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Leah Remini TV series about how Scientology rips families apart

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  1. TrevAnon Member

    Oops.^

    Sorry.
  2. Quentinanon Member

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  3. RightOn Member

    Has there been any fall out in the NOI due to this series?
    They have been AWFUL quiet?
    What is Louie's take on all this?
    Anyone know?
  4. RightOn Member

    Also, I wonder if this series is going to touch on elder abuse within the COS?
    Something often forgotten. :(
    The improper care of the elderly and off loading should be mentioned? Do any ex's have accounts of this? Witnessed it?
    I often think of the elderly person that was bent over and seen walking in more than one of the protester's videos and wondered what became of that person?

    I was under the impression if elderly could not make it to course or post or whatever, than they were driven somewhere and given a little money and offloaded? Left to fend for themselves?
    Out of all the elderly COS members, there are members who eventually develop dementia or alzheimer disease, (even though of course it is not recognized by the COS or called something else)
    Where are these people now? This should be asked about publicly? I think it is very important.
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  5. What do you get when you mix Scientology with Nation of Islam?
    Brainless Thuggery!

    There was a certain Sparrow I knew who served up a Nice Big Hot Steaming Cup of STFU to the NOI...................... 8cb29d4bbde96f0a84eca857b77b2d30.jpg

    Just For You, NOI Scientologists
    Louis Farrakhan and L. Ron Hubbard's Henchman, David Miscavige (A Dangerous Mix that will not end well.)
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  6. Hey BFG and Claire!

    Great episode tonight! I missed about half of it but I set my DVR to get the replay that comes on later tonight and I will make sure to finish up tomorrow morning.

    I hope you'll do us the honor of logging in and giving us a post or two for the occasion. It's been too long since we've seen you in these parts.
  7. Tonight on ‘Leah Remini’: Marc & Claire Headley on forced abortions and Sea Org escapesIn the second half of tonight’s episode, you’ll get a good sense of how Marc and his wife Claire Headley made their escapes from Scientology’s “Gold Base” near Hemet, California in January 2005, but for the full craziness of their lives at the base and how they managed to get away, you really should get a copy of Marc’s book. It’s the most fun to read of all the books that came out in a small wave by former Scientologists around that time, and part of that is because Marc is such a great storyteller.

    But Claire really steals the spotlight when she brings up a subject Leah has been angling toward through the first half of her eight-episode special series: Forced abortions in the Sea Org. Now, Claire brings that subject into the open in a way that should shock viewers and crank up the outrage among an audience that, judging by their reactions on social media, has already been besides themselves with rage.

    <snip>
    Please join us in the comments section as the show airs tonight on A&E, and let’s live blog this thing like crazy.


    More here - http://tonyortega.org/2016/12/27/to...dley-on-forced-abortions-and-sea-org-escapes/

    There's a special 2nd edition of the Underground Bunker today, December 27, 2016 for Leah's show. The users there live-blogged and there are lots of comments from Marc Headley and others; it looks like Tony and Marc were also live-Tweeting.
  8. The Wrong Guy Member

    'Scientology': Leah Remini Hears Former Member's Abortion Claim | Us Weekly

    By Cait Raft

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    There certainly has been no shortage of emotional stories on Scientology and the Aftermath, and the Tuesday, December 27, episode was no exception. This installment of the A&E docuseries followed Leah Remini, along with cohost and former Scientology member Mike Rinder, as they traveled to Denver, Colorado, to meet with former Sea Organization members Marc and Claire Henley [Headley].

    Scientology Exaggerates Its Statistics, According to Marc

    Mike immediately introduced Marc as someone who was “intimately involved and oversaw all aspects of Scientology’s propaganda machine.” Marc described his role, saying, "It was my job…to make it look like Scientology was expanding." Leah then said that at the quarterly events, Scientology would display statistics to its followers about its charitable ventures.

    Leah told the camera, “I recently just found out that these statistics are not true.” Of the figures given at these events, Marc claimed, “It morphs into something more than what it is.… The events are not a documentary. They are a commercial."

