Murder at Scientology HQ in Australia, January 2019

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  1. The Wrong Guy Member

    One dead in stabbing at Scientology’s Australian ‘Advanced Org,’ 16-year-old taken into custody

    By Tony Ortega, The Underground Bunker

    Our first instinct when we heard the news breaking out of Sydney that two men had been stabbed at Scientology’s Advanced Org, one fatally, was to contact journalist Bryan Seymour to see if he had any inside information about what was going on. But Bryan is here in New York on vacation at the moment — we just spent time with him here yesterday. However, he tells us his newsroom back at home is on the case and he’ll get us an update as soon as he hears something.

    At this point, we haven’t learned much more than what was first reported, that a 16-year-old boy was taken into custody for allegedly stabbing two men, apparently on the grounds of the Advanced Org in Chatswood, a Sydney suburb. The Advanced Org is where wealthy Scientologists go to receive upper-level auditing which can reach $1,000 an hour. It opened in September 2016, replacing another facility, and Seymour covered it for us live.

    We are still waiting for any details about who the assailant was, who the two victims were, whether any or all of them were Scientologists.

    UPDATE: Australian police are saying that the 16-year-old was on the grounds for “a legal reason”, but then was asked to leave. When he was being escorted out, he produced a knife and stabbed a 24-year-old Taiwanese man, a staff member of the facility, in the neck, who later died. An older man was also lacerated.

    The 16-year-old was also apparently involved in some kind of “domestic” incident yesterday that was in some way related.

    According to the Guardian: “Police said they believe the 16-year old had a family member who attended the church, and that that family member was there on the day.”

    We’ll add more details as soon as we get them.

    UPDATE: Still very preliminary, and we want to be careful about this. But so far, based on police statements, this was a 16-year-old child in a Scientology family who had some kind of “domestic” incident yesterday, and today was on the grounds of the AO where his family member apparently worked or was getting services. He was asked to leave the premises, and was being escorted off the grounds by two Sea Org workers when he pulled out a knife and stabbed one of them, a 24-year-old Taiwan national, in the neck, fatally. The other SO worker, approximately 40 years old, also received some lacerations.

    And yes, we have to agree with Observer: Getting an Elli Perkins vibe here.

    More details when they come.

    One question we haven’t seen the press bring up yet. Is it unusual for the AO to have a Taiwanese national on staff? No, not at all. Scientology is dying in Australia, and so they have had to import a lot of Taiwanese workers to keep the facilities there staffed.

    What is unusual is that any activity happened at the AO at all. Scientology spent something like $40 million to turn a former national acoustics lab into its new Advanced Org that would serve Australia, New Zealand, and Asia. But even in its own planning papers it admitted that traffic at the facility would be light. And we would be surprised if at any time there were more than a couple dozen people — workers and Scientologists there to get services — on the campus at any one time.

    Opening the AO in such a vast, lavish facility was purely for show, another part of David Miscavige’s attempt to convince his wealthy donors that Scientology is actually booming, when it isn’t.

    None of that — the small number of people there, the presence of Taiwan nationals — may have had anything to do with today’s incident. We still are hoping to learn more about this Scientology family, what the “domestic incident” was about that happened the day before, and what the 16-year-old’s upset was about.

    UPDATE: The fatally stabbed Sea Org worker was a Taiwan national, and police say that the assailant was also of Asian descent and “might need an interpreter.” We still don’t know if the family member they had a “domestic” dispute with the day before was someone who was working at the Advanced Org or was getting services there. But this is not the first time that the Scientology facilities in Sydney had problems from their tendency to bring people in from Taiwan.

    Steve Cannane in 2013 covered the case of Alice Wu, a woman who claimed she had been trafficked from Taiwan to a Scientology center in Sydney, and who ended up having a mental breakdown.

    We hope police in Australia are aware of this history and are asking pointed questions about all of the people involved in today’s incident about their association with the Scientology Advanced Org.

    Scientology statement: This very unfortunate matter is in the hands of the police. We cannot make any further comment beyond the fact that the victim was a beloved member of our Church. The Church is providing the police with any assistance needed @7NewsSydney
    — Bryan Seymour (@BryanSeymour1) January 3, 2019


    From confetti and pop songs to a grisly crime scene: Inside the Church of Scientology's sprawling $57 million headquarters - as it is marred by stabbing murder of worshipper just two years after opening
    • Church of Scientology's headquarters on Sydney's north shore was opened to great ceremony two years ago
    • But the 'perfectly perfect... beacon of freedom' was marred with blood, death and tragedy on Thursday
    • A man, 24, was fatally stabbed in the neck on the religious centre's sprawling grounds near Chatswood
    • He was a 'beloved' member of the Church of Scientology, a spokeswoman told Daily Mail Australia
    • NSW Police confirmed a boy, 16, has been arrested as investigations continue into the stabbing death

