Oklahoma wrongful termination lawsuits over suppressed Narconon report

Discussion in 'Narconon' started by wolfbane, Aug 19, 2014.

  1. The Internet Member

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  2. The Internet Member

    Maybe so. But the smart move for Scientology would be to partner with other quacks into “natural detox” and the like, and get some of those guys hatted on infiltration and spying. People promoting similar unproven treatments should be against Narconon getting shut down, as that sets a precedent that puts their own businesses at risk. So Scientology could count on their loyalty. And by having no connections to the CoS, Scientology would not have to fear discovery.

    If a Scientology spy within the state agencies reviewing the Narconon program were outed, that would be a huge flap. I think it would give the Feds probable cause to show up at all the big Scientology centers with several large trucks and a warrant for every computer and file in the building. Because no wants Snow White II, the sequel.
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  3. Quentinanon Member

    The SW 2 needs exposure. A thorough counter-intelligence investigation would locate the spies. Bye bye 501(c)3.
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  4. The Internet Member

    Durand Crosby

    Chief Operating Officer
    Oklahoma Department of Mental Health and Abuse Services
    Oklahoma City, Okla.


    Undergraduate Degree:

    Bachelors from the University of Oklahoma
    Graduate Degree:

    Juris Doctorate from the University of Oklahoma
    Previous positions:

    • Interim Chief Operating Officer for Oklahoma Department of Mental Health
    • Senior Trial Attorney for Allstate Insurance Company/Encompass Insurance Company
    • Attorney for Sole Practitioner
    • Associate Attorney for Morrison & Foerster

    • Graduated top 15 % of Class
    • Order of the Barristers
    • American Jurisprudence Award – Torts III
    • American Jurisprudence Award – Trial Techniques
    • Appointed Special Prosecutor for Student Code Violations
    • Received Dean’s Scholarship
    • Received Law Foundation Scholarship
    • Dean’s Honor Roll every semester
    Leadership Positions:

    • President of the Asian/Pacific Legal Society
    Current Organizations:

    • Member of the Board of Advocates
    • Phi Delta Phi
    Crosby said, “I am excited about the opportunity to research new strategies, and to focus on solutions to the issues facing our state government agencies today.”
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  5. The Internet Member

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  6. The Internet Member

    If what is alleged in the wrongful termination suit is true, then all these people suck the dog’s balls:

    The question is, why do they suck so hard? Er, allegedly?

    I have to say, Terry White is smokin’ hot. So she has that going for her.

    Commissioner Little.jpg

    Oh look an award for stats going up, which probably means some form of management by stats in place making humans into dumb fuck number manipulators.

    Award for Innovation and Productivity Enhancement :Johna Madden-Triage Coordinator
    Kim Jackson: Secretary 1
    Carleen Noe and Debra Williams: Triage Specialist Assistants
    Bill Willis CMHC (Wagoner County Outpatient Clinic)
    (Pictured with Carrie Slatton-Hodges, Steven Buck, Durand Crosby, Caletta McPherson, and Terri White)
    The Award for Innovation, Quality Improvement, and Productivity Enhancement is given to an employee or group of employees whose suggestions/recommendations lead to improved employee productivity, increased safety, reduction in expenses, or improved processes. There were several nominees for this award category.
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  7. RolandRB Member

    I read as as "a huge fap" and mentally nodded in agreement.

    Of course, the cult will have that area safe-pointed. If it isn't a spy who has infiltrated the place, they will have some cozy relationships with a few people.
  8. The Internet Member

    Then let us find it, the safepoint, shall we? Because lulz.

    But first Imma take a walk down to the pond and give some Cheerios to Cutiepie, my new turtle friend. Won’t waste too much time though because Facebooks have a way of going private.

    Oh one thing: no Buettner in the completions database but I did find one working for Jeff Stone:

    And Cratus Dewayne Moore is a lady’s man, but I don’t know if he’s the one in his 70s or 40s. Imma guess 40s, because many ladies... allegedly.
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  9. RightOn Member

    "Gary Richardson, a former prosecutor who is handling numerous lawsuits against Narconon Arrowhead, was more optimistic.
    “I used to be a US Attorney and dealt with the grand jury. And I would say that’s good news. They didn’t shut it down. They’re seeking more investigation,” he says. We asked him if he thought the grand jury could still produce indictments after making a statement like they did in the report. “It very well could mean that,” he said."