    Taking a Closer Look

    Mike said, “Literally nobody has ever talked about this before.… If Scientologists…saw this, this would have a greater impact on them than anything else they would see.” After showing clips from these events centered on Scientology’s impact in curing drug addiction, helping education and other charitable ventures, Marc said that if these events were fact-checked, they would be “obliterated.”

    Marc Claims Scientology Is Expanding the Property It Owns, Not Its Membership

    Marc, Leah and Mike then found themselves on the topic of Scientology’s boast on the church's website that it is the “fastest-growing religion.” Marc quickly explained that the statement is actually referring to their square footage. He said, “There’s no more people.… Their buildings have expanded into more plots of land.” He then claimed that most of these buildings, which Scientology allegedly builds to help maintain its non-profit status, are “ghost towns.… They were not even being used.”

    Leah Was Allegedly Being Followed While Filming This Episode

    While at her hotel, Leah quickly discovered two men carrying identical folders were filming her on their phones. After the hotel escorted them off the property, Leah snapped a photo of their license plate as Mike cornered one of them to ask if he was a private investigator. Leah later said to the camera, “One man, turns out he owns his own private-investigator company.”

    Claire’s Story

    After arriving at Marc and Claire’s home, Claire described her Scientology journey. She said she joined the religion at the age of 16 and was soon transferred to work for Sea Org at their base in Hemet, California. Of the facility, Claire explained, “It’s a heavily guarded property, and a lot of secrecy and a lot of control.… You’re not allowed to make phone calls without permission or someone listening.… People would escape frequently.”

    Claire Claims She Was Forced to Get an Abortion

    Claire recounted how she met Marc, and that they married when she was 17, and he was 19. She then said, “If a woman got pregnant, she would instantly be scheduled to get an abortion.” Claire explained that this was because being pregnant while a member of the Sea Organization meant you wanted to leave. Claire revealed she knew people who had “up to six” abortions.

    When Claire recounted missing her period and allegedly being forced into an abortion, she began to cry. She told her story by saying, “Inside, I’m dying. It’s like, worst fear come true.” Through her tears, she said, “I have three beautiful children who are my life, but it doesn’t make it any easier to deal with it.” Claire’s children with Marc were all born after the couple left the church in 2005.

    Marc Says He Was Physically Assaulted by David Miscavige

    Marc then opened up about an alleged breaking point that he said eventually led to him leaving the church. Marc explained about an alleged moment between himself and church leader David Miscavige, "I made a snide comment.… He went off. He just started punching me and slugging me and pushed me up to a desk unit.… The pope of Scientology just beat the shit out of me.”

    Marc and Claire Lost Their Lawsuits Against Scientology

    Marc discussed the couple's 2005 exit from the church and revealed, “We have three children now, all boys.” When Leah asked if they’ve told the authorities about the alleged abuses, Claire responded with a nod, saying, “In depth.” Claire and Marc have lost the individual lawsuits they filed against the church but say that they continue to spread the word about what they refer to as "forced abortions."

    The Church of Scientology has issued the following statement about the show: "Leah Remini is doing this show for the money, just as she profited from her book. In addition, she attempted to extort the Church by first demanding $500,000, followed by an additional $1 million, because the Church invoked its First Amendment right to respond to her false claims with the truth. This shows the extent Leah Remini is willing to go to in order to distort the truth about Scientology. For the Church’s perspective and the truth about the bullies she now supports, go to [cult link removed]."

    Source: http://www.usmagazine.com/entertain...i-hears-former-members-abortion-claim-w457368

    'Leah Remini: Scientology’ alleges abortions ‘expected’ for Sea Org members | USA TODAY

    http://www.usatoday.com/story/life/...-the-aftermath-episode-5-golden-era/95872814/
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  9. RightOn Member

    So is starting a political Republican/Dem fight in the comment section the new strategy for trolls ( or OSA OSA OSA)?
    I keep seeing this.
    And the old standard of bringing up other religions and saying they are all nuts.
    Don't see too may COS defenders.
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  10. The Wrong Guy Member

    5 Things We Learned From 'Scientology and the Aftermath,' Episode 5

    From a couple's decision to "blow" to the show's production allegedly being surveilled, our takeaways from last night's episode

    By Amelia McDonell-Parry, Rolling Stone

    Headings:

    1. "Whoever controls the public relations, controls the world."

