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MARCAB INVASION II - SAN DIEGO COMIC-CON 2009

Discussion in 'Finished Projects' started by Anonagi, May 23, 2009.

  1. Anonymous Member

    Re: MARCAB INVASION II - SAN DIEGO COMIC-CON 2009

    I have to agree. I kept waiting for the epic to happen, and was available to assist with the epic...and all I saw was cards on a table inside with thousands of other cards for different things...And a few times people out front passing out cards and fliers.

    What did I miss?
  2. Anonagi Member

    Re: MARCAB INVASION II - SAN DIEGO COMIC-CON 2009

    What some people don't get and what we learned last year is that while comic-con is huge, there are very strict guidelines as to what we can and cannot do once at the convention. Anything that the convention organizers feel is out of line, and everything gets pulled, including all the money going to waste.

    We cannot hand out stuff on convention grounds. Comic-Con staff and security made it very clear that if we were caught handing stuff out on convention center property (and this includes dropping YFTC's in the bathrooms or the usual stuff we do) that we would be escorted off the grounds, have our badges confiscated, possibly get arrested by the harbor police, and have the cards at the freebie table removed.

    We did everything we could last year to reach the public, and we're doing more this year with the ad placement.

    The only way we'd get more people interested is with a booth, but the money spent on a booth is better spent on advertising the way we did this year and will do this year.
  3. Anonymous Member

    Re: MARCAB INVASION II - SAN DIEGO COMIC-CON 2009

    See..none of this is epic. It is a regular raid...where one passes out fliers on the street. Which is good, but nothing special. Several of us going can go in. perhaps we can all dress the same and travel in a pack...which gets attention and people asking to take pics. Or something along those lines.

    People are already having fliers and shit shoved in their face the entire time...they shut it down.

    I know I do.
  4. Anonymous Member

    Re: MARCAB INVASION II - SAN DIEGO COMIC-CON 2009

    ITT: A bunch of faggots who haven't talked to Comic-Con staff trying to tell those who have what should happen..... without knowing the rules of the game.
    Which you all just lost!

    Srsly though, getting us b& by Comic-Con staff isn't going to help things. Lets play nice with the people in charge and follow the rules they set huh?
  5. nightfire Member

    Re: MARCAB INVASION II - SAN DIEGO COMIC-CON 2009

    what isn't Win about stuff on the freebie table, A FULL PAGE AD! and being able to flier outside???

    What more do you want for $2,000?
  6. Anonymous Member

    Re: MARCAB INVASION II - SAN DIEGO COMIC-CON 2009

    I have been to Comic con for many years. I am well aware of the rules and what can get one kicked out...including passing out fliers inside...which is why I never suggested something like that, which could get one kicked out.

    But a small ad in a magazine in a bag with tons of crap is a lot of money for something most people will chuck out or not notice. People at comic con get a TON of crap.

    Getting an ad, putting cards on the table and especially handing out fliers and cards outside are all good. (this was one to one communication with masks on...so people were more likely to remember it)

    But cards on a table or or an ad will not be remembered.
    You must think outside the box, here.
  7. RandomFace Member

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    and dont forget we also do a all night raid at least one of the nights.
    good times are to be had
  8. Anonymous Member

    Re: MARCAB INVASION II - SAN DIEGO COMIC-CON 2009

    This^^^^^

    Especially if by where con goers are about

    (the SD org is lame and off the beaten path)
  9. Anonymous Member

    Re: MARCAB INVASION II - SAN DIEGO COMIC-CON 2009

    OH RIGHT! YOU CAN DO IT BETTER...

    Then DO it faggot!

    Tell us your amazing plan...
  10. Anonymous Member

    Re: MARCAB INVASION II - SAN DIEGO COMIC-CON 2009

    I never claimed to have a plan, but if you cannot listen to legitimate criticism without resorting to NO U, then you have thin skin.

    I was disappointed in last year's raid, and want to prevent a repeat. We we're all told it would be EPIC, and it was not. I asked to help before and during, and the cell was too disorganized to get their act together to get back to me. Perhaps this year will be different.
  11. Anonagi Member

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    If you think people as steeped in the geek culture as the ones who go to Comic-Con aren't receptive to getting viral marketing, then I seriously doubt you've ever been to Comic-Con.

    If you're out front wearing a Scientology Kills shirt and handing out anti-scilon shit then of COURSE people will ignore you and it's no different than an actual raid. There are plenty of religious and political and activist whackos outside the convention.

    This is why you hand out YFTC's while wearing a guy fawkes mask instead - because it's viral and people are interested. This is why it went so well last year. Ask anyone who handed out cards last year - they spent about half the time posing for pictures and answering questions as they did handing out cards.

