Operation Anti-Sec is on - what can we do?

Discussion in 'Think Tank' started by Circus Fag, Jun 20, 2011.

  1. Circus Fag Member

    So, Operation Anti-Sec has just been launched in a collaborative effort between Lulzsec and Anonymous. This basically means a declaration of all out war "on the freedom-snatching moderators of 2011". So, pretty much every governmental organisation on the planet, really.

    The thing is, this Op is obviously going to be one based around hacking; internet security breaching and whatnot, presumably, as per the usual Anonymous/Lulzsec strategy. However, what can non-hackers like me or many of you do to help? I wander if there is any chance of organising IRL activism in support of Op Anti-Sec? Any ideas on what we could do?
  2. Well, i would definitely advise against hacking anything like government websites if you don't know what you're doing unless you fancy a free bed and room mate for a while.

    IDK, most people dislike the government anyway (at least in the UK right now) so that's pretty much got what protests normally achieve covered. Although getting more and more media coverage could be a good thing.
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  3. Anonymous Member

    for one thing, Freedom of Information

    in the UK:
  4. Anonymous Member

    Oh. Sorry, I was looking for the Triple Sec. </me wanders away with the tequila bottle>
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  5. JohnnyRUClear Member

    WWP does not condone illegal activities.
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  6. cfanon Member

    Circus, are you retarded or just very very dim...

    You're a hypocrit. Bullshit about us moving away from the Anonymous image as it's immature and gives a bad impression in the fight against Co$, then this? Posting about illegal movements by the "group" (lack of a better term in the context) you once rejected on a board that completely bans anything illegal.

    Pick an opinion, stick with it, grow a backbone, stop using other peoples etc.
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  7. cfanon Member

    Not to mention you've publicly posted personal details before that could be easily track to yourself, stating you don't care. Yet you're posting about how you can help an illegal movement (even if you're not doing anything illegal yourself).
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  8. Anonymous Member

    so what?

    i'm not familiar with his/her former posts but I see nothing legally objectionable in this one.

    unless there's a subtext that i'm not getting, OP is asking for advice on methods of legal, non-violent 'real life' activism.

    which is her/her civil right throughout the developed world.

    even Lord Jopling couldn't object.

    - WT.
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  9. anonymous612 Member

    In support of a group OP has bitched about because of omg they're so immature they're gonna give us bad pr.
  10. Anonymous Member


    spread it like a plague. See:
    except naturally, only in places you are legally permitted to do so.
    Also, this.

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  11. Nyucy Member

    not sure if want
  12. Anonymous Member

    Neither do governments.
  13. Circus Fag Member

    *face palm*

    Idiot. There is nothing illegal about what I'm proposing - hacktivism is other people's business and has nothing to do with me or others here, what I'm suggesting is IRL activities, for example protesting against organisations that are found to be corrupt via the activities of Op Anti-Sec, and there is NOTHING illegal about that.There are illegal elements of hacking and whatnot that was involved in the early days of the Co$ movement (WWP does not condone illegal activities), does that make the IRL activism any less valid? OF COURSE IT FUCKING DOESN'T.

    The reason I suggested that the anti Co$ movement may possibly want to form it's own organisation was because it had changed dramatically from it's origins, and besides after that debate I retracted my views and admitted I was wrong. This on the other hand is CLEARLY Anonymous related, even if we ignore the whole thing about me admitting that my original ideas of splitting away from Anonymous were flawed.
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  14. Anonymous Member

    NLPA (not lulzsec's personal army). Fuck em.

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  15. cfanon Member

    You're aligning yourself with an illegal movement. There is nothing legal in the plan for #AntiSec, never was in with the first group (AntiSec was a hacking group movement before it had anything to do with LulzSec), isn't in this one either. Attempting to do a RL 'legal' protest to support illegal activities is idiotic to say the least. A very good way to get arrested and investigated for the possibility that you've been involved in illegal activities yourself or have any links to people doing illegal activities.

    Chanology is separate from anon, even if it's origins are closely aligned.
    But true, you did admit you were wrong.

    My issue here is...
    • I think that if you're going to get involved (even if it's legal stuff only) you need to protect your identity much better considering the movement itself 100% promotes attacking / stealing from government agencies. (for example, post god damn anonymously when posting stuff like this, or use a sock)
    • You seem to do nothing more than jump from protest to protest for what seems to be purely "high horse" reasons. You seem more like a sheep than someone with their own opinions. Feel free to prove me wrong.
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  16. We don't wanna get in any trouble if one of us is caught with illegal software we would get sentenced to twenty years in prison..and i don't wanna drop the soap!
  17. JohnnyRUClear Member

    I don't condone illegal activities.
  18. Dragononymous Member

    sorry I pretended to be a fox news reporter..
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  19. underminer Member

    Tricky one this. Depends what you mean by "illegal". All sorts of activities have variable legality depending on where they are. If, say, LoL has become illegal in Saudi Arabia then by allowing "LoL" on this site and this site being (possibly) accessible from Saudi Arabia means this site condones illegal activities.