    2. There's pressures for couple to marry – which doesn't guarantee they'll see each other

    3. Former Sea Org members have alleged that they were forced to abort pregnancies

    4. There is a "blow drill" for Sea Org members who fly the coop

    5. Remini claims to have been watched closely during production of Scientology and the Aftermath

    Full article: http://www.rollingstone.com/tv/news/5-things-we-learned-from-scientology-the-aftermath-ep-5-w457995
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  11. The Wrong Guy Member

    Scientology Calls A&E 'Hypocrites' for Cancelling 'KKK' Show But Paying Leah Remini for Trash Talk | TMZ

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    The Church of Scientology has gone on the attack against A&E, alleging a glaring double standard by cancelling "Generation KKK" but touting its Leah Remini anti-Scientology program.

    TMZ obtained a letter Scientology's lawyer fired off to A&E, in which it scoffs at the network's decision to pull the plug on the 'KKK' show because producers paid some of the Klan members money. A&E said it was a direct violation of its policies to pay the subjects of a documentary.

    The Scientology lawyer counters in the letter, "Church of Scientology understands that two on-air accusers/participants in Leah Remini's docuseries, "Leah Remini: Scientology and the Aftermath" received substantial cash payments for their participation, in violation of the same standards."

    The letter goes on to essentially accuse A&E of becoming partners in Remini's show, giving them "free advertising and promotion for anti-Scientology books they have published."

    And the lawyer says, "It is hypocritical for A&E to proclaim its intent to 'expose and combat racism and hatred in all its forms' in cancelling the KKK show and at the same time promote Leah Remini's program which promotes hatred that A&E claims that it wants to stop."

    An official at A&E tells us there's a difference in the 2 shows because Remini is an executive producer on her show and she's "not the member of a hate group."

    We reached out to Remini's rep but so far, no word back.

    Source and comments: https://www.tmz.com/2016/12/28/scientology-a-and-e-kkk-show-leah-remini/
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  13. Quentinanon Member

    "An official at A&E tells us there's a difference in the 2 shows because Remini is an executive producer on her show and she's "not the member of a hate group."

    That's true. After Leah Remini left the scientology organization, she was no longer a member of a hate group.
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  14. http://tmz.vo.llnwd.net/o28/newsdesk/tmz_documents/Letter to Nancy Dubuc_Redacted.pdf


  15. The unholy alliance of David Miscavige of Scientology and Louis Farrakhan and the NOI seems to be going off the rails. Perhaps David Miscavige is lobbying A & E and now pursuing David Dukes and the KKK which would be more in line with the current 'Ecclesiastical Leader' David Miscavige and Founder L. Ron Hubbard's Racist nature.
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  16. Could Harvey Levin and TMZ possibly shill more for Scientology? Could they possibly be more in the tank for Scientology?

    Episode 5 of Leah Remini's Docuseries Scientology and the Aftermath has now aired. This episode focused on allegations of forced abortions among Scientology Sea Org staff. As result, all of the resulting headlines or news stories have focused on that important and significant allegation.

    Except one place.

    A Google search of TMZ.com for the terms Scientology, abortion and remini for the past week reveals - nothing:

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    Instead Harvey Levin's and TMZ's only story after Episode 5 is:

    Scientology: A&E 'Hypocrites' for Yanking 'KKK' Show But Paying Leah Remini for Trash Talk

    https://www.tmz.com/2016/12/28/scientology-a-and-e-kkk-show-leah-remini/

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    The Church of Scientology has gone on the attack against A&amp;E, alleging a glaring double standard by cancelling &quot;Generation KKK&quot; but touting its Leah Remini anti-Scientology program.

