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CLAIM: ‘Frail’ looking Shelly Miscavige spotted near Scientology compound in California
By Tony Ortega, December 15, 2016
For a few days, we have been communicating with a woman we’re going to call Rachel. We know Rachel’s real name, and a lot more about her besides. Everything she’s told us about herself and her husband has checked out. But because they fear retaliation for telling us what they know (and they say that it’s already happening, more about that below), we’ve agreed not to use their real names.
Rachel and her family live less than two miles from the Church of Spiritual Technology headquarters near Twin Peaks, California — the 33-acre super-secret compound where we believe Scientology leader David Miscavige has kept his wife Shelly stashed away for the last 11 years.
The small CST headquarters is in the mountains above Los Angeles and near Lake Arrowhead, California. It’s not to be confused with Scientology’s much larger 500-acre International Base about 50 miles away and near Hemet, where David Miscavige lives and where, in 2004, he created a notorious prison for his top executives that is known as “The Hole.”
In the late summer of 2005, eyewitnesses tell us, David Miscavige blew up over some minor changes that his wife Shelly made at Int Base while he was away. A week later, she vanished. Several different lines of evidence have convinced us that at that point she was moved to the CST headquarters, and she’s been living and working there ever since. Shelly was only seen in public one time since then, in the summer of 2007 when she was allowed to go to the funeral of her father in the presence of Scientology “handlers.”
Rachel, who has lived her entire life in the area, tells us she was only vaguely aware of the odd CST parcel, and didn’t really know what it was for. “High school kids here like to drive by and flip off the cameras,” she says with a laugh.
Then, earlier this year, Rachel had to deal with a medical situation that required her to spend a lot of downtime taking medication. With time on her hands, she began watching a lot of Netflix and YouTube. And that’s how she stumbled on Leah Remini’s appearance on ABC’s 20/20 which first aired in October 2015.
Leah was promoting her book, Troublemaker, and 20/20’s Dan Harris asked her about the fateful 2006 wedding of Tom Cruise and Katie Holmes, when Leah first noticed that Shelly Miscavige was missing.
At that point in the program, ABC posted this image of Shelly:
It was one of the photos of Shelly taken around the year 1990 by Claudio and Renata Lugli, who were Scientologists and personal tailors to the Miscaviges. In the photo, Shelly is modeling an outfit they had made for her. (We met the Luglis in Italy a few years ago and brought these photos back with us.)
Rachel says she was stunned. She called over her husband, and she says at that moment, they were “90 percent sure” that they had seen the woman before, on two different occasions in the nearby town of Crestline.
The first incident happened in the first week of December, 2015. Rachel says they were at Lake Drive Hardware, just a few blocks from Lake Gregory, picking up some Christmas trees that had been donated to the place where she works. Rachel’s work involves helping people recovering from alcohol and substance abuse problems, and she says it’s that background which made her take note when a woman walked into the store.
“She was a thin, smaller women, escorted by two men,” Rachel says. “Disheveled. Almost like a drug addict, or like she was homeless.”
The woman, whom Rachel now believes was Shelly Miscavige, looked all of her 55 years, had long, stringy graying hair, and appeared “frail.”
The two men with her looked younger; Rachel estimates they were in their 30s. “They seemed to be leading her, like you would someone who was under the influence of drugs or alcohol. It was awkward.”
She apologized for not noticing more about the young men. “My attention was never on them. My attention was on her. This was what I do for a living, work with people who are in that kind of shape. And I had a thought that this woman was not supposed to be there. It was disturbing.”
Four months later, Rachel says, the same thing happened. This time, she was at Goodwin & Sons Market, a few blocks away from the hardware store, when the same woman came in, again escorted by two younger men. The woman had the same kind of appearance as the previous time, but Rachel didn’t notice if it was the same two young men.
When Rachel later saw the 20/20 special while she was convalescing, she realized that the frail looking woman was Shelly Miscavige. She then began researching more about Scientology and who Shelly was.
Then, as Leah Remini’s new A&E series began to air recently, Rachel became determined to do something about her sighting, and she reached out to us.
By then, she had already made a trip to the CST compound with her husband. They had seen the drone footage we posted of the compound in September and they wanted to find out what they could see of the place from the ground.
They took a few photos, including this one:
But as they did so, a truck emerged from behind a fence, and began following them as they made their way back to town. Since then, in the last few days, they have noticed people sitting in cars outside their home.
