Laura DeCrescenzo forced-abortion lawsuit updates

Discussion in 'Media' started by The Wrong Guy, Mar 20, 2013.

  1. The Wrong Guy Member

    Pearl Harbor Day 2015 — Mark your calendar for a day that will live in Scientology infamy

    Finally, we have a new trial date in Laura DeCrescenzo’s forced abortion lawsuit against the Church of Scientology. Filed in 2009, the lawsuit has had a very complex history as the church challenged it on statute of limitation grounds, resulting in the suit’s dismissal. But an appeals court revived it, Laura then fought all the way to the US Supreme Court to get key records of her own confessional auditing sessions, and then she survived Scientology’s motion for summary judgment — a dramatic day in court we were present for.

    Through all of that legal wrangling, Laura has simply been trying to get to a trial so she can tell her story to a jury — that as a member of Scientology’s Sea Org, she was mistreated and enslaved as a young child, and then, at 17, was forced to have an abortion so she could continue to work extremely long hours. She finally faked a suicide attempt by gulping some bleach in order to get away from the Sea Org in 2004.

    After she defeated the motion for summary judgment, Judge Ronald Sohigian retired, and the case was reassigned three times before landing in the court of Judge Rolf Michael Treu. And now, Judge Treu has announced a trial date: December 7, 2015.

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  2. Random guy Member

    While I'm sure DeCrescenzo is sick and tired of the waiting game, the stall tactics has given her one benefit: For each passing month, the cults legal position has weakened. The legal know-how of scientology litigation is steadily building up in the legal community. The internet has de-fanged OSA and made it harder and harder for the cult to press and buy off judge. The steadily increasing barrage of court cases are stretching the cults resources. While suing the cult is still extremely risky, it has never been a better time to take the cult to court, and it will likely only become better and better.

    I hope she gets her day before a jury!
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  3. wolfbane Member

    Regarding this twist
    Even though it came from TeamScilon, the feels make this seem like a good thing. The entire case hinges on this decision, and it's the issue that got them another shot at a jury trial when the appeal reversed things in their favor. I'm speculating that no matter which way the SOL ruling goes, another appeal or three will surely happen on that decision, which will stall the actual trial anyway.

    But with the pre-planned split, at least the judge will have an easier go of staying on top of things he needs to know and his clerk will have an easier time keeping his calendar organized.
  4. RightOn Member

    go get 'em Laura!
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  5. The Wrong Guy Member

    Laura DeCrescenzo gets a small win as she waits for trial | The Underground Bunker

    It’s been a long time since we had an update for you in Laura DeCrescenzo’s forced-abortion lawsuit against the Church of Scientology. Things have quieted down since she won a huge victory and survived the church’s motion for summary judgment in October 2013. Since then, the case has been through several judge changes after the retirement of Judge Ronald Sohigian.

    With a new judge finally in place, a trial date was set for December 7, 2015. But Scientology still had another motion to consider, this one about compelling Laura to turn over some old computers she supposedly had sitting in her garage.

    Scientology watches Laura’s social media activity like a hawk, and because she does business online, she can’t simply keep quiet. During one exchange with a friend, she mentioned that it had taken a while to get caught up in her email inbox.

    Scientology then rushed into court, accusing Laura of erasing key evidence — without any proof that that was going on. The church asked that Laura turn over old computer equipment in what was obviously a fishing expedition.

    And on February 3, Judge Rolf M. Treu agreed with that assessment, denying Scientology’s motion.

    What surprises will Scientology dream up between now and that December 7 trial date?
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  6. RightOn Member

    good news!
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  7. The Wrong Guy Member

    Judge allows psychiatric evaluation for ex-Scientologist suing church | City News Service

    A judge Thursday issued a tentative ruling allowing a psychiatrist picked by the defense to evaluate a former Church of Scientology member who is suing the institution, alleging she was coerced to have an abortion at age 17.

    Laura Ann DeCrescenzo also claims that, as a child, she was forced work long hours for the church’s elite Sea Org, which acts as an administrative unit.

