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Discussion in 'Independent Scientology' started by Anonymous, Jun 20, 2013.

  1. jensting Member

    Nothing in that train wreck an OSA infiltration couldn't fix!
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  2. wolfbane Member

    ^^ /snort

    Damn you Jens, choked on my coffee yes I did.
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  3. Anonymous Member

    This indie group is just as bad as the church they have left. Implode it will, and what fun it will be to watch.
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  4. $30?!?

    I'd rather join Sam's Club.
  5. Anonymous Member

    This is awesome. Need more popcorn. These people are just sooooo screwed up. I think they are addicted to attacking each other.
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  6. Something like that.

    See, Hubbard said that if there's a mistake or a failure, it's due to a Suppressive Person in the vicinty.
    So... in order to explain a general failure, the area in question must be saturated with SPs.

    Eventually, all Scientology and its splinter groups, as they (continue to) shrink, will (continue to) eat each other.
    Metaphorically speaking, that is ;)
  7. jensting Member

    Seems to me that they "running LRH's case" as they would say. But they don't know it yet. Marty comes off as enlightened.

    It takes quite some thick-as-planks people to make Marty look anything other than bad, I have to say, but these people did it!
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  8. Anonymous Member

    Has Silvia Llorens resigned from Milestone Two, Ltd.?

    As first reported in 11 Founding Members of IS Not-For-Profit Membership Org
    https://whyweprotest.net/community/...fit-membership-community.111679/#post-2319396

    one of Eleven Founding Members of Milestone Two, Ltd. was:
    "Silvia Llorens" has now been removed from the list of the Eleven Founding Members of Milestone Two, Ltd. "Silvia Llorens" has been replaced by:

    http://www.iscientology.org/scientology-blog/467-milestone-two-s-eleven
    Interestingly, "Silvia C." is a doppelgänger for "Silvia Llorens."

    My understanding is that questions are being raised regarding whether: (1) Silvia Llorens has resigned as a Founding Member of Milestone Two, Ltd.; and (2) such resignation is being covered-up by the creation of a a fictional "Silvia C."

    .
  9. Anonymous Member

    Completion of Terms of Use of Milestone Two website

    New Terms of Use:
    http://milestonetwo.org/dolph/page/Terms
  10. Anonymous Member

    Do all these moonbats look like this moonbat?

    Pierre_Ethier.jpg

    pierre-ethier2.jpg

    Or have a similar girth, but an opposite gender?

    Pierre should be a Poster Boy for OT.

    Where oh where is the Poster Girl? Is it Mrs. Ethier? Curious spectators need to know!
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  11. Anonymous Member

    Justice Committee and e-Meter PTS A-J check removed from Milestone 2 Constitution

    Guilty as Charged

    By Lana Mitchell

    http://milestonetwo.org/
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  12. Anonymous Member

    REVISED Milestone Two Constitution

    About Milestone Two
    http://milestonetwo.org/dolph/page/About_Us
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  13. Anonymous Member

    Steve Hall and Haydn James Do NOT Support Milestone Two

    http://www.iscientology.org/scientology-blog/470-milestone-two-fail
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  14. Anonymous Member

    All Milestone Two posts removed from iScientology Blog with one exception.

    It appears that, with one exception, all Milestone Two posts have been removed from iScientology Blog. The one exception is the post by Steve Hall and Haydn James entitled: Milestone Two: FAIL
    http://www.iscientology.org/scientology-blog/470-milestone-two-fail

    That post is cross-posted above.

    Lana's blogging will move to Milestone Two: http://milestonetwo.org/dolph/index.php

  15. :DThe grand vision lasted about 2 days. Useless, the lot of them. Lying and misrepresentation at the forefront as usual.

    I was wanting months of drama and laughs, this leaves me a little disappointed
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  16. jensting Member

    Maybe they undersold it...
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  17. Anonymous Member

    Milestone Two Constitution as Redacted and Amended. Also note that Silvia Llorens is no longer a member of the initial Council.

    Original Milestone Two "About Us": https://whyweprotest.net/community/...logy-membership-community-30-per-year.111761/

    Milestone Two "About Us" as amended and redacted: http://milestonetwo.org/dolph/page/About_Us

    Comparison:

    WHAT IS MILESTONE TWO

    Milestone 2 is an on-line membership community. Its activities are carried out across the planet and it has no fixed location. Access to the Milestone 2 fraternity, support, services, library, groups and forums, is through membership only.