    People at comic-con are alot more receptive if you play it right than passerby on the street during a typical raid.

    Now as far as how you can promote stuff inside the con if you aren't a vendor, according to Con security and staff, you can wear a shirt that says anything you like. "Marvel Sucks" "Republicans are evil" etc. But beyond that, on convention center grounds you cannot promote an activist cause, which is what YFTC is.

    We came up with YouFoundTheComic specifically to counter this and spread the word to people at Comic-Con.

    We can promote a comic promoting the cause, but we cannot promote the cause itself.

    Alot of people decided not to donate or help out last year because it didn't fit the same definition of epic as what happens at raids. This is true - I'll be the first to admit it.

    Outside the con, we can attract all the attention we want. Inside the convention, we can't attract any attention.

    This comes straight from CCI staff and the people that helped me out last year had their neck on the line when Scientology did everything they could to get the cards pulled.

    Do you want to reach people, or do you want to be an attention whore?

    There's no reason you can't do both :D

    This was a huge issue last year. I'm not trying to say that there shouldn't be raids at CCI or the org downtown while we're there or walking around in suits and guy fawkes masks inside the convention. (Guy fawkes masks are everywhere because they're a cheap accessory to the festivities of the con.)

    Do whatever you want inside or outside the con - just please don't do anything that jeapordizes what we have going on inside the convention in the form of the cards and the ad. Fair enough?

    Handing out YFTC's or actively raiding just like a normal global ON CONVENTION GROUNDS jeapordizes that. Three if us almost ended up in the back of a cop car and the cards nearly got pulled before the convention officially started specifically because of this.

    One of the reasons we do the cards and are doing the ad is specifically because things never go to plan the way you expect them to - it takes care of itself nearly independant of what other people decide to do or not.

    I'm at Comic-Con - I'm glad to pass out cards, but if anyone thinks I'm not going to have fun at the convention, they're crazy and I would expect the same of anyone else who has a membership.

    Just help out with passing out cards if you can and want to, but if you do, it has to be according to the rules (Not rules I made up to be an ass, but rules that are from Comic-Con staff, convention center security, and the SDPD and Harbor Police.)
  12. Anonymous Member

    Re: MARCAB INVASION II - SAN DIEGO COMIC-CON 2009

    Operative word is felt. You know Snake was there, handing out YFTC's outside of the convention hall. And from that perspective? Yes, it felt like a big waste of time.
  13. Anonymous Member

    Re: MARCAB INVASION II - SAN DIEGO COMIC-CON 2009

    LOL legitimate criticism

    Helpful: Hey have you guys thought of X, Y, or Z instead of or in addition to what you are planning, cause that would be cool. Also, B and C of your plan SUCK why not try D and E modifications? Also, Point F is just a waste and faggy imo, but maybe G is less faggy...

    Bawwwing Faggotry: I don't like how it went last year, my ego wasn't stroked enough... I have no real helpful suggestions or constructive criticism... I just want to baw about how I could do it better, but I won't get off my ass to plan anything, or think up anything I just like to bawwwwww.

    see the difference? One makes the raid better, then other is faggotry. Real criticism is encouraged.
  14. Anonymous Member

    Re: MARCAB INVASION II - SAN DIEGO COMIC-CON 2009

    LEGITIMATE ADVICE: Get your shit together enough to organize the incoming anons that are traveling to help out.
  15. Anonymous Member

    Re: MARCAB INVASION II - SAN DIEGO COMIC-CON 2009

    There was that so hard? THAT is legitimate advice and criticism!!
    Anonagi... your response?
  16. Anonymous Member

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    I don't do that. I don't know why you assume that. HBO did great viral marketing last year for TrueBlood. We don't have the budget for what they did, but I am sure something cool could be done with a smaller budget.

    STICKING CARDS ON A TABLE is not viral marketing. Nor is putting an ad in a catalog. If you are planning something else, and just not mentioning it, then ok.


    I am not OG. I own no such shirt.

    Which is EXACTLY what I did last year. Right near the entrance to the Gaslamp. I did not see you the entire comic con, even though I know you were there.


    Again, no one has suggested ANYTHING that would get people kicked out. I mentioned people dressed the same walking together in a pack. That will get people taking pics and is not frowned upon. Just have to dress in a funny or interesting manner.


    I have no idea why you keep repeating this. No one has suggested this.


    I support the ad and the cards. But the ad will be ignored my most people. You know it is true. The cards on the table are ok. But as I said before, the people outside the con make the biggest impression..because they are real and can talk and be funny.
  17. nightfire Member

    Re: MARCAB INVASION II - SAN DIEGO COMIC-CON 2009

    Sounds like you should organize a flash mob of Black suit anons to wander around and get their pic taken...

