Leaked U.S Army Documentation Internment and of United States Citizens(Political Dissidents)

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Anonymous, May 4, 2012.

  1. You know what they say about assuming right?

    I think its quite clear you had already made an ass out of yourself a couple pages back, but thanks for making me one too...

    Time to wake up!

    Semper Fi...
  2. Phisher Member

    People is time to WAKE UP?
  3. Anonymous Member

  4. The people who never went to sleep must be happy and pissed at the same time, "about fuckin time you stupid goons"

    Sorry guys...
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  6. Enturbulette Member

    Time for a haiku:

    Moonbat seers
    surveil surveillance
    with night vision
  7. anonsoldier Member

    None. I've never encountered anything WORTH leaking cause at most I use a SIPR computer about 5 minutes a day to check for classified emails. Otherwise, I don't hang around on Secret systems. Not in my job description.

    I mean, you guys would probably be interested in what the SIPR government wiki has to say about Anonymous, but it's really not all that interesting. I actually want to improve it, there's so little info on there.
  8. grebe Member

    "Assumption" in the context of an effort to distinguish one variable from another is not the same thing as a claim or a probability statement about the world.

    Example: "Assuming A is true, then B is true," is not an assertion that A is true.
  9. grebe Member

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  11. Anonymous Member

    RADIO PAUL will be covering this topic on his show tonight. I know he is looking for callers.
    NDAA and Bradley Manning
  12. No, # 1 is another form of # 2. Are you familiar with a recent Supreme Court case, United States v. Jones (2012)? It was Supreme Court docket number 10-1259. While I am emotional about this, the emotion is outrage over gross violations of the 4th Amendment, and yes, there is also fear of a government that no longer recognizes their duty to obey the laws they have sworn to uphold and protect. I have also not forgotten Kyllo v. United States (2001), 533 US 27, which 420'ers everywhere should know. It bans the use of infrared cameras without a warrant, again on Fourth Amendment grounds. You could counter with California v. Ciraolo (1986) or Florida v. Riley (1989), but the operative words in those erroneous decisions are "naked eye." A drone is not a naked eye. Instead, I would cite Katz v. United States, a famous case from 1967. What do I know, though? I'm not a lawfag.
  13. I can't speak for anyone else, but I'm not happy at all. I'm just pissed and disgusted with what the fascist state formerly known as America has become.
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  14. grebe Member

    A drone used after a warrant has been obtained would not be "surveillance without a warrant."

    Seems like the warrant is important.
  15. Anonymous Member

    You need to look up the definition of the word fascist then.
  16. Anonymous Member

    I'll take a stab at that.
    Socialism/communism: when the means of production are owned by the community/state
    Fascism: when the means of production are in private hands but regulated and taxed by the state
    Free enterprise: when the government is a night watchman state, creating a stable structure for people to go about their business.

    Those were the definitions I learned 40 years ago. Odd how the definitions have morphed over time. For instance, I've not seen evidence of Mussolini being a racist but that is said to be part of fascism. It is part of nazism, but not needed for fascism.

    Mussolini started fascism, so when he says it is corporate capitalism, I believe him.

    from wikipedia, fascism
    The US is a fascist state. I don't like that fact anymore than the next guy, but shying away from facts in evidence is not productive.
    Here's what Joe Flynn gave in the late 40s as the evidence of a fascist state

    We may not be all the way there, but it's too awful damn close for comfort
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  19. And you falsely assume a warrant will be used, when recent history shows the opposite.
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  20. grebe Member

    The point you seem to be missing: the warrant is the issue here, not the means of surveillance.
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  21. Anonymous Member

    Can we intern OP?

  22. Anonymous Member

    The point is the US has a long history of lying to its citizens. Politicians give lip service to the law, but they never feel it actually applies to THEM, just to US.
    You want to trust the government to use its power wisely, which to me is simply silly. No one can use that sort of power wisely, it corrupts all who attempt it. It is the One Ring, and we want to give it to one person and hope for the best.
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  23. Anonymous Member

    How original.
  24. grebe Member

    This is nonspecific fear mongering against the government. I don't think this is helpful.

    If people don't trust the town sheriff, who benefits? Probably the crooks.
  25. Anonymous Member

    that's right.

    it's all about checks and balances, baby - checks and balances.

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  26. grebe Member

    I think you have to translate the black PR into a specific criticism that people can act upon. Otherwise you're just doing what Scientology does: slandering the competition so you can take over.

    Instead of "Psychiatry: An Industry of Death," we get "Government: An Industry of Death."
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  27. Anonymous Member

    This shit started with 9/11 fear mongering by GWB. The problem is we bought into it. Everyone was willing to give up something to feel safe. That opened the door. We must be the ones who decide to close it.

    It is how Al queda may actually win. Death by a thousand paper cuts and we're the ones holding the paper.
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  29. Anonymous Member

    Ever notice what the US is doing overseas? It fits the exact definition of terrorism: the use of violence and intimidation in the pursuit of political aims.

    Seems you haven't been paying attention. The US is the chief terrorist n the world today, and it's got such good PR the Killer in Chief got hisself a Peace Prize.
    Now that is truly spectacular, a man who spends Tuesday's deciding who to kill has a Peace Prize.
    The irony is too rich for reality. It just goes over everyone's head.

    And of course, it has been noted that governments killed about 200M of their own citizens in the 20th Century, so perhaps there would be something to Government: Industry of Death. They certainly have a better claim than the psychs to being an industry of death and destruction, war and mayhem. I mean, governments killed 200,000,000 people in a hundred years. That's one hell of a track record.
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  30. Anonymous Member

    You are not the first person to notice this.
  31. Anonymous Member

    al-Qaeda is an ally of the USG, wake up
  32. Anonymous Member

    never said I was. I was responding to another poster who made a comparison to the industry of death. I was reminding him the US government has killed a lot of innocent people in their pursuit on the war on terror
  33. Anonymous Member

    The US has not one dead "terrorist's" body to show for its trouble, not even Usama bin Laden's. What the fuck kind of war is this, where there are no trophies, no booty, no victories, no goals... ?

    If I didn't know better, I'd say someone was trying to drive the US into bankruptcy, thereby making the country ripe for takeover.

    Oh, wait...
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  34. Anonymous Member

    Hi, hear this is the moonbat theory thread.
  35. Anonymous Member

    Hey "anonsoldier", why not try answering the question ITP?
    Ya bought-and-sold punk.
  36. grebe Member

    Why are you sniping at people like this?

    So what do you recommend we do?
  37. Anonymous Member

    We know already. Read the link.
  38. Anonymous Member


  39. Herro Member

    This cartoon just made me realize something. Our last two presidents have had comically large ears.
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  40. Anonymous Member

    ^^ One of the most sensible things said in this thread^^

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