    What are the objectives and purposes of Milestone Two?

    To foster an open enterprise virtual platform for a broad and supportive international fellowship and community, uniting people to use the tools and technologies of L. Ron Hubbard on a daily basis to better conditions in the world, and to help themselves.

    To preserve and protect and correctly use the original spiritual philosophy and technologies developed by L. Ron Hubbard in order to secure this path to spiritual freedom for all those who wish to walk it.

    To support an abundance of network communication lines to achieve the aims of the fraternity and to maintain inviting, supportive, honest and transparent communications for any who are interested in participating or wishing to learn of Milestone Two activities.

    To support making training and qualifications services readily available across the planet, through the Milestone Two membership fraternity, to maintain the standard application of L. Ron Hubbard’s auditing, ethics and management technologies.

    To provide support for Field Auditors, groups and organizations so they can obtain and maintain high technical standards and thus ensure their effectiveness and prosperity.

    To initiate broad-reaching dissemination programs that individual members can use to introduce people to L. Ron Hubbard, his philosophies, and the technologies he developed.

    To support an inter-faith program, promoting tolerance, cooperation, care and understanding as integral aspects to any movement that pursues ethical purposes.

    To support the ongoing whistle-blower program on abuses and corruption of L. Ron Hubbard’s discoveries and technologies, making clear delineation between such and the body of work itself.

    How does Milestone 2 work to build and foster a true group?

    In accord with LRH’s Essay on Management, Milestone 2 does this by:

    a. Creating affinity, group to group, and within the organization, and to create and maintain a high affinity with the rest of the world.
    b. Creating an organization that is the model of a better world.
    c. Persevering in the continual raising of organizational tone, toward the goal of the highest individual tone.
    d. Self-generating the organization into a model of efficiency in all its functions and programs, with high pride in the performance on the part of every individual member of the group, and working to correct any individuals, units, or groups, with hatting, word clearing, ethics, de-PTSing, cramming, evaluation, justice or other appropriate technologies.
    e. Making prolific use of the evaluator tech to always find correct situations and right whys that generate effective plans to move the fellowship community continually towards its various ideal scenes
    f. Exchanging in abundance with Milestone Two members, and by continually building on the amount of theta in the group, to guarantee the longevity, greatness and general survival of the fraternity.

    THE MEMBERSHIP FRATERNITY

    There are two tiers of membership; Associate Membership, and Full Membership.

    Anyone can be an Associate member of Milestone Two as long as they; are at least 18 years old; agree with the objectives and purposes of the organization; have paid the annual membership fee; and provided their full name, email, address, city and country they live in.

    Membership is open to individuals. Groups and organizations cannot be a member of Milestone Two, however the individuals of that group certainly can. Individual membership is paid by the individual – not by corporations, groups or others, en masse.

    What is the cost of membership?

    There is no difference in cost between the two tiers – both are $30 annually. There is no lifetime membership available. Membership payments are made online, through Paypal or credit card.

    Access to Milestone Two’s online community and activities is only possible while a member is a paid member. Failure to renew or pay membership results in loss of access to Milestone Two networking facilities and community.

    What is Associate membership?

    An Associate Member has access to the Milestone Two Community online and can network with other members and thereby be part of a cohesive community working to build, deliver and disseminate the technologies of L. Ron Hubbard.

    Associate Members are kept abreast of Milestone Two ongoing activities, projects and programs, and can voluntarily contribute as they wish.

    Associate Members may use the Independent Scientology logo for any related activities, projects or communications they are involved in.

    Associate Members receive the online Milestone Two journal and also receive the Annual Report, which includes detail on organizational activities, financial status and strategy. The opinion and views of Associate Members are valued, however they have no binding vote.

    What is Full membership?

    Full Members have all the benefits of an Associate member, plus they have a vote in the strategy, programs, projects and activities of Milestone Two. There is no difference in cost between the two tiers, but there is a difference in contribution activity and commitment.

    Full Members can request and potentially receive Milestone Two funding for their own activity or group, to build it in size, scope or delivery capacity.

    Full Members can take on positions as Milestone Two staff and may be remunerated for their performance of specific key functions, as feasible. Full members are also eligible for nomination for a position on the Milestone Two Council.

    An Associate Member can become a Full Member by;

    1) evidence of extensive contribution towards the aims of Milestone Two;
    2) passing a PTS A-J check and Help & Control Check by someone qualified to use an e-Meter;
    32) nomination by another Full Member;
    43) acceptance by the majority of Full Members (i.e., more than 50% of full members).

