Narconon buys themselves a "peer reviewed" paper. Rebutal early and often.

Discussion in 'Narconon' started by DeathHamster, Oct 10, 2013.

  1. DeathHamster Member Releases/Narconon International Releases a Three-Year Outcome Review of Narconon Eslov in Sweden/8768153.html&c=5pnFOP8XF5Mx
    Unless Narconon Eslov is somehow different from every other Narconon, the paper had to be a crock. So let's look at that "peer-reviewed journal"...

    Published in Substance Abuse: Research and Treatment, which is part of Libertas Academica.

    The first warning sign is that it's an "open-access" journal. Rather than selling subscriptions, they charge the people with papers to be published. I assume that if the peer review rejects a paper, they don't get anything. That seems like a conflict of interest.
    Predatory open access is a second warning sign. That usually means that they have all sorts of come-ons for contributors, without ever mentioning that it's pay-for-publish.
    Someone recently submitted a scam paper to a large number of open access journals to test their claimed peer review. Many failed badly.

    Fake Cancer Study Spotlights Bogus Science Journals

    So that's where they're coming from when they claim to have a paper published in a peer-reviewed journal. The next step is to dissect the paper itself, because you can bet that they'll be using this piece of bumwad everywhere!
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    The authors are "incredible" in the first place. Something like one scilon doctor and one got himself a fancy empty job title and charge other people for it.
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  3. DeathHamster Member

    My bad! The first warning sign is that Alfonso Paredes is one of the co-authors. Apparently he hates Scientology and Narconon, but his son is a member, so they use Disconnection as extortion to use his name for anything they feel like. The poor guy must be ancient by now.
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  5. Anonymous Member

    It doesn't look like they are saying the paper is peer reviewed. It looks like they claim to be following a methodology that is peer reviewed.

    Typical clam misleading phrasing.
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  6. Anonymous Member

    Discussion on the publication:
    Posted by Clark Carr - 14:11,September 17, 2013

    Thank you for this very interesting paper and for the initiative shown in doing an actual demonstration in the field of a workable, simple procedure that alcohol and other drug rehab centers can use to do outcome monitoring, both to observe their longitudinal results and to improve internal quality of delivery.
    When the president of Narconon International thanks them for publishing a paper within a day of it being published you know something really stinks.
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  7. DeathHamster Member

    The paper was "peer reviewed" (for very small values of peer review).
    For the next while, this will be their standard reply to anything about Narconon.

    Narconon was closed in Quebec.
    - But we have a peer-reviewed paper!

    Narconon Georgia is being investigated for credit-card fraud.
    - Who cares, we have a peer-reviewed paper!

    Narconon Arrowhead lost its certification.
    - But now, we have a peer-reviewed paper!
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    Clear No. 11,896 in April 1979.. No OT Levels completed since.
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  9. A.O.T.F Member

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  12. DeathHamster Member

    No. Possibly the OT VIII is his son? (i.e. Alfonso Paredes jr.)
    • Taking Chances March 28, 2007, David Alire Garcia, Santa Fe Reporter
    Not exactly glowing praise.
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    What is an "externally contracted staff member" ?
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  14. A.O.T.F Member

    Its cool CP .. They are all board certified in the specialty they practice. No droids to be found here ;)
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  18. DeathHamster Member

    From the paper:
    One employee. This looks legit.
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    Richard D. Lennox, one of the authors, doesn't seem to be anyone important at Chestnut.
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  20. Anonymous Member

    Wow how the fuck does this even qualify as scientific?
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  21. Anonymous Member

    So I had a quick read of the paper. It is possible it is legit in a sense (though I'm by no means qualified to thoroughly assess it).

    However, the paper is not assessing Narconon's efficacy. It is testing the efficacy of a particular method of monitoring patients post-discharge. The work was done at Narconon Arrowhead (who also paid for it) but the paper is all about the evaluation criteria rather than Narconon's methods.

    And this paper is not the study allegedly done by Narconon in Sweden. That study merely uses the methodology allegedly validated by the linked paper. They are not claiming the Sweden study has been peer reviewed.
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    Then it becomes a matter of pooning them to reveal the association between Narconon as the subject in this study.
    When they realize the "ethics" of the organisation they've just been associated with, something will happen :)
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  25. DeathHamster Member

    I found Richard D. Lennox.
    The only part in the paper that mentions Chestnut is this:
    It's possible that he's legit, and was only writing about what Arrowhead claimed was their process, rather than what they actually did.
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  26. A.O.T.F Member

    Ripping off the model?
  27. DeathHamster Member

    We need an ex-Narconon Arrowhead staffer who was there during that period.
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    If Richard D. Lennox is legit and Alfonso Paredes is probably warehoused in a Home for Emeritus Professors, then who is Marie A. Sternquist "Independent research consultant, Anchorage, AK"?

    She appears to be Marie Cecchini Sternquist, with strong Scientology connections, including Narconon.

    There's a Facebook page for a Dr. Sternquist of Anchorage, but the LinkedIn Marie Cecchini Sternquist doesn't seem to have completed her doctorate.
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    Marie must have pissed off somebody she is now in Alaska
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    It appears there is a Mr. Sternquest

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    Buy the comments Marie Cecchini Sternquist is probably his wife who has co-authored narconon papers.
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    Chestnut Health Systems seems like a legit mental health place so I’m surprised it’s connected to a Narconon study.

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    The part by the guy from Chestnut is just a paragraph unrelated to Narconon. Still, Chestnut should get down to the clinic and get themselves checked for anything communicable, before their reputation rots and falls off.
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