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Discussion in 'Narconon' started by tinfoilhatter, Mar 10, 2014.

  1. Anonymous Member

    Hat Tip to The Wrong Guy for - David Love & The Human Rights Commission in Quebec:

    https://whyweprotest.net/community/...to-be-bought-by-narconon.117924/#post-2444341

    VERDICT: Scientology’s Quebec rehab facility violated human rights of David Love and 2 others

    By Tony Ortega

    David Edgar Love and two other former patients of a Canadian drug rehab facility run by Scientology’s front group, Narconon, have won a stunning victory from Quebec’s human rights commission.


    More than three years after Love complained about the way he was treated as a patient and employee of the Narconon Trois-Rivières facility (now closed), the Quebec Commission des droits de la personne et des droits de la jeunesse has produced a scathing finding of fact that Narconon did violate Love’s human rights.

    “This is a big win,” Love told us during a Skype conversation Wednesday night.

    Over several years, Love has won several victories against the Narconon facility, which was closed down in 2012 by Quebec health officials who were acting on Love’s complaints and voluminous documentation. He also had earlier won a labor settlement over his work at the facility, and convinced the Quebec College of Physicians to ban a doctor from the facility. But it was the human rights commission that Love especially wanted a result from. (See our previous story with extensive background on his experience as a Narconon patient and employee.)

    Love was able to bring a complaint to the commission because it investigates cases of discrimination against the “disabled” — and Canada’s supreme court has found that drug addicts fall under that designation. (Narconon fought that application in this case, Love says, but the commission ultimately sided with him.)

    “They went out and interviewed people right across Canada,” Love says. And he thinks the commission’s decisive statement of findings will reverberate across the country and internationally.

    “Here Scientology has a ‘Citizens Commission on Human Rights,’ and what happened? They were found to be violating human rights. After a three and a half year investigation, it was found that Narconon violated the human rights of three people. I think this will help people down south and around the world,” he said.

    The commission agreed with what Love has been saying since he left the Narconon center in 2009 — that the rehab facility’s operations were based in deceptive business practices which put its patients in danger. The commission’s report lays out a damning litany of conditions that were imposed on Love and the other patients.

    – Charging him considerable amounts for a detoxification program which was not scientifically approved and which involved health and safety hazards;

    – Failing to provide him with care suited to his medical condition, despite the sums he paid;

    – Providing information, before and during treatment, which could be misleading as to the likelihood of a successful outcome, and which gave the impression that the results were guaranteed;

    – Charging him large sums for a service provided by unqualified people;

    – Forcing him to work and perform various tasks without pay….

    – Forcing him to submit to humiliating and degrading practices;

    – Failing to properly bear the responsibility for confidential information obtained from the complainant after prompting him to open up about personal aspects of his life;

    – Using controversial teaching methods that were not based on any scientific study;

    – Submitting him to poor living and food conditions;

    – Submitting him to forced confinement and coercion.


    A PDF of the decisions of the Commission attached.

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  2. BigBeard Member

    Considering all narCONons the same operating procedures, this decision should be forwarded to every attorney with an active case against narCONon!

    BigBeard
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  3. Anonymous Member

    Here are a couple of early WWP Threads:

    INFO DUMP medical claims in Scientology

    https://whyweprotest.net/community/threads/info-dump-medical-claims-in-scientology.30537/

    *G&G Vitamins - do they supply Narconon? source required

    https://whyweprotest.net/community/...-they-supply-narconon-source-required.110754/

    (The thread has a *BINGO* ---- https://whyweprotest.net/community/...narconon-source-required.110754/#post-2303033)

    * UK Company started by David Gaiman - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Gaiman
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  4. Anonymous Member

  5. Anonymous Member

    Today, April 19th/2014 - A couple of interesting posts by John P. at The Bunker, about the Vista Bay Narconon 990 for 2012:

    A couple of interesting things in a quick glance at the Narconon Vista Bay tax return. I'm working off memory on the comparisons here, so I could well be wide of the mark, but don't have the time this morning to try and track down the source data.