“Yesterday at the grocery store, some guy asked my husband for change and directions, then started asking him personal questions, about how long he had lived in the area, things like that. It was really weird,” she says.
We asked her to update us if she continues to see strange activity.
In the meantime, we called up Dylan Gill, the only former CST employee who has ever given press interviews, and whose story we first told in 2012.
Dylan told us that he’s been positive for years that Shelly Miscavige was being held at the CST headquarters. And when he worked there, he regularly was given time for buying supplies in town.
“I think it’s very possible that it was Shelly they saw, and if she had company, it’s because of who Shelly is,” he says. “I was pretty positive that she’s there, and this just confirms what we expected.”
Continued at http://tonyortega.org/2016/12/15/cl...tted-near-scientology-compound-in-california/
There is such a thing as stress-induced dementia.
She probably has sec checks all the time asking why she's trying to make COB wrong.
Every time someone asks "Where's Shelly?" is her fault, right?
There's also getting hit upside the head too many times dementia.
Post Traumatic Stress Disorder
The Terror Of Scientology's
CST “Twin Peaks”:
His Name Is 'BOB'.
His Name is COB....
DAVID COB-'BOB' MISCAVIGE!
Scientology's Twin Peaks, Ca?
This will not end Well for You COB.......
OMG I used to have nightmares about Bob!
Now i have nightmares about COB! LOL
Separated at birth?
Brought together at birth.........
The post by Tony is dated December 13, while the letter to the LAPD is dated December 12. Today is December 21. We should expect news on this front in the next day or two, and be prepared to poon Leah a reminder.
Update coming tomorrow.
Here's an update, posted in the Leah Remini: Scientology and the Aftermath thread:
LAPD needs two more weeks to respond to Leah Remini about missing wife of Scientology leader
By Tony Ortega, December 23, 2016
LAPD needs two more weeks to respond to Leah Remini about missing wife of Scientology leader
Posted by Tony Ortega on December 23, 2016
The Los Angeles Police Department has notified Leah Remini’s attorney, Douglas Mirell, that it needs an additional two weeks to fulfill Remini’s December 12 records request regarding the whereabouts of Shelly Miscavige, wife of Scientology’s leader, David Miscavige.
On December 19, a week after Leah made her request and three days before it was required to respond, the department sent a letter under Chief Charlie Beck’s name saying that it was invoking the state records law, which allows an additional two weeks for “unusual circumstances.” With that additional time, the department will “search for, collect, and review the collected records from other Department entities which are separate from the office processing the request.”
Full article - http://tonyortega.org/2016/12/23/la...ini-about-missing-wife-of-scientology-leader/
tl;dr: The dog ate their homework.
The LAPD's 2 weeks is up. I was expecting Tony to write about this yesterday or today, but he hasn't yet. Sunday seems like Rod Keller's day, so maybe Monday we can expect an update on this. Or someone can email him and ask directly.
Hmm. Still nothing. Maybe someone can Tweet Leah to ask her directly if she has heard back from LAPD yet, now that the 2 week extension has expired.
Maybe she's planning to say something during tomorrow's episode of "Aftermath".
Tony Ortega provided an update in an article published this morning. Quote:
...we have been getting a lot of questions about the LAPD missing its deadline to turn over information to Leah about the department’s handling of her 2013 missing person report about Shelly Miscavige, wife of David Miscavige, who vanished from Scientology’s Int Base in the summer of 2005 and has only been seen in public once since then, in the summer of 2007 at the funeral of her father in the presence of a Scientology handler.
It’s our understanding that the LAPD intended to turn over information to Leah yesterday, but then asked for one more day to get its paperwork together. So perhaps as soon as later today, we may have some new info from the police.
the wait is very telling.
And I can't imagine that what they do give her will satisfy anyone, unless of course the LAPD finally said "we can't do this any more " to DM.
Being that some cops are Scientologists? (was Ring his name?) I don't think it would be the latter.
LAPD to Leah Remini on her records request about missing Scientology leader’s wife: ‘Go fish’
By Tony Ortega, January 12, 2017
Despite taking extra time to come up with a response, and then blowing the deadline they set for themselves, the Los Angeles Police Department finally answered Leah Remini’s request for specific information about Shelly Miscavige yesterday by telling her they weren’t going to answer any of her questions.