    An Associate Member cannot become a Full Member;

    1) By financial contributions or donations alone;
    2) By relying on only past accomplishments and nothing in present or recent times;
    3) Denigrating or disparaging L. Ron Hubbard or the workability of the technologies he discovered;
    4) if they have not taken responsibility for any past membership or support of groups that have used L.Ron Hubbard’s technology harmfully.

    Can you resign as a member of Milestone 2 if you wish?

    An Associate Member or Full Member of Milestone Two can resign at any time, however refund on annual membership fee is not possible. Any advanced payments for Milestone Two services that have not been delivered will be refunded.

    How are Milestone 2’s finances managed?

    Milestone Two generates revenue through many lines including, but not limited to:

    1) membership fees
    2) field auditor/group support services
    3) virtual folder storage and online auditor/C/S software
    4) Chaplain/Mediation services for the Membership Community
    5) Milestone Two events
    6) Donations.

    The Milestone 2 finances are overseen by the Managing Director, and reported on directly to the Council. Annual financial reports are provided to the full membership community. There is transparency on all membership finances.

    When is the first Annual General Meeting and National Conference?

    The first AGM is not yet scheduled, however is planned for mid January 2014. The location is not yet determined, however it will be within Europe or USA, and access will be available through web conferencing for those unable to attend in person.

    WHO IS IN CHARGE?

    The Milestone Two Membership fraternity and community (Associate and Full members) performs the activities and projects to deliver and expand.

    There is no hierarchy, no statuses and no management body that runs the membership fraternity, or the field auditors, groups or training centers. There are no orders or compliance reports, as all the projects and programs of Milestone Two are originated by members and initiated and completed based on their own drive, desire, purpose and intention.

    Who coordinates and services the Membership community of Milestone 2?

    A small coordination and service Milestone Two organization exists for the Membership Community.

    Milestone Two staff provide the basic functions detailed in the LRH seven division organizing board, to keep in basics such as HCO, Accounts, Membership and Qual for the Membership Community. Key is providing basic coordination facilities to assist the Membership Community to succeed.

    Staff of Milestone Two have NO management capacity or function over field auditors or groups -- they offer coordination services to the Membership fraternity and community to assist them to improve, build and expand their activities using LRH technologies. Such coordination services are provided and accepted entirely on a voluntary basis.

    Staff of Milestone Two have responsibility for ethics within the Membership fraternity and community – however this is simply to hold the channels firm for the delivery and execution of Milestone Two programs and activities – not for any other dreamed up purpose or counter purpose. HCO Milestone Two is there to detect and deal with PTSes and SPs that create trouble within the organization – but has no interest in the personal lives or activities of individual members.

    HCO of Milestone Two can revoke an individual’s membership with Milestone Two if a Member refuses to cooperate or deal with a PTS situation that is impacting on Milestone Two activities. They can also revoke permission for the member to use the Independent Scientology logo for whatever projects or activities they are involved in.

    Technical and Qual staff of Milestone Two have a responsibility to maintain technical standards in Milestone Two programs, projects and activities -- and departures from those standards are handled with the regular instruct, cram, retread and retrain line detailed in OEC Volume 5.

    What are the qualifications to be a staff member of Milestone 2?

    A staff member must be; a) a Full Member, b) ratified by the Council of Milestone Two, c) fully hatted for their function/post within 6 months of appointment and d) must train/audit regularly and thus be moving up The Bridge.

    What is the post of Managing Director?

    The Managing Director coordinates and works with the Milestone Two staff and the Membership Community to achieve the aims and objectives of the organization. The Managing Director, as a staff member of Milestone 2, has no management capacity or function over field auditors or groups or members of Milestone 2. The Managing Director works to build and improve coordination services to the Membership fraternity and community to assist them to improve, build and expand their activities using LRH technologies. Such coordination services are provided and accepted entirely on a voluntary basis.
    The Managing Director is a voting member of the Council and attends all meetings, however cannot at the same time hold the position of President, Secretary or Treasurer of the Council.

    The Managing Director and staff of Milestone Two may be paid based on a financial system established by the Council, with a system that rewards production and is commensurate with the work being done by the individual staff members.

    How is Milestone 2 governed?

    The direction, strategy, finances, staff and production of Milestone 2 are overseen by a Council, comprised of Full members.

