Discussion in 'Narconon' started by peterstorm, Aug 8, 2009.
So Dave, is NN still in trouble? In more trouble perhaps?
No difference - - they are both "Zombie Mind Control - Brain Wash" sessions.
But this is how Scientology "Cures Drug Addiction" right? NOT!
They're now promoting the Narconon Program as a "holistic-like" program includes a 100% natural biophysical detox.
Perhaps they read my critical review article on their bullshit "holistic" claim
Narconon writers don't have a *Fu_ _ king clue what they are talking about concerning addiction. They use out dated nonsense
and gibberish taken from out dated articles written decades ago:
Now the truth:
These ^^^^^ clinical trials/tests have been going on since 2005 or before. A person can use Heroin forever if it is clinically clean.
Vancouver has a Safe Injection Site (Insite) and is building another. Montreal is now Building one. Police are not permitted into Insite to arrest any drug user no matter which drug they are using.
Also, prostitution is LEGAL in Canada and much of the drug market comes from East Side hookers.
Amsterdam is decades ahead of any other country in the world concerning addressing drug addiction in a progressive way. I don’t believe a country can ban a drug or alcohol and expect some public NOT to use it. The USA tried prohibition of alcohol and it was a FAIL.
I am not saying I agree or disagree, but I have seen too many people die in back alleys after sucking up water from mud puddles and overdosing, with no medical staff to save them like at Insite.
In East End Vancouver, there are more than 15,000 drug injections every day. As many as 20-50 drug dealers line the Library sidewalk and auction off their wares; calling out like in an auction what their product is. Ironically, the Vancouver Police Station is right across the street - - seldom are there any arrests.
this is what Vancouver Police do: (WARNING - graphic images) Part one of Six Parts
mod edit: video embed removed because of hidden sci hotlink. view video safely here:
Narconon doesn't know WTF they are talking about!
That series of videos is powerful stuff. Here's the YouTube playlist for all six in the series:
Yeah the photo was an attempt to show there is no difference. Narconon is Scientology. If it is Scientology, it cant be a medical practice.
I played one of these videos to the ESTO Officer (Narconon Canada - NN TR) when I was
there. This person told me they dididn't know much about drug addicts/addiction, so I chose
one of the more colouful ones. She couldn't believe what she was watching was in Canada.
That was my home for a while back in the 70's - - East Side Vancouver. Became a
"survival specialist",..., LOL,..., and survived - - no regrets really. Wouldn't be doing what I'm doing now probably, if 40 years back I was an Angel ......
But there were too many deaths - - far too many. All through the day and night, the sirens were
not from Police, they were ambulances - - some still alive, some not.
I guess why I posted the last couple , was to explain how Narconon really doesn't have a clue
what they are doing or who they are dealing with AND it's a chapter in my new book. I was down
on the East End Van just before I went to NN TR - - From Van Detox to the NN TR circus.
On bus now heading to Human Rights Commission - - hungry, must eat breakfast soon
When I clicked on this video it started playing, but also a new tab opened in my browser: http colon //wwpdotnarconon dot ca
Mods are working on the problem, thanks for the heads up warning to readers of this thread.
Edit: To watch the video use this link:
Vancouver's Downtown Eastside is certainly one of the worst areas in Canada, if not the worst. Here's the Wikipedia page about it: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Downtown_Eastside
This is the part of Vancouver that became even more notorious when many of the local prostitutes began disappearing, which led to investigations into why the police initially did so little about it. You can read about the outcome of all this on the Wikipedia page about the worst murderer in Canada's history, Robert Pickton:
Robert William "Willie" Pickton (born October 24, 1949) of Port Coquitlam, British Columbia, Canada is a former pig farmer and serial killer convicted of the second-degree murders of six women. He is also charged in the deaths of an additional twenty women, many of them prostitutes and drug users from Vancouver's Downtown Eastside. In December 2007 he was sentenced to life in prison, with no possibility of parole for 25 years — the longest sentence available under Canadian law for murder.
During the trial's first day of jury evidence, January 22, 2007, the Crown stated he confessed to forty-nine murders to an undercover police officer posing as a cellmate. The Crown reported that Pickton told the officer that he wanted to kill another woman to make it an even 50, and that he was caught because he was "sloppy".
