Leah Remini TV series about how Scientology rips families apart

Discussion in 'Celebrity News' started by The Wrong Guy, Jun 27, 2016.

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  1. I am very happy to say I was wrong.

    From Tony Ortega:

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    ‘Leah Remini’ finale, and other news

    A&E keeps changing its mind about the huge hit it has on its hands. Leah Remini: Scientology and the Aftermath premiered as the strongest opening of a series in two years. Tempering that excitement was the fact that only eight episodes had been planned.

    But A&E quickly put together a special additional episode, sponsored by Reddit, that had Leah answering questions from Redditors. The special episode also featured Paulette Cooper, Chris Shelton, Karen de la Carriere, and Jeffrey Augustine.

    Next week’s episode, featuring Lois Reisdorf and her son Brandon, as well as some upstart journalists (titled “Enemies of the Church”), is the seventh of the original lineup, and the eighth overall. A&E has chosen to refer to it as the “season finale.”

    But we’re told that another special episode featuring questions from Reddit will air on January 17. And the original eighth episode of the series, focused on Leah Remini herself, will air the last week of January.

    Got all that? Original episode seven (“Enemies of the Church”) on Tuesday January 10, Special episode nine on Tuesday January 17, and original episode eight (focused on Leah) later in the month.

    That’s what we know for now.

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  2. The Wrong Guy Member

    There's a post about tonight's episode of 20/20 in another thread:

    Scientology’s disgusting secret: Young teens used to interrogate adults about their sex lives

    By Tony Ortega, January 6, 2017


    Serge Gil first reached out to us more than a year ago. It’s taken a lot of time for his story to get to a large audience, but tonight he’s going to be featured on an episode of ABC’s 20/20 that we were also interviewed for.

    Gil’s story is wide ranging and very troubling, and we don’t know how deeply 20/20 is going to get into it. But we wanted to provide some basic background on what he went through in order to supplement ABC’s show. And we’ve had help by talking to Claire Headley, Aaron Smith-Levin, Mike Rinder, and Jefferson Hawkins.
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  3. Xenu Says: Reading Inspired by Scientology and the Aftermath

    The list by Elizabeth Allen (Twitter: @BWRBooks) includes books, with an explanation for each, by Leah Remini, Lawrence Wright, Jenna Miscavige Hill, Ron Miscavige, Tony Ortega, Chris Shelton, Janet Reitman, Amy Scobee, Jefferson Hawkins, Russell Miller, and L. Ron Hubbard (Dianetics, "I include this title simply because… know thy enemy.").

    Book Riot: Xenu Says: Reading Inspired by Scientology and the Aftermath

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  4. The Wrong Guy Member

    Scientology lawyer goes on national TV to slam Leah Remini for show on A&E that led to death threats against their leader David Miscavige
    • Leah Remini said in an interview that is set to air on 20/20 Friday that she hopes to have Scientology's tax exempt status taken away by the IRS
    • She also said that she wants someone from the Church to admit that the allegations of abuse being made by former members are true
    • Remini has been highlighting the stories of former Scientologists on her show 'Scientology and the Aftermath'
    • 'Frankly the Church would just like her to get on with her life and find something else to do,' said a lawyer for Scientology
    • The Church also claims that Remini's show has been inciting violence and led to death threats against leader David Miscavige
    • Remini is hoping to renew the show for a second season

    'Leah Remini seems to be making a career out of attacking Scientology, and frankly the Church would just like her to get on with her life and find something else to do,' said Monique E. Yingling, a lawyer for Scientolgy, in a rare interview.

    'When people espouse these kinds of lies about an organization like the Church of Scientology is stirs up a lot of religious hatred and bigotry and that results in people believing they somehow have to act it out,' said Yingling, in an interview that will air on ABC's 20/20 Friday night.

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  5. From 2010:
    At the 4:50 mark long-time Scientology Cult Shill Attorney Monique 'Shifty-Eyes' Yingling with former Scientology spokesliar Tommy Davis denying the Fact that Scientology has a Disconnection Policy. Very angry Scientologists attacking their victims with laughable lies is a bad strategy but as LRH Policy dictates: Attack, Always Attack: Never Defend!
    She's back on 20/20 tonight:

    With all that's come out before this piece and since, the evidence of Disconnection is overwhelming and the total numbers of all-out attacks on any ex-Scientologist who dares to speak up in their own defense is in the thousands.

