Marty says Scientology Ordered Ciancio Killed

Discussion in 'Leaks & Legal' started by tikk, Mar 9, 2011.

  1. Random guy Member

    That's quite likely. The police are all "dox or GTFO" when it comes to murder.
  2. let's hear it from the man himself you bunch of tinfoil wearing, crosseyed fairies

  3. Anonymous Member

    Probably the same way some of the less informed (yet multitudinous) members of Anonymous, having never been involved with the CofS/Scientology, get their concrete evidence.

    They were told, they were told!
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  4. Avro Arrow Member

    Not to interrupt the CoS apologetics, but is this statement something new?

  5. OTBT Member

  6. No, of course you didn't, Marty, you loon. You just heavily insinuated he did, and didn't bother to stop to correct your sycophantic followers, most of whom thought exactly the same thing.
  7. Anonymous Member

    scientologists, the great communicators
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  8. Anonymous Member

    Lol at Marty's all-caps post. All his drama over the past few years has been one of the most entertaining parts of this whole thing. What a nutbar.
  9. Optimisticate Member

    I have no idea wtf any of that says. It's just not normal. Like I should be talking, but still, just frikkin weird.
  10. Xenu Is Lord Member

    So it is a miracle to commit a crime and get away with it? Ron could hide himself in pane site huh? What about when he was convicted for check fraud?
  11. Anonymous Member

    go away, marty.
    your routine is as old and tired as you are.
  12. Anonymous Member

    marty, can you and dave just go hug it out?
    seriously. apply some ARC and resolve this shit.
    tommy davis can be your cherry on top.
  13. willhaven720 Member

    What a dipshit attn whore.
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  14. Anonymous Member

    they're all a bunch of fucking douchebags.

    just stating the painfully obvious, for the record.
  15. willhaven720 Member

    Just sayin...
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  16. OTBT Member

    Marty tries to make the scientology term "terminatedly handle" sound scary, ominous, or
    threatening. It is no such thing. "Terminatedly handle" is an ordinary term in PTS handlings.

    For noobs, here is an oversimplified explanation.

    PTS = Potential trouble Source, someone who is getting criticised for being a Scientologist
    SP = Suppressive person, someone who criticises Scientology

    Handling a PTS person means fixing up someone who is connected to an SP
    Handling an SP means getting the Suppressive Person to stop criticising Scientology and Scientologists

    "Terminatedly handle any PTS person or SP" simply means to get the Suppressive Person to stop
    criticising the PTS Scientologist and Scientology.

    If that cannot be done, if the SP won't stop criticising, then the PTS person must disconnect
    from the Suppressive Person, cutting off all communication.

    PTS/SP Course checksheet, which trains someone how to handle PTSes and SPs per scientology tech:



    Rex Fowler was in the process of "terminatedly handling" Thomas Ciancio by giving him his
    severance check, effectively cutting off his connection after that. Shooting him in the head 3
    times is not Scientology PTS tech. In no way am I defending scientology "tech", I'm just saying
    that Marty is trying make something scary when it's not.

    Also, disconnection is in reality rather rare in Scientology. "Handling" critics is the preferred tech.
    Disconnection is the last resort, when all earlier attempts fail.

    Anyway, I'll shut up about this now, done ranting on this point.
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  17. Smurf Member

    I've posted alot of dox about this in the past. In a nutshell, a 4th generation Scientologist and openly gay man, Keith Relkin started a Yahoo! group titled the "Clear Rainbow Group" which was intended as an outreach & recruiting tool for gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgender Scilons & their friends. Rex Fowler was a member of the group & posted as "OT Cowboy". Relkin claims he received authorization to form the group from his org supervisors. When DM caught wind of it, he put an immediate stop to it.
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  18. Nancy Beazley Member

    Whoa! So are you saying Rex Fowler was a gay married Scientologist? Or are you saying he was a Scientologist who was supportive of gay / lesbian / bisexual and transgenders?

    How do you know Rex Fowler posted there?
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  19. Smurf Member

    Rex was a straight, gay-friendly Scientologist. He was good friends with an ex-Scilon friend of mine who goes by the name of "Alexm". They were both members of this group and were disciplined over it. 'Alexm' appeared in a German documentary alongside Marc Headley 2 years ago. He remains anonymous because he has family still in the cult.

    This is him: I also spoke to Keith and he confirmed it.
  20. Nancy Beazley Member

    This puts Rex Fowler in a whole new light, for me. Standing up for gay rights, as a hard-core Scientologist during that time, took a lot of guts. Hmmmm.
  21. Nancy Beazley Member

    Thanks, Smurf. I didn't know any of that.

    I also just found the following comment on Marty's blog, which I hadn't looked at before; nor had I realized he had mentioned there Rex's support of the gay community:

    Margaret | March 10, 2011 at 11:01 pm | Reply

    I had personal conversations by email with Rex on this matter, and I will vouch for the accuracy of Marty’s statement. Rex Fowler did indeed contribute to the ongoing creation of a Gay Scientologist community on the net. I will also say that I have personal knowledge that it was OSA that put the kabosh on it in 2006.
  22. Anonymous Member

    And then he shot a guy three times. Don't go all mushy for him yet.
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  23. Smurf Member

    Why? Marty's a fucking liar. He knows withholding evidence in a criminal matter while it's in an investigation phase is a felony. Fowler's conviction & imprisonment doesn't exempt Marty's exposure to prosecution for this. I suspect law enforcement won't pursue it because they see Marty as a deranged, alcoholic wingnut.

    He's, obviously, trying stir up the emotions of the Ciancio family so they'll go after Scientology.
  24. Anonymous Member

    ^^ This!!
  25. Smurf Member

    Rex probably did it for other reasons. He, evidently, was not too happy about his son being booted from the Sea Org.
  26. Anonymous Member

    Because he was Asian and not shorter than Miscavige?
  27. Anonymous Member

    You funny man.

  28. Anonymous Member

    haha! bring the lulz.
    it's the medicine that cures faggotry.
    that's right. fight faggotry with faggotry!
  29. Anonymous Member

    I like you.
  30. Anonymous Member

    Unlikely. The FBI knows this type of shit exists.
  31. Ann O'Nymous Member

    - Is there a connection ?
    - Any info about the booting ?
  32. Anonymous Member

    DM reads Marty's blogs?

    If the mental and physical midget had any sense, he would go legit with the cult and save himself from the inevitable. The guy has all the money anyone could ever want. I'll never understand people's lust for power. Even if he went legit with the cult, he'd still have political influence just like the Catholic Church.
  33. Anonymous Member

    FBI already has lots of dox on Scientology.

    Heavily censored FOI dox from the FBI investigation of Scientology a few decades ago:
  34. Anonymous Member

    I know, they have been well aware of sci activities for about 60 years now. Which is why I say they wouldn't call tin foil on anything that goes on in that cult.
  35. Anonymous Member

  36. pedrofcuk Member

    In scilon-speak, terminatedly handle does not mean kill or murder, it simply means to solve the problem once and for all so it does not come back to bite you in the ass, ever. I suppose murdering the problem fits the definition but this is not usual even for scilons.
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  37. Anonymous Member

    Why I protest ^
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  38. Anonymous Member

    Terminatedly Handle from the FBI DOX:

  39. Anonymous Member

    I didn't know that. How many times has this been done?

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