your admiration for this cultist who has got a lot of people into the cult and who heads up the COS front group the Hero Fund and who has given millions to the cult over the years, lost his son due to the cult (this is IMO), and continues to disseminate for COS is utterly grotesque. Travolta also headed up Narconon in Hawaii years ago. What part of John Travolta is a COS dissemintaing tool who continues to hurt people do you fail to understand? He flew VM's to Haiti, and recently raised $300,000 in Vegas so that firefighters, cops and vets can go through the purif. This is not a good thing. Get it? Anyone who takes statins can be at a huge risk for a heart attack when ingesting doses of niacin on the purif. It's a brand new study. Many idiots will NOT do their homework before doing the purif. And they will do it just because they feel "well if Travolta is endorsing it, it must be great" When willl you stop defending Travolta? When someone dies on the purif in Utah? or maybe you just like him even more now because he named that new front group the "Hero Fund" lol
I didn't know that making fun of moonbats for buying into tabloid bullshit was indicative of admiration for Travolta. And I certainly didn't know it meant I was defending Travolta. Or am I just a suppressive person for not backing a load of horseshit you wish were true?
you have been defending Travolta for EVER Every time something is written about him you zoom into the thread and defend him. Tabloid shit aside, all the stuff I mentioned that he is responisble for is not tabloid shit. Whether he is a Spa dog or not does not factor into the crap he does for the cult. Although it does add to the lulz if his "I am straight and not gay" show. Defending any Sci celeb that disseminates for the cult is wrong IMO. That's why I boycott all sci celebs.They will never get my support or money.
Are you talking all celebrities in general? or just sci celebrities? Because if you are talking Sci celebrities, then you obvioulsy don't understand the COS PR they put out and how powerful they have been over the years. Cruise and Travolta have been very serious and dangerous disseminators for the cult. Travolta with the purif and Cruise with Applied Scholastics. Lisa Marie Pressley with WISE, Nancy Cartwright with her "Happy House" TWTH and so on....
What does any of that have to do with bullshit tabloid rumors about travolta being gay and moonbats running with it?
Celebrities in general. But this shit about gay-or-not Travolta is retarded. It's not helping bring scientology down, and it's just plain stupid.
PLENTY You defend Travolta every chance you get. No matter what. Like I said.... to defend anyone who is responsible for cult dissemination is wrong. IMO And while you mention it.....you are calling it "bullshit tabloid rumors" about Travolta being gay. So ALL those people for so many years now that have all been saying he is gay, are all lieing too? The kiss with the guy on the airplane steps? Untrained "mannies" taking care of his late son? And one of them who just happned to be the same guy he was kissing? Wake up man. Carie Fisher is a bit of a moonbat yes, but I would believe her over the "Travolta Fairy Tales" any day. Her saying that he is gay and everyone knows it... that I can believe. What I don't understand is Travolta's "happy marraige" to Kelly or all the unanswered questions surrounding his son's death. also.. one more thing let me clarify.... It's not the fact that he is gay that bothers me one iota. I could care less. I have NOTHING against any gays, just the opposite. It's the fact that he is in COS and COS is anti gay AND that he is one big fat liar about EVERYTHING.
surely you jest Do you not understand how COS feels about gays? Have you read the entry in Dianetics? Do you know what Hubbard's views/writings were on gays? You see if Travolta stands behind Scientology, and COS is very anti gay...... there is a problem. get it?
So, if a prominent scientologist turns out to be gay... then the cult claims that it's not homophobic. Do you honestly think they're going to expel one of their biggest cash cows over this?
you said talking about Travolta being gay doesn't matter more or less and who cares right? well....COS is totally anti gay and Travolta disseminates for them. Therefore if he comes out, it will cause many in the fold to have major doubts. It also goes agaisnt Source, (LRH) and his fairy tale life will be exposed for what it really is. COS will look the other way if you are a cash cow and gay, they are just friendly like that. Money talks, bullshit walks
You're assuming scientology members know about all the anti-gay stuff? Many members are woefully ignorant of some of LRH's comments and writings about these subjects. It's not going to be a major deal whether he's gay or not. 1 Travolta is worth 100 public in $cientology's eyes, anyways.