    Los Angeles Superior Court Judge Rolf M. Treu said the church’s request to have DeCrescenzo interviewed is reasonable because she has made her mental condition an issue by claiming emotional fallout from her history with the church.

    “Indeed, plaintiff alleges that she suffers from severe emotional distress, including anxiety, embarrassment, humiliation, shame, depression, feelings of powerlessness and anguish,” Treu wrote.

    Treu also said that he will not limit the scope of the examination as requested by DeCrescenzo’s attorneys. They wanted to keep the psychiatrist from asking their client about her legal history as well as any disability claims or substance abuse. The lawyers also wanted the psychiatrist to review their client’s deposition testimony and sworn declaration so she would not be questioned on the same issues.

    “The court declines to impose such limitations and requirements,” Treu wrote.

    Treu also denied a request by the plaintiff’s lawyers to limit the length of the mental evaluation to six hours.

    He is scheduled to hear arguments on the motion Friday before issuing a final ruling.

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  8. DeathHamster Member

    Considering the hate Scientology has for psychiatrists, I wonder what kind of mercenary will take their money?
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  9. Latest docket actions on LauraD's case from lacourt dot org, case number BC411018:






    5/6/2015 PROOF OF SERVICE

    2/3/2015 Minute Order


    Guessing (Googlefu failed to confirm it) that Rosenberg is the cult's preferred psych.

    There is a James E Rosenberg psych from Van Nuys, but no James M from greater LA area that a quickie search turned up. Docket typos do happen on a not-so-rare basis, so without the actual M.D. dox accuracy of the middle initial listed above is questionable.
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  12. RightOn Member

    why wouldn't the judge agree to an un biased psychiatrist? Not chosen by either side.
    Not that the cult couldn't pay that person off also, but at least it wouldn't be picked by the cult
  13. RightOn Member

    but but...
    the IAS just put out a promo about Nepal saying that they will fill people in on the "psychiatric influence on the disaster zones and what the IAS is doing to expose it" AND people will not "hear about it from the media ".

    Now why would the COS want a psychiatric eval performed on Laura when they think the psychs have an influence on the disaster zones in Nepal?
    That's a real head scratcher. eh? :D
  14. BigBeard Member

    If they can get their psych to say, without firm rebuttal, Laura wasn't actually feeling pressured not to sue when her side says she was, it could potentially blow the statute of limitations extension out of the water. Which in turn kills the whole case.

    That's the only reason I can think of for $cientology, despite their vehement opposition to psych's, to bring one in.

  15. The Wrong Guy Member

    With a trial looming in 6-year forced-abortion lawsuit, Scientology cries ‘but we’re a religion!’

    By Tony Ortega, The Underground Bunker, August 13, 2015

    In 2013, the Underground Bunker provided live coverage as Laura DeCrescenzo’s forced-abortion lawsuit survived a major challenge by the Church of Scientology. Laura sued the church in 2009 because she alleges that she was abused as a “Sea Org” worker who, for example, was made to work 90-hour weeks for pennies an hour — and that’s when she was 12 years old. When she turned 13, she was moved to an adult schedule of 112-hour weeks. At 17, while still technically a child, she says she was coerced into having an abortion — something other women have alleged was standard policy in the Sea Org, where having children was forbidden because it would prevent them from working so much.

    After four years of complex legal wrangling — which even included Scientology’s failed attempt to have the US Supreme Court intervene — DeCrescenzo’s legal team convinced LA Superior Court Judge Ronald Sohigian that there was enough evidence of Scientology’s shocking treatment of Laura that a jury should sort out who was telling the truth. Sohigian denied Scientology’s motion for summary judgment. Sohigian then retired, and the new judge in the case scheduled trial for December 7, 2015.

    But now, as that trial date looms, Scientology has filed yet another voluminous motion for summary judgment — and this time, it’s a familiar refrain.

    Scientology’s new motion boils down simply to this: Even if Laura DeCrescenzo were subjected to horrific treatment, it just doesn’t matter, because Scientology calls itself a religion and Laura was once a participant in that religion.

    We’re told that Laura’s camp expected this move by the church. But we think our readers will find the particulars of the motion fascinating to read.