    First, I seem to recall that Arrowhead, the flagship facility, only did about $8 million in program revenue in the last year that I remember seeing hard data. Here, a "smaller" facility is doing about $11 million in 2012 (note that program revenue was down slightly from 2011 to 2012, though it would be hard to tell whether that was due to critics or due to a normal fluctuation in the business).

    Second, the salaries of the officers seem a little high for an organization of that size. Total comp for the 8 named officers of $1.56 million was about 13% of total revenue. For a small company, that's definitely excessive. I would love to see any perspective from former Narconon staffers about what percentage of their income the management of Narconon "contributes" back to the cult directly. In other words, I strongly suspect that the excessive comp here is just a way for the cult to extract more money from Narconon without it being directly traceable. I also seem to recall that the earlier Vista Bay 990 that I looked at (2008?) had far lower salaries for top management, when revenue was substantially lower. That furthers the idea that they're adjusting salaries not based on economics and performance but they're using the salary amount to shovel money back to the cult quietly.

    "Advertising and Promotion" expenses of $1.95 million probably includes the network of referral sites that get paid 10% commissions. Again, I strongly suspect that these are Scientologists who are "regged" of nearly all that amount -- after all, the cult knows how much those guys are getting paid so they won't be shy about asking for "their" money back.

    "Payments to Affiliates" of $1.16 million is almost certainly the amount of money that flows "uplines" to Narconon International, to ABLE and then directly into Scientology coffers. That's almost exactly 10% of program revenue, which I think is the "licensing fee" for the "tech" that we've seen elsewhere. This is probably about the most they could get away with disclosing as direct payments without triggering alarm bells from someone merely casually reading these financial statements. Since they're limited in direct payments to the cult, they have to find other ways to suck money out of the machine.

    The balance sheet on Page 11 of the 990 is also interesting. Narconon only keeps cash on hand of about $990,000 at the end of the year, which is not a lot for an organization doing $12 million in revenue. Basically, that means that they don't have a solid cushion to allow them to make payroll and pay their bills if they have a bad month. Most organizations have substantial accounts receivable (money owed by customers who have purchased stuff but not yet paid) -- typically, that's somewhere between 45 days and 60 days worth of sales. But NN only has about $120k of receivables, or about 3 days of sales. So they don't have a lot of "visibility" into where the next bit of cash is coming from. That, again, supports my contention that the business is systematically being pillaged from above (which is, of course, no surprise to longtime watchers like us).

    They took a loss of about $431,000 on a sale of an asset as listed in the income statement on page 9, which was curious -- they got $221,000 for something they paid $652,000 for. On pages 30 and 31, in the footnotes, this was disclosed as a building that they bought for expansion, and they sold it at a loss because they claimed that renovations to their spec would have cost too much and the property market tanked. Once again, their brilliant real estate strategy is costing them big bucks. I wonder if the purchase of that property was known to the activist community or the local community and successfully opposed for permitting, or if they just screwed the deal up all by themselves.

    For all that revenue, just how effective are they? They say they delivered courses to 652 individuals. Sounds impressive, but they then go on to say that they "graduated 259 Drug Free Lives." So that means that only about 40% of the people who showed up graduated. That kind of blows up the "76% success rate" or whatever they claim, right there. Also, they claim to have delivered 805,150 hours of services. Given 652 people that walked through the door in 2012, that means an average of 1,235 hours of counseling per person. At 40 hours a week, that means the average stay at the facility was 7 months, and that's undoubtedly skewed by some high percentage of the customer base that stayed only a week or two.