    Any Full Member can nominate for a position on the Council, as long as they are minimally OT 3 and an experienced auditor; have proven accomplishments and competence in applying the technologies of L. Ron Hubbard; a proven record of contribution regarding the technologies of L. Ron Hubbard; have taken responsibility for any past membership or support of groups that have used L.Ron Hubbard’s technology harmfully; and must audit/study the technologies of L. Ron Hubbard regularly so they continue to move up The Bridge.

    Council members are not remunerated for their work to govern Milestone Two, however their costs to attend the yearly annual meeting, and any other valid expenses are covered by Milestone Two.

    Council positions are established through nomination and voting by Full Members, once a year at the Annual General Meeting and annual conference.

    Council members have a term of 3 years. There is no maximum length a person can stay on the Council, however they must, every 3 years, get their position reaffirmed by the vote of Full Members.

    Who is the first Council of Milestone 2?

    The first council of Milestone Two was formed from the initial Founding members. These positions are only valid for 1 year and must then be reaffirmed by a vote by the Full Membership at that time (with all Full members able to nominate for positions on the Council and on staff). The first council members are:

    Tom Martiniano, Dani Lemberger, Bernie Wimbush, Mark Schreffler, Jim Logan, Silvia Llorens and Lana Mitchell. In addition to her position as a council member, Lana is also the first Managing Director of Milestone 2, valid for 1 year.

    What are the responsibilities and functions of the Milestone Council?

    The hats of the Milestone Council members are:

    a) Establishing and publishing strategic direction;
    b) Big picture policy formulation for Milestone Two, in alignment with LRH administrative technologies;
    c) Managing Director appointment, monitoring, evaluation, and when necessary, removal;
    d) Ensuring effective governance processes are in place, including legal and accounting requirements of the organization;
    e) Making available resources to the Managing Director and staff to achieve the strategic plan (i.e., money, personnel, materiel, etc.);
    f) Monitoring Milestone Two’s performance against its strategies and targets;
    g) Ensuring risk management is in place;
    h) Maintaining transparency and strong open communication lines with the Membership fraternity and community;
    h) Overseeing financial obligations and management of Milestone Two monetary resources;
    j) Overseeing technical standards of Milestone Two delivery services.

    Council members of Milestone Two have NO special privileges or rights not afforded to all Full members.

    What is the Justice Committee?

    A Justice Committee exists, separate to the Council and to staff and executives of Milestone Two. This committee is comprised of 3 Full Members, hatted on ethics policy and original justice codes, with the function of being a last port of call on technically incorrect findings and instances of flagrant injustice or out-ethics actions which are destructive to statistics.

    The Justice Committee has a Chairman with two members, and can conduct Board of Investigations, Board of Reviews and Committees of Evidence. These are convened by the Council if situations come to their attention that have not been handled by HCO Milestone Two effectively and must be handled for the Membership Community.

    As a last port of call, the Justice Committee can also initiate justice actions on any council member or executive/staff member of Milestone Two if reports to HCO have not resolved severe ethics matters.
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  18. OTeleventy Member

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  19. OperatingSP Member

    Holy crap, you are right! I missed it. Wow.
  20. Anonymous Member

    NOTE CORRECTION ABOVE. PRICE WENT FROM $30 PER YEAR TO $50 PER YEAR.
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  21. Anonymous Member

    Yes, $50 now. Obviously, when demand falls the only rational thing to do is to raise the price....
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  22. rickybobby Member

    OMG this is the biggest bunch of fail. SCIENTOLOGISTS JUST CANNOT STOP ATTACKING EACH OTHER. They just CAN'T. What a bunch of hypocrites! They trumpet the "Tech" like it is a superior method of getting things done, dealing with life problems, etc, but they can't even get together in a simple group and NOT dissolve into public name-calling. This is sooooo pathetic. And Steve Hall is a passive aggressive moron. It was all fine and good, he let his name be used, blah blah blah until the effort fell on it's face, and now he can't distance himself fast enough. He sure as hell would have taken full credit if it had succeeded. He would have congratulated himself for helping "design" a new orgainization rising from the ashes of the evil corporate scientology, and put that baby right on top of his professional resume. And, of course, if he wasn't so dadgum busy with his baby and his most important "projects" he would have "been there to pull it back from the brink of disaster."At least Lana has the balls to stick with it and didn't jump ship at the first inkling that it was sinking.