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  10. The Wrong Guy Member

    In court today: Battle over government report on wrongdoing at Scientology rehab facility

    We’re looking forward to getting reports on how a hearing goes today in McAlester, Oklahoma. Attorney Gary Richardson (right) is trying to convince the state to turn over a report which could be devastating to Scientology’s drug rehab network, Narconon. The hearing starts at 2:30 pm Eastern time, and we’re hoping to get a report from the scene as soon as the hearing finishes.

    What’s at stake? Last month, we told you about two stunning lawsuits filed by a former state inspector general named Kimberly Poff and one of her former investigators, Michael DeLong. Working for the state’s Department of Mental Health and Substance Abuse Services, Poff and DeLong say they had uncovered wrongdoing in the wake of several deaths at Scientology’s flagship drug rehab facility, Narconon Arrowhead, and had recommended that it be shut down.

    Poff and DeLong allege that their superiors at the department buried the report because they were afraid to take on Scientology. When Poff and DeLong complained about it, they were fired.

    Poff and DeLong are now suing the state department over their terminations, and the report they wrote is now in the possession of the state’s attorney general, Scott Pruitt.

    Gary Richardson is a former federal prosecutor who is representing numerous people who are suing Narconon Arrowhead, including the families of Gabriel Graves, Hillary Holten, and Stacy Dawn Murphy, who died at the Narconon facility in a 9-month period in 2011 and 2012.

    Richardson has subpoenaed the Poff/DeLong report from the Department of Mental Health, and today a judge will hear from him and from Narconon, which wants to keep the report out of Richardson’s hands.
    As soon as we hear something, we’ll add it to this post.

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  11. Random guy Member

    Fingers crossed!
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  12. Random guy Member

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  13. Tulsa World: Judge orders state to turn over investigative report on Narconon

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  14. Random guy Member

    If this goes to trail, the report, or at least an edited version, will soon enough be in the public domain. The only way the cult can stop this from happening is either to appeal the ruling and get it overturned, or to throw in the towel and settle.
  15. fishypants Moderator

    I might be misunderstanding, but the relevant lawsuit is between the state government and its former employees, isn't it?

    So that would mean that Narconon settling the case isn't an option.

    update -
    so I guess I have got the two lawsuits mixed up.
  16. News 6 Oklahoma: Oklahoma Judge Rules Attorney Can See Narconon Investigation Report

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  17. Random guy Member

    I am extremely impressed by the way Murphy's father have made her death into a positive driving force. I can only imagine how easy it would have been to curl up and shy away from the world under those circumstances. My hat off.
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  18. Random guy Member

    It's not unthinkable the report will become evidence in the wrongful termination lawsuit also. As you said, in that suit Narconon will have no means of stopping it from becoming evidence, though the state may try to.
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  19. RightOn Member

    I agree. He is also saving others from the same demise.
    MURPHY = tenacity and balls of steel. My sword Sir!
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  20. DeathHamster Member

    I'd be shocked if Narconon hasn't made offers in return for making the case go away, hoping for just that.

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  22. BigBeard Member

    I'm really hoping the national press gets with the local OK press, and pushes for a court order to get a "names redacted" version of the report "in the public interest". The world needs to see the horrors of what really goes on in narCONons, and NN Arrow Head in particular.

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  23. fishypants Moderator

    Could we apply for it to be released under US freedom of information law?

    (I'm not familiar with the US FOI scheme myself...)
  24. BigBeard Member

    In OK it apparently takes a court order to get reports of this type released.

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    Kim Poff fired by Oklahoma agency after stories (including ours) described Scientology dispute

    Now it can be told: Just days after we reported, along with local Oklahoma media, that Kim Poff had filed suit against the state’s Department of Mental Health and Substance Abuses Services (ODMHSAS), she was fired by another Oklahoma state agency, the Department of Human Services.