    Not wanting to impose anything on anyone, but it would make sense to apply the phrase: "At your own risk" to everything, unless the activity being suggested is clearly morally unsound, e.g. it breaches basic human rights.

    To extent the analogy, if you said you were, say, a Labour voter in the UK then that would imply you tacitly supported an illegal war. Support for the principles of LulzSec or AntiSec does not imply a blanket support of all of their tactics.
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  20. Yeah.. laugh all you want you asshole but you have no idea how detremental shit like this is for those of us doing things IRL that actually make a diference. I don't support any of this cuz of my current situaation in LV and even if I had a thousand anons here with me I wouldn't. Time to grow up kids.
    Ugh I need a hug now :(
  21. *hugs* I have some news however a member of lulzsec has been arrested ryan clearly does that name ring a bell anons?
  22. cfanon Member

    Lol, he's clearly not LulzSec, but he's linked to anon. No doubt he's fucked though.... He may not be LulzSec, but he'll have done too much other shit like the attacks on mastercard and such.
  23. He apparently ran the lulzsec server for their irc. so..yeah
  24. cfanon Member

    I wasn't aware that running one IRC server, that LulzSec uses, makes him a member. More likely he was just a fanboy groupy who let them have a private channel on his server.
  25. Lulzsec have been gloating about it on their twitter feed.
  26. Anonymous Member

    He was involved in the infamous Anon Civil War of [however many weeks ago] and helped bring down the last incarnation of anonops. Most of these guys are drawn from the same pimply gene pool.
  27. cfanon Member

    They've been gloating that he hosts the server, not that he's a member. There's a difference.
    From my understanding, he fucked over most of the alleged members of LulzSec by fucking over anonops.
  28. SwordofTruth Member

    Correcto, he got outed by AnonOps months ago after he fucked them over and people who took part in Ops along with linking him to DDOS attacks, slow police are slow.
  29. Yeah..still he did try to ddos 4chan and other chans. However we have to be careful with scotland yard these guys can easily track us down. But like i said We must support anti sec by any legal means. Like protests if we can get our message out on the streets maybe people will finally wake up and know what the government is really doing. And none of that left wing bullshit.
  30. Anonymous Member

    Police not slow, you see police need to collect actual evidence that can be used in court.
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  31. Anonymous Member

    It's a shame they didn't consult with you first. You seem to be such a valuable law enforcement training resource and clearly understand the way it operated in this situation.
  32. cfanon Member

    Very true. Why quickly arrest someone without evidence*, when you can lurk moar, gather evidence and possibly more suspects. This has been happening since 1990s, it was quite bad back then as well. I think the general idea from government agencies is to have sleepers (even security research firms have sleepers to look out for new blackhat trends) / moles. Makes the most sense, it'd be the best way to great real info on what's generally quite a secretive community. Better to wait quietly in the background....

    * this being said, I'm sure they'll find lots of evidence of illegal stuff on his computer / server.
  33. PresidentShaw Member

    The antisec movement is very anti freedom of information.

    Just thought I'd leave that out here. Sounds like someone is trying to personal army anonymous into it's own cause. This is a really strange turn of event considering lulzsec's past actions.

    Which is fine, even though I think it's wrong.

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  34. SwordofTruth Member

    Ahhh I didn't know that, one would assume going off majority of arrests these days they like to do it on a whim to tie people up and then all charges dropped at the end.
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  35. dont want your hugs.
    eat shit and die.
  36. none given Member

    Good point. this site participated in Draw Muhammed day; illegal in a dozen countries.
    Most serious activists in American history respoted to tresspassing, littering and a host of other "crimes" to get their point across.

    Whats the quote "Well behaved women rarely make history"?
    Same for well behaved anything.
  37. cfanon Member

    That's original movement, not the new one by LulzSec which focuses on attacking the Whitehat community and government agencies.

    They see whitehats as profiteering off corrupt methods (and just generally don't like whitehat).
    The attacking government is to do with the rules being put down on the internet. Yeah, I know, shit way to respond to someone trying to regulate the internet.
    The attacking of "fat cats" is more that they don't like big organisations, probably for many reasons.

    LulzSec gets all it's exploits and 0days from "the publication of information relating to but not limited to: software vulnerabilities, exploits, exploitation techniques, hacking tools" etc.
  38. fair enough but you did ask remember?
  39. cfanon Member

    I wonder if that courts would accept that argument...

  40. Highly doubtful!

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