    Also worth noting is the assertion that they delivered 20,486 drug related lectures at schools. I find it hard to believe that they were able to deliver that many lectures without causing a fuss. Given that there aren't 20,000 schools within a reasonable distance of Watsonville, they would have to travel quite a distance to get to any of those schools to deliver an in-person lecture. At $0.555 per mile (the 2012 IRS rate), assuming they had a 150 mile round trip to get to each school, they would have spent $1.7 million solely on mileage to reimburse employees for driving to and from lectures. That's unlikely in the extreme. This sounds particularly suspect. Either they've made up the numbers or they've "converted" some other stat like "number of mailings we've sent out to schools to offer them lectures" into actual lectures given.
    __________________________________

    Post #2:

    The problem for us is that nothing they're doing is actually illegal. The chances of an audit of any one organization in the Narconon network turning up any actionable misdeeds is fairly small. Even the analysis of all the ABLE entities taken as a whole, analyzing payments between entities, is unlikely to turn up anything that the government could use to either close it all down or to restrict their operations. That means it basically falls on the work of average citizens to try to shut this thing down by getting the word out about the dangers of Narconon.

    What I was able to find are basically the things I would notice in working at Global Capitalism HQ when taking a quick initial look at a company we're considering investing in. There are plenty of situations we walk away from that are either inept and incompetent, or perhaps a bit more sleazy and dishonest. But either of those alternatives fall far short of illegal activity, which is relatively rare. We have a pretty sensitive trip wire for bad behavior that would cause us to walk away, and we turn down "quietly and without sorrow" about 95% of the opportunities that people bring to us.

    http://tonyortega.org/2014/04/19/go...p-that-claims-holocaust-caused-by-psychiatry/

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  6. dwest Member

    I took an accounting course for non-profits. That low of a floating balance (3 days) is a major red flag. Since business and donations fluctuate day to day, not including economy changes, just to keep the lights on you would have a much larger floating balance.

    I'm surprised NarCONon Arrowhead actually submitted this
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  7. The Wrong Guy Member

    NARCONON EXPOSED: Scientology’s flagship drug rehab facility is struggling, records show

    The Underground Bunker has obtained internal financial records from Scientology’s flagship drug rehab facility in Oklahoma — known as Narconon Arrowhead — which show the toll that recent deaths, multiple lawsuits, and a drumbeat of bad press has taken on the treatment center.

    http://tonyortega.org/2014/04/23/na...ug-rehab-facility-is-struggling-records-show/
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  9. RavenEyes Member

    Nice way to further dehumanize people with addictions and make them solely revenue sources: "Bodies in shop"

    Disgusting.
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  10. White Tara Global Moderator

    Disgusting indeed, its all profit to them :(
  11. TorontosRoot Member

    Narconon should be closing soon... I hope, for good!
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  12. Quentinanon Member

    "bodies in the shop" is a scientology administrative term. Orgs use it as a stat.
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  13. BigBeard Member

    "bodies in the shop" sounds like something you'd hear at either an auto body shop or the morgue, not a supposed "rehab" facility.

    BigBeard
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  14. RavenEyes Member

    Yes, well Auschwitz-Birkenau used a term very similar for their weekly stats. :( Most hospitals and treatment facilities call their customers "patients". smh
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  15. DeathHamster Member

    I found News OK has an archive of Narconon Chilocco and Arrowhead articles, and imported 50 of them. I'm still tagging them. The more recent tend to be imports from other places.

    A couple nice examples:
    Hasn't changed a bit in 23 years, has it? Why are they still open?

    http://umbraxenu.no-ip.biz/mediawiki/index.php/Category:News_OK
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  16. Incredulicide Member

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  17. Anonymous Member

    Nice to see the evidence on TV, in "living color!"

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  18. tinfoilhatter Member

    https://whyweprotest.net/community/...ciation-of-forensic-counselors-vs-narconon.11

    thread talks about a trademark infringement lawsuit between narconon and the National association of forensic counselor henceforth refereed to as NAFC.

    Narconon was using the NAFC's logos, and was also lying about having counselors certified by the NAFC.

    This lawsuit is very disturbing, and by itself is evidence of false advertising on the part of narconon.
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  19. TorontosRoot Member

    *scientology
  20. Anonymous Member

    Somehow, the above link is incorrect - WWP Gremlins - here is the correct link:

    https://whyweprotest.net/community/...on-of-forensic-counselors-vs-narconon.118493/
  21. Anonymous Member

    More evidence in support of Narconon = Scientology:

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  22. Anonymous Member

    There is an Epic Post over at Narconon Reviews:

    Records Request Fulfilled: Michigan Attorney General releases complaints

    Written by Kelly on May 22, 2014 · 2 Memos

    In the fall of 2013, Narconon Reviews submitted a FOIA request to the Michigan Attorney General’s office for any complaints filed against Best Drug Rehab, A Forever Recovery, Narconon Freedom Center and Tranquility Detox.

