Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by AnonCMD, Sep 14, 2011.
No it wasn't.
You must be fucking kidding. It was pointless.
Anarchist philosophy is so much more than the sex pistols or camping protests. read up
Cute vids tho
No. I prefer the Sex Pistols.
Didn't they spit though?
The protesters should demand that Obama joins Europe's effort to introduce a global tax on financial speculations.
No, they should revise the Fair Trade agreement.
No, the audience spit at them. It was a form of intimacy.
Untrue. Even the content of the fliers, signs, and chant content was shared/debated/re-written, coordinated between individual and/or organized Anons. Laying down incredible planning and then having the rest of the world see it emerge and think it was all spur-of-the-moment and unorganized was a testament to it having actually worked. This one could have used similar pre-planning.
In the week or two leading up to the Feb. 2008 protests, all of the participating sites had info pages, ways for people to get involved, directions to protest sites, ride shares, and national/international directories to find the web pages and IRC planning channels for their local protests. YTMND, SA, ED, 4chan, partyvan - all of them, had hugely involved members who coordinated with each regional cell. Most areas had a police liason, many areas filed for the appropriate permits, and new Anons made contact with those in some areas who had been protesting before. In my area we got together in small groups to pre-flyer re: the protest, dos and don'ts, main message, and what was illegal, so people wouldn't get arrested.
For instance, the NY Anons, Code Pink, and (I presume) Adbusters all had to know that being masked would get people arrested in NY, but I don't think they adequately prepared the protesters that it was. If someone knowingly gets arrested for civil disobedience that's one thing, but if someone got arrested because they weren't informed of the law by the organizers who brought them there (and knew that law, and knew protesters were breaking the law), that's bad on the "organizers".
I saw the video of the show they did at Winterland in Frisco, and the band got mad and yelled at them to stop spitting the the band.
Its not fucking called "Frisco"
Can't believe anybody actually remembers all of this, and this was BEFORE the pervasiveness of facebook and twitter. I'm at home showing my sister this thread and she loling it up here. She said to mention to you guys "FUCK THESE PEOPLE, don't even help them figure out 'what went wrong' with their failed op because WWP is not obligated to put time and effort into trying to help them."
I must agree with her, OPWallStreet was a AdBusters campaign, those guys can afford to PAY someone to do shit for them, but they tried to crowdsource / PA people into doing their dirt? FUCK THAT. WITP doesn't have enough juice in it to sustain ANYTHING. Not planning, not coordination, exposure, YOU NAME IT. AdBusters was stupid enough to believe that somehow a few twitter accounts and WITP, and a blog constituted "massive support" - I'm glad they both fell on their face.
Notice how many of these guys rely on hedge funds, investments etc.
Also Koch brothers at number 5 big funders of Tea Party.
SF or San Francisco. Wtf is a Frisco?
There's a fantastic video I saw, but I can't find again. I got the audio and the slides, though, and if anyone feels like listening and trying to go through the slideshow at the same time (it syncs up, I think), I'll provide links. Maybe I'll transcribe it if I can't find the full presentation, because it's really worth it to get this information out to anyone who would like to either organize or just help in the future.
At least listen through where he describes the difference between the uprisings in Egypt and Sudan. In Egypt, there were groups in it for the long haul, and they had made conctacts between each other a long time ago. They knew each other's online handles, dogma, and had established some level of trust - even groups that were traditionally in opposition to each other (i.e. Christians and Muslims). So when the social media/general call went out to gather in a place for a cause it worked because the groundwork had been laid for years. In Sudan, the government saw this stuff. They made an opposition website, put out the call for people to show up to a mass protest, and then just arrested everyone who showed up.
Having established connections, communication, and trust is key when wanting to put on a grassroots impromptu revolution. Srsly.
Video (part 1, 2 is in the sidebar): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PLsnEbY62nk
Edit to add: I want them to succeed. Even if they don't, maybe this will lay the groundwork for something later that works. But right now, I doubt it.
The first (practice) protest in Toronto was in January. It seemed more coherent the Wall St thing.
I just happened to be in the area to watch.
(Okay, so I was wrong about the masks.)
Actually Orlando was protesting in January too.
Whats up with that chant?
"THE BANKS GOT BAILED OUT!, WE WANT SODA!"
It doesn't even make sense.
At least it's getting some good media attention.
Ah. U r not the newbie u pretend 2 b
Get a wallet with a chain tuff guy
At least we have some leftist thinking that they represent everyone else. Elections (2010) on the other hand seem to have no meaning. Yaa socialism!
If it's good enough for Otis, it's good enough for the rest of us. One of the classic songs.
that the funniest thing since sliced bread. NOT!
All elections are meaningless.
The Wall Street Suitfag flash mob is such a good idea.
I left my home in Georgia
Headed for the 'Frisco bay
'Cause I've had nothing to live for
And look like nothin's gonna come my way
So I'm just gonna sit on the dock of the bay
Watching the tide roll away
Ooo, I'm sittin' on the dock of the bay
#WallStreet Protesters Arrested for Wearing #Masks
[Photo via @SabzBrach]
The Legal Fact Sheet from the NYC General Assembly warned protesters that wearing masks was illegal (an absurd law, no doubt), but protesters defied the warning. And what did it achieve?
The Wall Street Journal is reporting that five Occupy Wall Street protesters have been arrested—four for wearing masks, one for jumping a barricade. This exactly what the Occupy Wall Street organizers were advising against (in the The Legal Fact Sheet from the NYC General Assembly), yet the protesters insisted upon it. Sure, it is a rather absurd law (no more than two people can be wearing masks together at any given time), but getting arrested for it doesn’t serve to highlight corporate influence in financial and political affairs. It should be noted, however, that there were several people wearing masks throughout the initial protest this past Saturday, and the police did not descend upon them to make arrests.
By DJ Pangburn Monday, September 19, 2011
It be nice if they actually challenge this law as a first amendment violation and the requirement that you some how know what other people are going to do (you know the only 2 people in a group rule).
If they accomplish this, I'd say #occupywallstreet would have been a huge success
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