Malaysia Airlines flight goes missing

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  1. rof Member


    A mysterious metal orb found on a beach in the Maldives became internet-famous and spawned speculation the plane had wound up there.
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    Mapped: One year on from MH370, all the planes which have disappeared since 1948

    On March 8, 2014, Malaysia Airlines flight 370 and its 239 passengers disappeared. In doing so it joined a long list of aircraft which have vanished without a trace. Mouse over or tap the dots on the map to find out more about each one.

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  3. White Tara Global Moderator

    Oh shit, that's just the ones that disappeared, flying doesn't seem like such a fine idea now :oops:
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    Flight MH370 investigators consider oxygen starvation as cause of disappearance | The Guardian

    June 26, 2014

    Plane on 'autopilot before crash', with course pointing to likely depressurisation and hypoxia rendering crew unconscious

    MH370 pilot switched off oxygen to kill himself, according to Kiwi Airlines boss | Daily Mail Online

    September 15, 2014

    The pilot of the missing MH370 flight killed himself and his passengers by switching off the oxygen supply in what is the sixth example of such a suicide, according to an aviation expert.

    Ewan Wilson, head of Kiwi Airlines, believes Zaharie Ahmad Shah planned mass murder - locking his co-pilot out of the cockpit, depressurising the cabin and shutting down all communication links before turning the plane around.

    Germanwings co-pilot Andreas Lubitz DELIBERATELY crashed plane into French Alps | Daily Mail Online

    March 25, 2015

    The co-pilot of the doomed Germanwings Airbus A320 locked his captain out of the cockpit before deliberately crashing into a mountain to 'destroy the plane', it was sensationally revealed today. French prosecutor Brice Robin gave further chilling details of the final ten minutes in the cockpit before the Airbus A320 plunged into the French Alps killing 150 people.

    Revealing data extracted from the black box voice recorder, he said the co-pilot - 28-year-old German Andreas Lubitz - locked his captain out after the senior officer left the cockpit. At that point, Lubitz used the flight managing system to put the plane into a descent, something that can only be done manually - and deliberately.

    He said: 'The intention was to destroy the plane. Death was instant. The plane hit the mountain at 700kmh (430mph). I don't think that the passengers realised what was happening until the last moments because on the recording you only hear the screams in the final seconds'.

    Earlier in the flight, Mr Brice said Lubitz's responses, initially courteous, became 'curt' when the captain began the mid-flight briefing on the planned landing of the plane. The captain - named by local media as German father-of-two Patrick Sonderheimer - then left the cockpit but found himself locked out when he tried to re-enter.

    Mr Robin said: 'We hear the pilot asking the co-pilot to take over and we hear the sound of a chair being pushed back and a door closing so we assume that the captain went to the toilet or something. So the co-pilot is on his own, and it is while he's on his own that the co-pilot is in charge of the plane and uses the flight management system to start the descent of the plane. At this altitude, this can only be done voluntarily. We hear several shouts from the captain asking to get in, speaking through the intercom system, but there's no answer from the cockpit.'

    Mr Robin said Lubitz 'voluntarily' refused to open the door and his breathing was normal throughout the final minutes of the flight. He said: 'His breath was not of somebody who was struggling. He never said a single word. It was total silence in the cockpit for the ten past minutes. Nothing.'

    Air Traffic Control at Marseille asked for a distress signal, but there is still no response, said Mr Robin. He added: 'So the plane becomes a priority for a forced landing. Control asks other planes to contact this Airbus and no answer is forthcoming. There are alarm systems which indicate to all those on board the proximity of the ground. Then we hear noises of someone trying to break into the door. The door is reinforced according to international standards.'

    Mr Robin went on: 'Just before final impact we hear the sound of a first impact. It's believed that the plane may have hit something before the final impact. There is no distress signal or Mayday signal. No answer was received despite numerous calls from the tower.'

    Referring to Lubitz, Mr Robin said: 'He did this for a reason which we don't know why, but we can only deduct that he destroyed this plane. 'We have asked for information from the German investigation on both his profession and personal background'. Mr Robin said he had no known links with terrorism, adding: 'There is no reason to suspect a terrorist attack.' And asked whether he believed the crash that killed 150 people was the result of suicide, he said: 'People who commit suicide usually do so alone... I don't call it a suicide.'