    Monique Yingling is not a Scientologist, she represents and spews their lies and spits on their victims for cash and has been well paid for it for a long, long time.

    The fact is any Scientologist can not 'choose' freely to not disconnect with any declared family member because they will face severe punishments within the 'Church' if they choose to stay in touch, they will be guilty of punishable Scientology 'Crimes'. There are many, many Scientologists who haven't spoken to their own family members for decades because of this brutal LRH Disconnection Policy.
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  6. Well, you have to say that Leah's causing them some trouble, when Monique Yingling crawls out of the woodwork to go on telly with a statement devoid of anything of a factual nature but the frankly disingenuous remark that the CoS would rather she (Leah) did something else.

    Frankly, my dear, I doubt whether Leah, or anyone else for that matter, gives a damn what the CoS would rather Leah does.
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  8. Eating cake while watching 20/20. Haven't commented since 2013, but read everything from 2007 up until 2013. Too far from active orgs to do much except sympathize, but Leah's series is huge. Interesting to learn how the St. Petersburg Times series acted as a catalyst for some to wake up.
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  9. I am thankful for Leah's A&E series, but I'm most grateful that Wrathbunny was not involved in any form. His involvement with any documentary or journalistic work brings so much baggage, credibility problems and taint which makes the entire work in question.

    While I'm happy to finally see a human side of Rinder (and hear him admit things), my eyes go into an automatic instinctive eye roll when he talks about trying to right his wrongs. I wish someone would bring up the Gerry Armstrong issue to his face and ask him for a detailed explanation on why he refuses to help him.

    Yes, Gerry is sort of a nutter, but he suffered the most due to Rinder's evil and illegal harassment. Anyone would be lucky to only be a nutter if they had to live through what Armstrong lived through. You can't dismiss the evil you perpetrated on others just because you don't like their personality. Besides, we wouldn't have most of the truth about LRH without Armstrong, but no one really acknowledges that fact.

    But the series would not be as polished with Wrathcrazybun's involvement. We should all be thankful for that.
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  13. RightOn Member

    Yingling =Yuckling
    Shiny, bad make up, blinking bloated tick = ICK
    I love how she said that those questions may be appropriate for a 14 year old child, "depends on the 14 year old" :confused:
    BWA HA HA!!!
    What a freaking piece of work.
    Thank you COS! She came off as idiotic, delusional liar. Nice move!
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  14. She has a terrible gargle snaggle toothed mouth. And the blinkity blinky blink where she never meets the interviewers eyes are obvious signs of lying.
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  15. ABC 2020 video is up on YouTube.

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  16. If Scientology Auditing is privileged and confidential, then why does Monique Yingling state on national TV she was told what Sege Gil was asked during his Johannesburg Confessional auditing sessions?

    HT - darb on Tony Orgega's blog:

    At 27:40 in the 20/20 interview Monique Yingling states she was told what Sege Gil was asked (or more precisely, not asked) during his Johannesburg Confessional auditing sessions.

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  17. That's not lying.
    TR-L is a religious sacrament.
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  18. The Wrong Guy Member

    ABC 20/20 | Mike Rinder

    Some somewhat random observations about the 20/20 show last night.


    First, I am sure that scientology and David Miscavige HATED the show. They hate anything that is not presenting total puff PR for scientology. If it is not just glamour shots of scientology buildings, glowing statements by glazed-eyed “winning” scientologists or images of Miscavige yanking ribbons on new empty buildings, then it is “suppressive propaganda spread by merchants of chaos.”

    Miscavige does have reason to be upset. This show exposed a lot of the bad aspects of scientology to a larger audience than the A&E Show. For that, ABC 20/20 deserves kudos.

    They also deserve a pat on the back for devoting an hour to this program. CBS and NBC have not done so.

    That being said — this show left a LOT to be desired.

    It was a disjointed hash of random pieces of information. Clearly they had put a show together and at the last minute, scientology insisted that they interview Muffins Yingling. And, because NOBODY gets to interview “scientology” spokespeople these days, they took this as a “we cannot pass up” opportunity. So they shoe-horned her stuff in. It was both a good and a bad move.

