New York Rescue Workers Detoxification Project

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  1. Belladonna Member

    New York Rescue Workers Detoxification Project


    OP will be a series of ongoing updates

    New York Rescue Workers Detoxification Project

    139 Fulton St Suite 515
    New York NY 10038
    Carol Hamaker, New NY Rescue Workers Detoxification Project, Executive Director
    Carol Hamaker - Scientology Service Completions | Truth About Scientology Statistics Project
    212 587 3990
    212 587 3998

    Advisory Board
    Robert Amidon, M.A., J.D.
    Robert B. Amidon | A Law Corporation

    James Barnes, C.H.P.
    Scientology - James G. Barnes a Scientologist - find out what I have gained from Scientology... Personal website "I am a Scientologist"
    James Barnes - Scientology Service Completions | Truth About Scientology Statistics Project

    Marie Cecchini, M.S.
    Marie Cecchini - Scientology Service Completions | Truth About Scientology Statistics Project

    James Dahlgren, M.D., Ph.D.

    Bob Graves, M.S.
    Bob Graves - Scientology Service Completions | Truth About Scientology Statistics Project

    Joseph Higgins
    (firefighter now paid by the cult, see below)

    Steven Kim, Ph.D. "President and CEO of Better Care, Inc., a business involved in long term care and property management"

    Kathleen Kerr, M.D.
    Kathleen Kerr - Scientology Service Completions | Truth About Scientology Statistics Project

    William Meggs, M.D., Ph.D.
    Allergy & Immunology, Emergency Medicine, Internal Medicine, Medical Toxicology, North Carolina

    Keith Miller
    (Founder of HealthMed, co-founder of FASE)

    Israel (Izzy) Miranda

    Ernest Pecoraro, D.C.

    David E Root, M.D., M.P.H.

    Carl Smith
    (FASE, FASE Pesticide Project)

    (Raphael) Ray Warshaw

    Rena Weinberg

    Jim Woodworth, C.C.D.C (President)

    George Yu, MD
    Associate Professor, Urology, George Washington University Medical School

    Joe Higgins -
    paid by the clinic

    Captain Sean Donahue

    Barbara Boursiquot (! they spelled her name wrong)

    Bill Keegan (William Keegan Jr),%202001&pagewanted=all

    Sebastian Raspanti
    Firefighter, retired 2008, attended Hollywood Celebrity Center 35th anniv. gala in 2004

    Wikipedia entry:
    Downtown Medical
    Downtown Medical - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Xenu-Directory 990 filings
    International Academy of Detoxification Specialists: Form 990 filings
  2. Belladonna Member

    Re: New York Rescue Workers Detoxification Project

    Directors and physicians, past and present
    New York City

    Drs. Absylom Kwabena Nyamekye and Apryl Mamzette McNeil
    Android Cat first brought this to light,_2006_legal.htm$FILE/ATTPC2K0/lc208330.pdf

    Williston Park

    Steven Lager, DO
    No longer located in Williston Park; he's now in Westchester County
    His former location, 465 Willis Avenue, Williston Park, is now occupied by another physician who has been there for three years and has no knowledge of the former tenant.,2933,238238,00.html
    The Illustrated News, LI, on the Williston Park opening
    Tom Cruise Opens Rescue Workers Detox Clinic

  3. Belladonna Member

    Re: New York Rescue Workers Detoxification Project

    Fundraisers, celebrity supporters and donors, support from politicians

    Sherilyn Pillsbury
    "Independent Law Practice Professional" Las Vegas area
    2007 Las Vegas event attended by Usher, Quincy Jones, Chris Tucker, Kenneth 'Babyface' Edmonds, Nikki Pantenburg, Danny Masterson, Leah Remini, Bijou Phillips, Lauren Hudman, Miss Teen Nevada USA 2008

    2007 North Carolina Fundraiser
    Jodi Bettis, FDNY Lt Patrick McGreen
    2007 NYC Fundraiser
    Tom Cruise, Katie Holmes