    I particularly enjoyed the part where Steve professes ignorance of Marty's portrayal as a "group of eleven master criminals" until he got to the wedding. Yeah, right.

    Sorry about the rant, but something about this dude gets under my skin. He doesn't DO much except construct way overwritten prose, design overwrought wordy websites, and snipe from the sidelines. He rode Marty's coattails for awhile, then switched over to Lana and Jim's, and now he has abandoned them as soon as the going got a little tough, disavowing any knowledge. Gee, what a true friend. At least Marty has his own vision he sticks to come hell or highwater, but Steve is just a passive aggressive mushmouth who way overestimates his contribution to everything. I have no respect for the man. Does it show much?
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  23. wolfbane Member

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  24. Anonymous Member

    This only proves ONE thing!
    Scientology doesn't work!
    oh wait....
    :D

    They all can argue till their thetans are blue.
    They are proving without a shadow of a doubt that Scientology it is nothing more than a scam and the tech doesn't work.
    And THANK YOU ALL INDIES for further proving that point.
    Whether it's Marty's Morons, the Ziphead Zoners, Portly Pierre's Pinheads or Steve Hall's Hyenas, all these people know how to do is to try to make money by offering their version of the tech and saying that THEIR way is the only correct way.
    Get some real fucking jobs and stop making your money by brainwashing others. Besides the fact of getting over on the IRS by starting up all these BOGUS businesses that should NOT be tax exempt.
    Some of the most ethical people on the planet.
    hmmmmph!
    Good Day! (lol)
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  25. blownforgood Member

    What about Marc's Merry Mischief Makers? I like the sound of that!
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  26. RightOn Member

    that will do nicely!
    and how about David Love's Leveling Crew?
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  27. Marty-Mark and the Funky Bunch
  28. Xaarin Rybak Member

    Talk about regressive tendencies. I can't wait for this group of indies to become exactly what they hate.
  29. Anonymous Member

    Lol, then you would be the overlord of the indies. That would be interesting.

    Sorry if I make any assumptions, but aren't you friends with some of these guys? Maybe you can shed some sane insight into this seemingly headspinning, ongoing drama.
  30. Anonymous Member

    I wanted to correct the "Milestone Two Constitution as Redacted and Amended" to include the price increase from $30 per years to $50 per year. This was done above, altering a quotation of my earlier post, but I wanted a clean copy. I find the changes interesting. YMMV

    Milestone Two Constitution as Redacted and Amended. Also note that Silvia Llorens is no longer a member of the initial Council. Also note the price is up to $50 per year.


    Milestone Two "About Us" as amended and redacted: http://milestonetwo.org/dolph/page/About_Us

    Comparison:

    WHAT IS MILESTONE TWO

    Milestone 2 is an on-line membership community. Its activities are carried out across the planet and it has no fixed location. Access to the Milestone 2 fraternity, support, services, library, groups and forums, is through membership only.

    What are the objectives and purposes of Milestone Two?

    To foster an open enterprise virtual platform for a broad and supportive international fellowship and community, uniting people to use the tools and technologies of L. Ron Hubbard on a daily basis to better conditions in the world, and to help themselves.

    To preserve and protect and correctly use the original spiritual philosophy and technologies developed by L. Ron Hubbard in order to secure this path to spiritual freedom for all those who wish to walk it.

    To support an abundance of network communication lines to achieve the aims of the fraternity and to maintain inviting, supportive, honest and transparent communications for any who are interested in participating or wishing to learn of Milestone Two activities.

    To support making training and qualifications services readily available across the planet, through the Milestone Two membership fraternity, to maintain the standard application of L. Ron Hubbard’s auditing, ethics and management technologies.

    To provide support for Field Auditors, groups and organizations so they can obtain and maintain high technical standards and thus ensure their effectiveness and prosperity.

    To initiate broad-reaching dissemination programs that individual members can use to introduce people to L. Ron Hubbard, his philosophies, and the technologies he developed.

    To support an inter-faith program, promoting tolerance, cooperation, care and understanding as integral aspects to any movement that pursues ethical purposes.

    To support the ongoing whistle-blower program on abuses and corruption of L. Ron Hubbard’s discoveries and technologies, making clear delineation between such and the body of work itself.

    How does Milestone 2 work to build and foster a true group?

