Narconon Arrowhead CEO Gary Smith will do interview if Colin Henderson signs a Consent for Realease

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  1. Quentinanon Member

    I like my equation: NarCONon = scientology - the religion angle
  2. Quentinanon Member

    Yep. He seemed to believe that LSD rewired people's brains. But, amphetamines, nembutol,
    Vistaril, and scientology don't.
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  3. Anonymous Member

    Based in part on experimentation on himself. I guess Hubbard never cleared the words: objectivity, scientific method.
  4. Quentinanon Member

    You forgot that Hubbard considered scientists dramatising, aberrated WOGS.
  5. Anonymous Member

    how about some instances of this so called Fair Game.......where are the doxss!!!
  6. patriot75 Member

    Narconon Chilocco New Life Center
    New Life Without Drugs
    August 18, 1992

    Dear DSA (Dept. of Special Affairs CoS):

    It has been a while since my last briefing but the wait has been worth it because there is big news to announce.

    Narconon Chilocco now has officially won its battle with the Mental Health Board when the board voted unanimously last Friday to exempt Narconon from certification requirements. In a nutshell, because Narconon is nationally accredited, it never has to apply for certification again and the Mental Health Board relinquishes their control over the program. This is a first ever decision from the Board and Narconon is the first non-hospital program to ever be exempted in this fashion, and is the only non-hospital program in Oklahoma who is nationally accredited.

    This marks the end of a two year battle over certification which has cost the state of Oklahoma an estimate $2,000.000 to fight. So it gives you some idea of how much the psyches and ARM figures think Narconon is worth to Oklahoma. The Chairman of the Mental Health Board admitted in the Friday hearing that they had taken money away from other programs in order to pay for the cost of the Narconon battle, but in the end, it was the Board's own psychiatrist who made the motion to exempt Narconon and end the nightmare that was started by the Mental Health Department in 1990.

    All statewide media covered the victory and touted the decision as a reversal of the early denial of the certification to Narconon. Over 100 telephone calls came in within the first 24 hours from people all over the country offering congratulations on the win.

    One television station in OKC announced to all of its employees that Narconon overcame the Mental Health Board and incited a standing ovation for Narconon. Even the Mental Health Board seems happier. After the meeting the Chairman of the Board approached me and thanked me for coming and asked me if she could come out and visit Chilocco now that this war was over.

    Overcoming the certification issue has been the biggest battle for Narconon to become fully operational in Oklahoma. The only remaining step is obtaining an occupancy license from the Oklahoma Department of Health or a similar exemption from having to be licensed. This would bring Narconon acceptance from virtually every sector possible and open the door of the center wide for all publics in need of substance abuse treatment.
    Currently Narconon is still only taking Native Americans, but in the next few days this status will be changing to include all drug abusers from all states and countries and remove all barriers to expansion. Now is the time to promote.

    If you have people in your area you know of who need substance abuse treatment, call us. There are many ways for people to get onto the program here and many alcoholics and addicts have health insurance which covers their treatment. FSMs (Field Service Members) are greatly needed on most registration cycles with Narconon and there is a need for promotion in the field of each org.

    Tell people in your org and in your field that Narconon Chilocco is going to be accepting all patients and to start making arrangements to get people out here. If there are Narconon public in your field who still need help, regardless of which Narconon they were serviced at.

    Promote this one big and I will let you know when the final victory over Oklahoma comes through. And if you see any press in your area on our victory (via the AP wire story on our hearing) please let me know and send up copies of it.

    We are also rapidly expanding our staff here to meet the upcoming client needs and we are looking for people who are admin or tech trained (or want to be) who might want to come and live in Oklahoma at Chilocco and work in the largest drug rehab center in the world.
    I look forward to getting any feedback possible on this victory, so if you hear about this through your public, or even through your enemies, let me know.

