LIVE REPORT: from today demonstration 6/22 -- (part4)

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  1. vienna Member

  2. McCain on the subject of Neda!

    Fucking heart-touching
  3. anon123-IRAN Member

  4. Senator john mc cain talks in front of the senate on iranians brave struggle and the



    Senator John McCain of Arizona talks of Iran Crisis and Neda
    June 23, 2009 1 Comment

    Senator John McCain of Arizona gave a speech today in front of the senate summing up the situation in Iran. Senator McCain called the death of Neda a defining moment.

    Today, I and all America pays tribute to a brave young woman who was trying to exercise her fundamental human rights and was killed in the streets of Tehran. All Americans are with her. Our thoughts and our prays are with her.
  5. DanX Member

    travelling thru Tehran now is worse than Bagdad - any moment u can be beaten or arrested -C
  6. DanX Member

    S: Blog- yesterday we saw a 10 years old child die from teargas in his face - - could not film becos militia everywhere
  7. Iran's Uncrowned Prince Cries Over Violence

    very moving video...

    Iran's Uncrowned Prince Cries Over Violence - Iran's Uncrowned Prince Cries Over Violence

    Here is the complete text:

    The Universal Declaration of Human Rights knows no national boundaries. Its defense is not only a matter of ethics, but a mutual obligation of all governments who are its signatories. It is also in their interests.

    No one, no one will benefit from closing his or her eyes to knives and cables cutting into faces and mouths of our young and old (pause) or from bullets piercing our beloved Neda whose only sin was the quest for freedom. No one but tyrants and their thugs.

    Do not let them define what is disrespect for sovereignty, what is interference in others affairs.

    Ladies and gentlemen, a movement was born. On the 22nd of Khordad in my calendar, the 12th of June in yours.

    It is not Islamic or anti-Islamic, it is not for Capitalism or Socialism, nor any other ideology or specific form of government. It cares little about historical squabbles before its birth. But it is about the sanctity even more the sovereignty of the ballot box.

    It may not succeed immediately. It may have ebbs and flows. But let me assure you, it will not die. Because we will not let it die.
  8. vienna Member

  9. DanX Member

    Shirin Ebaadi asked for political sanctions on Iran saying economic sanctions only hurt people.
  10. We are all correspondents now!

    We are all correspondents now!

  11. tim new Member

    Yes the person who wrote that article is either an agent for Iran Gov't trying to discredit legit twitters or an idiot. I follow the people mentioned and they post info that in hindsight is usually very knowledgeable. I say Usually only because I haven't been doing a formal verification but I am unaware of anything they posted that has been false.
  12. is this for real...? can somebody confirm...?

    is this for real...?
    can somebody confirm...?

    if it is - its very powerful stuff - for the big media and for the struggle...
    and very bad news for the regim...

    "Decomposed brain of young Iranian clashes Wednesday"

    "Young Iranian Najvanmrdanh testimony clashes on Saturday 30 June 1388 on the streets of Tehran merry rogue forces mobilize"
  13. huh?

    You are looking at a video. What confirmation do you need?

  14. a very beatiful and moving poster on Neda...

    a very beatiful and moving poster on Neda...

    for to get the full printsize (14x20 cm) go to:
    Atlas Shrugs
    for download...(where I found it)

  15. confirmed source - All major cities in Iran now reporting saound of Allah Akbar - Death to the Dictator

    from same source above

    Atlas Shrugs
  16. ............
    it is very important, I think, that one knows and is sure about things, before one use the material in beg media...

    yes its a video but we dont know if it is real or something else...
    we just dont know...
    if you use this in media - you better be sure - or it will strike back on you...
    its called propaganda...

    its really not a bad thing to check sources, if its possible...
    it looks real but it will have a better charge - if one knows for sure - and knows something about the circumstances around this....

    best wishes
  17. REUTERS: EU presidency asks members to summon Iran's envoys

    EU presidency asks members to summon Iran's envoys
    Mon Jun 22, 2009 10:47am EDT

    PRAGUE, June 22 (Reuters) - The Czech European Union presidency asked the bloc's members on Monday to consider summoning the heads of Iran's missions in Europe to express "deep revulsion" over post-election violence there.