    Revealed: Teenager accused of slashing a 'beloved' scientologist's throat outside of the church's Sydney fortress with a kitchen knife 'was upset after a fight with his religious mother'
    • Teenager allegedly brought a kitchen knife with him to the Sydney headquarters
    • The 16-year-old was arrested over the alleged stabbing in Sydney on Thursday
    • Emergency services were called to the Church of Scientology headquarters
    • Two men rushed to a nearby hospital about 12.30pm, where one later died
  2. Mental health assessment for teen accused of fatal stabbing at Sydney Scientology church.

    SBS News: Mental health assessment for teen accused of fatal stabbing at Sydney Scientology church

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    A teenager undergoing a mental health assessment in a Sydney hospital is expected to be charged after a 24-year-old Church of Scientology member was fatally stabbed at the organisation's Australasian headquarters.

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  3. Teen accused of fatal Scientology stabbing opposed his mum undergoing ‘purification’

    Daily Telegraph: Teen accused of fatal Scientology stabbing opposed his mum undergoing ‘purification’

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    The teenager who allegedly went on a knife-wielding rampage at the Church of Scientology, stabbing one member fatally in the neck and slashing another, was trying to stop his mother undergoing an intense “purification” process that claims to rid the body of drugs and toxins to reach a spiritual high.

    The 16-year-old Chinese national, who was not a Church member, had begged his mother not to undergo the introductory Purification Rundown cleanse in an argument the night before, a source revealed.

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    The young man is currently undergoing a mental health assessment program at Sydney’s Royal North Shore Hospital before police will decide whether to charge him.

    “His mother was inside the building undergoing a purification process and was told not to go outside. The son was not a member of Scientology and wasn’t happy about the cleansing course,” a source said. “They had argued about it the night before.”

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    Sydney news: Scientology HQ in 'damage control' after fatal stabbing |


    A Scientology headquarters in Sydney has gone into "damage control" a day after a teenage boy allegedly slashed the throat of a church member who had tried to escort him out.

    The Church's $52-million Australasian headquarters in Chatswood was surrounded by extra security guards today after a boy allegedly stabbed two people about 12.30pm yesterday.

    A 24-year-old man from Taiwan died after being found with a serious wound to his neck.

    Another staff member, who also sustained injuries to his hands, was released from hospital today.

    The men were allegedly stabbed while trying to escort the young man from the premises. The incident is believed to be related to a family dispute.

    But for an organisation shrouded in secrecy it's attracted unwanted scrutiny.

    Former Scientologist Paul Schofield said the church would be in "total damage control" as Taiwanese members attract a significant amount of money to the religion.

    "It will be all about how they can spin this so that Scientology comes out, maybe not smelling like roses, but with the least amount of stink attached to it," Mr Schofield told 9News.

    The accused knifeman will undergo a mental health assessment.

    Police said a 20-25 centimetre knife was used in the incident before officers cornered the boy. He had allegedly argued with his family members inside the church before the driveway attack.

    “Police had to draw their taser but were not required to discharge the taser – he dropped the knife,” Detective Inspector Simon Jones said.

    The boy was led to a police car barefoot with paper bags over his hands.

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    Taiwanese boy, 16, accused of stabbing a 24-year-old man to death outside Australia's Scientology HQ 'was trying to stop his mother undergoing a purification ceremony'
    • Teenager is expected to be charged over stabbing at Scientology HQ in Sydney
    • The 16-year-old's mother was reportedly to undergo a ' purification ceremony'
    • Emergency services called to the Church of Scientology headquarters Thursday
    • Two men rushed to a nearby hospital about 12.30pm where one later died
    • The $57 million Scientology facility was opened just over two years ago
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    Teen charged over fatal stabbing at Scientology centre was visiting his mother | Sydney Morning Herald


    A teenager charged over the fatal stabbing of a Scientologist at the church's Sydney headquarters was trying to visit his mother who was undergoing a so-called purification ceremony, it has been revealed.

    The 16-year-old is undergoing a mental health assessment after allegedly attacking a 24-year-old Church of Scientology member on Thursday at the organisation's Australasian headquarters in Chatswood.

    The teenager, who police say also stabbed another man aged 30, was charged with murder, common assault (domestic violence), common assault, assault occasioning actual bodily harm and affray.

    The accused was visiting the centre where his mother was to undergo a "purification ceremony", it is understood.

    The deceased, a Taiwanese national, was stabbed in the neck while escorting the 16-year-old off the church grounds.

