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New AVO on Aaron Saxton, this time by Cyrus Brooks

Discussion in 'Fair Game Reports and Personal Experiences' started by Gottabrain, Feb 6, 2010.

  1. Vir Member

    Re: New AVO on Aaron Saxton, this time by Cyrus Brooks

    The lawyer gives good advice - it pretty much is what he has to say - but I think Aaron is doing the right thing by not staying away from the protests.

    Watch what you say always, but don't back down.
  2. PodPeople Member

    Re: New AVO on Aaron Saxton, this time by Cyrus Brooks

    Caged chickens and roosters flap, bawww, crow, flap, poop, jump, flap, hop, jump, flap, squawk all day long. But at the end of the day, they're right where they started, wallowing in their own crap.

    The free bird does indeed fly and sometimes they even sing, but always on their own terms. Good for you, Aaron.
  3. Anonymous Member

    Re: New AVO on Aaron Saxton, this time by Cyrus Brooks

    If Aaron' opts not to follow his attorney's advice to stay away from the protest, and, as a result, gets another AVO summons...will there be another fundraiser?

    I'm not being a smart ass - I am just curious. The money from many, I know, had no defined restrictions (after the fact) on how it was to be used. However, the initial plea was initiated at Anon's suggestion so that he secure solid legal counsel. If chooses to ignore the advice of the counsel he said was needed (and that Anon and exes paid for)...well, I just find that interesting.
  4. Re: New AVO on Aaron Saxton, this time by Cyrus Brooks

    It depends if you want Lulz or not.
  5. Skeptic1337 Member

    Re: New AVO on Aaron Saxton, this time by Cyrus Brooks

    Do not question the hivemind!
  6. Re: New AVO on Aaron Saxton, this time by Cyrus Brooks

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  7. Smurf Member

    Re: New AVO on Aaron Saxton, this time by Cyrus Brooks

    Just... please... shadow Aaron wherever he is and goes the day of the protest... even if Aaron splits to get some lunch somewhere... he needs an escort armed with a videocamera.

    Aaron's presence will majorly piss them off.. and they won't pull any punches to set him up or try to provoke him...

    I would urge Aaron to use caution if he is going to speak and use words wisely... what would he say if the AVO judge was standing next to him?
  8. Re: New AVO on Aaron Saxton, this time by Cyrus Brooks

    I vote for sexy Gothic Vampire Lady with the awesome lenses to escort him.

    Double win Aaron on Vid with sexy Lady
  9. tamphex Member

    Re: New AVO on Aaron Saxton, this time by Cyrus Brooks

    It wasn't an attorney, it was a barrister. And the advice given was not to stay away from protests; it was to cease any and all communication with the individual(s) mentioned in the AVO(s). With no standing order or interm given, that means he is well within his legal rights to attend the protests.

    All the advice given means is that if either of the individuals come out of the Org during the protest, he is not to make contact with them. If they come across the road within close proximity of his person, the police in the immediate vicinity are to be notified (we'll be ensuring the police watching over the protest are informed before hand of the situation pertaining to this)
  10. Skeptic1337 Member

    Re: New AVO on Aaron Saxton, this time by Cyrus Brooks

    Tamph your facts have no place here on WWP.

    Enjoy your raid.
  11. Smurf Member

    Re: New AVO on Aaron Saxton, this time by Cyrus Brooks

    I'm still waiting for the shirtless photo he promised his No. #1 gay SoCal fan a long ago. :-P
  12. Re: New AVO on Aaron Saxton, this time by Cyrus Brooks

    Its a Guy ????
  13. Smurf Member

    Re: New AVO on Aaron Saxton, this time by Cyrus Brooks

    What's the difference between an attorney & a barrister in Oz? I thought they were the same.
  14. Re: New AVO on Aaron Saxton, this time by Cyrus Brooks

    fixed
  15. Smurf Member

    Re: New AVO on Aaron Saxton, this time by Cyrus Brooks

    Last I checked, I still had a penis.
  16. Re: New AVO on Aaron Saxton, this time by Cyrus Brooks

    No no I thought you where talking about Vampire Lady
  17. tamphex Member

    Re: New AVO on Aaron Saxton, this time by Cyrus Brooks

    ;D

    Will do Skep!

    Also in regards to people having any possible concerns about Aaron being singled out for any shenanigans by the Organization of Scientology during the protest; I'll be shadowing him for the entire time with a handful of camera anons also shadowing me. For a change I'll also be taking my usual approach to the protests down a few notches, just in case they're eager to catch me doing something worthy of catching on film which may "dirty my reputation" ...
  18. Anonymous Member

    Re: New AVO on Aaron Saxton, this time by Cyrus Brooks

    If you look at the previous page ITT, Aaron's message is where he is discussing some feedback/advice he received, he says in #3 "I have been advised not to protest." That contradicts what you state above, Tamp.

    I understand he is not legally prohibited from protesting. That wasn't my point. Attorney, Barristor, Candlestick Maker - whomever is being paid to provide Aaron with legal advice, ACCORDING TO AARON, suggested not protesting.

    My post wasn't about the specific details of the laws or what he legally can and can't do. It was about someone who posts what his BARRISTER suggest he do/not do, and then he says he's not going to follow it - that he's going to protest anyway.

    When I have utilized the services of the legal professionals in my IR life, I pay them big bucks and I follow their suggestions because that's what I hired them for - their expertise.
  19. Smurf Member

    Re: New AVO on Aaron Saxton, this time by Cyrus Brooks

    And, by God, keep your hands to yourself this time, Tamphex.