    Lufthansa CEO Carsten Spohr said all pilots undergo annual medical checks, but not special psychiatric assessments beyond training. He added: 'He passed all medical exams, all checks. He was 100 per cent fit to fly without any restrictions. 'I am not a lawyer. I am the CEO of a big company. If one person takes 149 people with him to death, it is not suicide.'

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    Just over a year on, inhabitants of the remote island of Kudahuvadhoo in the Indian Ocean have reported seeing a low-flying passenger jet on the morning the MH370 flight disappeared.

    The Malaysia Airlines jet disappeared with 239 people on board on the 8 March 2014. Now residents of the Maldives island say they saw a plane with red and blue markings on the fatal day.
    Villagers from the 3500-strong community, in the Southern area of the Dhaalu Atoll in the Indian Ocean, also heard a loud noise as the plane flew low over head, according to a local news source
    atoll.jpg Atols in the Maldives “I've never seen a jet flying so low over our island before.
    "We've seen seaplanes, but I'm sure that this was not one of those.
    "I could even make out the doors on the plane clearly,” said one villager.
    Passenger aircraft crashes in last twelve months
  6. The Wrong Guy Member

    Mathematicians claiming to know where Malaysia Airlines MH370 crashed told to recalculate

    Experts using a high-tech computer model gave what has been described as the best explanation yet as to how the doomed Boeing 777 crashed and why it hasn’t been found. Academics from a number of American universities teamed up to complete the advanced calculations and found the jet was most likely to have plunged into the sea at a vertical angle. The clean entry means the fuselage stayed in tact, explaining why no debris or oil has been found since the suspected crash on March 8 2014.

    But researchers admitted they may need to carry out more calculations after renegade scientist Andre Milne, who believes the downed plane is actually in the Bay of Bengal, noticed a major weakness in the sums. He claims the amount of kinetic energy being transferred into the sea would have been so vast it would have activated oceanic sensors which are situated around the world and would have given searchers a near enough exact location of the point of impact.

    Mr Milne, who is fundraising to launch his own search in the Bay of Bengal said: “No corroborating date from the oceanic sensors confirms Dr. Chen and his team have nothing but an interesting super computer simulation of what may or may not be theoretically possible.

    “A Boeing 777 has no kinetic energy when it is sitting still on the runway. Get that Boeing 777 moving at close to 600 miles an hour and you have a massive amount of force now attached which is called kinetic energy. In the case of MH370 hitting the water in a nose dive at 500 miles an hour, the kinetic energy is a minimum of 4.5 billion foot-pounds (the amount of energy required to move one pound one foot) of force. What their super computer did not calculate is that the massive impact explosion of water from that 4.5 billion foot-pounds of force would have simultaneously triggered the oceanic sensors. They are situated all over the world and immediately would have given the searchers the exact location of the point of impact. Since there was no massive 4.5 billion foot-pounds of force impact detected... It never happened.”

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    MH370 Search Like A 'Goose Chase'

    Tim Clark, the CEO of Emirates, Middle East's largest airline, likened the search efforts for the missing Malaysia Airlines Flight MH370 to a “goose chase” on Tuesday, and said the Australian government will soon call off the operation, Sydney Morning Herald reported.

    The search for the plane has been ongoing for over a year with no concrete clues about its whereabouts. Clark made the comments during the International Air Transport Association annual meeting in Miami, an airline spokesman confirmed to NBC News. The Dubai-based Emirates has more than 100 Boeing 777 aircraft in its fleet, which is the same type as the MH370 that went missing in March 2014. Clark said he was pessimistic about the chances of finding the plane.

    "I think it is only a question of time before the search is abandoned," he said, according to Sydney Morning Herald. "Do we have solutions? Do we have explanations? Cause? Reasons? No. It has sent us down a goose chase. It will be an Amelia Earhart repetition."

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  7. DeathHamster Member

    Sweet Xenu's Hairy Nostrils! Does anyone still risk a brain aneurism by calculating force with English units? (And they didn't even come close to getting it right: a foot-pound will accelerate a mass of one slug 1 ft/s^2.)