There's more at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_William_Pickton
After you've lived in East End Vancouver, fighting scientology on the front lines
is really not too difficult a task - - time consuming huge, but how to survive the
fight, with intent to win, is simple ABC's coupled with what I was taught by Yvette
Shank's friend Aline Proulx (ESTO Officer), on cos covert Tech, I think we have the
upper hand and advantage.
Just left the Human Rights Commission - - on bus heading for Love shack,...,LOL]
Will post video etc over on other Thread later. Is NN TR in trouble??? Can you smell the
fish frying and clams baking? Some pretty awesome news today about these proceedings.
I smell steamed clams...
Indeed these videos are powerful, so much so, that they will be used in evidence in the
Human Rights Commission Cases to prove patients at NN TR were/are "Disabled/Handicap"
before and while at NN TR.
You can't argue with the moral code that these police officers have. They have the authority of the state and clear morale ethics.
Invited to be guest on Live Radio Show to air later this month (December) - - awesome guest line-up with experience about NarCONon. One specific NarCONon will be the subject, with recent controversy and Media attention. Will post date/time as we near event.
Is it NN TR? Unfortunately, I can't say which one,......., YET - - but this one should be a hard hit.
In trouble? They have never experienced the real trouble they are in now AND in 2012.
This should/could be their last Christmas Graduation this Friday at NN TR. Andre Ahern seems
to be working overtime with his statements (with H & B help). They really don't have much of a defence
and have severe credibilty issues. They have already been caught in lies, dead agenting, Fair Gaming,
harassment, and witness intimidation against me. The Hubbard "Attack" doctrine has cost
These Cases for Exploitation will be Precedent setting Cases for Quebec and Canada. The Commission
is proceeding under a different section than the other Case Precedent for the Coutu Case. The Commission
has never proceeded with a Case like this before. The Supreme Court of Canada has already handed
down their decision concerning addiction being a disability, so if they lose, appeal may be Moot.
TROUBLE!!?? - - far more than they expected and know - - YET
NN TR, ABLE, and the COS will be served another "Bomb Shell" early in the New Year. Been working
on this for many months now. Will gather more dox, info and Intell when in Vancouver.
AND one more wee surprise coming NN TR's way end of December and again in January - - $$ching - $$ching.
<3 <3 <3 WIN!!! <3 <3 <3
Impressive letter, David, very well-said, so true, how they get away selling this insane, unverified, non-medical but actually medically dangerous program for 30 THOUSAND dollars an addict based entirely on L. Ron Hubbard's crazy Scientology theories is a disgrace in every country that they are wrongfully allowed to operate this outrageous scam in.
And the Scientologists give themselves the authority of L. Ron Hubbard's state of 'Clear' with no wog morals or ethics encumbering them in any way whatsoever.
So, setting aside the regurgitation of stuff we all knew already... the main bit of actual news in that article is that the good doctor won't be punished for dancing with clams. Not really a win for us.
I can't remember: is the doc a Scilon? If not, then punishing him really isn't the point here. As long as the message is sent -- and I think it has been -- that it's not OK for doctors to pimp elRong or his quackery, he should be OK to continue real medical treatment. Excise the scam; continue with the science.
HellRazor spoke to this question quite well I thought http://forums.whyweprotest.net/threads/narconon-scientology-physician.91830/page-7#post-1992218
Happy Holidays David!
and please take a nice break and enjoy the holidays!
New NN TR Intel: Seems like NN TR is still up to their same Ol' hiring shennanigans. Ex-Senior Ethics Officer
relapses huge, then returns as Patient; now back "Saving Lives" as NN TR employee. Even with moral/ethical
financial debt issues and non-payments, NN TR really doesn't seem to care; as long as the Stats are up and
the cash is flowing in. Another name added to a few Summons Lists. (now that we know where certain individuals are located)
Yes, he is a Scilon Physician:
And also the Narconon Medical Director/Manager:
This quack was definately punished for dancing with clams. The income he received from the past 750-800 patients
has ENDED. He is forbidded to associate with NN TR in any way shape or form. Because of the College decision, Quebec
physicians would be wise to stay clear of NN TR.
The whole picture with the mulitple government and other agencies, on NN TR's Cases for a multitude of offences,
should mostly be Exposed in 2012.