    It is understood the victim was a parishioner studying at the sprawling bush centre.

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    Teen charged with murder over Scientology stabbing |


    He is expected to face the Children’s Court on Saturday, also charged with common assault (DV), common assault, assault occasioning actual bodily harm and affray.

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    Scientologists told to seize on Australian stabbing death as a recruiting opportunity

    By Rod Keller, The Underground Bunker

    In the wake of the stabbing of two Scientologists in Sydney that left a Sea Org worker dead, Scientology has remained nearly silent on social media with its membership. According to policy, nobody can talk or know about the event except high level members of the Office of Special Affairs and the Ethics department. If they follow policy, Scientologists will never know the cause of the incident, that according to press reports so far it involved a son attempting to stop his mother from continuing on the Purification Rundown. Of course some members read the news, but it’s considered “entheta.”

    Entheta means “enturbulated theta,” theta being the life force that is one of the basic concepts in Scientology. Enturbulated is not a real word, but rather a Scientology shibboleth, a word used only by the group meaning in an agitated or disturbed state. Entheta is a danger to any Scientologist, and in particular to people at the AO after the event. Exposure to entheta is to be avoided at almost any cost.


    There was one directive given to Scientologists following the tragedy. In theory the only counter to entheta is theta, and the only way to increase theta is to increase Scientology activity. Scientologists are being urged to come in for their next step on the Bridge, and to bring in new people. A “selectee” is the Scientology term for a person brought into Scientology by an FSM, or Field Staff Member. Any Scientologist in good standing is an FSM.

    It all makes sense internally to a Scientologist that this is the correct response. To an outside observer it ignores the personal realities that one is dead, one is injured, one may face 20 years in prison, and one may lose her son forever. But it’s the nature and policies of Scientology that cause its members to be callous, indifferent and without compassion to the individual. The welfare of the group and protecting Scientology eclipses any concerns for people.

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    EXCLUSIVE: Scientology tells A&E it has ‘blood on its hands’ for murder in Australia

    By Tony Ortega, The Underground Bunker


    The Underground Bunker has obtained a copy of a letter that was sent by Scientology spokeswoman Karin Pouw to A&E network president Paul Buccieri, blaming the network for inciting the January 3 murder of Aaron Yeh, a 24-year-old worker at Scientology’s “Advanced Org” in a Sydney, Australia suburb.

    Pouw angrily blamed the network for inciting the murder, which she says the church warned would happen because it was airing Leah Remini’s series, Scientology and the Aftermath.

    “For years, A&E executives ignored our warnings that the series was inspiring bigotry and violence. You knew what you were doing. Your intent was to stir up hate and turn it into cash. Now somebody has been murdered. Your indifference and obsession with stirring hate underwrote his murder,” Pouw writes in the letter, and calls on the network to cancel the show.

    Yeh, a Taiwanese national who had joined Scientology’s “Sea Org” with its billion-year contract, was escorting a 16-year-old boy from the Advanced Org campus when the boy pulled out a 10-inch kitchen knife and slashed Yeh’s throat, killing him. He also wounded another Sea Org guard, Shannon Vaughn, before he was subdued and later arrested.

    The boy was reportedly upset because the day before he had fought with his mother at home over her involvement in Scientology’s “Purification Rundown,” which she was going through at the base. He then showed up at the base but was not allowed to see his mother while she was undergoing the procedure, which is standard policy. When the boy became agitated, he was asked to leave and then attacked Yeh.

    A Sydney church member, who asked not to be named, tells us that the mother had been brought to Australia from Taiwan to join the Sea Org, and was doing the Purif as an initial step. But it’s not clear if her son objected to her making the Sea Org commitment (which would mean she would have little time for family) or he objected simply to the Purif, or both.

    But Pouw, in her letter, says that the boy argued with his mother at home and then came to the base with a knife because he had read about Scientology on the Internet, and was inspired by Leah Remini’s criticisms of her former church.

    “The assailant had stated his intent to burn down the Church,” Pouw claims. “The attacker was inspired by an anti-Scientology website that featured your people and included a link to Remini’s show.”

    Pouw also takes the opportunity to repeat some of the church’s standard complaints about the show, claiming that guests are “coached” to “incite hatred” of Scientology and that they are compensated “under the table.” (Full disclosure: We’ve appeared on the show twice, with the production company paying our expenses to fly out from New York, but otherwise we weren’t paid a dime. We weren’t coached what to say in either instance. Other participants assure us they experienced the same.)

    The letter concludes with a flourish: “We urged you to stop the hate and repeatedly told you the harm it was causing, which was escalating with each paid-for, hate-filled episode. Now, somebody is dead. You paid for the hate that caused his murder. And you profit. Stop your program.”