    We’re also interested to see that the new motion is signed by attorney Bert Deixler, one of Scientology’s go-to litigants in his case.

    It was Deixler, we’ve pointed out before, who went to both the California and US Supreme Courts and argued to both of them that Scientology should not be forced to turn over Laura DeCrescenzo’s personal files to her. Why? Because the material in them was deeply “religious,” he argued, and forcing the church to turn over that evidence would be harmful to the church’s religious rights.

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  16. My preferred headline is below.

    Scientology argues that coerced abortions are a religious practice protected by the First Amendment.

    Tony Ortega: With a trial looming in 6-year forced-abortion lawsuit, Scientology cries ‘but we’re a religion!’

    Scientology's Motion for Summary Judgment

    Scientology Declaration.
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  17. anon8109 Member

    Scientology argues that coerced abortions are a religious practice protected by the First Amendment.
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  18. RightOn Member

    Why doesn't the US Government just propose a new bill for religions and the law?
    "If it is Religious.... Anything Goes"
    oh wait.....
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  19. BigBeard Member

    If the judge buys into Cof$'s arguement, how long do you figure before the first temple for human sacrifice to end the west coast drought goes up??

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  20. RightOn Member

    Indeed. Where will the cut off be?
  21. The Wrong Guy Member

    Why no one should ever join Scientology’s ‘Sea Org’

    By Tony Ortega, The Underground Bunker, August 15, 2015

    Frequent contributor Jeffrey Augustine told us he was surprised to see how some of the language in Scientology’s latest court filing — in the Laura DeCrescenzo lawsuit — dovetailed in such interesting ways with the recent explorations he’s been making into the church’s legal underpinnings. We told him to let that take him where it would, and here’s the result:

    Last week we discussed the reason why no one should ever believe anything said by Scientology Sea Org or staff members. And as we saw in Thursday’s column by Tony Ortega, the Church is fighting back in Laura DeCrescenzo’s forced-abortion lawsuit by arguing that the brutality it visits upon its staff is fully protected religious activity.

    The Church’s legal filing in this case provides a frightening and instructive argument for our proposition that no one should ever join the Church of Scientology’s Sea Org. In the DeCrescenzo filing, the Church has made it perfectly clear that it is more than willing to weaponize the First Amendment in order to protect its shameless, self-serving, and bare-knuckled treatment of Sea Org members. When push comes to shove, the Church’s message is crystal clear: Sea Org have no legal protections from Scientology’s inherent brutality:

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  22. The Wrong Guy Member

    Laura DeCrescenzo answers Scientology ‘religion’ gambit on eve of key hearing

    By Tony Ortega, The Underground Bunker, October 21, 2015

    Less than seven weeks away from a trial she’s been awaiting more than six years, Laura DeCrescenzo has to get over yet another hurdle this week placed in her way by the Church of Scientology.

    Laura sued Scientology in 2009 claiming that she’d been abused in the church’s Sea Organization, and that she’d been forced to have an abortion while she was still 17 years old. Her case has been through a very complex history — including a failed petition by Scientology to the US Supreme Court, which resulted in the release of thousands of crucial documents. In 2013, Laura’s lawsuit survived a major step when Scientology’s motion for summary judgment was denied by Judge Ronald Sohigian. We were present for those fireworks as Sohigian found that Laura’s accusations were credible, and deserved to be heard by a jury. Sohigian then retired, and eventually the new Judge, Rolf M. Treu, set a trial date of December 7, 2015.

    With that date just weeks away, Laura has yet another obstacle to get past. Scientology filed yet another motion for summary judgment, this time saying that how it treats its “ministers” is its own business, and is protected by the First Amendment’s guarantee of religious freedom.

    Now, we have the response filed by Laura’s attorneys, and we’re looking forward to your analysis of it. But we don’t have a lot of time to consider her arguments: Judge Treu scheduled the hearing for the motion for summary judgment for tomorrow morning.

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  23. AnonLover Member

    LauraD made passing mention on FB that the hearing, which was set for tomorrow, has been postponed until Nov. 5th.