    The single most noteworthy thing about the whole show (not just to me, see Twitter and the comments on the 20/20 site) was how bad Muffins was. She looked terrible. Her answers were evasive and inconsistent. And she looked like she was in one of those movies where people try to blink out morse code messages when they are being forced to do a video to prove they are alive for a kidnapping extortion plot. Ms. Yingling is NOT a scientologist. Despite working for Miscavige for 25+ years, she has never had any auditing and never done a scientology course (she is a failed dissemination cycle). She knows nothing about auditing, sec checking, TR’s or anything else — just what she has “been told.” And that alone is a serious indictment of scientology, the masters of communication and the shatterers of suppression have not a single scientologist who can go on TV to represent them.


    When it comes right down to it, the final question Leah asked Dan Harris was the most telling of all. When asked what he thought about scientology losing its tax exempt status he proclaimed it was not his job to have such an opinion. Leah summed up what everyone watching it felt “Dan, you’re an asshole.”

    Just imagine Dan Harris and his team doing a show about defectors from North Korea. Would they fill half the show with phony footage of the worker’s paradise provided by the N. Korean propaganda ministry? Would they give credence to the North Korean spokesperson who came on the show claiming the defectors were all just doing it for money as “professional anti-North Koreans”? It would be absurd. And Dan Harris would not be “neutral” about whether N. Korea should be prevented from violating human rights.

    Of course, 20/20 could argue that Scientology is not N. Korea. That would be true. But it is perhaps even MORE outrageous and newsworthy that these abuses are happening right here in the United States! 20/20 have been “investigating” scientology for YEARS. They know the people they have interviewed (a LOT more than those you saw on the show) have told them the truth. They KNOW and yet they don’t have the courage to do real investigative journalism. They try to be “objective” and “balanced,” but that sort of “neutrality” is NOT compatible with true investigative journalism, which at its core is someone with the courage to uncover and expose what others have been unwilling or unable to reveal to the world. Sure, give those whose dirty laundry is being exposed a chance to respond, but don’t give them a free pass to present their propaganda without challenging THEM on what they have discovered.

    Dan Harris is no Mike Wallace. But he could be. He has more material than Mike Wallace ever had. He is just lacking one thing. Mike Wallace’s balls.

    Here's the full article:
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  19. I am exceedingly curious to know whether viewer share ratings for this series have been higher in particular regions of the country - specifically, the Tampa/St. Pete area, and in parts of Southern California.
  20. "TV Ratings: ‘Grimm’ Premieres Steady, ‘Sleepy Hollow’ Returns Down"

    Oriana Schwindt
    January 7, 2017

    Night-winner ABC had a strong return from hiatus for “Last Man Standing,” with a 1.5 in the demo and 7.71 million viewers. “Dr. Ken” also returned up from its last outing, with a 1.1 and 5.53 million viewers. “Shark Tank” was up as well, with a 1.4 and 5.88 million viewers, and a Scientology-focused “20/20” also spiked 75% above its last new installment with a 1.4 in the demo and 6.37 million viewers.
  21. Quentinanon Member

    Not necessarily lying, but definitely indications of anxiety which could stem from fear of detection of her deception.
  22. Quentinanon Member

    OSA attack bots said:
    "a conspiracy led by a handful of people who spread lies for fame and money".

    Precise description of L. Ron and Mary Sue Hubbard and their successors.
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  23. RightOn Member

    excellent point!
    Run with it!
    "Scientology Lawyer Discusses Contents of Confidential Auditing Session on National TV"
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  24. I have just managed to catch up on all the A&E episodes. Tuesday- with Arron and Collin's story - I was struck when they talked about Collin getting 100% score on the auditing at 14, reminded me didn't little davey get to be an auditor at 14? Then I watched 20/20 with Serge training to be an auditor.

    So both these young kids did really well and then suddenly their results weren't up to scratch and they had to redo training and ended up in the basically davey is looking out to make sure that nobody who is "brilliant" gets anywhere in scientology. The psycho doesn't want to be threatened by smart kids moving up the ranks?
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  25. Quentinanon Member

    Davey wasn't such a good auditor at Saint Hill. One day while he was auditing a female scientologist, he flew into a rage and beat her up.
    Needless to say, at the end of session, her needle did not float and she had "very bad indicators".
    Because of his age, the public MAA did not declare him an SP. He did a lower condition and "that handled it". Right. Scientology really works.
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  26. PODCAST: Chris C [@MiamiSixthMan] of Come Get Sum [@CGSHere] interviews Berty Leahy, who revealed the Squirrel Buster, plus more

    [Placing this here because Chris's series of interviews are a follow-up to Leah Remini: Scientology and the Aftermath, plus his other podcasts are in this thread.]

    Audio available here.

