Narconon Trois-Rivières sends addict home untreated, mother out $10,000

Discussion in 'Narconon' started by mnql1, Apr 9, 2012.

  1. Intelligence Member

    According to a dear friend who was OSA, it is Coersion. I had NO choice - if I did not write, I
    was "File-Fucked" as it was called at NN TR. I have the success story where I put an "Unhappy Face"
    instead of a "Happy Face" and Qual would not Attest to it. I had to change it. You can see clearly
    that it was changed,..., LOL. When I refused to memorize "All blunders and all illness, is caused ONLY
    by a PTS Condition", I told them to shove it! My file was shelved for three days. ^#$#^&%$7!!!!!!!

    New Wire Canada pressrelease tonight - - Andre/OSA will love it, but still saving info/dox for Court:)

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  2. Zak McKracken Member

    red tape? :confused:
    Is that what's been suppressing NN for so long?

  3. BlooAnon Member

    No, it's been what's been keeping it together.
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  4. DeathHamster Member

    The main thing is, if you don't write one of these Derpy Hooves success stories, you have to go back and do it all again. (And usually pay for it.) It's not how you actually feel, it's what you think that they want to hear.
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  5. DeathHamster Member

    The ones who aren't dead?
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  6. BlooAnon Member

    Or the ones that got kicked out and given 5$ in their pocket?
  7. Tin_Foil Member

    Warning, please, that one will spray mouth liquids on screen while reading.
  8. DeathHamster Member

    Pfizer has been slow on pay, so I've got a side-deal with Acer.
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  9. Intelligence Member

    News Wire Canada - Press Release (April 11, 2012)

    Just waiting for Editor to approve, then post:)

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  10. Anonymous Member

    Wasn't the CBC broadcast a couple of days ago and not tomorrow? Or am I just reading that wrong?
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  11. Intelligence Member

    INTO LATIN AMERICA - very NICE, eh? :-

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  12. Intelligence Member

    You are VERY right - me bad. But promise it will be broadcast April 12, 2012 on Youtube.

    Will make a note in the comments. Hope the Editor sees it and corrects???
  13. Intelligence Member

    Will try tomorrow:)

  14. Yes, they can lie all they want to but you, me, and most people here know that they are solicited testimonials. I don't even know if the word "testimonial" should even apply here considering we are talking about the shitty cult of Scientology. Your word, STORIES, is probably better. They can lie all they want but those success stories are just for their benefit and the fact that one can't finish a course or action until one writes one shows them for what they are. If they were really honest and decent they wouldn't make writing a success story a mandatory requirement for finishing.
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  15. Intelligence Member

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  16. BigBeard Member

    Since "Success Stories" are required, e.g., coerced, in order to move through the program, I'd think from a legal case standpoint the only thing they're good for is proving the coercion. And maybe toilet paper.

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  17. RightOn Member

    I often wonder why reputable treatment centers do not put a bigger fight to expose Narconon?
    Or is it just the usual fear of fair game?
    If it is not the fear of fair game, it would only be to their benefit to lift the veil of sercrecy on Narconon, and in turn these places would gain more patients and help a lot more people. Especially if they offer their services for free. I wonder if they are willing to help others for free?
    Maybe a whole big push to contact these reputable places world wide and let them know what Narconon is all about and what they are up to. Ask these places if they would be willing to help out these poor victims of Narconon and get them out of there and on the right track to being cured instead of taking Scientology courses and ingesting oil and niacin.
    Or is there an obvious reason why this can't be done/tried that I am missing?
  18. grebe Member

    Since 1990, MDs have to be careful about calling out quacks.

    Prior to Wilk filing suit, Scientology ran "Operation Sore Throat," which involved planting spies at the AMA.
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  19. RightOn Member

    but would they really have to "call them out" and call them quacks?
    Alls they would have to do is explain Narconon's methods for getting people off drugs.
    Expose that mega doeses of niacin are administered, and also that oil, saunas are used as well as the Scientology tone scale.
    They dont' have to say a damn thing on whether feel it is right or wrong.
    Just expose the treatment. Don't other treatment centers tell people exactly what their methods are?
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  20. grebe Member

    Simon Singh tried that. He said that chiropractors were making "bogus claims," for example that asthma can be treated with chiropractic, and the BCA sued him for libel, putting his life on hold for a couple of years.

    Doctors believe that the public wants its "alternative" medicine. Doctors aren't going to fight against the public particularly when they're likely to be sued.
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  21. RightOn Member

    no need for them to even get into calling "bogus claims" though.
    My point is, why can't they just tell the public what the Narconon method is without it being libel?
    They can even ask for a quote from Narconon themselves on what treatments and methods they are using and that they use the teachings of L Ron Hubbard.
    Hell, they can even quote Ahearn now! and say that "only three people were recruited into Scientology"
    that was a direct quote from Ahearn and printed publically.
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  22. grebe Member

    So if a doctor says, "Narconon involves taking xxxx mg of niacin daily, xx ounces of oil, xx hours of sauna, etc.," you think the public will get the message?