    Use Newtons!
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    CNN just quoted a Boeing representative as having said that based in the photos they have seen, the piece is consistent with a Boeing 777.
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    US official: Debris in photo belongs to Boeing 777 | Associated Press

    Air safety investigators have a "high degree of confidence" that a photo of aircraft debris found in the Indian Ocean is of a wing component unique to the Boeing 777, the same model as the Malaysia Airlines plane that disappeared last year, according to a U.S. official said Wednesday.

    Air safety investigators — one of them a Boeing investigator — have identified the component as a "flaperon" from the trailing edge of a 777 wing, the U.S. official said.

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    New report suggests deliberate act in MH370 cockpit

    Published by CNN on July 30, 2015

    A preliminary assessment by U.S. intelligence agencies suggested it was likely someone in the cockpit deliberately directed the MH370's movements to go off course before the Malaysian airliner disappeared.
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    Ok I lol'd :D

    The Australian creator of a Where’s Wally-style picture book prompting readers to search for pieces of MH370 in Hell has fended off suggestions it might be offensive to the victims’ families.

    Mathew Carpenter, the self-described “evil genius” behind the accidental hit website “ship your enemies glitter”, this week launched the “Where’s MH370” picture book.

    Each page challenges readers to find items from the doomed Boeing 777, such as the blackbox, landing gear and a suitcase, in 12 locations including "North Korea, Russia, the Moon and Hell".
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    WTF, a guy involved in a private search for MH370 goes to Mozambique and he finds part of the plane. Then he says, "It never occurred to me that I would find something like this here."

    Dude smells fishy.
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  20. Random guy Member

    Indian Ocean seesm to be the right place to look. though.
  21. The Wrong Guy Member

    MH370: two new aircraft fragments 'almost certainly' from missing aircraft

    Australian announcement about pieces found in South Africa and Mauritius means a total of five pieces of debris have now been confirmed from missing jet

    MH370 search: 'decreasing possibility' plane will be found, say authorities

    Australian Transport Safety Bureau says there are only 15,000 sq km of seafloor to be surveyed before search ends

    Is this the wreckage of Flight MS804? Images emerge as debris from EgyptAir jet is found off Greek island after it went into 'sharp spin' and fell 22,000ft in what was 'almost certainly a terror attack'
    • EgyptAir flight MS804 vanished over the Med at 00.30am GMT after leaving Paris at 9.09pm GMT on Wednesday
    • Airline said contact was lost with plane 10 miles into Egyptian air space about 40 minutes before it was due to land
    • Airbus A320 was flying at 37,000ft and did not make a distress call before it disappeared off radar, officials say
    • There were 56 passengers on board including one Briton, 30 Egyptians, 15 French and one Canadian and 10 crew
    • British national has been named locally as Richard Osman, a 40-year-old geologist from Carmarthen in west Wales
    • Major search operation underway as former air crash investigation chief says it is 'very probably a terror attack'

    EgyptAir flight MS804: airliner confirms it has found wreckage near Greece – live | The Guardian
  22. Quentinanon Member

    A terror attack at 37,000 ft. and no distress message?
    Must have been one powerful bomb in the cargo hold.
  23. JohnnyRUClear Member

    Osman, eh? Where have I heard that name before.....
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    EgyptAir's MS804 Airbus jet 'had been forced to make THREE emergency landings in the 24 hours before it crashed into the Mediterranean' | Daily Mail Online

    Missing EgyptAir flight MS804 had reportedly been forced to make three emergency landings in the 24 hours leading up to crash.

    The Airbus 320 is said to have been forced to turn around shortly after takeoff on three separate occasions after it's warning systems signalled an anomaly onboard.

    The claims, made in French media, have since been denied by the Egyptian lead crash investigation committee.

    The airplane's onboard warnings system, Acars, went off shortly after take off from three airports where in the 24 hours before the crash, Euronews reports.

    All alerts were reportedly investigated after emergency landings, with nothing found.

    This comes after French naval search vessel Laplace picked up signals believed to originate from one of the black boxes of flight MS804.

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  26. DeathHamster Member
    That's full of shit for a "former aviation security official". Planes transmit ACARS signals all the time; it's a status beacon.