    In accord with LRH’s Essay on Management, Milestone 2 does this by:

    a. Creating affinity, group to group, and within the organization, and to create and maintain a high affinity with the rest of the world.
    b. Creating an organization that is the model of a better world.
    c. Persevering in the continual raising of organizational tone, toward the goal of the highest individual tone.
    d. Self-generating the organization into a model of efficiency in all its functions and programs, with high pride in the performance on the part of every individual member of the group, and working to correct any individuals, units, or groups, with hatting, word clearing, ethics, de-PTSing, cramming, evaluation, justice or other appropriate technologies.
    e. Making prolific use of the evaluator tech to always find correct situations and right whys that generate effective plans to move the fellowship community continually towards its various ideal scenes
    f. Exchanging in abundance with Milestone Two members, and by continually building on the amount of theta in the group, to guarantee the longevity, greatness and general survival of the fraternity.

    THE MEMBERSHIP FRATERNITY

    There are two tiers of membership; Associate Membership, and Full Membership.

    Anyone can be an Associate member of Milestone Two as long as they; are at least 18 years old; agree with the objectives and purposes of the organization; have paid the annual membership fee; and provided their full name, email, address, city and country they live in.

    Membership is open to individuals. Groups and organizations cannot be a member of Milestone Two, however the individuals of that group certainly can. Individual membership is paid by the individual – not by corporations, groups or others, en masse.

    What is the cost of membership?

    There is no difference in cost between the two tiers – both are $30 $50 annually. There is no lifetime membership available. Membership payments are made online, through Paypal or credit card.

    Access to Milestone Two’s online community and activities is only possible while a member is a paid member. Failure to renew or pay membership results in loss of access to Milestone Two networking facilities and community.

    What is Associate membership?

    An Associate Member has access to the Milestone Two Community online and can network with other members and thereby be part of a cohesive community working to build, deliver and disseminate the technologies of L. Ron Hubbard.

    Associate Members are kept abreast of Milestone Two ongoing activities, projects and programs, and can voluntarily contribute as they wish.

    Associate Members may use the Independent Scientology logo for any related activities, projects or communications they are involved in.

    Associate Members receive the online Milestone Two journal and also receive the Annual Report, which includes detail on organizational activities, financial status and strategy. The opinion and views of Associate Members are valued, however they have no binding vote.

    What is Full membership?

    Full Members have all the benefits of an Associate member, plus they have a vote in the strategy, programs, projects and activities of Milestone Two. There is no difference in cost between the two tiers, but there is a difference in contribution activity and commitment.

    Full Members can request and potentially receive Milestone Two funding for their own activity or group, to build it in size, scope or delivery capacity.

    Full Members can take on positions as Milestone Two staff and may be remunerated for their performance of specific key functions, as feasible. Full members are also eligible for nomination for a position on the Milestone Two Council.

    An Associate Member can become a Full Member by;

    1) evidence of extensive contribution towards the aims of Milestone Two;2) passing a PTS A-J check and Help & Control Check by someone qualified to use an e-Meter;32) nomination by another Full Member;43) acceptance by the majority of Full Members (i.e., more than 50% of full members).

    An Associate Member cannot become a Full Member;

    1) By financial contributions or donations alone;
    2) By relying on only past accomplishments and nothing in present or recent times;
    3) Denigrating or disparaging L. Ron Hubbard or the workability of the technologies he discovered;4) if they have not taken responsibility for any past membership or support of groups that have used L.Ron Hubbard’s technology harmfully.

    Can you resign as a member of Milestone 2 if you wish?

    An Associate Member or Full Member of Milestone Two can resign at any time, however refund on annual membership fee is not possible. Any advanced payments for Milestone Two services that have not been delivered will be refunded.

    How are Milestone 2’s finances managed?

    Milestone Two generates revenue through many lines including, but not limited to:

    1) membership fees
    2) field auditor/group support services
    3) virtual folder storage and online auditor/C/S software
    4) Chaplain/Mediation services for the Membership Community
    5) Milestone Two events
    6) Donations.

    The Milestone 2 finances are overseen by the Managing Director, and reported on directly to the Council. Annual financial reports are provided to the full membership community. There is transparency on all membership finances.

    When is the first Annual General Meeting and National Conference?

    The first AGM is not yet scheduled, however is planned for mid January 2014. The location is not yet determined, however it will be within Europe or USA, and access will be available through web conferencing for those unable to attend in person.

    WHO IS IN CHARGE?

    The Milestone Two Membership fraternity and community (Associate and Full members) performs the activities and projects to deliver and expand.