The letter from the police department, which we have below, did offer to send Remini responses on two of her more general questions about LAPD policy on missing persons reports. But specific information that Leah wanted in regards to her 2013 missing person report about Shelly Miscavige and how it was resolved? She’s getting nothing.
At this point, it appears the LAPD is not going to shed any light on how it determined that Shelly Miscavige is not in any danger.
Here's the complete article, which has some interesting comments:
holy fuck! they are crazy
Took over two weeks to say GTFO to Leah?
Someone tell the LAPD that the saying "no news is good news" does not apply in this case.
Something is VERY wrong here.
I hope this gets a lot of press.
Almost 12 years ago, Shelly Miscavige vanished. Here’s why we keep asking about her.
By Tony Ortega, July 13, 2017
Almost 12 years ago now, Scientology leader David Miscavige made his wife Shelly disappear.
In late August or early September 2005, Shelly vanished from Scientology’s secretive “Int Base” near Hemet, California, a place she had helped her husband run as a hard-as-nails Scientology “Sea Org” official in her own right.
We’ve written numerous times about the events that led up to her disappearance, that Miscavige blew his stack, for example, when he found out that Shelly had filled some job openings while he spent some time away from the base in Los Angeles. Mike Rinder told us that Shelly was also concerned about whether her husband was still wearing his wedding ring. It was obvious to him, he told us, that Shelly was very concerned about the state of her marriage.
Until her disappearance, Shelly not only helped run Scientology as “C.O.B. Assistant” to her husband David, the “Chairman of the Board,” but she was also seen at annual Scientology events, and took the initiative in major operations. Just the year before, in 2004, she had spearheaded an effort to find a girlfriend for Tom Cruise, for example, and had young women auditioned for the role.
So it was extremely unusual for Shelly suddenly to be gone, even though some people didn’t notice it for a while. For Leah Remini, it was when she was at the Tom Cruise-Katie Holmes wedding in Italy more than a year later, in November 2006. It dawned on her that David Miscavige was there without his wife, and when she asked about it, she was told by Tommy Davis that she “didn’t have the fucking rank” to ask that question.
When Leah left Scientology in 2013 she was still asking that question — where is Shelly Miscavige? And she asked it of the Los Angeles Police Department, which responded to her missing-person report by visiting Shelly and getting her assurance that she was all right and didn’t want to make a public statement. When we asked LAPD Lt. Andre Dawson if his two detectives who met with Shelly did so in the presence of other church officials, he told us, “that’s classified.”
Even before Leah Remini came out of Scientology, however, we’d been writing about the strange disappearance of Shelly Miscavige, and we’ve worked hard to investigate her whereabouts through multiple, independent sources. And all of those sources point to one place, where we believe Shelly has been living and working since 2005: the Church of Spiritual Technology headquarters compound near Crestline, California.
CST is a bizarre sub-entity of Scientology whose mandate is to archive L. Ron Hubbard’s writings and lectures in underground vaults so that they can be recovered after civilization collapses. CST has vaults in three locations in California and one in New Mexico and planned to add another one in Wyoming that seems to be held up. But it’s at the headquarters compound in the mountains above Los Angeles where the actual archiving work goes on, with Hubbard’s words etched on steel plates to be stored in titanium containers filled with inert gases. For the last 12 years, Shelly Miscavige has worked on that project, as well as other Scientology products.
Recently, we posted amazing drone footage of the CST compound, and we also, last year, published a report about a possible sighting of Shelly in the town of Crestline itself, a sighting that we’re taking seriously.
According to that sighting, Shelly Miscavige may be in poor shape. The San Bernardino Sheriff’s Office refused to get involved when members of Shelly’s own (non-Scientology) family sought help getting more information about her. We similarly ran into a brick wall with the Sheriff’s Office.
But we have also said many times that it may be the case that Shelly is resigned to her fate, and wouldn’t welcome a chance to be “rescued” from the facility. At one point, she told a family member that the only way she was going to leave the place was for a funeral, apparently referring to the time in the summer of 2007 when she was allowed to attend the funeral of her father, Barney, while being watched by a Scientology “handler.”
Yes, it’s true that Shelly Miscavige is not “missing.” Her husband David Miscavige knows exactly where she is. And we’re pretty confident about where she is, too.
But it’s also true that Leah Remini, Mike Rinder, and many others are genuinely concerned about her, and are frustrated that law enforcement doesn’t seem more interested in her fate.