    * * * * * BEGIN INTRODUCTION * * * * *

    Bert shares his story from start to finish where it pertains to the "Church" of Scientology. From Dave Lebow's misleading recruitment to Bert's great dislike for Narcanon (A Drug rehab program that involves Scientology methods from the mind of L Ron Hubbard).
    Also, Tony Ortega this past week released an audio link from an attendee at the Scientology Year End Gala. I have my hands on additional audio as well. I will caution, this seems like a fake audio clip and may not be real at all. I'll let you decide!! Along with the audio clip I'll address Scientologist's use of the term "You are my enemy" What it means to me and the message it sends as it relates to the idea "Only a Scientologist can help" Disconnections aside, i think you'll find these things in their opposing intent are more connected than you think!
    Follow Bert on Twitter: @bertleahy
    Visit Bert's Youtube Channel:

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  27. [01/07/17 - 08:46 AM]
    ABC Wins Friday with Season Highs Across the Board
    ABC spins the numbers for Friday, January 6.

    [via press release from ABC]

    ABC Wins Friday with Season Highs Across the Board

    ABC Friday Prime (8-11pm - 6.3 million and 1.4/5 in AD18-49): With its Friday lineup returning to all-originals for the first time in 1 month (since 12/9/16), ABC won the night in Adults 18-49 (1.4/5), beating CBS by 8% (1.3/5) and NBC with the debut of Emerald City on the night by 40% (1.0/4). ABC delivered the Top 3 TV shows of the night in Adults 18-49 with Last Man Standing at #1 (1.5/5), while Shark Tank and 20/20 tied at #2 (1.4/5). As all 4 of its series on the night surged to their best numbers this season, the Net earned new Friday season highs in viewers and young adults
    At 10pm, ABC's 20/20 shot up week to week in Total Viewers (+52% - 6.4 million vs. 5.1 million), Adults 18-49 (+75% - 1.4/5 vs. 0.8/3) and Adults 25-54 (+82% - 2.0/6 vs. 1.1/3). In fact the ABC newsmagazine equaled a season high with Total Viewers, while jumping to its highest ratings in nearly 11 months with Adults 18-49 and Adults 25-54 - since 2/12/16. 20/20 reported on former members of the Church of Scientology, including those who are crusading against it and others who still practice outside the Church
  28. Upon reflection, this math is wrong - I just copied and pasted the quote. It's closer to +25% - probably a transposition error.
  29. The Wrong Guy Member

    On the ABC 20/20 Facebook page, more than 2,000 comments have been made about the show. If any are in support of the cult, I didn't see them.
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  30. Independent Scientology in many forms keeps rearing its ugly head into the efforts to free all of the victims of L. Ron Hubbard's brutally abusive scam. Various Indies try to suck in the very vulnerable recent ex-Scientologists into their for- personal profit versions of Hubbard's abusive Scam for their own benefit. It's sickening!

    Scientology is and always has been a criminal organization that sells the lies of its founder and convicted fraud, L. Ron Hubbard. Hubbard's fake Modern Science of Mental Health (Dianetics) was changed to a fake Religion using the LRH Religious cloaking policy for medical malpractice protection and tax evasion.

    L. Ron Hubbard and 2 of his 17, yes 17 falsely claimed Medals of Honor in WWII
    What a despicable Stolen Valor Fraud! LRH falsely claimed he was blinded and crippled in the war and that he cured himself miraculously using his newly 'researched' discoveries in Dianetics to do so. He suffered no such debilitating injuries.

    Hubbard promised that his uncertified 'research' of Dianetics would produce a being he called a Clear. This being was promised perfect vision, perfect memory and freedom from the vast majority of human illnesses by LRH. (All Lies)

    Simply following Hubbard's 'Tech' after becoming fully indoctrinated through endless hours of auditing and other processing leads to the abuse of others in order to comply with his brutal, controlling policies. Per LRH, his abusive policies and hypnotic processing (Scientology 'Scriptures') can never be changed.

    Scientology in any form Corporate or Independent is fraud that requires strict adherence to LRH abusive processing and policies.

    Selling and promoting Independent Scientology is criminal, dangerous and controlling. It's a scam that continues the indoctrination of a very dangerous mindset. Those selling it should stop or be prosecuted for fraud.