    Much Love,
    Bruce Pyle
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  7. patriot75 Member
    Fair Game (Scientology)

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    The term Fair Game is used to describe policies and practices carried out by the Church of Scientology towards people and groups it perceives as its enemies. Founder L. Ron Hubbard established the policy in the 1960s, in response to criticism both from within and outside his organization.[1][2] Individuals or groups who are "Fair Game" are judged to be a threat to the Church and, according to the policy, can be punished and harassed using any and all means possible.[1][2][3] In 1968, Hubbard officially canceled use of the term "Fair Game" because of negative public relations it caused, although the Church's aggressive response to criticism continued.[1]
    Applying the principles of Fair Game, Hubbard and his followers targeted many individuals as well as government officials and agencies, including a program of covert and illegal infiltration of the IRS and other U.S. government agencies during the 1970s.[1][2] They also conducted private investigations, character assassination and legal action against the Church's critics in the media.[1] The policy remains in effect and has been defended by the Church of Scientology as a core religious practice
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    L. Gene Allard, 1974–1976
    In 1974, the Church lost a case against an ex-Scientologist named L. Gene Allard who in 1969, shortly after leaving the Church of Scientology, had been arrested on a charge of grand theft made by the Church of Scientology.[30] The charge was dismissed "in the interest of justice", and Allard sued the Church for malicious prosecution.[30] At the trial, Allard's lawyer introduced the October 1967 and October 1968 "Fair Game" policy statements into evidence.[30] Allard was awarded $50,000 in compensatory damages and $250,000 in punitive damages.[30][31] Attorneys acting for the Church of Scientology had argued that the Fair Game policy had been canceled, was irrelevant to the suit and had not been applied to Allard.[30] An appellate court, while reducing the amount of punitive charges from $250,000 to $50,000, upheld the verdict against the Church, arguing that the church had been given ample opportunity "to produce evidence that the fair-game policy had been repealed" but had "failed to do so".[30] In July 1976, the California Supreme Court refused to review the case.[30]
    [edit] Operation Freakout, 1976

    In Operation Freakout, the Church of Scientology attempted to cause journalist and writer Paulette Cooper to be imprisoned, killed, driven to suicide or committed to a mental institution, as revenge for her publication in 1971 of a highly critical book, The Scandal of Scientology. The Federal Bureau of Investigation discovered documentary evidence of the plot and the preceding campaign of harassment during an investigation into the Church of Scientology in 1977, eventually leading to the Church compensating Cooper in an out-of-court settlement.
    [edit] Department of Health and Social Security (UK), 1979

    The Church of Scientology of California sued the Department of Health and Social Security (DHSS) in British courts for defamation. The DHSS had suggested that Scientologists were dangerous charlatans who would worsen rather than cure mental illness.[32] The Church demanded as part of discovery that the DHSS release letters and medical records from people who had complained about the Church. Lord Justice Stephenson declined the request, citing the Fair Game policy, which he believed still applied despite its name being cancelled. He was concerned that the documents would be used "not for legitimate purposes of the action but for harassment of individual patients, informants and renegades named in them, not only by proceedings for defamation against them but by threats and blackmail."[32]
    [edit] Lawrence Wollersheim, 1980

    Lawrence Wollersheim, a former Scientologist, successfully argued that he had been harassed and his photography business nearly destroyed as a result of Fair Game measures. These included getting Scientologist employees to resign, and Scientologist customers to boycott or refuse to pay him.[23] The 1986 judgment by a Los Angeles jury was upheld by the California Court of Appeal in 1989.[33] During appeals, the Church again claimed Fair Game was a "core practice" of Scientology and was thus constitutionally protected "religious expression".[4] The court decided that the Church's campaign "to ruin Wollersheim economically, and possibly psychologically" should be discouraged rather than protected.[23] Twenty years after the start of the case, the Church paid Wollersheim a judgment, with interest, that amounted to US$8,674,643.[34]
    [edit] Jakob Anderson, 1981

    In the March 11–16, 1981, Danish court case of Jakob Anderson vs The Church Of Scientology of Denmark, ex-Guardian's Office operative Vibeke Damman testified that the Church did in fact practice Fair Game and had done so in Anderson's case, in an attempt to get Anderson committed to a psychiatric hospital.[35]
    [edit] Gerald Armstrong, 1984