Until there's something other than tabloid rumors, yeah, it's all bullshit. You want Travolta to be gay because you hate him. You want him to be a huge hypocrite because it will help to justify your hatred of him. I don't care if he's gay. But I find it hilarious how much bullshit you're willing to believe. If you weren't such an obsessed zealot you'd see how ridiculous you sound. All of your anger here seems to be based upon the notion that he's gay and thus a huge hypocrite. However there's no reliable evidence that he's gay. No rational reason to believe he's gay. I think this line sums up your rediculous outlook on this whole situation perfectly: You have no proof he's a big fat liar and yet you're furious at him for being a big fat liar. Ok. If you want to believe he's gay, good for you. But don't get all pissy when I or anyone calls you out for acting like a fucking moonbat.
LRH on gays: Dianetics Book 2, Chapter 5, Page 120 says, in part: "The sexual pervert (and by this term Dianetics, to be brief, includes any and all forms of deviation in dynamic two such as homosexuality, lesbianism [sic], sexual sadism, etc., and all down the catalog of Ellis and Krafft-Ebing) is actually quite ill physically." One year later, in 1951, Hubbard published "Science of Survival: Prediction of Human Behavior." 2 One source has quoted excerpts from it. 3 Hubbard crated a "tone scale" which classifies individuals and human behavior. The scale runs from -3 to +4. He apparently rated gay and lesbian behavior at a 1.1. -- between "fear" (1.0) and "anger" (1.5). On this scale, -3 means death and +4 is the most positive rating attainable. 4 "In Page 89-90, he writes: "Such people should be taken from the society as rapidly as possible and uniformly institutionalized; for here is the level of the contagion of immorality, and the destruction of ethics...No social order which desires to survive dates overlook its stratum 1.1's. No social order will survive which does not remove these people from its midst." One of Hubbard's solutions to homosexuality was quarantine; the other was counseling with the goal of raising the individual's rating above 1.1: "The only answers would seem to be the permanent quarantine of such persons from society to avoid the contagion of their insanities and the general turbulence which they bring to any order, thus forcing it lower on the scale, or processing such persons until they have attained a level on the tone scale which gives them value." 5 So if Travolta is gay or not... to stand behind COS in his line of work is ridiculous. And if he is gay, it is even more ridiculous
You don't get what I'm saying. Not everybody who follows the Bible advocates slavery and killing people in floods. I'm sure there are many scientologists who couldn't give a fuck what Travolta's sexuality is. The church supporting his homosexuality would be more helpful to scientology than hurtful to it.
I am a fucking moonbat? mkay! lol!! First off, I have the right to believe what I want, and my anger towards him is because he disseminates for COS. I used to like Travolta WAY back when, until I found out he was disseminating for COS. The fact that he is gay does not matter to me personally as far as his choice of sexual partner. But to disseminate for a cult that is anti gay and pretend that you are happliy married because you are in the cult is WRONG. Proof? The proof for me is the many people coming forward saying he is gay. The proof is the picture of him on the steps with that guy and his publiscist's explanation was" John does that to everybody". And also that he had untrained mannies who were taking care of his very ill, now dead child. Again, one of these guys was in a lip lock with Travolta in that picture. That's my proof.
I know what you are saying. But the church can not support his sexuality because of Hubbard's writings. Scientologists do not go against Hubbard's words. I am sure there are those who "chery pick" (publics only, not staff or Sea Org). And even if they do, they are not allowed to talk about it publically.
I know. And this is why you're acting like a moonbat. Like I said, don't get mad for being called out.
Herro I am not mad and I am not a moonbat. sorry to dissapoint you oh and one more thing I think the consensus of most anti COS people would agree that Travolta is a disseminating COS tool. oh yeah, and gay pretending to live on the DL. But everyone knows better. (Well most anyways)
Travolta's publicist's or representative's (or whatever) reply was "John does that to everybody" So they did not deny the picture. From Gawker: (this one the same line printed everywhere) In 2006, Kathrein and Travolta were caught by paparazzi locking lips. The Travolta camp's official explanation: "Why, John kisses everyone like that! " then of course in 2007, they put out the picture of Travolta kissing Kirt Douglas on the lips. To me it was an obvious "see I do this to everyone" kiss.
LOL. the weird irony is that in many instances, the trashy tabloid "The National Enquirer" has actually been the first to break sordid stories that seemed so utterly unbelievable. For example, take the whole Gov. Ahnuld story, turns out that that rag was eeking out stories about it years before the whole thing came to a head.
They deny Hubbard's writings all the time, when it's convenient for them. That's why they still deny the Xenu story, and why they let the NOI in, even though Hubbard was a racist. They'd have no problem ignoring his homophobia for a long-time, high-paying member.