    There is no hierarchy, no statuses and no management body that runs the membership fraternity, or the field auditors, groups or training centers. There are no orders or compliance reports, as all the projects and programs of Milestone Two are originated by members and initiated and completed based on their own drive, desire, purpose and intention.

    Who coordinates and services the Membership community of Milestone 2?

    A small coordination and service Milestone Two organization exists for the Membership Community.

    Milestone Two staff provide the basic functions detailed in the LRH seven division organizing board, to keep in basics such as HCO, Accounts, Membership and Qual for the Membership Community. Key is providing basic coordination facilities to assist the Membership Community to succeed.

    Staff of Milestone Two have NO management capacity or function over field auditors or groups -- they offer coordination services to the Membership fraternity and community to assist them to improve, build and expand their activities using LRH technologies. Such coordination services are provided and accepted entirely on a voluntary basis.
    Staff of Milestone Two have responsibility for ethics within the Membership fraternity and community – however this is simply to hold the channels firm for the delivery and execution of Milestone Two programs and activities – not for any other dreamed up purpose or counter purpose. HCO Milestone Two is there to detect and deal with PTSes and SPs that create trouble within the organization – but has no interest in the personal lives or activities of individual members.

    HCO of Milestone Two can revoke an individual’s membership with Milestone Two if a Member refuses to cooperate or deal with a PTS situation that is impacting on Milestone Two activities. They can also revoke permission for the member to use the Independent Scientology logo for whatever projects or activities they are involved in.

    Technical and Qual staff of Milestone Two have a responsibility to maintain technical standards in Milestone Two programs, projects and activities -- and departures from those standards are handled with the regular instruct, cram, retread and retrain line detailed in OEC Volume 5.

    What are the qualifications to be a staff member of Milestone 2?

    A staff member must be; a) a Full Member, b) ratified by the Council of Milestone Two, c) fully hatted for their function/post within 6 months of appointment and d) must train/audit regularly and thus be moving up The Bridge.

    What is the post of Managing Director?

    The Managing Director coordinates and works with the Milestone Two staff and the Membership Community to achieve the aims and objectives of the organization. The Managing Director, as a staff member of Milestone 2, has no management capacity or function over field auditors or groups or members of Milestone 2. The Managing Director works to build and improve coordination services to the Membership fraternity and community to assist them to improve, build and expand their activities using LRH technologies. Such coordination services are provided and accepted entirely on a voluntary basis.
    The Managing Director is a voting member of the Council and attends all meetings, however cannot at the same time hold the position of President, Secretary or Treasurer of the Council.

    The Managing Director and staff of Milestone Two may be paid based on a financial system established by the Council, with a system that rewards production and is commensurate with the work being done by the individual staff members.

    How is Milestone 2 governed?

    The direction, strategy, finances, staff and production of Milestone 2 are overseen by a Council, comprised of Full members.

    Any Full Member can nominate for a position on the Council, as long as they are minimally OT 3 and an experienced auditor; have proven accomplishments and competence in applying the technologies of L. Ron Hubbard; a proven record of contribution regarding the technologies of L. Ron Hubbard; have taken responsibility for any past membership or support of groups that have used L.Ron Hubbard’s technology harmfully; and must audit/study the technologies of L. Ron Hubbard regularly so they continue to move up The Bridge.

    Council members are not remunerated for their work to govern Milestone Two, however their costs to attend the yearly annual meeting, and any other valid expenses are covered by Milestone Two.

    Council positions are established through nomination and voting by Full Members, once a year at the Annual General Meeting and annual conference.

    Council members have a term of 3 years. There is no maximum length a person can stay on the Council, however they must, every 3 years, get their position reaffirmed by the vote of Full Members.

    Who is the first Council of Milestone 2?

    The first council of Milestone Two was formed from the initial Founding members. These positions are only valid for 1 year and must then be reaffirmed by a vote by the Full Membership at that time (with all Full members able to nominate for positions on the Council and on staff). The first council members are:

    Tom Martiniano, Dani Lemberger, Bernie Wimbush, Mark Schreffler, Jim Logan, Silvia Llorens and Lana Mitchell. In addition to her position as a council member, Lana is also the first Managing Director of Milestone 2, valid for 1 year.

    What are the responsibilities and functions of the Milestone Council?