    In 1980, Scientologist and Sea Org officer Gerry Armstrong was assigned to organize some of Hubbard's personal papers as the basis for a biography of Hubbard. Omar Garrison, a non-Scientologist known to be sympathetic to Scientology, was hired to write the biography. Both Armstrong and Garrison quickly realized that the papers reflected unfavorably on Hubbard, and revealed that many of Hubbard's claimed accomplishments were exaggerations or outright fabrications. Garrison abandoned the project, and a disillusioned Armstrong and his wife left the Church, retaining copies of the embarrassing materials as insurance against the expected harassment to come.[36] Armstrong was sued by the Church in 1982 for the theft of private documents. The "Fair Game" policy became an issue in court. Armstrong won the case, in part because the Judge ruled that Armstrong, as a Scientologist of long standing, knew that fair game was practiced, and had good reason to believe that possession of these papers would be necessary to defend himself against illegal persecution by the Church.[37] In a scathing decision, Judge Paul Breckenridge wrote:
    In addition to violating and abusing its own members' civil-rights, the organization over the years with its "Fair Game" doctrine has harassed and abused those persons not in the Church whom it perceives as enemies. [...] [Armstrong] was declared an enemy by the Church. He believed, reasonably, that he was subject to "fair game."[38]
    [edit] Latey judgment, 1984

    A child custody case in London's High Court examined the culture of Scientology to investigate the risks to children being raised within it. Stating his conclusions in a public hearing, Mr. Justice Latey read some of Scientology's internal documents into the record.[39][40] Despite the alleged cancellation of Fair Game, he reported that, "Deprival of property, injury by any means, trickery, suing, lying or destruction have been pursued throughout and to this day with the fullest possible vigour."[41] As an example, he cited the case of a doctor at Harvard Medical School who at one point was regarded as the Church's "Number One Enemy".[39] The Church had persecuted him by stealing his employment records from a hospital, launching frivolous lawsuits against him and tracking down his patients and neighbors. The Citizens' Commission on Human Rights, which Latey described as "a Scientology 'front'", made multiple complaints of misconduct against the doctor.
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  10. Quentinanon Member

    ARM = old GO and OSA term for "Anti Religious Movement" e.g. deprogrammers and critics.
    Interesting that Bruce Pyle uses the term in relation to NarCONon which is promoted as "secular".
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  11. Anonymous Member

    scientologists - the lowest form of scum

    I cannot wait until this pathetic little sect is destroyed.
  12. patriot75 Member

    Fox 25 OKC will be airing a little piece tonight, but possibly tomorrow. 9pm CST
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  13. JohnnyRUClear Member

    NarCONon isn't Scientology? They are two distinct entities? The only connection is L. Ron Hubbard came up with each of them? Then why is Scientology so excited about NarCONon and treating it as such a central, integral part of their efforts?

    Sure is cult up in this bitch.
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  15. Anonymous Member

    Exceptions to the Rule for Holders of Patient-Identifying Information

    The Federal confidentiality regulations are strict, but not absolute. They allow patient-identifying disclosures in several situations.
    Internal Program Communications

    Patient-identifying information may be disclosed within a program, or to an entity having direct administrative control over a program, if the recipient of the disclosure needs the information to provide substance abuse services to the patient. "Within the program" means within the organization or organizational unit that provides substance abuse services. This means, for example, that the staff of a detoxification unit within a hospital may share patient-identifying information with one another—and with hospital administrators with direct supervisory oversight for the program—where such sharing of information is needed to provide substance abuse services to the program's patients. The program may also share information, where necessary, with, for example, the hospital's recordkeeping or billing departments, since those units are integral to the program's functioning. However, the program may not freely share patient-identifying information with other parts or units of the hospital. Anyone within or in direct administrative control of a program who receives patient-identifying information is bound by the confidentiality regulations and may not redisclose the information except as allowed by the regulations.