    TMZ obtained a letter Scientology's lawyer fired off to A&E, in which it scoffs at the network's decision to pull the plug on the 'KKK' show because producers paid some of the Klan members money. A&amp;E said it was a direct violation of its policies to pay the subjects of a documentary.

    The Scientology lawyer counters in the letter, &quot;Church of Scientology understands that two on-air accusers/participants in Leah Remini's docuseries, "Leah Remini: Scientology and the Aftermath" received substantial cash payments for their participation, in violation of the same standards.

    The letter goes on to essentially accuse A&E of becoming partners in Remini's show, giving them "free advertising and promotion for anti-Scientology books they have published."

    And the lawyer says, "It is hypocritical for A&E to proclaim its intent to 'expose and combat racism and hatred in all its forms' in cancelling the KKK show and at the same time promote Leah Remini's program which promotes hatred that A&E claims that it wants to stop."

    An official at A&E tells us there's a difference in the 2 shows because Remini is an executive producer on her show and she's "not the member of a hate group."

    We reached out to Remini's rep but so far, no word back.

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    Obviously, TMZ was able to obtain Scientology's complaint letter only through a feat of awe-inspiring investigative reporting.

    Oh, wait, Harvey Levin and TMZ essentially ran a Church of Scientology press release. Journalism.

    To my memory, TMZ always avoids negative coverage of the Church of Scientology.

    Why?

    Look, it is not like Harvey Levin and his TMZ minions are, you know, journalists. It is not they have ever heard of, much less follow, the maxim that the role of the journalist "is to comfort the afflicted and afflict the comfortable."

    But seriously, Harvey Levin and TMZ, could you possibly shill more for the Church of Scientology?

    Could you possibly be more in the pocket of the Church of Scientology?

    Could you possibly be more in the tank of the Church of Scientology?

    Only you future coverage will tell.
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  17. The Wrong Guy Member

    The disturbing detail other media missed about TMZ’s Scientology scoop yesterday

    By Tony Ortega, December 29, 2016

    http://tonyortega.org/2016/12/29/th...issed-about-tmzs-scientology-scoop-yesterday/
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  18. "In a rare case of an organization actually asking to be given similar treatment to a high-profile racist hate group"

    The AV Club: Scientologists want their A&E show canceled, too

    http://www.avclub.com/article/scientologists-want-their-e-show-canceled-too-247790

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    Scientologists want their A&E show canceled, too

    By William Hughes

    Dec 29, 2016 7:23 PM

    In a rare case of an organization actually asking to be given similar treatment to a high-profile racist hate group, the Church Of Scientology has denounced executives at A&E as hypocrites for continuing to air Leah Remini’s Scientology And The Aftermath while canceling the KKK docu-series Escaping The KKK. In a letter sent to the network—and initially obtained by TMZ—church representatives accused Remini of paying critics of the organization, including herself, to appear on-camera for her show, linking it to charges that producers of Escaping The KKK paid Klan members for access while filming.

    [SNIP]

    Of course, those writers and speakers aren’t spending their profits from the show—if they’re actually getting any—on white hoods or cross-burning supplies, suggesting a certain moral gap between the payments made during Escaping The KKK, and whatever money was doled out for Remini’s show.

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  19. Leah Remini is one of The Federalist's 7 Most Amazing Women of 2016.

    The Federalist: Meet 7 Of 2016’s Most Amazing Women

    http://thefederalist.com/2016/12/29/meet-7-2016s-amazing-women/


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    Leah Remini is using her celebrity microphone to expose a multi-billion-dollar “religion” called Scientology. A&amp;E’s “Leah Remini: Scientology The Aftermath” is being reported as the network’s highest-rated series launch in more than two years. Despite Scientology’s attempt to intimidate and silence her, Leah is exposing the crimes and abuses this “religion” has been practicing for years, turning Scientology’s obsession with celebrities back on itself. Escaping this so-called religion was just the beginning for Leah, and 2016 is bringing a whole new level of badass to her fight. Every Tuesday at 10 p.m. ET, Leah Remini is standing up to bullies and giving a voice to the voiceless.