    I think the doctor has to say, "Narconon is bad," in some concrete way, else the public will believe the doctor is promoting Narconon.
  23. RightOn Member

    I guess I was thinking more on the lines of
    "this is what they do and they also use the teachings of L Ron Hubbard"
    and "this is what we do"
    I can't imagine if anyone heard the amount of niacin and oil that patients ingest along with how long they are on course, and the amount of time in the sauna, that they would think that would be a good thing.
    I think if they knew about the niacin and oil alone they would look into whether or not someone with a compromised liver in the first place should ingest that?
    I know I would look into it.
    I know some of these parents and loved ones are desperate for help and for something to work.
    I wonder how many know about the exact methods used (not counting the tone scale crap) at Narconon before they put someon in there.
  24. Intelligence Member

    Just in a few minutes ago! Incredible.

    Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2012 17:01:43 -0400
    To: <> (Producer/Reporter of this Thread Article TV News)

    YES, reporter wants to hear more from this one and two more others.

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  25. Anonymous Member

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  26. Mutante Member

    double muff uppercut!
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  27. Intelligence Member

    Oh' SHIT, there's that ^^^ chicken again that makes me hungry,..., LOL :)

  28. Intelligence Member

    I can NOT believe this is happening! It seems so surreal. There are two more Moms besides
    this one who filed her Formal Complaint today. I am so busy right now, that I could find time
    to talk on skype for a couple hours with these other two. I said tomorrow, I promise.


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  29. Anonymous Member

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  30. Intelligence Member

    I just received a six month OP's Intelligence lesson. I have a friend, one of 3,200 Fb Friends
    that I had a good gut feeling about,.., and I was right. AND, the person is on the Good Guy's side:)

    The ones I felt were "Playing me for Intel" I was right! BASTARDS!!!

    Me going to lay ma' weary mind/body horizontal and fall asleep while digesting all of today,.., LOL -
    should take a few nights :)

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  31. Anonymous Member

    Don't get played dude. Get sleep and stay frosty. If I was playing against you I would try really hard to place some fake testimony to discredit your efforts. So they will.
  32. jensting Member

    The ones that narCONon does not track?

    Best Regards

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  33. Intelligence Member

    It's all good now. Took a couple days to track down source of the "Dead Agenting".

    We knew this was going to happen - - actually surprised it took so long. Several months
    ago, I submitted several dox to government investigators depicting this exact scenario
    that would surface, so more than I was waiting for it.

    It's already turned around and will bite them hard in due course.

    Very nice, long sleep last night - - up early for Intel debrief and will go back to bed soon
    for a couple more hours nap. I feel awesome:):):)

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  34. mnql1 Member

    Here, with French subtitles, is the report that aired on CBC's The National on April 9, 2012:

    The video can also be downloaded using the link below:
    scientology-rehab-tomlinson-040912 STFR.avi
    File size: 28.77 MB
    Duration: 2 min. 29 sec.
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  35. Xenu Is Lord Member

    Asshole says they are not responsible for peoples behavior before they came? But that is what they took the 10,000.00 to cure! I wonder if they will still claim him as a success?
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  36. Xenu Is Lord Member

    More on their medical stats and the wonder cure of the Sauna LOL
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  37. DeathHamster Member

  38. I realize that this off topic and I know that the mother is out 10 grand. I hope she gets it back without any hassle or without signing some coercive agreement but can you imagine how much worse it would have been if her son did get Narconon's bogus treatment? In a somewhat strange way he dodged a bullet.

    Back on topic, I sure hope the other networks carry this story. CTV, Global; where are you?
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  39. peterstorm Member

    Merci beaucoup!
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  40. Anonymous Member

    the stupid it hurts

    "Best Promising Practice Award" ?
    "Licensed by the Department of Children and Familes and the FADAA"?
    Did anybody check this out to see if that is true?

    Nope Narconon has nothing to do with Scientology! nope not a thing!

    Cheryl AS. Alderman PURIFICATION RUNDOWN PROCEDURE Source 178 2006-05-01

    Cheryl Jones Jaye NEW HUBBARD SOLO AUDITOR COURSE, PART ONE Source 131 2000-09-01
    Cheryl Jones Jaye SELF ANALYSIS COURSE Source 195 2007-10-01

    Doris Caitak NEW OT IV Advance EU 125 1995-12-01
    Doris Caitak OT ELIGIBILITY Advance EU 131 1997-07-07
    Doris Caitak NEW OT VIII Freewinds 74 2009-08-01
    Doris Caitak SCIENTOLOGY 8-80 COURSE Freewinds 74 2009-08-01
    Doris Caitak SCIENTOLOGY 8-8008 COURSE Freewinds 74 2009-08-01
    Doris Caitak THE CREATION OF HUMAN ABILITY COURSE Freewinds 74 2009-08-01
    Doris Caitak DIANETICS 55! COURSE Freewinds 74 2009-08-01
    Doris Caitak SCIENTOLOGY: THE FUNDAMENTALS OF THOUGHT COURSE Freewinds 74 2009-08-01
    Luca Martinazzi PTS/SP Course Source 140 2002-11-01
    Luca Martinazzi ETHICS SPECIALIST COURSE Source 143 2003-02-01
    Luca Martinazzi ROUTE TO INFINITY Freewinds 52 2004-03-01
    Luca Martinazzi NEW OT VI HUBBARD SOLO NOTS AUDITING COURSE Source 160 2004-11-01
    Luca Martinazzi ELIGIBILITY FOR OT LEVELS CHECK Source 216 2011-08-01

    There are also Handlemans listed in COS completions
    Who the hell are those two doctors anyways?
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