Nation Of Islam Member joins the discussion

Discussion in 'News and Current Events' started by Anonymous, Feb 22, 2013.

  1. Anonymous Member

    From ESMB:
    Cross-posted to the Facebook group Scientology Invasion of the Black Community:
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  2. Anonymous Member


    That must have been some parting of ways between Barney and Jesse back in the day. "Sorry, I can't see you any more, my weird UFO cult forbids it." "So does mine..."

    Hopefully he wants dialog rather than agreement.
  3. Anonymous Member

    This is surprising. I wonder where it will lead. Will he dare to look at the Scientology corporation's crimes and abuses, or will he parrot the company's excuses?
  4. Anonymous Member

    I imagine with all of the books out and very public that folks are noticing some problems with the cos.

    Still, this certainly looks like a nice start to informing the NOI that they have been swindled.
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  5. Anonymous Member

    I would probably be banned at the hugbox for what I wanted to post in response to this obvious NOI troll, which would be "So you as a member of the NOI cult comes here to a forum made up of ex-members of a UFO-pyramid scheme cult looking to open an honest dialogue related to the unholy merger of said NOI cult with said UFO cult, thinking that one cult leader's words will convince us this is not a scam?"

    Reading the responses to this post makes me shake my head. Sometimes the people at ESMB can be so fucking gullible.
  6. pooks Member

    While there's definitely some very gullible people at ESMB, there's also some serious hard core exes over there. The ESMB welcome wagon always starts out with warm welcomes but if this guy pushes the Scn/NOI agenda he'll get hammered.
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  7. Anonymous Member

    I am holding myself back at the moment on the slim chance that the dude is real. If he is real this might open some avenues of action to drive the low-tier NOI people away from COS. If he isn't the hugbox is gonna deconstruct him in the long run.
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  8. Anonymous Member

    Hi Barney. Have you even listened to the recordings of Hubbard bashing your prophet? Or the ones where he talks about Africans in a quite derogatory way? Didn't think so. I wonder if you are even a real person.

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  9. Anonymous Member

    If I was in a militant money cult with a bunch of overweight women and soft white kids....

    I would hypnotize a bunch of angry black men to do my bidding.

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  10. BR549 Member

    "Lone Star" said it best in response to the NOI guy:

    "Farrakhan, aka Calypso Louie, is cut from the same cloth as LRH. He's a cult leader. And like LRH he's quite mad.

    Louie used to talk about the mothership coming to take the NOI home. So he's not averse to mixing in a little space opera to his controlling bat shit crazy religion, which is not true Islam btw."

    He hit the nail on the head. :) Farrakhan is just out for money and power. Same type organization, different leader.
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  11. Random guy Member

    I would not worry too much. The ESMB are more than capable to fend for themselves, they are just a bit more polite than WWP.
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  12. Anonymous Member

    I don't know if I would use the word "polite". Some of them viciously went after others that openly questioned the veracity of crazy & wild unverified stories coming from newcomers that posted there. One has to keep in mind that many on ESMB believed in some fucking crazy shit for decades without questioning it so they gang up on others that try to use critical reasoning when faced with a tall tale.
  13. Anonymous Member

    A response from Mr. Muhammad.

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  16. Anonymous Member

    No answer yet to the following first question.
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    No answer yet to the following second question.
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  20. Anonymous Member

    I just spotted this story by Neville Chamberlin:
    "The main person I mention was Lensworth Small. Lensworth came across from the West Indies in the 1950s on the banana boat passage(literally). He worked by day in a factory, by night he was on the HPA Course and also studied law. He was a very spiritual person and had a lot of power. One evening on the HPA Course he suddenly stood up, pointed at the two nearest light bulbs and they exploded. Lensworth was dedicated to Scn and Hubbard. He established his own law firm in South London and became an influential local figure, especially during the unsettled times in Brixton.

    Hubbard used to refer to Lensworth as "My pet nigger". Any time there was a question raised about race or the lack of anyone other than white people the GO trotted Lensworth out to "Dead-agent" the story.

    Lensworth was a fun guy and a true friend. He had a passion for philately, especially stamps from the West Indies. He also liked to bet on the horses. I remember in 1966, a group of us had worked out the best way to pick a winner was to assess the runner's names on a meter until you came up with one horse. We all bet on it and guess what? IT WON at 8/1.The next week we all gathered again. This time there were several more joining in. The list was assessed and the horse picked. We all plunged on it.Guess what? IT LOST! There were heavy recriminations, accusations that the person assessing the list didn't know how to read the meter. It was crazy, but looking back, it served us right!

