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Marc Headley's Lawyer gets his lug nuts sabotaged!

Discussion in 'Marc Headley v. Church of Scientology Internationa' started by blownforgood, Jun 4, 2009.

  1. blownforgood Member

    Marc Headley's Lawyer gets his lug nuts sabotaged!

    This just in.

    My lawyer (Barry van Sickle) said that he just happened to see some guy was hanging around his car. When Barry went to leave is his car he found a lug nut missing and another one loosened. Looks like each morning will now involve a vehicle walk around and check of the wheels.

    Doubt that this was a random act of vandalism. I mean, who does this anymore? This is DC9 tech all the way.

    Getting more specifics and will post when I have them.

    Until next time...
    BFG
  2. re: Marc Headley's Lawyer gets his lug nuts sabotaged!

    When I was like... 7... my friends would tell me how they do that... and would collect them...


    Which shows the maturity level of the culties
  3. exOT8Michael Member

    re: Marc Headley's Lawyer gets his lug nuts sabotaged!

    Filed a Police report?
    Might be a good idea. If OSA is up to its old stale tricks again some dox created might help later.
    Judges and juries don't like hit men hired by supposed charities.
    Keep vigilant!!
  4. TinyDancer Member

    re: Marc Headley's Lawyer gets his lug nuts sabotaged!

    Before the usual blast of DOCS OR GTFO v. OSA, OSA, OSA,

    Marc, as I understand it, Barry doesn't wish to make anything of this. Right? Does he know you're posting it here?
  5. Anonymous Member

    re: Marc Headley's Lawyer gets his lug nuts sabotaged!

    Yea I agree on this one. This is not saying a scilon did it. It is just a weird thing that we should not be afraid of happening to us. Nobody is blaming anyone. Just reporting something that actually caused NO DAMAGE.
  6. blownforgood Member

    re: Marc Headley's Lawyer gets his lug nuts sabotaged!

    Yes, this is true. And the suprise inspection that we got from Child Services based on a phone tip they got that my two children were being endangered was also just a random act. No damage was done there either, but it took me 2 days to get my wife to chill out.

    When you get followed by PI's all the time, freinds become plants or double agents and crazy shit just happens, TFS (tin foil syndrome) sets in and ya know...

    Oh screw it.

    until next time...
    BFG
  7. Anonymous Member

    re: Marc Headley's Lawyer gets his lug nuts sabotaged!

    I would have to surmise that Mark and Barry are no dog and pony show. I think that they have strategies in place that I can only grasp at straws about. What other war horse quotes can I say here? hmmm brb..thinking
  8. Smurf Member

    re: Marc Headley's Lawyer gets his lug nuts sabotaged!

    Make sure his brake lines have not been cut. And expect more vandalism to occur as your case progresses. I suspect some Scilon got his little Snickers reward when he reported in to his terminal.
  9. Anonymous Member

    re: Marc Headley's Lawyer gets his lug nuts sabotaged!

    BFG,

    Shit! They are desperate!

    Blessings to your family
  10. Anonymous Member

    re: Marc Headley's Lawyer gets his lug nuts sabotaged!

    Snickers reward as in a mini Snickers bar? That would be too funny!
  11. Avery1 Member

    re: Marc Headley's Lawyer gets his lug nuts sabotaged!

    RAGE.

    Pathetic cowards are pathetic.
  12. Smurf Member

    re: Marc Headley's Lawyer gets his lug nuts sabotaged!

    Exactly. The most "dangerous" SPs that OSA targets are listed on a "war board" in OSA's offices in the HGB.

    When a black op against an SP has been successfully executed, and noted on the board, the Scilon that executed the op is rewarded with a mini Snickers bar (like you find during Holloween).

    And everyone of the bars are accounted for.. no room for sneaking a snack here & there.
  13. Anonymous Member

    re: Marc Headley's Lawyer gets his lug nuts sabotaged!