This is a definite win for us. Demolishing the one doctor in question for specific acts would have been like killing a single cockroach in your kitchen; you know that there are a lot more hiding in the walls. Setting a precedent for any/all licensed physicians tempted to take the cult's money is like sterilizing all cockroaches and keeping them from multiplying. They can no longer reproduce and provide the much needed licensed approval to conduct the purif. Taking away a medical license is extremely difficult to accomplish and takes a very high profile situation like Conrad Murray killing Michael Jackson to accomplish. But this win stripped Narconon from having any licensed physician from associating with them. I'm sure that there will be several unsavory docs that will try, but that's where we step in. Reporting them and filing complaints will make sure that the spokes are always off the wheels.
From what I've been reading in this Situation Room (for a few years now), this is only the beginning. One needs to slowly weaken the structure to take down the building.
Was working on some info and received some confirmation on a guy at NN TR
who tried to commit suicide by jumping out third floor window. Absurd details
confirming NN TR's inability to treat patients with psycological issues which may
have led to their addictions. This one survived as opossed to the who died on
January 1, 2009 from a gun shot wound. The deceased had been through NN TR
numerous times, had a baby with a NN Staff member; was at at a party where
NN TR staff lived and a gun was present. Gun was passed over balcony and death.
Third confirmation in two days ago which confirm dox I read at NN TR concerning
young girl becoming pregnant at NN TR and sent away for an abortion.
Why NN TR's doors are still open, is beyond my understanding, but the more patients
and ex-staff I talk to, the more crazy the picture becomes.
Serious current safety issues came to light last week. Will be presenting documents to
the Ministry of Health and Social Services next week. Very serious - - shame on you Narconon.
If Narconon Trois-Rivieres thinks 2010-2011 was a nightmare for them, 2012 is looking
to be a year of real and tangible trouble. 2011 was a year of trial and error for me trying
to figure out how to deal with such a devious, lying cult,..., LOL
Tentative plans to return to Trois-Rivieres early in the New Year, following submission of
dox to the Health Ministry and hopefully meet with CBC TV for follow-up interview.
I expect additional complaints to Ministry of Health and Human Rights Commission by mid
January. We're also taking a "Freedom of Informations" route to demand Narconon/COS
They'll probably say, "Oh, we shipped them to Los Angeles." Seems to have worked for the Aussie clams, covering up a sailor's suicide.
Ya', like they said they disposed of my books when I went to pick them up!
The Commission finally has our student/patient files (boxes of them), they haven't even begun
to sort through them all yet. And my lawyer received my "medical" files from NN TR.
But there are still ore "Ethics Files" in certain places that we are entitled to. Whether they
will abide by our rquests is another question. They have ethics and OSA files/dossiers on me
at the Toronto ORG, Quebec ORG, and in the Dissolved Narconon Canada files. I saw them
along with the NN TR Exec Ethics Files.
Who knows where else the have "Declare" Files on me etc. We'll try to obtain as many of
the files as possible through government and health agency "Freedom of Information" methods.
If that's not satisfactory, will pray for govenment to load up another 100 police officers
into three buses and RAID them,..., LOL
I have no doubt this ^^^^^ will happen again, only on a much larger scale. Shortly after I left NN TR,
they were paranoid and expecting another raid. I received an email from a staff member asking me
to warn them if I knew of an upcoming Police Raid,..., - - as if I would even know,...,LOL - DUH!
What type of medical facility keeps ethic files on its patients? Sounds like blackmail files to me. How can they have medical files if the Scientology Purf is not medical?
Pfizer and Shrinks and now Anononymous - - three Top Enemies of the COS!
They just don't get it that their "Real Worst Enemy" is themselves - the L.Ron Tech.
They have Ethics Files on Patients, Staff, and people just taking Courses in the Staff Academy. I have an email from one NN Exec confirming these Ethics Files.
Black Mail Files? I agree 100% for sure. BASTARDS!!!
We'll be shining a few "Anal Flashlights" up some of their "Entheta Plugged" arses over the next
few months and see how much "Mouldy Crap" we find - - expecting lots, but no real surprises.
Their law firm, Heenan & Blakie should be rining up quite the tab over 2012.
Do not be surprised if NN staff sends the files out of Canada to NN Int in Los Angeles with some reason like "quality control review". Do not be surprised if they hide or destroy files in Canada. Do not be surprised if any files get hidden or destroyed that have been sent to Los Angeles. When you think scientology, you should also think crime syndicate.
To the "Mother Church". (Barfs)
The irony of this tastes so sweet!
Perfect material for a few episodes of Flashpoint. Canadians, doing it right.
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