Oklahoma wrongful termination lawsuits over suppressed Narconon report

Discussion in 'Narconon' started by wolfbane, Aug 19, 2014.

  1. wolfbane Member

    Lawsuit alleges state suppressed Narconon report, fired investigators
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  2. Incredulicide Member

    If ever there was something wikileaks should get hold of, this report is it.
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  3. RightOn Member

    "her bosses then told her to hide"

    TODAY IS AUG. 19TH 2014
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  4. BigBeard Member


    I hope every lawyer involved in a lawsuit against Arrowhead and newspaper in the country files a subpoena or FOIA request for this suppressed report!

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  5. RightOn Member

    sorry for being a dumb ass, but can parents or family now sue the state?
    Or were they already doing that?
  6. RightOn Member

    raising a glass of wine right now to Kimberly Poff .
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  7. Random guy Member

    Oh, I remember there were some people fired in Oklahoma in connection with the Narconon case. Now this looks interesting!
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  8. RightOn Member

    "Her finalized report on the investigation was submitted by the fall of 2012."
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  9. Random guy Member

    Poff's lawyer:

    She says that Poff was motivated to file the lawsuit because she wanted to see justice done for the families of the patients who died at Narconon Arrowhead

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  10. peterstorm Member

    Shut them down already!
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  11. wolfbane Member

    Narconon Investigators Sue Department Of Mental Health And Substance Abuse

    No News9 video ATM, but they usually add one after the story airs on the evening broadcast.
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  12. Incredulicide Member

    Currently says
    In August 2013, Inspector General Kim Poff, and investigator Michael DeLong, of the Oklahoma Department of Mental Health and Substance Abuse, who had been investigating the deaths which had taken place at Narconon, had their employment terminated. No reason was given for the termination, but the investigators' attorney claimed (after the termination of their employment) that the two were wrongfully fired, saying: "Their termination, in part, relates to the Narconon Investigation".

    Would the story be a good source for updating that paragraph?
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  13. peterstorm Member

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  14. Tulsa World: Lawsuits allege state suppressed Narconon report, fired investigators

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  15. RolandRB Member

    This gets very interesting. I guess it might be easier for the families of the victims to sue the state of Oklahoma to get recompense rather than Narconon. It seems to me, based on the limited information I am looking at, that it was the state of Oklahoma that were informed about the shortcomings of the Narconon program there but decided, nonetheless, to allow that group to function. It looks to me that there was some sort of conspiracy to accomplish this. If the state of Oklahoma had been diligent in their duties then they would have closed the place. Instead, they seem to have been diligent in the opposite direction and decided to support the place to the end that three people lost their lives. Surely the state is the correct and best agency to sue. Maybe individual officiers within that agency could be personally liable if they can be shown to have rejected official recommendations.

    It kind of reminds my about the church of Scientology at 146 Queen Victoria Street in the City of London. I see they take in a few million British pounds a year through their operation. I would think that the only reason people feel safe in handing over those fixed donations is that they are sure they are giving to a legitimate charitable cause and that they feel bolstered in their certainty by the official endorsement given them by the City of London Corporation in opposing the Charities Commission decision that the Church of Scientology is not for the public benefit. I am sure most people would trust in the good offices of the City of London Corporation and take it as their endorsement that the Church of Scientology there legitimately receives 80% non-domestic (charitable) rates relief because it is a charity and a cause worth supporting.
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  16. [Adding some detail from the Petition.]

    Kimberly Poff v. Oklahoma Dept Mental Health: Petition w Exhibits
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  17. [Adding some detail from the Petition.]

    Michael DeLong v Oklahoma Mental Health: Petition

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  18. Disregard the title of the title of the Youtube video. This is the correct video.

    Narconon Investigators Sue Department Of Mental Health And Substance Abuse

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  19. jensting Member

    Well, the government of Oklahoma is expected to deal with the problem of narCONon harming people and if they turn a blind eye they become co-responsible for any harm that happens to the victims. Not complicated - a jury will get that right away.
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  20. BigBeard Member

    This story needs to go national, and subpoenas and FOIA requests for that buried report need to start flying!

    Oh, it also wouldn't hurt for law enforcement to get off it's butt and start investigating this cover up.