    OMX (oh my xenu) are you for real ? And do they enjoy that mini snickers bar w zealous?
  14. N. Ron Rubber Member

    re: Marc Headley's Lawyer gets his lug nuts sabotaged!

    Wow. And those guy claim to be a religion...
  15. lothar Member

    re: Marc Headley's Lawyer gets his lug nuts sabotaged!

    Just because you know nothing about cars and learned everything from watchin Dukes of Hazzard does not mean this is a real issue. When driving your car, pay attention to the RED WARNING LIGHTS

    If someone did cut your brake line, you would notice it after leaving the driveway when you have no brake pressure and the red light comes on. Even if they somehow nicked the line/hose to somehow magically have it fail at just the right moment (except maybe for CA freeway stop and go) you have a transmission and a parking brake, and worst case might be a fender bender. In fact, you should already know if your parking brake works well by going 15 mph and applying the brake hard to make sure you do in fact lock up your rear tires. (In automatics, you might put into neutral). It's a good check especially if you have drums in the rear.

    A more serious threat is something in your gas tank that cause your engine to seize up while driving down the freeway when you lose power braking and power steering. (Like idiots that drive with an oil light or temp light on).
  16. exOT8Michael Member

    re: Marc Headley's Lawyer gets his lug nuts sabotaged!

    So is the mini Snickers bar a symbol of OSA snickering at having fair gamed someone (using tax exempt dollars, by the way)?
  17. lothar Member

    re: Marc Headley's Lawyer gets his lug nuts sabotaged!


    Not to make less of this or say it wasn't intentional tampering.. It is also possible the lugs got loose either from vibration (when was the last time the tire was off/on) or the last tire place didn't do it tight enough.

    It could be this suspicious person was an angel and alerted Van Sickle to loose lug nuts. So this could also be a blessing in disguise.

    Also, you'd be surprise how long you can drive with only three lugs. The more serious risk then a missing lug, is half of them loose a 1mm or so because you can shear the studs and lose the tire. I've also had a whole wheel hub fall off at highway speeds and it is relatively safe as long as your are a good driver and it is not your front wheel that goes.
  18. JohnnyRUClear Member

    re: Marc Headley's Lawyer gets his lug nuts sabotaged!

    Marc:

    You, your wife, Barry, and everyone else working on these cases are people I very much admire.

    I just wanted you to know that, right now.


    --nobody special
  19. WilberMercer Member

    re: Marc Headley's Lawyer gets his lug nuts sabotaged!

  20. TinyDancer Member

    re: Marc Headley's Lawyer gets his lug nuts sabotaged!

    Marc, I fully believe that you, Claire, Laura and Barry are likely at the top (or near the top) of the cult's list of SP's to harass. I think we all know you're at the pointy edge of the movement. You certainly have my sympathy and rage and admiration and prayers.

    I was hoping just to forestall the usual raging debate over the same issues - evidence v tinfoil. In your case, I don't need any more evidence to offer you my support and concern. Neither you nor Barry is asking anything else. Hence, we don't need to have the usual debate.

    We don't need to have a debate over what security measures you and Barry have in place. Because we don't want them to know what evidence they'll be leaving behind when/if they try any hanky panky.
  21. Consensus Member

    re: Marc Headley's Lawyer gets his lug nuts sabotaged!

    It's important to reiterate from time to time that one of the goals of harassment is to make you look paranoid, thus discrediting you. Yeah, they do nasty shit. Yeah, they try to make sure there's no 'proof' they did it. Yeah, I do think they hope some SP will die as a result (and the tech teaches scilons to think, in such a case, that it was really an elaborate suicide).

    Nonetheless, they can achieve their aim even if every attempt fails - that is, they can make us look like loonies, crying 'OSA' every time we see someone shady walk by. I've fallen victim to the tin foil phenomenon myself on occasion.