    The hats of the Milestone Council members are:

    a) Establishing and publishing strategic direction;
    b) Big picture policy formulation for Milestone Two, in alignment with LRH administrative technologies;
    c) Managing Director appointment, monitoring, evaluation, and when necessary, removal;
    d) Ensuring effective governance processes are in place, including legal and accounting requirements of the organization;
    e) Making available resources to the Managing Director and staff to achieve the strategic plan (i.e., money, personnel, materiel, etc.);
    f) Monitoring Milestone Two’s performance against its strategies and targets;
    g) Ensuring risk management is in place;
    h) Maintaining transparency and strong open communication lines with the Membership fraternity and community;
    h) Overseeing financial obligations and management of Milestone Two monetary resources;
    j) Overseeing technical standards of Milestone Two delivery services.

    Council members of Milestone Two have NO special privileges or rights not afforded to all Full members.
    What is the Justice Committee?

    A Justice Committee exists, separate to the Council and to staff and executives of Milestone Two. This committee is comprised of 3 Full Members, hatted on ethics policy and original justice codes, with the function of being a last port of call on technically incorrect findings and instances of flagrant injustice or out-ethics actions which are destructive to statistics.

    The Justice Committee has a Chairman with two members, and can conduct Board of Investigations, Board of Reviews and Committees of Evidence. These are convened by the Council if situations come to their attention that have not been handled by HCO Milestone Two effectively and must be handled for the Membership Community.

    As a last port of call, the Justice Committee can also initiate justice actions on any council member or executive/staff member of Milestone Two if reports to HCO have not resolved severe ethics matters.
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  31. Anonymous Member

    What doomed Milestone Two were the phrases --

    (1) "passing a PTS A-J check and Help & Control Check by someone qualified to use an e-Meter" as a requirement for full, voting membership;

    (2) "Staff of Milestone Two have responsibility for ethics within the Membership fraternity and community";

    (3) "HCO of Milestone Two can revoke an individual’s membership with Milestone Two if a Member refuses to cooperate or deal with a PTS situation"; and, of course,

    (4) "Justice Committee" --

    as well as the other text related to same.

    I think it is a sign of progress that the above provisions were rejected by Indies. Indeed, Lana removed these provisions from the most recent version of her "Constitution" or "About Us," albeit probably too late for Milestone Two.
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  32. Anonymous Member

    For a non-ex, non-scilon, like me, this is like watching a train-wreck in a hall-of-mirrors, during an earthquake, in slow motion... hideous, yet fascinating.
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  33. Anonymous Member

    Jim Logan & Lana Mitchell have withdrawn from Fundamentalist Indie Facebook Group.

    My information is that Jim Logan and Lana Mitchell have withdrawn from Indie Scientologist, which is the more fundamentalist Independent Scientologist group on Facebook.

    If Jim Logan and Lana Mitchell are not going to market Milestone Two to the Fundamentalist Independent Scientologists, one wonders to whom they will market Milestone Two?

    A review of Facebook profiles and friends lists indicates that Jim Logan and Lana Mitchell have also "Facebook disconnected" from Marty, Mike, Sinar, Steve Hall, Betsy and Mike Reppen, and Karen, among others.
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  34. I still see this as a fight between a 8 year old spastic brother beating up his special needs sister. Hard to watch but secretly hilarious.
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  35. Anonymous Member

    Yeah, I've had similar images come to mind - a playground full of extremely retarded people, with full access to power-tools.

    It's extremely gruesome and it never ends well, but if you're driving by, you just gotta pull over and take a look.
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  36. jensting Member

    but it's not very KSW, is it?

    Good :D
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  37. rickybobby Member

    It's quite entertaining. The entertaining sideshow to the slow motion implosion of David Miscavige, Incorporated.
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  38. rickybobby Member

    Thanks for wading through all this mess for us. You obviously have more patience than I do.
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  39. Anonymous Member

    I was going to suggest a title change from $30.00 to $50.00
    but I think this group will be over by then
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  40. Look people. Steve Hall was pressured by Marty to back off, as Marty and Rinder knew we were going to be the next KSW that applies the tech correctly. This was too dangerous for them both so they strong-armed Steve to leave MS2. They have Steve's skellies in the closet (sort of kinda maybe saying if you can read between the lines -- and no, I don't think being gay is wrong, but some do).

    In a nutshell, Steve was totally behind this and now he is not after being threatened by Marty Rathbun and Mike Rinder.

    Steve you think they have shit on you, wait and see honey.

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