    Bijou Phillips, Laura Prepon; fundraiser for NYPD/NYFD 9/11 Rescue Workers hosted by Danny Masterson held at Beso on March 5, 2009 in Hollywood
    Also Eva Longoria, Simon Cowell, Leah Remini, Marisol Nichols, Taron Lexton, Chris Masterson, Jenna Elfman, Jenny McCarthy, Chelsea Handler, Beth Riesgraf, Timothy Hutton, Wilmer Valderrama, Charlie Cox, Kate Mara, Micheal Pena, Juliette Lewis, Bradley Cooper, retired firefighters Joseph Higgins, Lt. Owen McCaffrey, and Lt. Jay Fagan, President of NY Rescue Workers Detoxification Project Jim Woodward

    Ron Pollack

    "Answering the Call: Ground Zero's Volunteers" (2005)
    Narrated by Kathleen Turner
    written/produced by Lou Angeli
    Bunny Dubin
    Freedom Medal winner
  4. Belladonna Member

    Re: New York Rescue Workers Detoxification Project

    At the Williston Park "opening," at the office of Steven Lager, OsteoHealth, 2004
    Tom Cruise Opens Rescue Workers Detox Clinic

    The office was gone two years later.
  5. Belladonna Member

    Re: New York Rescue Workers Detoxification Project

    Manhasset NY (Long Island) - we have a new LI facility?

    News12 Long Island
    The New York Rescue Workers Detoxification Project Mary Mucci, April 13, 2009
    Blogs 12 Long Island Blog Archive The New York Rescue Workers Detoxification Project

    Dr. Kamau Kokayi, MD - Patients Medical, New York Homeopath

  6. Davey's Cat Member

    Re: New York Rescue Workers Detoxification Project

    I've had the pleasure of discussing Narconon's scientific methods with Marie Cecchini M.S. before:

    If she's involved you can bet that this will be flaky apologetics of the worst sort - her previous study about Narconon in schools was riddled with such basic errors a high school student would have been embarrassed. Did manage to get a couple of comments published in the journal highlighting their incompetent data handling.

    Will take a look through any papers they publish.
  7. Belladonna Member

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  8. Davey's Cat Member

    Re: New York Rescue Workers Detoxification Project

    No science on their website... they do say that they presented research at the 24th Symposium on Environmental Pollutants (DIOXIN 2004). Haven't found any mention of their presence yet apart from this summary of the conference banquet:


    Will keep looking.
  9. EyeOnSci Member

    Re: New York Rescue Workers Detoxification Project

    Glad to see you are still here. Thnx for your efforts.

    Thnx to Belladonna for starting this research thread.
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  10. Belladonna Member

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    ^ The truth of the matter is that this research has been done more thoroughly, and with greater knowledge, by Xenu-Directory, Wiki editors, and others that have been around much longer than me. But it bears repeating, and maybe I'll uncover some new stuff.
  11. Anonymous Member

    Re: New York Rescue Workers Detoxification Project

    Might be referring to James Dahlgren paper presented at Dioxin 2004. Dahlgren no doubt used his Dioxin paper to write his other paper erroneously claiming that the Purif works! I made a diff with the Dioxin 2004 here:

    Dioxin 2004 vs. NYRWDP study
  12. JohnnyRUClear Member

    Re: New York Rescue Workers Detoxification Project

    Sheesh... between the original 9/11 catastrophe, the appalling Whitman declaration that the air was safe to breathe, the reluctance of the gummint to admit that it had steered everyone wrong about that, and Cruise's gang of niacin-pushing liverbakers, these first responders never had a chance!!!
  13. Davey's Cat Member

    Re: New York Rescue Workers Detoxification Project

    You're right that's the one being referred to and it is the one that's already taken a hammering in print. It will be interesting to do a bit more digging on this though.
  14. Anonymous Member

    Re: New York Rescue Workers Detoxification Project

    Nope, the Dioxin 2004 didn't take a hammering, it was all fine (no error, no ridiculous claim re. Scientology Purification Rundown). It's the one claiming "reduction following detoxification" which took a hammering. Here is the timeline:

    "Persistent Organic Pollutants in 9/11 World Trade Center Rescue Workers"

    "Persistent organic pollutants in 9/11 world trade center rescue workers: Reduction following detoxification"

    I don't know, it seems Dahlgren might have been approached after in Dioxin paper, and he suddenly became a supporter of the Purif.