    They are aggressive assholes. But if you get distracted and just point at the patterns of shady behavior we observe and shout 'SEE?! THAT'S SCIENTOLOGY!' we get distracted from pointing out what they don't want us to point out: namely, that Scientology doesn't work, and that it defrauds people.
  22. Krautfag Member

    re: Marc Headley's Lawyer gets his lug nuts sabotaged!

    I would rather like a hypothetical debate on why - IF its the scilons are behind it - all the old GO tricks are happening now, what it could mean strategically and what it tells us about the inner workings in Lil' Daveys head at the moment.
  23. Krautfag Member

    re: Marc Headley's Lawyer gets his lug nuts sabotaged!

    Aye, but they got busted for that kind of shit before. Just pull out the Paulette Cooper dox, when they point their finger at us and yell "loonies", if you are worried about the external view on anonymous.
  24. auchraw Member

    re: Marc Headley's Lawyer gets his lug nuts sabotaged!

    This boring troll's idea of a blessing is a very very odd one. Like death for a sinner is a blessing in disguise.

    To mention only one of several disguised blessings, it could be possible that DM's mother-in-law shot herself three times with a shot-gun before hitting the right spot. And it could be possible that a boxer puppy suddenly found a rare and unknown poisonous plant growing in a corner of his garden where no such plant had ever grown before. And so on.
  25. re: Marc Headley's Lawyer gets his lug nuts sabotaged!

    Now, I'm all hungry for a SNICKERS... damm you OSA!
  26. Tommy Davis Member

    re: Marc Headley's Lawyer gets his lug nuts sabotaged!

    I wish I had a snickers bar :(
  27. enturbulina Member

    re: Marc Headley's Lawyer gets his lug nuts sabotaged!

    I like this line of thinking.

    The guys that are doing black ops, are they usually scifags that are trying to get back in the good graces? Are they hungry for "wins" and snickers bars? If so, maybe they are hungry enough to fuck with bait cars that are being filmed?

    What if Boris had not mentioned the puppy poisoning and had gone out and bought a replacement Rex to let out in the backyard, or made a video immediately featuring this replacement dog, would the scifag (lets pretend it WAS a scifag for this mmk?) would the scifag then think he failed and try again? idk. Im just brainstorming.

    It seems that while healthy skepticism is in order, could this same healthy skepticism be helping to accomplish the goal of OSA? The goal being to make the victim look like a tin foil wearing loon to others? - (note for the slow witted - i am not saying to ditch the skepticism.)

    I think it is wise to follow every report of suspected tampering, poisoning, etc. with links to the Paulette Cooper case and other proven incidences where scifags DID do such things. Point out how such things are LRH policy.

    Maybe even point out the fact they must use such means to shut up critics because their whole show is a scam and they cant have anyone believing the critics whe they say Scientology doesn't work.
  28. the_cloak Member

    re: Marc Headley's Lawyer gets his lug nuts sabotaged!

    Hidden cameras. Use them.
  29. crockhat Member

    re: Marc Headley's Lawyer gets his lug nuts sabotaged!

    Pfizer pay in dime bars. Oooh yeah!
  30. Anonymous Member

    re: Marc Headley's Lawyer gets his lug nuts sabotaged!

    ^^^^^^
    THIS
  31. q_p Member

    re: Marc Headley's Lawyer gets his lug nuts sabotaged!

    I agree with the camera suggestions. Video is powerful proof. Enough "moments" captured on camera from many different sources will also prove that the cult endorses/condones that activity preventing the cult from claiming the caught were acting of their own free will.

    I would have at least one camera aimed at your car at home. I would also consider putting in a camera in the car, aimed out the back so you can tape those that are following you. And possibly another looking across the passenger seat out the drivers window with audio to capture those up-close and personal exchanges.

    And if I were in your shoes, the computer I use to backup my evidence, I would have a camera aimed at that computer and it emailed its pictures to an online email account so they can't steal your evidence of them breaking in.