    Those Scilons don't like bearhugs, even if they're from well-meaning anons.
  20. AnonOfStout Member

    Re: New AVO on Aaron Saxton, this time by Cyrus Brooks

    Cameras have always been the very best tool available to us. I, for one, hope that one of the two scilons DO come out to start some faggotry! Getting that on cam won't only torpedo their AVOs, it'll open a big fucking door for counter-litigation, like Mack Truck sized door!

    Enjoy the protest!
  21. Anonymous Member

  22. RightOn Member

    Re: New AVO on Aaron Saxton, this time by Cyrus Brooks

    any chance media will show for the next protest?
  23. tamphex Member

    Re: New AVO on Aaron Saxton, this time by Cyrus Brooks

    That advice did not come from the barrister. I should know, I was standing right next to him when the barrister said attending protests is absolutely fine. Have you given any thought to the possibility that the advice about attending protests a bad idea perhaps coming from friends etc?

    Got any doubts about that, please go ahead and email Aaron directly for confirmation. Nothing I have said contradicts what Aaron has posted in that comment you have quoted, in fact that sentence you quoted back to me as evidence shows a distinct lack of any mention of it coming from any legal counsel.

    How about you shove your big bucks up your ill informed arse?
  24. Vir Member

    Re: New AVO on Aaron Saxton, this time by Cyrus Brooks

    thanks for clearing that up, tamphex.
  25. Optimisticate Member

    Re: New AVO on Aaron Saxton, this time by Cyrus Brooks

    I do hereby volunteer if Tamphex would like to pull one of those moves again!
  26. Re: New AVO on Aaron Saxton, this time by Cyrus Brooks


    LOL XD
  27. Anonymous Member

    Re: New AVO on Aaron Saxton, this time by Cyrus Brooks

    I hope Aaron's Barristerfag goes for costs on both occasions
  28. Re: New AVO on Aaron Saxton, this time by Cyrus Brooks

    Why hello there child of the darkness, greetings from chilly holland
  29. Anonymous Member

    Re: New AVO on Aaron Saxton, this time by Cyrus Brooks

    rumpole.jpg
    "We'll give it a good show Aaron m'lad"
  30. Ogsonofgroo Member

    Re: New AVO on Aaron Saxton, this time by Cyrus Brooks

    Rumpole of the Bailey was one of the bestest! ^^^
  31. Re: New AVO on Aaron Saxton, this time by Cyrus Brooks


    Aaron you have our support and our admiration BECAUSE you have stood up and done the right thing. THAT should always be rewarded with forgiveness and support. You are doing what needs to be done to take down this cult, and THAT is why we stand with you! xo For taking the bullet and continuing to fight!
  32. Sponge Member

    Re: New AVO on Aaron Saxton, this time by Cyrus Brooks

    If they pass the test for being frivolous and/or vexatious AVO applications then they will have to cough up for Aaron's legal costs. What that test is and what the judicial guidelines are I don't know.
    By itself, not losing to having an AVO put on you does not automatically grant you the right to claim your legal costs from the failed AVO applicant, yet if they win then they do get their costs off you. That's the impression I get from the published information about AVOs.
    As always, Rumpole of the Bailey, knows best of course.
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  33. Anonymous Member

    Re: New AVO on Aaron Saxton, this time by Cyrus Brooks


    (3) A court is not to award costs against an applicant who is the person for whose protection an apprehended domestic violence order is sought unless satisfied that the application was frivolous or vexatious.


    Division 4 - Costs
    213.

    214.
    215.
  34. Rockyj Member

    Re: New AVO on Aaron Saxton, this time by Cyrus Brooks

    I bet you always wore clean underwear only because your Mommy told you that you should always wear clean underwear in case you get hit by a car.
    I love you!
  35. DamOTclese Member

    Re: New AVO on Aaron Saxton, this time by Cyrus Brooks

    Does AS even know who this Cyrus cunt is?
  36. Anonymous Member

    Re: New AVO on Aaron Saxton, this time by Cyrus Brooks

    You didn't read the thread did you. He is the head of the Au Org. Sydney, pretty sure everyone down there knows who Cyrus is.

    So yes.
  37. Kilia Member

    Re: New AVO on Aaron Saxton, this time by Cyrus Brooks

    *raising hand* I would like to know this as well.
  38. Anonymous Member

    Re: New AVO on Aaron Saxton, this time by Cyrus Brooks

    I just looked it up.
  39. Anonymous Member

    Re: New AVO on Aaron Saxton, this time by Cyrus Brooks



    A solicitor is closest to what the US might call an attorney. Clients come to them, they align sides with the client.

    A barrister has done years of training and is a specialist in their area but they are considered much more an officer of the court than a solicitor. What this means usually is that they accept clients when a solicitor rings them and says 'my client needs an expert to assist him in his murder case'. A barrister shouldn't refuse a case (even if this means providing advice it is unlikely to succeed) unless there are scheduling issues, assuming the person can afford to pay. What this means is that one day a barrister can represented an accused murderer, but the next day he might be hired by the government to prosecute an accused murderer, they are officers of the court/legal system, it is often barristers who run public inquiries in too controversial matters. Also a barrister cant share their office with another barrister, they are really meant to be independent but what they can do is share an office building/floor and secretaries, photo copiers etc.

    In a murder trial etc where there is a solicitor and barrister, the barrister will do the talking/quesitoning etc and the solicitor is more the client's lawyer and does a lot of research and is in fact called the 'instructing solicitor', i.e they instruct the barrister what their client wants.


    Where the confusion comes in is with the registration. A solicitor (in the state of NSW) can in fact call themselves a 'solicitor and barrister', so there is some potential to mislead there.

    Also, FYI, barristers wear wigs and funny robes in any court above the local court, http://lh3.ggpht.com/_S-YCOiTnH2E/SiQWasJU34I/AAAAAAAAA2I/qWM4j8eZ-ts/s288/470664 fg0119.jpg

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