    Generally, a program may disclose any information about a patient if the patient authorizes it by signing a valid consent form.10 To be valid, a consent must specify the following:
    • The name of the patient
    • The name of the program making the disclosure
    • The purpose of the disclosure
    • Who is to receive the information
    • The information to be released (described as exactly and as narrowly as possible in light of the purpose of the release)
    • That the patient understands that he or she may revoke the consent at any time, except to the extent that action has been taken in reliance on it11
    • That revocation may be oral as well as written
    • The date or condition upon which the consent expires, if it has not been revoked earlier
    • The date the consent form is signed
    • The signature of the patient12
    A proper consent—that is, a consent that includes the foregoing features—will permit a holder of patient-identifying information to make patient-identifying disclosures to outsiders, such as probation officers, employers, or relatives of the patient. When making a disclosure pursuant to such a consent, a program need not send a copy of the consent to the recipient of the disclosed material. Where, however, the program is asked for a disclosure by someone outside the program, it will have to receive a copy of the consent before it may respond to the request. The regulations permit a program to make a patient-identifying disclosure pursuant to a copy (as opposed to the original) of a consent.13
    Whenever a disclosure is made pursuant to a consent, it must be accompanied by a written notice prohibiting redisclosure.14 The notice prohibiting redisclosure warns the recipient that the information disclosed is protected by Federal law and may not be redisclosed except with the patient's consent or under an exception to the regulations. The prohibition-on-redisclosure notice must be sent to the recipient even where the disclosure was made orally.

    More at
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  16. Intelligence Member

    "IF" ^^^ consent is given when "the patient had the capacity to form intent."

    Before a patient is finished in withdrawal, and is in a state of intoxification or under the
    influence of drugs or alcohol, or incapacitated whatsoever mentally, many countries and
    jurisdictions will VOID "Consent" if it was diven under the aforesaid circumstances.

    This ^^^ is "Common Law" statutes in countries that adopted British Common Law, which
    I believe the USA did? Canada and the UK abide by these Laws RE: Contract and Tort Law.

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  17. Anonymous Member

    I'd be curious to know if their request for a waiver/release to patriot included all the information required.
  18. grebe Member

    Narconon will likely release information that you never knew you'd disclosed to them, patriot75. Stuff that private investigators gleaned from spying on you, your friends, and family.

    Most of what the Scientologists say will be true. However, bits will be taken out of context to paint you in the worst possible light. You won't be able to prove their version of events wrong because they will have done their homework.

    The Scientologists won't be able to *prove* that you have problems with authority going way back, that you tend to blame others for your own failures, that you have a chip on your shoulder, that you are easily led into bad decisions by charismatic friends, that you are tormented by fantasies of molesting children, blah blah blab. But the Scientologists don't need proof. They only need to avoid being caught in an outright lie.

    Whenever the public are faced with a confusing she-said-he-said situation, they assume both parties are drama-llamas and "the truth must rest somewhere in the middle." That is not to your advantage.
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  19. Anonymous Member

    He can go all sorts of places with this, including staff's 'beliefs' about you...can you imagine? Your consent will be invoked prior to character assassination.
    Social engineering at its scariest.
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  20. Anonymous Member

    Creepy criminal cult at its creepiest.
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  21. Anonymous Member


    It's bad enough that professionals sometimes make assumptions about you can can negatively affect you, but those in-house counselors at narCONon have no formal training and yet can write things in files that might follow a person for years after. Not to mention scientology is not above doctoring your files to reflect it's viewpoint.

    However, this might be a really good time to have your lawyer demand them so you can see what's in them already.
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  22. Intelligence Member

    Published on Jun 6, 2012 by Intelligenceplus
    June 6, 2012 - Fox News 25 Oklahoma follow-up on the three deaths at Narconon Arrowhead in Oklahoma. Narconon executive director demands that Colin Henderson sign a release so that the Scientology Rehab center can breach patient confidentiality to Fox News 25 without facing legal problems. Colin refused to give his permission for Narconon arrowhead to release his confidential medical information.

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  23. DeathHamster Member

    I'm sure that they'd use it as permission for anything: files, pictures, films, PIs, golf carts with camera-head morons...
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  24. jensting Member

    Love it!

    "so-called church" Yup!

    Best Regards

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  25. Intelligence Member

    Ya', "Have the Reporter's job!" How about the State of Oklahoma "Have Your Job" Mr. Gary Smith - and
    not through Fair Gaming, but by using the law fair and square, as well as use the Health Authorities?

    In my opinion, this thug is just that - - a robotic "Sea Org Thug/Bum, who parasites a living off
    of the desperate and vulnerable victims who fall prey to "Used-Car Salesmen Type Registrars".