And that’s why Marty Rathbun’s latest accusations, in his most recent video segment posted to his website, are so dishonest and distasteful. Rathbun left Scientology in 2004, before Shelly’s disappearance, and he has no first-hand knowledge about it. Marty sounds exactly like the Church of Scientology itself, calling into question Leah Remini’s motives for seeking information about her friend Shelly, while simultaneously refusing to answer the most obvious question about her: Where is she? Why can’t Shelly explain her situation herself, if not to a reporter, then in a video to the members of the Church of Scientology? Why is her location and her work so secret that not even her own family members can see her?
These are legitimate questions, and Rathbun doesn’t attempt to address them.
The Church of Scientology can end speculation about Shelly Miscavige very easily: Let her speak for herself.
Continued at http://tonyortega.org/2017/07/13/al...-vanished-heres-why-we-keep-asking-about-her/
Doesn't Shelley have any relatives who are concerned enough about her to create enough fuss with the cops?
‘Scientology is dying’: John Brousseau on the decline of Int Base and fate of Shelly Miscavige
By Tony Ortega, November 7, 2017
Multiple lines of evidence convince us that Shelly has been at the CST Headquarters compound for the past 12 years. She was only let out for a single day in the summer of 2007 in order to attend her father’s funeral, and was accompanied by a Scientology “handler.” Since then, Shelly hasn’t been seen at any Scientology events or anywhere else in public. However, we reported that a woman who lives in nearby Crestline believes that she may have seen Shelly in town a couple of times looking “frail,” and we’re taking her report seriously.
So given all that, we asked JB, is Shelly a prisoner?
“Yes. From an external point of view, and from Dave’s point of view, yes. There are all manner of things in place to make sure she doesn’t leave. All kinds of cameras, and security guards who know her whereabouts at every moment. She’s probably been given a dog, because who’s going to leave if they can’t take their dogs with them? Miscavige did that with Annie Tidman,” he says, referring to one of the last people who saw L. Ron Hubbard alive.
“But in Shelly’s mind, she’s not a prisoner. She’s there on her own volition,” he adds. And that explains why she may not have attempted to escape or call for help.
In January, we reported that some non-Scientology relatives of Shelly tried to get the San Bernardino Sheriff’s Office interested in checking on Shelly’s welfare, but they didn’t get anywhere. Similarly, we got a formulaic response when we made our own inquiry.
“I remember Shelly when she was 19. She was kind of a sweet girl. Then she latched on with Miscavige, and then she had no choice but to emulate the guy. It’s do that or be destroyed,” Brousseau says.
More at https://tonyortega.org/2017/11/11/s...ine-of-int-base-and-fate-of-shelly-miscavige/
I think John Brousseau is correct on the former statement about Shelly's state of mind, but not the latter. Shelly could have avoided David Miscavige, broke off her relationship with him shortly after it began, or a number of other scenarios. This is an example of a situated identity. She plays a role that fits in with her belief system.
The dog is a companion without human rights, also known as a pet, which is what Shelly is now in the mind of Davey and her scienazi handlers.
Tonight, ‘Vanity Fair Confidential’ brings the Shelly Miscavige story to the ID network
By Tony Ortega, March 12, 2018
Four years ago, Vanity Fair magazine wrote about the strange disappearance of Shelly Miscavige, wife to Scientology leader David Miscavige, a story we’ve also been covering closely since 2012.
Tonight, Vanity Fair Confidential is bringing that story to television on the ID network at 8 pm eastern, and we’ll be watching here in the Bunker with our great commenters. (We’ll also be keeping an eye on Scientology’s TV network, which is scheduled to spring to life at exactly the same time. We’ll be busy!)
In anticipation of the show, the ID network has been re-running some of its previous one-hour specials on Scientology featuring Nancy Many (2013), Elli Perkins (2014), and Marty Rathbun (2015).
It’s pretty incredible to think that David Miscavige has gotten away with banishing his wife to a small mountain compound above Los Angeles for almost 13 years, and that she’s been unable to leave it even to see her own family.
Last year, on Leah Remini’s show, John Brousseau, who once worked closely with Miscavige and Shelly, told Leah that Shelly would never appear in public again: “He’ll do everything he can to keep her wherever she is until she dies.”
More at https://tonyortega.org/2018/03/12/t...the-shelly-miscavige-story-to-the-id-network/
Vanity Fair Confidential season 4 episode 6
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