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  20. PODCAST: Chris C [@MiamiSixthMan] of Come Get Sum [@CGSHere] interviews Chris Shelton [@sheltondesigner] from Scientology The Aftermath, Part 2.

    http://www.blogtalkradio.com/cgshere/2016/12/30/come-get-sum-culture-chris-shelton-scientology-the-aftermath-aftermath-p2

    Audio at link.

    * * * * * BEGIN INTRODUCTION * * * * *

    Chris Shelton is the Author of Scientology A to Xenu: An Insider's Guide to What Scientology is All About, Maintains a Youtube channel with his video series "Critical Thinker At Large" regularly exposing and deconstructing the inner workings of Scientology. Fresh off his appearance on A&E's Leah Remini Scientology: The Aftermath and the just released Scientology smear video on his character has graciously agreed to do this show and nothing is off limits!

    In this 2nd part of my conversation w/ Chris, We explore Sea Org more, Abuses, Accusations about ex members seeking fame & fortune 10 Questions and so much more!!

    Does Chris believe the stories of abuse? What did he clarifyfor me about OT3 vs OTVIII? Is he concerned for the well being of Shelly Miscavige? Find out the answers to these questions and more on this EXTRA long special edition of Come Get Sum!!!

    https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCF326xyA0QHI7Z5xAwKQDJg

    http://www.aetv.com/shows/leah-remini-scientology-and-the-aftermath/season-1

    http://tonyortega.org/

    http://www.mikerindersblog.org/

    Follow Chris on Twitter @sheltondesigner

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  21. Church of Scientology continues to call victim of Scientology forced abortion a "Loser."

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  22. The Wrong Guy Member

    Not entirely related, but close enough.

    Derek Sheen ‏@DerekSheen 17 minutes ago

    Fuck the following things:

    Pants
    Carob
    American Cheese
    Your feelings
    Scientologists
    Trump voters
    Cereal without prizes
    People who say "HUMP Day"
  23. Credits for Leah Remini: Scientology The Aftermath thank as "those who have courageously spoken out before us" Marty Rathbun, Debbie Cook, and Anonymous - Why We Protest, among others.


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  24. The Internet Member

    No fucking way!

    Leah, <3 you bb.
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  25. TrevAnon Member

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  26. RightOn Member

    Thank YOU Leah!
    <3
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  27. pillowcase Member

    Yeah, it was long before the docu series went into production.. From what I recall, after her shout out, some anons provided info about wwp, history and the big list (winks to those involved with the list) Same anons also sent that raid kit/gift long before production began. Same anons shared We are Legion (not sure if she saw it} and suggested Biella's book.

    She is good about communicating (lol) and takes her time for the right moment in releasing things...
    Trev you haz good memory.
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  28. Ask me anything and I will dig it up
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  29. pillowcase Member

    One can always rely on the kittehs, trufax
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  30. Maybe, they scrub the Internet these days of unwanted content for the stars.

    You are a guy right ?
  31. pillowcase Member

    Sorry my genitals are threads. Cotton ftw
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  32. Harry Krishna Member

    Don't know if this is a repeat, but just saw this, and similar links.
    Search filter "Leah Remini" "ask me anything" (happy hunting)

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  33. Leah is very active on Twitter, answers people's questions, and is substantive: https://twitter.com/LeahRemini/with_replies

    Good tabs to have open the next three Tuesday evenings when Leah's show is on, particularly Eastern time, though she has stayed up for the Western time showing:

    https://twitter.com/search?f=tweets&vertical=news&q=scientology&src=typd

    https://twitter.com/search?f=tweets&vertical=default&q=#ScientologyTheAftermath&src=typd

    https://twitter.com/LeahRemini/with_replies

    And, yeah, she is incredibly good at pacing the release of information in interviews to keep up interest, maintain news coverage, etc.
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