    Remember remember... seems fitting.
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  24. Quentinanon Member

    The cult tried that through Bill Clinton and the U.S. Congress via the Religious Freedom Restoration Act.
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  25. The Wrong Guy Member

    The church of sleep deprivation: How Scientology keeps its workers compliant and childless

    By Tony Ortega, Raw Story

    On December 7, a trial is scheduled to begin in Los Angeles that has been wending its way to a jury for more than six years. The plaintiff, a New Mexico woman named Laura DeCrescenzo, is suing the Church of Scientology for the abuse she allegedly suffered as a member of Scientology’s hard-core inner elite, known as the “Sea Organization.”

    Scientology fought all the way to the U.S. Supreme Court to try — unsuccessfully — to keep DeCrescenzo’s records as an employee and parishioner under wraps. These records tell a story that can seem unreal to someone not familiar with the “Sea Org” and its quasi-naval ranks and uniforms.

    It’s not just DeCrescenzo. Other former Sea Org workers talk of difficult, arguably abusive working conditions, from swabbing the decks of ocean-going vessels to cleaning toilets with toothbrushes to doing construction without any safety equipment.

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  26. AnonLover Member

    According to LauraD on FB: The hearing for the MSJ was rescheduled to Dec 15. At which point a new trial date will be set.
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  27. The Wrong Guy Member

    Next milestone in the Laura DeCrescenzo saga tomorrow

    By Tony Ortega, The Underground Bunker, December 14, 2015

    Tomorrow morning at 8:30 am (11:30 Eastern) a hearing is scheduled to begin at the Los Angeles Superior Court building downtown. Judge Rolf M. Treu will consider the Church of Scientology’s motion for summary judgment which cites its First Amendment religious rights in the forced-abortion lawsuit filed in 2009 by Laura DeCrescenzo.

    After Laura’s lawsuit survived a previous motion for summary judgment in 2013, she was given a December 7, 2015 trial date. But that’s now on hold as the church gets another bite at the apple. If Scientology can convince Judge Treu that its First Amendment protections allow it to do whatever it wants to its employees, even force abortion on a child, then Laura’s case will be tossed out. If he denies the motion, then a new trial date will be scheduled in 2016.

    We hope to have a correspondent on the scene, but if you can get down to the Stanley Mosk Courthouse with a laptop (we’ve live-blogged from the location in the past), we’d appreciate updates as things are happening. Drop us a line.

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  28. Random guy Member

    How many chances do the cult actually get to derail the case?
  29. The Wrong Guy Member

    Today in L.A.: Can Scientology kill a forced-abortion lawsuit in the name of religion?

    By Tony Ortega, The Underground Bunker, December 14, 2015

    The Underground Bunker will have correspondents on hand today at a Los Angeles Superior Court hearing scheduled for 8:30 am (11:30 am Eastern) as Laura DeCrescenzo’s forced-abortion lawsuit against the Church of Scientology faces yet another motion for summary judgment ahead of trial — six years after she first filed her complaint in 2009.


    Scientology will be arguing today that Laura made a choice to join a strict religious order, and that it’s not the business of a US civil court to judge the practices of that religion. Laura’s team will counter that Laura’s mistreatment had nothing to do with religion, and that no organization should imprison a young person and force her to have an abortion, whatever the beliefs of her tormentors.

    If Scientology’s motion wins, the lawsuit is over. If Laura wins, a new trial date will be scheduled in 2016.

    As soon as we start to get reports from the courtroom, we’ll post them at the bottom of the page.

    Tony added this comment:

    TonyOrtegaan hour ago

    Keep in mind, this is a pretty complex case. For example, there will actually be two trials if today's motion is denied.

    First, they'll have a trial on the argument about whether Laura filed on time, a very complicated situation about whether Scientology's undue influence kept her from filing earlier. My personal opinion is that Scientology believes it has a strong case, and that the testimony won't be too damaging, and so they will go to trial on this and won't offer a settlement.