    Her attorney, Rachel Bussett, tells us she believes those events are directly connected.

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  27. RightOn Member

    unfucking real
    OK is dumber than a fence post
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  28. Random guy Member

    Damn it, I hope all those involved over in Oklahoma fires of some sternly worded letters to authorities. This is a bleeding shame!
  29. RightOn Member

    someone posted contact info in the comments for these agencies.
    Although it would prolly be preaching to the choir.
    I would think you would have to go over their heads
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  30. Dana Hertneky has posted the same story to the News on 6 and News 9 websites. News on 6 covers Tulsa. News 8 covers Oklahoma City.

    Former Narconon Investigator Says She Was Fired For Going Public
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  31. Quentinanon Member

    OK is ranked number 35 in the U.S. with an average IQ of 99.3
    Hey, where scientology has the largest number of U.S. dupes are states with low average IQ:
    California number 48 with 95.5 and Florida number 39 with 98.4

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  32. The Wrong Guy Member

    Oklahoma hits back at Kim Poff and Michael DeLong

    We’ve been following the explosive allegations made by two former Oklahoma state employees who say they were fired because they found wrongdoing at Scientology’s flagship drug rehab facility, Narconon Arrowhead, and recommended that it be shut down, but their superiors buried the report because they were afraid of taking on the church.

    Now, the state has filed motions to dismiss in both lawsuits. The motions call Poff and DeLong’s allegations “baseless,” and assert that even if they had found wrongdoing at Narconon Arrowhead, the department would still have discretion what to do about it and might not decide to revoke Narconon Arrowhead’s license.

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  33. Quentinanon Member

    "We’ve been following the explosive allegations made by two former Oklahoma state employees who say they were fired because they found wrongdoing at Scientology’s flagship drug rehab facility, Narconon Arrowhead, and recommended that it be shut down, but their superiors buried the report because they were afraid of taking on the church.

    Now, the state has filed motions to dismiss in both lawsuits. The motions call Poff and DeLong’s allegations “baseless,” and assert that even if they had found wrongdoing at Narconon Arrowhead, the department would still have discretion what to do about it and might not decide to revoke Narconon Arrowhead’s license."

    This sounds too much like the result of scientology high-level infiltration and influence.
    I would put the plaintiffs' former bosses on my list of counter-intelligence suspects.
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  34. Intelligence Member

    Just my observation and opinion on this.

    When 3 of us met in the offices of the ODMHSAS when I gave them a 225 page document
    that detailed the inner workings of Narconon, the links to WHO directed and administered
    the scam program, it was like the Board Members were on heavy doses of Valium or hypnotized.

    They sat back in their chairs and said very little. The meeting was not long because there appeared
    to be no interrst from the Board in what we were saying.

    This 225 page document was the same one that was submitted to the Committee in
    Quebec that helped shutter NN TR for good. And when an Anon and Me met with the Health Board
    agency in Trois-Riveriers ... with CBC TV cameras rolling, the Board Member we spoke to was very
    interested in the evidence, and listened with keen interest.

    In my opinion, someone high up in the ODMHSAS has dirt on them and wants the skeleton to remain
    hidden ... OR somenone's palm is being greased well.

    Also, when I was in a 2 hour meeting with the Quebec Human Rights commission lawyers in Montreal,
    they appeared to have the same attitude as the ODMHSAS .... they were dead afraid of the 3 cases going
    to a court. In the meeting, the 2 lawyers spent quite some time pleading reasons WHY the cases should
    not go to court and that I should sign a non-disclosure - GAG Order. I could feel, smell, and taste that
    something was amiss and that the lawyers were not abiding by their Mandate in the cases.

    Enough of a natter for now.:rolleyes:
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  35. Quentinanon Member

    "OR somenone's palm is being greased well."
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  36. patriot75 Member

    Guess who joined twitter...this will be fun.
    Terri White


    Official Twitter account of Terri White, Commissioner - Oklahoma Department of Mental Health and Substance Abuse Services.
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  37. patriot75 Member

    After we met with the 3 "officials" several months later 2 of the 3 were fired except Director, Public Information, Jeffery Dismukes.
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