    I like it! SO Anonymous, how many would you like, what dress (since we should all look alike) and where-when should we meet
  18. Anonagi Member

    Re: MARCAB INVASION II - SAN DIEGO COMIC-CON 2009

    I honestly don't know what else Snake or anyone who felt like it was fail could have expected, then.

    It's not as fun as stepping out on a bridge with the Shoop megaphone and chanting "DAVID MISCAVIGE BEATS HIS STAFF" or dancing with music or getting into it with a handler. It was never supposed to be, and it was never represented as such.

    The plans were public for weeks and hammered out before the convention. We would have loved to had skywriting, a banner plane, an ad truck, billboard, etc, but ultimately it would have reached less people and cost more money than what was in the budget. Yes, we looked into all these options.

    Give us $15,000 instead of $1,500 and I guarantee you we'd be able to do more.

    Everyone involved got into several arguments in the months and weeks before regarding how they felt it should have been done, how it should have gone this way, how we should have done this, etc.

    People know what we're doing this year like they did last year. If they agree with it what we're doing with the money and think it's a good idea then they'll pitch in financially. If they agree that getting a group to hand out ten thousand business cards outside the con is a good idea, they'll help. If they don't think either is a good idea, they won't do either. That's fine, it's the way ideas get pruned into epic and stupid.

    As far as organizing so out of town anons can help or do something, I'm all for it, considering that yes, we were a bit lacking in that regard last year. I'd love to be part of stuff outside the con, if anyone else wants to organize raids off convention center property beyond handing stuff out by the trolley station like we did last year.

    The convention is two months away - we have alot of time to plan that specific aspect.

    And my response? Why should it fall on me to organize it? If you felt I did a fail job at that last year, then feel free to organize it instead. I didn't even organize half of that last year because I was running around like a chicken with my head cut off to keep the cards from getting pulled. Other anons organized the raid on the Org, I had nothing to do with it.
  19. Anonymous Member

    Re: MARCAB INVASION II - SAN DIEGO COMIC-CON 2009

    Not being used as booth babes?
  20. Anonymous Member

    Re: MARCAB INVASION II - SAN DIEGO COMIC-CON 2009

    This is a complaint? I thought you'd WANT to be a booth babe.
  21. Anonymous Member

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    Only if it means I get to sit on your lap.
  22. Anonymous Member

    Re: MARCAB INVASION II - SAN DIEGO COMIC-CON 2009

    ALL RIGHT!
    GOD DAMN CRANKY BABIES!

    Stop whining and lets get to planning this viral anon mob...

    How often should this happen? (once the whole con, once a day, every few hours..what?)

    How many anons? How many groups of anons? Many groups or one big one?

    What to wear? (I'm such a girl about these things)

    When would the organizer like confirmation of attendance by?

    WHO would like to Organize this shit?
  23. Anonymous Member

    Re: MARCAB INVASION II - SAN DIEGO COMIC-CON 2009

    tl;dr: Let the ad and cards take care of the inside. Don't protest there, don't put cards there yourself, but feel free to wear a V mask around the convention.

    The people want to party harder outside the convention - well, start planning it - just don't jeaopardize the inside.
  24. nightfire Member

    Re: MARCAB INVASION II - SAN DIEGO COMIC-CON 2009

    I don't see how a mob of masked anons walking through the Con would jepordize anything... esp if ALL they did was walk, and get their pics taken.
  25. Anonymous Member

    Re: MARCAB INVASION II - SAN DIEGO COMIC-CON 2009

    no one has suggested protesting inside the con.

    Walking around like Guy Fawkes is not protesting


    Hanging around the Galaxy Press booth dressed like that could get one in trouble...which is why I also dod not suggest that
  26. Anonagi Member

    Re: MARCAB INVASION II - SAN DIEGO COMIC-CON 2009

    "Okay Snake, glad you're here! We have a zipline rigged from the Marriot to the convention center roof. We're going to send you down it while blasting Rick Astley music while you leaflet bomb the traffic intersection."

    If someone dresses up as a bee with glitter we'll find a way to make it happen :D

    People that came down and wanted to help KNEW they were going to be handing out cards at the trolley station and north by the Marriot and along the registration line. This was made public WEEKS in advance. The ONLY thing that changed was that we weren't allowed to pass stuff out in the registration line, a fact that was learned and passed on before the con even started.

    Unless these people were living under a rock the week before the convention I don't know what to say.