    On the plus side, anyone with a scanner and sound card can monitor ACARS in their area, and there might be hobbyist web sites with logs in the areas he claims there were emergencies.
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    EgyptAir wreckage spotted in Mediterranean, Egypt says

    Searchers have spotted the wreckage of EgyptAir Flight 804, which plunged into the Mediterranean Sea with 66 people board, Egyptian authorities announced Wednesday.

    The discovery came days before the 30-day life of the batteries for the emergency signals for the Airbus A320’s recorders, after the May 19 crash.

    Recovering the voice and data recorders from the plane are considered key to figuring out whether a mechanical flaw or crew mistake – or terrorism – downed one of the world’s most popular airliners.

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    Exclusive: MH370 Pilot Flew a Suicide Route on His Home Simulator Closely Matching Final Flight

    By Jeff Wise, New York Magazine, July 22, 2016

    New York has obtained a confidential document from the Malaysian police investigation into the disappearance of Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 that shows that the plane’s captain, Zaharie Ahmad Shah, conducted a simulated flight deep into the remote southern Indian Ocean less than a month before the plane vanished under uncannily similar circumstances. The revelation, which Malaysia withheld from a lengthy public report on the investigation, is the strongest evidence yet that Zaharie made off with the plane in a premeditated act of mass murder-suicide.

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    Report: MH370 spiraled into sea | CNN

    Missing plane Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 was plunging toward the sea with no one in control when it made its last satellite communication, new analysis reveals. CNN's Rene Marsh reports.
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    Traces of explosives found on EgyptAir crash victims, say authorities | The Guardian

    Egypt’s civil aviation ministry confirms a criminal investigation will now begin into crash in May of flight MS804 that killed 66.
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    Did pilot's mobile phone play a role in EgyptAir 804 crash? | The Telegraph


    French investigators are probing whether an EgyptAir jet may have crashed into the Mediterranean last May after lithium batteries on a pilot's mobile phone and tablet overheated and sparked a fire.

    There is a "troubling parallel" between where the fire broke out in the cockpit zone on board Flight 804 and the spot where the co-pilot of the Airbus A320 had placed his phone and tablet on the glare-shield above the instrument panel, said Le Parisien newspaper citing an air transport gendarmerie investigation.

    However, one air expert questioned the theory, saying that the most "plausible" cause of the tragedy remained that of fire in the avionics bay beneath the cockpit, sparked either by a short circuit or explosion. Industry experts also questioned whether it was plausible for a pilot to have taken off with his phone on the dashboard.


    The stability of lithium batteries has been the subject of controversy. Some are banned from aircraft and certain models in mobile devices have been known to overheat and catch fire. In December 2010, a fire broke out in an Air France flight from Atlanta to Paris when a lithium battery jammed under a seat. ignited. A small fire also broke out on a device being charged in May 2013 on another Air France jet, flying from Paris to Sao Paulo, Brazil.

    However, David Learmount, operations and safety editor at Flight International magazine and a former pilot, said he thought the idea that mobile devices were the cause was a "red herring".

    "Firstly, pilots don't leave objects on the dashboard because they know the they will end up in their lap when they take off or on the floor and they'll get airborne in turbulence and could jam the controls."

    "Also, a phone bursting into flames just below the windscreen is a fairly spectacular thing to take place on a flight, and they would have told somebody on the ground. Nobody has mentioned this.

    "But the key point is while there were warnings about the window heating systems, there were also smoke alarms in the toilet and avionics bay under the floor. How would the fire have got under there? It doesn't make sense."

    "My guess is the little computer in the avionics bay was damaged by fire; and issued spurious warnings, which were in fact the box screaming for help." This could have been started by a short circuit or explosion, he said.


    Apple, the manufacturers of the iPhone and iPad devices used by the pilot, on Friday said it had not been contacted by "any authority investigating this tragic event", which indicated these did "not believe our products are in any way involved".

    "We have not seen the report but we understand there is no evidence to link this event to Apple products. If investigators have questions for us, we would of course assist in any way we can," it said.

    "We rigorously test our products to ensure they meet or exceed international safety standards."

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