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  21. Random guy Member

    That might prompt the state to get off their hindquarters and actually do something, and not just diddle around.
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  22. RightOn Member

    Terrie or Terry White can't be a very happy camper right now. :D

    Will Poff be the one to finally pound the Poodle?
    Well, it is only one of many of COS's front groups that need to be brought down. But even a little Poodle pounding is deelish
    On to ABLE!
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  23. SP: Suppressive Person
    SR: Suppressive Report

    SP's may not expose SR's
  24. OK Policy Blog: Lawsuits allege state suppressed Narconon report, fired investigators
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  25. RightOn Member

    Hey Davey!
    Fool if you think it's over, it's just begun

  26. I lol'd. Felicitous, RO.:)
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  28. DeathHamster Member

    State Senator Speaks Out After Latest Narconon Lawsuit

    Posted: Aug 20, 2014 6:12 PM EST Updated: Aug 20, 2014 6:12 PM EST By Dana Hertneky
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  29. Anonymous Member


    A judge is expected to make a decision late next month on releasing the results of the report.

    In regards to the lawsuits Dismukes said they were unable to speak to any specifics regarding pending litigation, but did release this statement:

    These lawsuits are completely without merit, and the department plans to vigorously fight these frivolous claims. The plaintiff's attorneys are making claims that they know we can't respond to in the press due to confidentiality requirements and limits placed upon the department in accordance with state statute; however, the truth will come-out in court. We look forward to presenting all the facts before a judge and jury, and showing that the actions of the department were appropriate and just. It will be obvious that the two plaintiffs were terminated for cause.”
  30. DeathHamster Member

    ^^ sounds like the usual blanket Scientology disclaimer about disgruntled ex-employees.
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  31. RightOn Member

    It sounds like their lawyers are scilons.
    The mudslinging has begun
  32. RightOn Member

    "and the department plans to vigorously fight these frivolous claims"

    frivolous claims?
    Tell that to the suffering friends and family members who lost their loved ones.
    Fucking callous dirty filthy uncaring cowardly scumbags.
    They belong in jail. They are responsible for people suffering for TWO more years. And they continue to suffer as I type.

    "the actions of the department were appropriate and just."
    so they feel that a "business" violating numerous state laws was just?
    and then the department snuffed the investigative report and ignored the results of said investigation and also the advice to shut it down?
    That was appropriate and just?
    Oh hell no!

    They mention nothing about the deaths that occurred and the poor family and friends of those who have passed.
    Fucking callous dirty filthy uncaring cowardly scumbags.
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  33. The Internet Member

    I have no sympathy for the State of Oklahoma. Because of AMA’s situation. She has to decide whether to fight the stupid LMT injunction handed to her or not and she understands the shenanigans Scientology likes to play in court.

    But the State of Oklahoma is a whole fucking state government, not just one retired lady in Florida. How the fuck can a state government get away with, “Oh Imma scared of Scientology being mean in court!” If that is reasonable, then people like AMA are totally up shit creek with no hope.

    Not acceptable. The state has to stand and fight for what is clearly right. They are in the best position to take the heat and win.
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  34. Quentinanon Member

    I would not be surprised if OSA has an agent of influence/spy in the Oklahoma Department of Mental Health. I wonder what Mike Rinder knows about this.
    "It will be obvious that the two plaintiffs were terminated for cause.”

    They are just bitter apostates and are nattering. Those out-ethics investigators are just merchants of chaos who want to spread entheta.
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  35. DeathHamster Member

    "We'd love to tell you all about it but .. confidentiality, oh noes!"

    That sounds exactly like what Narcohead was using an excuse. Hey, it's might even be true, but it still sounds like Gary Smith talking.

    Here's the thing: If those two people were terminated for cause, how come the ODMHSAS didn't assign or hire two other people to complete the job? The claim is that no final report was accepted, and for many months ODMHSAS was claiming that their investigation was still proceeding long after they'd shitcanned it.

    We know what Narconons are like. If anyone was really investigating, they'd find the same problems that are chronic in all of them. (And obviously Kim Poff and Michael DeLong did find them.)

    I hope that the Multi-County Grand Jury is paying close attention to this.
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  36. RightOn Member

    And what about Joel Kearns? what that his name?

    edit. thanks for the correction. JOE Kearns
  37. Random guy Member

    I'm wondering about that too.
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