    TL;DR - I suck cocks. :D

    Anyway, back on target - I don't want to see this get domed or have infractions passed out :D

    Thanks to everyone who donated so far! We're working on a design for the ad.
  27. nightfire Member

    Re: MARCAB INVASION II - SAN DIEGO COMIC-CON 2009

    CHILDREN STFU
    Stop fighting about last year... start planning this year! Srsly! back on target!

    1. How Often do we want the groups to wander through con?

    2. Do we want 1 group, 2 groups... how many anons to a group

    3. WHAT TO WEAR!!!! (this is VERY IMPORTANT!)

    5. Name Tags w/ Anonymous.. or David?

    6. Completely silent anons, or do we want canned responses to questions (like who are you guys?)
  28. Anonymous Member

    Re: MARCAB INVASION II - SAN DIEGO COMIC-CON 2009


    Well...anons weren't there (at the trolley area) 24/7...so it would have been nice to know when people were meeting to hand out cards. I could not get a hold of anyone Saturday of the con. And I tried. I only found out one handing out of cards by accident. And did so.

    So for this year...we need planning like a twitter feed please...so I can know when I am done with a lecture...that there are anons outside to join.

    An updated Twitter feed would have made all the difference last year, and consider last year a learning experience.
  29. nightfire Member

    Re: MARCAB INVASION II - SAN DIEGO COMIC-CON 2009

    OOoo Private twitter... GOOD IDEA!!!
  30. Haruhi Member

    Re: MARCAB INVASION II - SAN DIEGO COMIC-CON 2009

    Let's get AO on this, stat.

    Also, I will not dome this thread, but stop acting like cocks.
  31. Anonymous Member

    Re: MARCAB INVASION II - SAN DIEGO COMIC-CON 2009

    AO would totally love to run this. Maybe he can bring his stockings and speedo number down to San Diego!

    (brb...vomiting)
  32. Anonymous Member

    Re: MARCAB INVASION II - SAN DIEGO COMIC-CON 2009

    Are you guise only producing the tentacle raep pron comic, or will you also be selling other themes?

    FWIW I think that the tentacle pron theme is a little OTT, as you are cutting out a hueg chunk of your makretplace (all the under 18s) as I doubt Comic Con will let you sell pron to minors (well, not at the convention, lolz)

    And if you go ahead with the prons theme, I expect lots of hardcore David Miscavige / Tom Cruise / Ken Moxon three way actionz ;)
  33. Haruhi Member

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    It'll sell to the Twilight crowd, at least.
  34. Anonymous Member

    Re: MARCAB INVASION II - SAN DIEGO COMIC-CON 2009

    Oh Fuck...I forgot about them. If the con could just put all the anime and Twilight stuff in one area so that I wouldn't have to walk through it...my life would be perfect.
  35. Vir Member

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    The YouFoundTheComic is rated PG, so only safe matrial is allowed there, but if you want to make comics with a more "adult content" I'm sure we can find an outlet for that too. For example, the comic conventions in Japan are more open for that. Get in touch with Japan anons. Note that Japan has requirements about such content, which you'll have to follow.
    Japan anons are planning to put out a Japanese edition of YouFoundTheComic. There is no "adult" version currently planned, but if there is content for it, I guess somebody might get it printed.
    YouFoundTheEcchi?
  36. Haruhi Member

    Re: MARCAB INVASION II - SAN DIEGO COMIC-CON 2009

    YouFoundTheDoujin
  37. Anonymous Member

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  38. nightfire Member

    Re: MARCAB INVASION II - SAN DIEGO COMIC-CON 2009

    ok, since no one wants to make decisions...

    Anons in the Anon walking mob should wear black suits, white shirts, red ties, and either a green hood or GF mask. Femanons can choose either slacks, or a skirt as long as it looks srs bsn. Also plain black closed toe 2-3 inch pumps (if you are doing the skirt thing)

    I'm thinking one large mob of anons that wanders through Con 3-4 times a day would be perfect. (easy to organize, and won't take away from playing at the Con)

    A twitter for a call to group up, and organize.

    I'm undecided about either completely silent anons, or casually chatty anons...
  39. Anonymous Member

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    This could work...just need to find all anons that can do this, to get an idea of how big the mob can be. When the mob call appears, not all can join. Some will be busy..others will be free. But everyone could make at least a few of the calls.
  40. RandomFace Member

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    we have MONTHS to figure out what the anons are doing outside the con. no point in trying to figure it out now and give scilons all the time in the world to figure out how to fuck it all up. so please dont start making any plans quite yet. everything else is being handled, and no reason for anyone to get all high and mighty and start making decisions without even talking to the anons that are actually going to be there.
    but on a side note. any and all out of town anons are welcome to join us. the more people the more we can do.

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