    Now his BWell Clinic (selling the purif) web site is gone and the corporation is dissolved, and gone too is his website in which he described himself as an expert witness. I suppose any opposite lawyer could bring his support of pseudoscience to undermine his witness expertise.
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  16. Davey's Cat Member

    Re: New York Rescue Workers Detoxification Project

    Actually that's right - the 2004 paper was uncontroversial, but then along comes Ms Cecchini in 2006/7 and then the Hubbardy bits sneak in. Does make you wonder what Chemosphere were thinking about in letting it into print.
  17. Blackfark Member

    Re: New York Rescue Workers Detoxification Project

    Actor Jason Dohring, a second generation Scilon, opened his own version of this place in the Los Angeles area last year.
  18. _You_ Member

    Re: New York Rescue Workers Detoxification Project

    Hahaha, charlatans indeed
  19. _You_ Member

    Re: New York Rescue Workers Detoxification Project

    It's been all downhill since then. Scientology doesn't work and it abuses people. And Tom Cruise is an idiot.
  20. Anonymous Member

    Re: New York Rescue Workers Detoxification Project

    Congress fails to pass 911 rescue worker's aid bill=golden opportunity for the Cult to step up with some cash...oh, wait. Video Player
  21. DeathHamster Member

    Jim Woodworth before he moved to New York City.
    What a gawdawful article! It repeats all the success claims without critically examining them, lets one Scientology front vouch for another one, and doesn't run any of the Hubbard purif baloney past any real doctors. It doesn't even mention Hubbard or Scientology.
  22. Anonymous Member

    Old article is old. They may tell a different story now.
  23. Dahlgren is still working as an expert witness in toxic exposure cases.
  24. DeathHamster Member

    Really? I'm surprised that the other side doesn't blow him out of court since he has no certification in toxicology.

    Hmm. A patient of his suffered liver failure after a detox treatment...
    Well no wonder! He forgot the Niacin.
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  25. DeathHamster Member

    Aaaah yessss...
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  26. RightOn Member

    I haven't seen this video in years. It is a riot.
    Let's not forget the "purple towel" scene, when Cruise in outside the sauna and holds up a towel "loaded with toxins". :confused:
    And I had a real laugh all over again. At 1:11, when Tom talks about the EPA saying the air was clean (around Ground Zero) and he says
    " As a Scientologist you know it's a lie"
    BWAH BWAH HA! That is sheer comedy gold.

    It's def. worth a re-watch, and I hope this vid stays safe. Hope there are other copies out there.
    Because Tom and the jury will need to see this when hopefully one of these firefighters finally comes forward to sue his ass for making him go through this quackery and sues him for fraud. I can dream can't I?

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  27. Ogsonofgroo Member

    Rem RO, starched towels? 'Nother GAH! funny as hell except they are fuck with people's health, not so funny thar I afraid :(
  28. Crossposted to

    Purple towel Tech needs a mention. It deserves more notice, as I suspect scammers of all sorts probably use it.
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  29. RightOn Member

    good idea Dong
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  30. Ogsonofgroo Member

    there is and old discussion about it somewhere in the archives, about a year after 2008, cannot find, anyone rem it? It/we talked about how the sauna scam works, and how you can get different coloured reactions blah-blah, hm, off ta googlething...
  31. Ogsonofgroo Member

    always bears repeating~

    Cannot help myself but to keep pointing out the stupid of Hubbard, because, um, way crazy and hurtful? A blithering pile of steamy animal droppings? Or just plain silly.
    You decide.