    Unfortunately, fulfilling the request was going to be expensive. After some initial correspondence with the Michigan AG’s FOIA Department, and settling on a two-year time frame for the records to cover, the bill for the retrieval, review, examination, redaction, photocopying and shipment of the records came to $696.43. The cost was a tad prohibitive for a few volunteers with no outside funding.

    Fortunately, a very generous donor, who wants to remain anonymous, emerged to pay for the records. As a result, 33 formal complaints with the Michigan Attorney General are now available on Narconon Reviews that were previously unavailable on the Internet.

    Narconon watchers will recognize the familiar allegations of questionable treatment, fraudulent insurance billing practices, deceptive client recruitment tactics and dishonesty about the Narconon-Scientology connection. These are similar to complaints found elsewhere. Conversely, and as far as we know unique to Per Wickstrom’s Michigan rehabs, are complaints that mention abusive handing of clients by Nation of Islam members.

    In only a few cases, the Michigan Attorney General Department’s response was included in the records and primarily when the complainant was referred to another agency.

    Here’s hoping a larger investigation is at hand.

    [Much, much more at the link.]

    http://narcononreviews.net/narconon...rney-general-releases-complaints/#comment-575

    The PDFs I had time to look at are machine-readable/searchable!

    I'll find time to examine all the PDFs ASAP.
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  23. Cross-posted to the ESMB thread on this:

    http://www.forum.exscn.net/showthre...m-s-facilities&p=935286&viewfull=1#post935286

    This should come to the attention of Ethercat and AnonyMary.
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  24. Anonymous Member

    Hat Tip to CommunicatorIC for this by way of ESMB and originating at Tony Ortega's Bunker:

    http://tonyortega.org/2014/05/23/ri...orrific-ordeal-at-a-scientology-rehab-center/

    http://www.forum.exscn.net/showthre...-obsolete-Narconon-victim-receives-settlement

    From The Bunker:

    Once_Born • 3 hours ago

    *Mr Teague managed to obtain a settlement without a confidentiality agreement. As far as I know it is rare for Scientology to 'allow' this. I wonder if this is now going to become common.

    Before Narconon, the CofS was dealing with recently disaffected believers and had more influence over them for various reasons. People who are abused by Narconon have likely had no previous involvement with Scientology - they didn't even know that they were getting involved with the 'Church'. Because of this they may be less likely to be intimidated by the CofS.

    If this is the case, increasingly numbers of court cases involving Narconon may lead to more 'open' settlements (and some outright legal victories). This will tend to erode Scientology's fearsome reputation (and reveal ever more information about the CofS). In an environment of multiple court cases people will eventually begin to realize that there is nothing to fear but fear itself... and the floodgates may open.

    The Narconon situation is getting more interesting by the day.
    ___________________________________

    * (My emphasis)

    CommunicatorIC's post @ WWP:

    https://whyweprotest.net/community/...-center-sued-in-mi.104881/page-4#post-2457167
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  25. Anonymous Member

    Nifty tip from Xenubarb over at Reaching For The Tipping Point:

    From the Desk of... xenubarb

    May 23, 2014 at 3:12 pm

    SAMHSA recommends drug rehabs approved by the state. I just went to their web site and typed in ‘NARCONON.’ This time, got no results back!

    However, if you go to ADP.CA.GOV (alcohol drug programs) and type in Narconon several links come up, which gives the impression California endorses them.

    http://www.samhsa.gov/

    http://www.adp.ca.gov/
  26. DeathHamster Member

    Their 2013 PDF list has nine, three of which are closed:
    http://www.samhsa.gov/data/DASIS/NSSATS2013/NSSATS2013Dir_CD.pdf

    Did they smarten up in the last year or is this a difference between their online and "paper" lists?