    Be paranoid. It's better than being dead. Also if your paranoia bears fruit, it could be useful for all those that are harassed by the cult.
  32. Anonymous Member

    re: Marc Headley's Lawyer gets his lug nuts sabotaged!

    Why? Why would you want that?

    [IMG]
  33. xenubarb Member

    re: Marc Headley's Lawyer gets his lug nuts sabotaged!

    The time to plant misinformation is when you have their attention.

    Seems you have it. It's spring, start planting!

    (tee hee)
  34. Anonymous Member

    re: Marc Headley's Lawyer gets his lug nuts sabotaged!

    Be careful and calm. It's better than being paranoid.
  35. RightOn Member

    re: Marc Headley's Lawyer gets his lug nuts sabotaged!

    Keep an eye at ALL times, be aware of your surroundings.
    That guy near your car should have been filmed.
    Protect yourself and your family. Hire some PI's yourself
  36. The Shadow Member

    re: Marc Headley's Lawyer gets his lug nuts sabotaged!

    Looks like Marc needs some extra-special help:

    lolraz.jpg
  37. Anonymous Member

    re: Marc Headley's Lawyer gets his lug nuts sabotaged!

    Be reasonably paranoid.
  38. Anonymous Member

    re: Marc Headley's Lawyer gets his lug nuts sabotaged!

    I'd love to see footage from hidden cameras for no other reason than the brick sitting and media field day.


    Stay safe, Marc. I'm sending good thoughts to you, your family, and everyone involved. This is a powerful case and they're terrified of losing it. I just have to say though, it couldn't have happened to a family with bigger balls. You're paving the way, don't ever give up!
  39. Krautfag Member

    re: Marc Headley's Lawyer gets his lug nuts sabotaged!

    Huh, wut?

    Have mercy on those of foreign tongue like myself and elaborate, I don't get it.
  40. LarryBren Member

    re: Marc Headley's Lawyer gets his lug nuts sabotaged!

    I could hazard a guess as to why on this one.

    Might it be that these cases (Marc's, Claire's and Laura's) all run by Barry Van Sickle are a potential knock out blow to organized scientology as we know it? You know, the potential to end the Sea Org, staff life in the USA as they know it, the ability of Little Dickee to take almost all the orgs' money each week, the ability of organized scientology to hide abuses from the public behind religious cloaking and corporate veils, the ability of David Miscavige to run and abuse a worldwide network of virtual slaves?

    I could go on and on here but IMHO these cases have the potential to rock David Miscavige's world of lies and abuse even more than losing tax exempt status from the IRS, the French fraud case, etc.

    Since 1981 I have seen Miscavige go ape shit over nothing at all. For example horribly abusing someone who did nothing wrong at all or seeing so much as a "downstat" as a "willful attack" on Miscavige and/or Hubbard. Or dreaming up all kinds of evil motivations for people just trying to get out the truth. Imagine how nutty he can go when there is a real threat of him losing power.

    My guess here? The dwarf sees the potential end of his reign in these suits and what can follow these suits and he is going even more bat shit crazy to stop them than he normally is (which is saying A LOT).

    I have read like others on here how some of the GO folks met and actually considered killing Paulette Cooper for "the greatest good" and then at least took actions to try to get her imprisoned or to kill herself. I've known some of those people and, as nutty as they were, they are NOTHING compared to David Miscavige on the "Fujita Nutball Scale" where Miscavige is a raving F5.

    Are the two examples listed of the lug nuts and report to child care examples of OSA fair game dirty tricks? Of course I do not know but in this case I honestly suspect they are. I have seen Miscavige carry out dirty tricks before and these are nothing compared to what I know him to be able to do.

    As far as I am concerned, I am 100% with Barry, Marc, Claire and Laura on all this and will do whatever I can to support them. (And this includes moral support right now when their lives (as in the car example) may be at risk and their family is under attack (as in the complaint to child services re Marc's and Claire's children)).

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