  32. DeathHamster Member

    The ooze towels are straight out of Clear Body, Clear Mind and Dr Root (as much to blame for the Purif as Hubbard). It's a frequently repeated meme. Some exes are absolutely convinced that the purple gunk did come out of their body in spite of really doubtful experts. Possibly, maybe, it's an unusual product of all the crap they make people take.

    Just a thought: the claimed chemical analysis was high on potassium and magnesium, and there's this trick with Potassium permanganate that dyes stuff purple when you add moisture...
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  33. Ogsonofgroo Member

    The easiest one for 'OMG look at the towels!' one is a little extra iron, pill, water, what-ever, it turns the starched towel red/purple, wheeeeeee kiddies! Gettin' purified now!

  34. DeathHamster Member

    A problem with the towel trick idea is that so far no one who was Narconon staff has come forward with an account of rigging the towels or pills in any special way--not that detailed quizzing them about towels has been on the top of anyone's list. (This never happens: "Never mind the drugs and rape, tell me about the towels!")

    More information is needed on exactly when in the process do people supposedly start pooping colors from their pores.
  35. RightOn Member

    I remember Amy Scobee talking about gray stuff coming out of her pores
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  36. tinfoilhatter Member

    It might be a reaction to too much of a particular vitamin, and have NOTHING to do with chemicals already inside your body.

    • Darkening of urine
    • light gray-colored stools
    just a few of the symptoms. keep in mind that they are MIXING high dosages of other vitamins too, so these would play havoc on the body as well.

    My hypothesis is that IF body fluids(sweat) are changing color, its most likely a VERY BAD THING.

    I need to see what the navy teaches Corpsmen about vitamins and supplements. I know they are better versed on the dangerous side effects then most doctors, this is due to all the supplements marines and sailors stupidly buy all the time. There was an incident where i was drinking one of those "health potion" energy drinks, and DOC came over, looked at the ingredients, pointed out the 15000% B3 dosage, slapped me VERY HARD, took it out of my hands, and threw it away. I remember those making my piss whitish. So he was doing me a favor.

    But this was the REAL navy, not the retarded scilon one.
  37. tinfoilhatter Member

    "Dose-related increases in aspartate aminotransferase and alkaline phosphatase have been associated with dosage increases greater than 2.5 grams over 1 month. Computerized tomography has revealed changes consistent with focal fatty liver in some cases. Although these changes usually resolve with dose reduction, continued routine monitoring of liver function tests is recommended. Rare cases of fulminant, even fatal, hepatic failure have been reported.

    In one retrospective analysis of 969 predominantly elderly male veterans treated for dyslipoproteinemia with controlled release niacin (average dose 3.1 grams/day), the incidences of possible and probable hepatotoxicity (biochemical criteria) were 2.2% and 4.7%, respectively. Predisposing risk factors included high dose, alcohol use, preexisting liver disease, and concurrent oral sulfonylurea use. The incidence of hepatotoxicity was significantly less among patients who were taking an average daily dose of 2.1 grams."

    If any of those first responders who were duped into the purif suffer from liver problems, then we need to push this.

    The above gibberish explains the liver failure associated from niacin overdoses.
  38. I've heard the claims before, in circumstances that AFAIK, did not involve sci or narconon, it's part of my curiosity about the phenomenon. I suspect that whatever the cause of it, there are other hucksters besides sci using it to con people into belief that they have been detoxed or are detoxing.

    Do you know if Hubbard and Root stole the purif from somewhere else?
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  39. RightOn Member

    wansn't there a company who sold some kind of pads that stick your feet?
    Then they would show these stained looking pads saying that it was toxins from your body?
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  40. DeathHamster Member

    There's the ionic detox foot bath that's a woo scam. The water changes color, feet in or out.

    Here a company claiming that their scam isn't a scam with familiar smell woo:
    Remember kids: If your detox water smells of rotting flesh, you may be a zombie!
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