    Lens worth became more and more mired in the cult. He began to draw on the firm's funds to pay for Flag services and in the end got into so much trouble that he was "struck off" as a solicitor. Demands were made by the Receivers in Bankruptcy that the cult repay any monies paid across to Flag.
    Lensworth was now "persona non grata". He used to spend his days going to St Hill and sitting on the grass bank looking at the Castle. He died a broken old man."
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    "Later, when Minister Farrakhan made known that we would be involved in the study of Dianetics, I immediately contacted Jesse to ask if He would be willing to tell his story to Minister Farrakhan so that Minister Farrakhan would have the benefit of his knowledge and experience. Minister Farrakhan agreed to sit down with Jesse but due to scheduling conflicts, the meeting did not take place. However, the invitation has never been rescinded."

    It hope Mr. Muhammed will look at the totality of the evidence against Scn, and not solely rely on a private meeting between Farrakhan and Jesse Prince. Sadly I think perhaps Jesse is the only one who can talk to him, just because he is a fellow black man. I think it would benefit them if they can get beyond that.
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  25. Anonymous Member

    Next question.

  26. Anonymous Member

    Oh oh. There is now evidence that Barney Muhhamad previouisly referred to Tory Christman as a "she-devil" on the Farrakhan Factor Freedom Forums. The evidence is that: (1) someone using the identity "theactualfacts" made such statement on the Freedom Forums dated September 15, 2010 and September 17, 2010; and (2) Barney Muhhamad is now using the name "theactualfacts" on ESMB. Discussion starts at:

    Hug-box time may be over.

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  27. Ogsonofgroo Member

    Hm, yeh, not a common thingy tho, thats why I like having a voice over there, as much as here, 'cept we're funnier here imho, and will search dox etc., over there, a bunch of ex's, this is what the world needs less of, I mean by people not joining cults etc,. and this is why.

    *ogs sulks away after making usual little/minimal sense*
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  28. Ogsonofgroo Member

    He/she was directly asked if he was the same poster, and immediately fucked off-line, my theory is that cult and Farky-what's-his-shit haz sent him onna mission.
    Its a seriously run to the outhouse with leg-irons and the shits. Am popping corn for all, will that be butter or enjivita or both?

    There is impending idiocy and lutz to behold, me sure of it.
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  29. Anonymous Member

    Another question.

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  30. Random guy Member

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  31. afternon Member

    This definately wont end well!
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  32. Anonymous Member

    So far, this appears to have been a minor foot-bullet. Material from the Facebook group Scientology Invasion of the Black Community has been cross-posted to ESMB and here for months now, and quite frankly it never got that much attention. The thread on ESMB now has 179 replies and 4,762 views. People are seeing things that were previously cross-posted but ignored or not noticed. Mr. Muhammad has not posted since yesterday.
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  33. Anonymous Member

    Insightful comment in response to the video of Minister Farrakhan.
  34. Anonymous Member

    Explanation on ESMB of the UNOI video.
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  35. Anonymous Member

    Another good question from ESMB:
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  36. Anonymous Member

    Oh, I bet both groups see themselves as only using each other for their own purposes. Dangerous game, dat.
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  37. Anonymous Member

    Could Islam be compatible with Scientology?

    NOI is its own unique flavour of Muslim belief, but still...?
  38. Chipshotz Member

    Thanks for summarizing this.
  39. So are we going to waste out time debating a lost cause? The guy is just practicing his Training Routine "Bullbait" that he was passively hypnotized to

    Can't wait till the angry black men get to Training Routine "you do what I say or I make you do what I say". Also known as "Tone-40" or "8-C" to cult members. I expect more Rex Fowler situations to arise out of this unholy union. Publics watch out.
  40. Random guy Member

    No, scientology is specifically not compatible with Islam. According to Hubbard, the whole religion is the result of Mohammad (the prophet) trying to speed up trade, and is based on idea implanted by Xenu & Co. Having said that, the NOI are hardly Muslims either, with their "Mother Wheel", evil scientist Jacub genetically engineering the "white man" and UFO sightings. They are really more of a UFO cult with a Muslim rather than Christian or Buddhist veneer.
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