    If they lose that, it's on to the second trial, about the facts. At that point I think they would offer to settle, and I wouldn't blame Laura if she took it. Her attorneys have worked a huge amount, we all know the facts already, and Laura, I don't think, wants to continue to be a campaigner or something.

    Of course, a trial on the facts would be spectacular and we'd all like to see it. But it's easy to tell someone else to roll the dice on years of effort and money spent, etc. I try to understand what they are going through.
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  30. Random guy Member

  31. Random guy Member

    Tony Ortega in comments:

    Oh well, that was enough excitement for today I think.
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  32. The Wrong Guy Member

    Here are some more updates from Tony:

    UPDATE: Judge Treu wants things spelled out more clearly, and has ordered a continuation and a paint-by-numbers kit to help him see the big picture.

    From his order today:


    UPDATE 2: Much thanks to Jeffrey Augustine and attorney Graham Berry for attending today’s scheduling hearing. Here are the new dates.

    Scientology will file its amended brief on January 21, 2016
    Laura’s team will file its amended brief on February 22
    Scientology will then file a reply on February 29

    The hearing on motion for summary judgment will then take place on March 7 at 8:30 am.

    Hey, who’s in a hurry?
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  34. The Wrong Guy Member

    Scientology, in forced-abortion case: We treat people no worse than the Catholic Church does

    By Tony Ortega, The Underground Bunker, January 28, 2016


    Now, Scientology is taking another bite at the apple, saying that Laura is exaggerating her claims, and even if it does treat its Sea Org members like crap, it’s a matter of religion which a civil court can’t get involved in.

    Laura’s team now has until February 22 to file its response, and then Scientology can reply on February 29. A hearing on the motion is scheduled for March 7.

    Here’s the Scientology filing. Please give us your thoughts on it.
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  35. Random guy Member

    So, the CoS claim coercing nuns to have an abortion is Catholic Church policy?
  36. The Internet Member

    Well I am late to the party. But shit, I hope people researched Dr. Rosenberg hard. If Scientology is using him, they own him. That means he has skeletons or he's a quack. I would bet money on it. And I would never agree to seeing a shrink owned by the cult. No way.

    Did this eval already happen? And where is the dirt on this loser doctor?

    Edit: As per my Googles, this doctor seems legit. He is even a big cheese, consulting for LA Law. So he probably makes good money and is not especially vulnerable to Scientology shenanigans. Glad I didn't bet any actual money.
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  37. The Wrong Guy Member

    Scientology attorney Bert Deixler writes a threat letter to Karen de la Carriere over TV show

    By Tony Ortega, The Underground Bunker, January 31, 2016

    A television production company filming an upcoming series about Scientology has apparently rattled the organization, judging by the nasty threat letter that attorney Bert Deixler sent out to Karen de la Carriere yesterday and which she shared with the Underground Bunker.


    Several weeks ago, the flier you see above was found around parts of Hollywood at Scientology’s Celebrity Centre. It was put together by a familiar reader here at the Bunker, Phil Jones, who in our comments section goes by the name “Sid.”

    Jones, a former longtime Scientologist, was in Los Angeles trying to reconnect with his son Mike and daughter Emily, who are members of Scientology’s hardcore “Sea Organization.” As part of his attempt to reunite with his son, Phil posted the flier hoping to get information about him while cameras were rolling for the upcoming television series.

    That effort has drawn a pointed response from Deixler, an attorney we’re familiar with because of his work on behalf of the Church of Scientology in several high-profile cases, including the forced-abortion lawsuit brought against the church by Laura DeCrescenzo. In this case, Deixler is working for Mike Jones, the Scientology Sea Org member.

    And one of the people who received a threat letter was Karen de la Carriere even though, she tells us, she has nothing to do with the television production.

    “Absolutely not,” she told us when we asked if she was involved in the series, which is being produced by documentary veterans Sirens Media. She also denies Deixler’s accusation that she’s being paid by Sirens, and that she violated Mike Jones’ privacy rights by helping with the production.

    When we pointed out that Deixler had accused her of “disgraceful acts,” she responded, “Well, they made a disgraceful act of letting my son die without medical treatment. They are the disgrace,” she says.