    Leah Remini's documentary on Scientology abuses has been absolutely fantastic and incredibly helpful in exposing the abuses of this cult. Mike Rinder has done some great work with her so far. The impact for trapped victims of Scientology has been immense. Many thanks to Leah, Mike and all who've contributed to exposing the horrible abuses of L. Ron Hubbard's Cult of Scientology.

    I hope that Mike Rinder (a long time perpetrator and also a victim of LRH abuses) has turned a corner in his own recovery. I notice that he's removed many dangerous links to Independent Scientology, Friends of LRH, etc from his website. He seems to be showing some real empathy now for exes and I hope that includes many that he ordered to be Fair-Gamed when he was in charge of OSA. for many years.

    My biggest fear is that Independent Scientology will try to feed off of the success of Leah's show to promote their own versions of Hubbard's scam - one that overlooks his personal abusive behavior, which has been atrocious and responsible for the condition of the Scientology victims.

    David Miscavige is merely a worst case product of LRH 'Tech'. It wasn't DM -
    ''It was Barzini all along!"..........''It was L. Ron Hubbard all along!''

    'Don't be fooled by 'Independent' Hubbard loving Scientologists who simply want to continue Hubbard's scam at the expense of recent exes who have been victimized long enough!'

    The very last thing a new ex-Scientologist needs is more of the LRH processing that has kept them captive and indoctrinated for decades.

    Google: L. Ron Hubbard: Abuse of Children by Policy in Scientology
    Google: L. Ron Hubbard: Biography of Lies
    Google: L. Ron Hubbard: Fraud
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  31. Not so!

    Naval records show that during his time in Australia he was afflicted by hemorrhoids and urethral discharge (acquired from a seductive Japanese spy) which was later compounded with deadly pink-eye, and the stress of defending Islas Coranados from Japanese invasion gave him an ulcer.

    While recuperating from these devastating injuries, he hung out in the Naval Hospital library and played "Doctor" with unsuspecting visitors- which gave him the insight he needed to develop Dianetics.
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  32. Lol, Let's not let the facts of hemorrhoids and pink-eye cloud Hubbard's heroic war stories that he had to cure himself of blindness and crippling injuries suffered in WWII cloud our judgment of the LRH version.

    No one to help this poor blind man who could not even walk after the war. Amazingly, L. Ron Hubbard cured himself of blindness and with being a hopeless cripple using his own magical discoveries. Sadly, there is absolutely no medical evidence of any such truly catastrophic injuries.

    Don't let this destroy your faith in the veracity of L. Ron Hubbard's miraculous claims about the benefits of his 'scientific' research on the human mind.
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  34. AnonLover Member

    After the ABC 20/20 special aired, Michael Shermer of Skeptic Magazine had some positive things to say on Twitter. Then he took it upon himself to preach at Leah on what her show is lacking (more Xenu) and used his own article from Scientific American to backup why retreading South Park for the umpteenth million time was essential content (cuz it's the cult's Genesis or Origin story and stops recruitment.)

    Come Sunday morning, Tony Ortega took it upon himself to call out Shermer on the fact that Xenu really isn't the equivalent of a Genesis story in the sense it defines the creation of the universe. Shermer rose to the challenge, and next thing you know Ortega is preaching at Shermer in the same way he preached at Leah.

    I found this amusing as hell, but I'm squarely in the Fuck Xenu camp and YMMV. FWIW, my position is Scientology's public image has grown so toxic in the past decade the only people they have any hope of recruiting in mainstream America and every other first world country are the mentally challenged who buy into the psych alternative theory or are proactively seeking a thrill ride in the wild world of weirdness. So recruiting the general public is significantly less important than convincing disgruntled, lapsed or under the radar members to cut and run.

    Anywho, seeing two atheists preaching about what the Genesis story of Scientology really is and why it matters amused the hell out me. I had to (gently) roast that shi- not just for the lulz, but also because Leah's show is great BUT... is becoming a thing on FB. I'm getting sick and tired of arm chair producers with absolutely no television experience, spouting off their own self-defined sageness on what Remini should do without stating what she remove from the show in order to do something else and why their two cents worth is more important than the issue being presented.

    The end result...

    #ScientologyTheAftermath: When Atheists Begin to Preach
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  35. RightOn Member

    ^ "FWIW, my position is Scientology's public image has grown so toxic in the past decade the only people they have any hope of recruiting in mainstream America and every other first world country are the mentally challenged who buy into the psych alternative theory or are proactively seeking a thrill ride in the wild world of weirdness"

    And also Demi Moore according to the National Enquirer :p
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