current from the emeter does produce a mild euphoric effect. I would not call it relaxing, but euphoric. The mental images one sees in auditing are a mixture of true memories and false memories. So, I think auditing on an emeter creates both delusions and euphoria, which, on present hedonistic oriented people, results in an addiction to auditing.
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  18. OTBT Member

    ^ yes, euphoric is a much better word. Sorry, I'm not a very good wordsmith.

    And I agree with Scatman's opinion, it matches my own experiences of auditing, both on and off the e-meter.
  19. WagTheWog Member

    A great quote in that video says a lot about the brain washing aspect of auditing:
    "I'm to relax, concentrate and, above all, not judge or analyze the process, as this will nullify its effectiveness."
  20. Anonymous Member


    Are they so sure that isn't TC with a pony tail?
  21. Anonymous Member

  22. Anonymous Member

    Lol @ sciSlaves still working the comments sections as if it even matters any more:
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  23. Sponge Member

    Exclusive: Katie Holmes to Sue American Media for $50 Million
    The Wrap March 01, 2011

    Other media/comment....
  24. OTBT Member

    Screw Katie. She's beyond salvaging from scientology for the time being. It will be curious to see her reaction in a few years after the church of scientology effectively implodes, after mass defections, especially defections of celebrities.
  25. Anonymous Member

    Katie Holmes sues Star Magazine over cover

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  26. LocalSP Member

    YES! Go for it Katie, sue them.
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  27. Triumph Member

    Yes! and subpoena all the private hidden camera auditing sessions and files.
    and all the super secret security camera footage taken inside outside and in the parking garage the CC..

    and the dashboard camera tom has hidden inside his limo to keep and eye on Katie!...

    including the toilet they have toilet cams??? they film everything else...why not!

    and suri's super secret barly water bottle camera! get it all!...

    $50 milion is what Katie needs to bankroll her escape from Tom
  28. Sponge Member

    The Hollywood reporter has the full lawsuit & exhibits dox in a 23 page pdf embedded here, including the original threat letter and American Media's response.

    Underneath the Covers of the Katie Holmes $50 Million Defamation Lawsuit
    Hollywood Reporter 1st March 2011

    Can someone with a fagbook account download that pdf from scribd and megaupload plox?
  29. subgenius Member

    Game ON!
    Is it really dated 3/1/11 (today)
    Oh fuck
    Game is ON!
    device is "inert"?????
    where are the carpenters when we need them ("We've only just begun....")
  30. subgenius Member

    I d/l ed from the ling as a pdf try it
  31. Anonymous Member

    LOL! "untrue, unethical and unlawful"-three things the Cult excels at.
    ...because it is damaging to the Cult.
  32. Smurf Member

    Bert Fields knows, of all people, that the lawyers for Star Magazine will be able to grill her in deposition over her Scientology practices & beliefs, which will be even more fodder for tabloid news.
  33. Anonymous Member

    the headline is odd. unless they were to go into a story about Katie bot semi forcefully ingesting high quantities of Niacin and cal mag or somesuch. one tab had pictures of her awhile ago where her skin literally had a purplish tint to it - from the "purif" niacin flush.

    she is playing stepmother to a girl whose biological father is buttfucking her husband tommyboi.
    is it also a religious swingers club? there is yet another minefield of bombs yet to come out about these creeps.
  34. JohnnyRUClear Member

    Sounds good. How much popcorn we gonna need?
  35. subgenius Member

  36. ArnieLerma Member

    Seeing there are two threads, and seeing I got quoted, here is a comment on the article and lawsuit:
    a link to Google scholar, for the search terms: electricity endorphins,5&q=electricity endorphins
    2100 links

    and a link to Lermanet's E-meter pages
    put electricity endorphins into google web, the top 3 links are pages from Exposing the CON endorphins&btnG=Search&aq=f&aqi&aql&oq

    The 4th link is a long thread on whyweprotest!!

    1. The E-Meter Papers - Citations in support of Arnie Lerma's E-meter ...
      - 11:04pm
      Medical Citations supporting evidence of electrical stimulation of endorphins in the human body by the 80 uAmp shunt current of the Scientology E-meter. - Cached - Similar
    2. The E-Meter Papers - How Does Scientology Auditing Work? The ...

      One theory of how electrical pain killing works, is that it induces the body ... - Cached - Similar
    3. homepage; The truth about the Fraud called Scientology

      Electricity will induce the human body to release endorphins, these are the ... - Cached - Similar
      Show more results from
    4. Scientology's Biggest Secret - Electricity and Endorphins - Why We ...

      20 posts - 10 authors - Last post: Feb 24, 2008
      When I was in, because of my background in electronics, I was called to help run their E-meter production facility, called at that time 1971 ... - Cached
  37. Anonymous Member

    Not an x-sci.. but have you ever been in a bad relationship where the more you give the less you get? I imagine "the bridge" to be like that.
  38. Anonymous Member

    Bingo. That and my post above.
  39. Zak McKracken Member

    Is it too late to save her? :sad face:
  40. Anonymous Member

    save her from living like Cruella DeVille, flying around on private jets to their various posh abodes with staff to cater to her every single need and unlimited rodeo drive level shopping sprees? shhh, but she is not so innocent anymores. she loves money.

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