    Edit: I searched for Narconon on their site and got the PDF list. The map search also hits Narconons.
    http://findtreatment.samhsa.gov/locator?sAddr=McAlester, OK, United States&submit=Go
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  27. tinfoilhatter Member

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  28. Anonymous Member

    Try this on for epic bullshit, with my emphasis!

    http://www.tulsaworld.com/news/supp...cle_d801653e-b720-508c-9f68-7bf08c79ee18.html

    Supporters Of Narconon Want Setback Investigated

    Posted: Thursday, December 19, 1991 12:00 am | Updated: 2:42 pm, Thu Sep 19, 2013.

    OKLAHOMA CITY (AP) - Supporters of a drug treatment
    center in northern Oklahoma demanded an investigation
    Wednesday into why the state Board of Mental Health denied
    certification for the center.

    "Basically, the Mental Health Board is claiming that Narconon
    is not a safe program," said Gary Smith, president of the
    Narconon Chilocco New Life Center.

    "They have obviously not looked at the probably 12-foot-high
    stack of medical documentation, testimony from medical experts,
    the clients that have gone through the program, plus a 25-year
    track record of people getting off of drugs."

    The Mental Health Board voted Friday not to certify the
    center, located on Indian land near Newkirk in Kay County.
    Board members said Monday in a statement prepared by their
    attorney that they were not satisfied based on evidence
    presented to them that adequate safety was provided to clients.
    Smith was joined at a news conference by about a half-dozen
    former and current Narconon clients. They said that since
    Friday, they have gathered more than 1,000 signatures on
    a petition of support.

    "What it shows is the public support for Narconon,"
    said Mark Lucidi, 28, a chef at the center. Lucidi said
    Narconon did what several nationally known substance abuse
    centers could not - rid him of a cocaine habit.

    "This program deserves to remain intact. Narconon gave
    me back my life, gave me back my dignity," he said.
    Among other things, the board questioned the safety of
    some of the center's practices, including using saunas to
    help rid a person's system of drugs.

    "They want to question a sauna being safe? Native Americans
    have been practicing the sweat lodge since time began,"
    said Rebecca Thomas, 23, a graduate of the Narconon program
    who said she had used drugs 10 years.

    Lucidi and others said the board's decision was based on
    a prejudice against the Church of Scientology, which is
    associated with Narconon. They all insisted that the teachings
    of Scientology are not forced upon them.

    Hat tip to DeathHamster, from here; https://whyweprotest.net/community/...sh-start-in-nevada.116633/page-3#post-2470932
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  29. fishypants Moderator


    ... who has been struck off and is currently being sued by his professional body, the National Association of Forensic Counselors.
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  30. DeathHamster Member

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  31. TorontosRoot Member

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  33. spirit76 Member

    Sorry, it's been a while. It's the June 27, 2014 episode.
  34. TorontosRoot Member

    The google tracking URLS should be removed, maybe visit the links, copy the *full* link and paste it back with an edit?
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  35. DeathHamster Member

    I found a good article on Narconon Chilocco that sheds light on the whole situation of how Narconon managed to keep things spinning after the Oklahoma Board of Mental Heath and Substance Abuse turned down their license.
    Now... Dr. Louis Jolyon West might have had a poor opinion of Narconon and Scientology, but he was a frigging qualified expert, mmm'kay? Maybe the expert is right--because he's an expert eh? (I can imagine the holocaust denier creeps using this in court to toss out the testimony of history experts. "They said that we're wrong and idiots. They're biased!" Still, the OBMHASA should have been more careful to bury them.)

    This is part three of a series, so I'll dig up the rest and tie them together.
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  36. Anonymous Member

    This is EPIC shit! Gary Smith never forgets how to lie like a rug.

    I'm very keen to read the other two parts!
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  37. DeathHamster Member

    Three more parts.
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  38. Anonymous Member

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  39. DeathHamster Member

    I wish she'd done a fifth one a few months later after the Department of Mental Health and Substance Abuse looked at the legal bill, folded, then hid under the bed for the next 22 years. (I'll double-check.)
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