    The Czechs said they had summoned the head of the Iranian ministry in Prague to reject Iran's protest that the EU and its member states were illegitimately interfering in Iran's affairs.

    Teheran officials summoned the Czech charge d'affaires on Sunday along with other 26 EU representatives to complain about EU critical remarks on Iran's elections. The Czechs hold the rotating EU presidency until the end of June. (Reporting by Jana Mlcochova)
  18. DanX Member

    "Larijani accused guardian council of pro-Ahmadi bias & said most Iranians R suspicions of the election result"
  19. Another brilliant first hand report from inside Iran:
    Death of Iranian Neda Salehi Agha Soltan on video grips world | The Australian

  20. Britain has reportedly Frozen $1.6B assets - EU to send stronger message

    Britain has reportedly Frozen $1.6B assets of Mojtaba Khamenei, son of Iran's supreme leader - Unsourced reports are circulating that British banks have frozen $1.6 billion in funds belonging to Mojtaba Khamenei, son of the supreme leader. This supposed affront is cited as another reason for displeasure with Britain in high places in Iran.

    "The total assets frozen in the UK under the EU (European Union) and UN sanctions against Iran are approximately 976,110,000 pounds," Ian Pearson, Britain's Economic Secretary to the Treasury said in a written statement to parliament on Thursday.

    The statement did not give any further details.

    Mojtaba Khamenei has emerged as one of the driving forces behind the government's crackdown, diplomats and observers said, as reported in a Guardian article published on June 22nd. Also, according to some Iran analysts, Khamenei, 70, is maneuvering to position his son as his successor.

    Incoming Swedish presidency believes killing of more protesters obliges EU to send stronger message
    The incoming Swedish presidency today said that the EU needs to strengthen its condemnation of the Iranian authorities, following the deaths of at least ten protesters at the hands of security forces on Saturday.

    Carl Bildt, Sweden's foreign minister, said that EU leaders on Friday had very strongly condemned repression and killings which have taken place since the vote. He said, however, that Saturday's events had made it necessary to be even stronger in our message.

    Official figures say that at least 20 people have been killed in clashes between supporters of Mir Hosein Mousavi and the authorities since the election was held on 12 June.

    Bildt said that Iran should respect the right that I believe is in the Iranian constitution for peaceful demonstrations and peaceful protests.

    Certainly the use of lethal violence against peaceful demonstrators is never tolerated in any country whatsoever, he added.

    The Swedish minister suggested that reports this morning that EU ambassadors in Tehran have been summoned to appear before the Iranian authorities were a sign that Europe's message is being heard. The move is believed to be a response to the statement adopted by EU leaders on Friday, which condemned the use of force against protestors.

    Dutch foreign minister renews protest over Iran violence
    Published: 22 June 2009 13:17 | Changed: 22 June 2009 16:28
    By Radio Netherlands Worldwide

    Dutch foreign minister Maxime Verhagen has lodged a renewed protest with the Iranian charg daffaires in The Hague over what he described as excessive violence used against demonstrators in Iran over the weekend.

    Verhagen reported the move on Sunday evening while responding to the way foreign diplomats have come under attack on Iranian state-run television.

    Like many other Western countries, the Netherlands last week protested to Iran about the circumstances of its presidential election. Verhagen, who is currently on a tour of Syria, Israel and the Palestinian territories, expressed his concern both at the way the Iranian election was conducted and at the degree of violence used to suppress demonstrations. He also complained about the obstruction of foreign journalists in Iran, among them Dutch correspondents.
  21. IMPORTANT: Ahmadinejad and Yazdi preparing a coup

    IMPORTANT: Ahmadinejad and Yazdi preparing a coup
    IMPORTANT: Ahmadinejad and Yazdi preparing a coup -