    It’s signed by Pouw, who never appears on television for interviews. We’ve long suspected that her name is put on letters actually written by Scientology leader David Miscavige.

    “What is amazing about this letter is that they couldn’t even get [Scientology attorney] Gary Soter to send it, let alone a reputable attorney because it is such BS and is going to turn out to be complete manufactured conjecture. Ultimately the records of what this guy said are going to become available,” Leah Remini’s co-star Mike Rinder tells us. “And it is so clearly written by Miscavige. The end of the letter is classic Miscavige ‘tough guy’ style. Karin Pouw couldn’t write this if you gave her OT 8 and a million dollars.”

    In Australia, the 16-year-old assailant is being held without bail and faces murder charges. When we recently asked therapist Rachel Bernstein about the incident, she had a lot of interesting questions about the state of the boy’s mind. “I find it meaningful that he attacked a guard as opposed to someone just in there taking courses or doing the Purif,” she told us. “The guard was the symbolic barrier between him and his mother and by attacking the guard with a knife I believe he was showing how angry he was and how powerless he felt to be able to either access his mother or protect his mother from all of this… Whether or not he had an emotional disturbance, he just may have been terrified being in a new country and then feeling like his mother was being kidnapped away from him and there was nothing he could do about it.”

    Those are the kinds of questions — about the stresses this family was put under as they were moved to a new country to be part of the Scientology experience, that police should be asking to understand the situation, and that Scientology should be answering.

    Take a look at the letter and let us know how you think A&E or Leah Remini should respond. Here’s the text of the letter:


    And here’s Pouw’s response to Bryan Seymour, who also covered this story. It’s pretty precious.

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    7 News Sydney‏ @7NewsSydney 4 hours ago
    An extraordinary letter has been obtained by 7 News from the Church of @Scientology. It blames a Hollywood star for the alleged murder at their Sydney Headquarters earlier this month. More Info:

    Hollywood star blamed for alleged murder at Sydney Scientology headquarters | Yahoo7 News

    Scientology blames Hollywood star Leah Remini and TV network for the tragic stabbing death of a man ‘by a teen who was trying to save his mother from a purification process’ | Daily Mail
    • Fatal stabbing has been blamed on A&E networks by the Church of Scientology
    • 24-year-old Taiwanese man died after being stabbed in the neck on January 3
    • The church said the program 'poisoned the airwaves' with hate for the religion
    • The hate has now 'born a bitter fruit', the letter addressed to the network claims

    Scientologists Blame Leah Remini Propaganda For Young Follower's Murder | Radar Online
    Church says she's 'poisoned the airwaves in an avowed effort to create hatred.'
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    Scientology Accuses A&E, Leah Remini of Inciting Church Murder | Hollywood Reporter

    Scientology’s bizarre reason for fatal stabbing |

    Scientology Blames Leah Remini for Murder at Church Headquarters | Patheos

    Scientology Officials Somehow Implicate Leah Remini In Alleged Sydney Murder | Perez Hilton

    Church Of Scientology Blames Murder On Leah Remini's 'Hate-Filled' Docuseries In INTENSE Letter To A&E! | Perez Hilton

    Scientology Claims Leah Remini's A&E Show Led to Church Member's Murder | Pop Culture

    Leah Remini and A&E Accused of Inciting Murder | TVWeek

    Church of Scientology Blames Murder of Australian Scientologist on Leah Remini & A&E | World Religion News
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    Watch out for scummy new ops from you know who

    By Tony Ortega, January 23, 2019


    We’ve been hearing some things lately that suggest to us that someone — cough, cough — is getting sort of desperate and is putting on some scummier dirty tricks ops than usual. Chris Shelton, for example, shared this ham-handed attempt to spook him, an email which he was good enough to share with us.

    It was sent to Chris on January 14, and from “Justin Davies II,” an email address that appears to be bogus.


    I’m a reporter in Sydney with a few questions, if you don’t mind. Some courthouse observers have said that the Crown Prosecutor in the case has indicated the teen who committed this murder claims he was influenced by your videos and had corresponded with you.

    1) Can you discuss the nature of your communications with the assailant? How recent were they?
    2) Were you aware of his intentions, and did you encourage him?
    3) Do you expect to be charged, and has the Prosecutor reached out to you yet? We’re not getting good answers.
    4) Have you hired a barrister yet, and if so, may we speak with him or her?


    We hear that at least one other ‘Aftermath’ participant got a similar message. To the rest, we suggest, keep your guard up.

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    The Church of Scientology is planning a family fun day at the scene of a stabbing that saw a 16-year-old charged with murder earlier this year.

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