    How do I know? Unfortunately and embarassingly, I was one! I was given "Dead-Lists" that ALL the
    other Registrars had given up on and were stored away in file cabinets as "Dead."

    This is where the "Telemarketing Misrepresentation" came in. When a mark calls you for information
    and help, it's not "Telemarketing" - but when they are called back months later, it falls under "Telemarketing"
    and the legal rules change big time.

    We'll see:) - - So put that in your pipe and smoke it OSA:)

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  26. grebe Member

    Eh Larry Blunt is a pretty cool guy. Doesn't afraid of anything.

    I wonder where he is now. I want to call him and tell him that I like him.
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  28. lostatsea Member

    YES, THIS. Do not agree to their terms; DO NOT SIGN. Please, Colin.

    The CoS would not be offering if it the agreement didn't work in their favor. Don't do it.
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  29. Anonymous Member

    View attachment NarcononArrowheadConcentforReleaseFormGarySmithtoC
  30. grebe Member

    "The purpose of the disclosure authorized in this consent:" was left blank. I wonder what Narconon thinks ought to be written there. Dead agent tech?

    Maybe Narconon anticipates that Colin won't sign the form, but is hoping the offer to give an interview will convey a sense of confidence to the public --i.e., "we could defend ourselves if only we were permitted to do so."
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  31. anon walker Moderator

    It's a ploy to get his permission to Dead Agent him in public. They're dying to do it, but they can't because of that inconvenient Love fellah who made a thing about it. If Colin refuses, they will be unable to tell the world what a horrible junkie he is. And you know they want to.
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  32. anon walker Moderator

    Quite a few years ago, the cult tracked down my 90+ year old uncle, who was living in an assisted living joint in Socal.

    Posing as a corporate investigator doing a bg check, they led him to believe I was applying for a job. Asked about me, all he could say was, "She used to train falcons."

    Need to's not just for intel any moar.

    Anyway, they went to great lengths to find this guy, as we weren't close and his last name is different. So yeah, they will do this stuff, no matter how useless it is to them.
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  33. patriot75 Member

    Request for wiki contributor to update about the deaths and the current Fox25 reports, including links to all ( provide fox and McAlester News links)
  34. Quentinanon Member

    I remember Gary Smith as a fellow with an arrogant sense of entitlement. Just the kind of person to climb the scientology corporate latter.
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  35. Anonymous Member

    Well, my impression from a lot of SO that I met was that the planet owed them a living.
  36. Intelligence Member

    I don't imagine Smith had a happy 2:00pm Stats time today handling all the PR Flaps:)

    IMO he's got three choices:

    1 - Prepare thyself for RPF (being a Sea ORGer, they have room on the floor for him).

    2 - Keep on fighting this losing battle, losing sleep - filled with "Charge in Effect" and fall below 2.0

    3 - Save yourself and many other lives by turning States Evidence, as others will probably do, and
    get the hell out while he still can.

    Gary, we have FUN out here in the WOG world and delicious Caek. Then you will be able to look in
    the mirror and see the real you - not a puppet who has contributed to harms and deaths.

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  37. patriot75 Member

    I just had a wonderful conversation with Larry took about 15 attempts after Larry returned my phone cell. I asked him if I could call hime back via Skype. After about 30 minutes we were finally able talk but only from my cell....hum. I hope you heard every word of that conversation OSA.......Hi Gary, sad to here NN Arrowhead wouldn't agree to my 3 conditions that would have to be in place for me even to consider signing you concent agreement:

    1. Narconon Arrowhead shuts their doors right now.
    2. Narconon of Oklahoma Inc. desolves it's self with the Sec. of State whith in 30 business days.
    3. Narconon of Oklahoma Inc. donates (NOT SELL) all of the property purchased back to the Choctaw Nation.

    This is what I told the reporter........Sorry we couldn't make a deal.
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  38. Quentinanon Member

    As a product, it was indeed useless, but as a product to get statistic points, very useful. Remember, in scientology, it's all about stats, and ah, money.
  39. Anonymous Member

    which = Appearances
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