    She’s referring to the 2012 death of her son, Alexander Jentzsch, a Scientologist who, Karen says, was told to “disconnect” from her and then didn’t take proper care of himself. He died after taking a medication for back pain that worsened the case of pneumonia he was suffering from, and we covered Karen’s ordeal as Scientology members kept information from her and didn’t allow her to claim her son’s body. Since then, Karen has been one of the most outspoken critics of Scientology — and this isn’t her first aggressive threat letter.

    “Two years ago they used the exact same allegation against me, in the Lia Kea matter. Of course that was completely bogus. I didn’t know her or what she had done. But now they’re making the same accusation. It’s a repeat: I’m a ‘co-conspirator.’ It was bogus then and it’s bogus now,” she says, referring to a bizarre infiltration of the Sea Org by a woman named Yulia Keaton who was also known as Lia Kea. Although de la Carriere had nothing to do with Keaton’s stunt, the church was quick to point a finger at Karen.

    “They are desperate to get me. Today, I just passed 5 million views on my YouTube channel,” she told us last night, and sure enough, we checked her channel, “Surviving Scientology,” and it had just passed that milestone.

    “And, I am very angry that they are bypassing my counsel, Ray Jeffrey, and sending me this letter directly,” Karen says, explaining that she has complained about this in the past to Scientology’s attorneys. “Bert Deixler knows damn well that I’m represented by counsel. His office knows that.”

    Karen tells us she plans to do nothing in regards to Deixler’s demand. “I’m not doing what he accuses me of, so there’s nothing for me to stop doing.”

    Here’s what Deixler sent her:

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  38. Random guy Member

    Their research-fu seems to be on the back-burner.
  39. Is Karen the one who turned her baby son's care over to Scientology who raised him then "they made a disgraceful act of letting my son die without medical treatment. They are the disgrace,” ?

    Has she ever said she made a mistake in giving her son to Scientology and by her example if not encouragement contributing to other parents making the same mistake?
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  40. The Wrong Guy Member

    Ray Jeffrey fends off Scientology’s attempt to get him in hot water with the California Bar

    By Tony Ortega, The Underground Bunker, February 3, 2016

    San Antonio attorney Ray Jeffrey received word this week that a Bar complaint filed against him by the Church of Scientology in California has been dismissed.

    As part of its scorched-earth litigation approach, Scientology is known for filing endless motions to gum up a court, and for trying to get the attorneys of their opponents disqualified for trumped-up reasons. But the litigious church is also known for filing Bar complaints against attorneys. And Ray Jeffrey, who has had more success litigating against the church than anyone in recent years, turned out to be no exception.

    The reason? He advised Karen de la Carriere when she was accused by the church of aiding an infiltration of its facilities, and later of misusing her YouTube channel by infringing on the church’s copyrights. Karen, who lives in Los Angeles, has a local attorney to handle litigation, and she found another local attorney who specialized in intellectual property cases to help her defend her channel. But she also turned to Ray Jeffrey.

    Ray had made a name for himself representing former Scientology executive Debbie Cook when she was sued by the church, for representing former Scientology spies Paul Marrick and Greg Arnold when they sued Scientology after their termination, and, until recently, Jeffrey represented Monique Rathbun in her harassment lawsuit against Scientology leader David Miscavige.

    De la Carriere didn’t appreciate receiving accusatory letters from Scientology attorneys, and she asked Jeffrey to represent her in communications with the church. So Jeffrey stepped in and asked Scientology to communicate with her through him.

    Scientology’s attorney Gary Soter then filed a complaint with the California Bar, saying that Ray Jeffrey had no right, as a Texas attorney, to represent de la Carriere in a California legal matter.

    Ray’s response is a letter that we thought you’d want to see.

    There are very few attorneys in the United States who will take on the Church of Scientology. (And some who have may regret that they did.) But Ray’s record of success is impressive, and we think you’ll see why when you read his letter. As a result of it, the Bar has dismissed Soter’s complaint.

    Here’s a long excerpt from the letter, which is dated December 11. Below, we have the entire document embedded.

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