    This is a post-election video of Ahmadinejad in a meeting, in the city of Qom, with ultra-conservative Ayatollah Mesbah-Yazdi. They are basically planning a coup: to take Iran from an Islamic Republic to an Islamic State (i.e.: pure dictatorship, no more elections after him). He says I can feel the people are spiritually ready for that. He also hints on the rigged elections: now that the job has been achieved with your help
  22. If this all holds true and from other reports I've read, it would seem that Yazdi and Ahmadinejad are/were trying remove the reformist completely from the Iranian government (especially Akbar Hashemi Rafsanjani). This would allow them to continue to remake the Iranian constitution and make a pure dictatorship as stated above. This may have been what they were thinking when rigging the election, not taking into account the will of the Iranian people and how aggressively dismantlement what Khomeni set up would enrage groups from many factions both left and right.

    More info: Mohammad-Taqi Mesbah-Yazdi - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
  23. nildor Member

    there is a discussion about it in this thread as well
    and one person wrote:

  24. Any word on whether the strike & closing of the bazaar was successful today?
  25. NEW VIDEO Protester gives flower to Army Solider


    NEW VIDEO Protester gives flower to Army Solider
    June 23, 2009

    [ame=]YouTube - Army On The Streets Iran[/ame]

    Another video of a peaceful protest in Iran.

    At the 1:36 mark, a solider is seen with flowers given to him by a protester as the crowd cheers the peaceful gesture.
  26. nildor Member

    Guardian put up an English transcription of a state-run Iranian TV interview from today with a young man purported to be a detained protester. It ran this morning on Vision of the Islamic Republic of Iran Network 1, Tehran.

    More government propaganda here:
    Iran in crisis: live - 23 June 2009 | News |
  27. That was put out by the Iranian regime. Well fuck me gotta be true then, hold on the tinfoil on my head got wrinkled... reception is gettin bad... be back up in a bit.
  28. nildor Member

    i know that. that's why i wrote "government propaganda"
  29. what's next?

    It is a shame that the indignity that the rights of women, religious freedom and of peaceful assembly have been denied in Iran. Clearly, the protesters objective has change from the onset of the protest. I have been scouring the internet looking for a hint as to what the Iranian protesters are aiming for; when the current ruling power is willing to listen what will the voice of the protesters speak? Will they be looking to oust the current ruling cleric and install a new one? Or will the Iranian people look towards a different type of government?

    I have also noticed quite a bit of talk of other countries intervening in the current Iranian crises. I am assuming that this talk is from people that dont really have much of a stake in the crises and are just sitting on a fence shouting at the team on the field such as in a football match. Suggestions range from governments voicing their objections to a more forceful solution involving military action. I would think that voicing displeasure to the Iranian rulers has very little effect since they cant even hear the cries from their own people. Having a military intervention is completely absurd. But the question still remains what do the protesters want from the outside world how can we help?
  30. DanX Member

    Iran News Netowrk is blaming Neda's death on anti-revolution forces who want to make the government look bad
  31. DanX Member

    Unverified report: Clashes on Keshavarz blvd between protesters and the police who were headed to Kuye Daneshgah at Amir Abad intersection.
  32. I wasn't poking fun at you, just stressing the fact that the regime thinks anyone would believe anything they have to say.
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  34. shervin Member

    No, it wasn't.
  35. You'd be surprised how many would. It's all about how many alternative views you get to see in you daily life. Take free press away, make everyone think that everyone else is a possible government spy and wham! people start believing propaganda like it's the law of gravity.
  36. stillstanding Member

    Chants of AllahoAkbar and Marg bar Dictator have begun again. Seams like many more people and louder than nights before.
  37. dr3k-IRAN Member

    Are these the REAL army or just Revolutionary Guard or Police? I see nothing to indicate they're military, one is even aboard a police water canon truck.
  38. DanX Member

    Obama: It is important for us to let the Iranian know that they are not alone in this process and that ultimately justice will prevail
  39. baghalizer Member

    The Black ones are Anti Riot Police, The brown-green ones are From Revolutionary Guards.
    I saw that they send many troops from cities next to tehran, to the capital today. but most of them were Revolutionary Gaurds.
  40. baghalizer Member

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