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[Operation Over the Wall: Postcards from Paradise] to SP Hall!

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  1. [Operation Over the Wall: Postcards from Paradise] to SP Hall!

    Many, many years ago when dinosaurs roamed the earth and I attended university, a club I was in participated in a letter writing campaign for Amnesty International. The idea was simple: write to political prisoners. The letters would be extremely unlikely to ever make it to the prisoners, but they would remind the regimes holding them captive that the world knew, both that these people were captive and what kind of conditions they were in.

    I am wondering whether it might be a good idea to write to the people trapped in SP Hall. Postcards, no forensic evidence or possibility of anthrax scares. Very upbeat, positive postcards letting them know that people outside know they are there and we care about them.

    So. Why not? And what should the form of such messages take, if we do this?
  2. MarcabEmpress Member

    Re: Postcards to the edge?

    Postcards work for a lot of reasons. Mainly because SOMEONE has to read them, the guy in the mail room for instance...Use pretty pictures on one side and write just a simple note like:

    Hey just wanted you to know <sports team won, it finally rained, the roses look great in the front yard, we went to Disneyland/Bahamas/New York> and we are thinking of you. Mike Rinder blew and Mary de Moss is MIA. Hope to see you soon!

    Hope you are well. Your friends and family miss you and want to see you! Everyone thinks of you often.

    Mike Rinder left. You have friends thinking of you.


    Tory magoo and others who have been in may have better suggestions than I.
  3. dwest Member

    Re: Postcards to the edge?

    Great idea. Pick up some tourist cards next time you are out of town if you don't want to be located, or pick up one of those local postcard books with tons of photos of places-you've-never-seen-because-they've-been-bulldozed-several-years-ago.

    Here's a rhyming message:

    Mike Rinder Blew. How are you?

    Another longer message: Hope this finds you well. Do you know why the OT's (Mike Rinder, Jason Beghe and Mary de Moss) are blowing or MIA? Ah well, stranger things have happened such as <local non-sci news story here>. Take care.
  4. MarcabEmpress Member

    Re: Postcards to the edge?

    Jason Beghe, not Kevin. Otherwise yup!
  5. dwest Member

    Re: Postcards to the edge?

    doh! Guess I was counting the steps between him and Kevin Bacon.
  6. SamuelAdams Member

    Re: Postcards to the edge?

    Interesting. How much are post cards? Can we get blank ones to print our own picture on? What address would we send it to?
  7. Re: Postcards to the edge?

    Does anyone have a list of people on the inside?
  8. Re: Postcards to the edge?

    Have you seen this thread? List is on first page.
  9. Re: Postcards to the edge?

    I guess if an address list can be compiled for these people, then I don't see why I couldn't just occasionally send a postcard to a random person on it.
  10. MarcabEmpress Member

    Re: Postcards to the edge?

    Perhaps just sending cards to those folks at the Gilman Hotsprings/Gold Base address? Any ex-scis know that address/zip code?
  11. Anonymous Member

    Re: Postcards to the edge?

    Yeah this is a great idea.

    And if you use the Search function located just up there under the banner, just off center of your screen, and enter in the words "postcards to scientologists" or "Operation Over the Wall" - you'll find this:

    http://forums.whyweprotest.net/12-activism-projects-planning/operation-over-wall-7197/

    Lots of ideas already posted here, as well as suggestions on how to do this. Hope this helps.
  12. anon1957 Member

    [Operation Over the Wall: Postcards from Paradise] to SP Hall!

    I just came across this thread at OCMB in which someone is trying to find a family member who has dissapeared iinto David Miscavige's personal prison camp:

    Later on in the thread, someone writes:

    Marc Headley also talks about this in his Glosslip Radio interview.

    IN the days of Elron, SPs were simply thrown out of the Cult and subjected to Fair Game if they spoke out. But David Miscagive has become so afraid of his own high level executives that he locks them up when they begin to show signs of "blowing." Or perhaps because he is terrified of "mutiny." [My understanding of Co$ corporate structure is that DM has no legal authority over anything other than RTC] People like Heber Jentz (sp) who do have the legal authority to wrest control of the church away are thus locked up "foreever."

    I think that Anonymous should make a BIG deal about this at the May 10th rallies--as it is a form of internal Fair Game within the church. Tory/Magoo wonders why no one who is not in the SP Hall does anything to get these people out. My guess is that most are terrified that they too will end up in it.

    More importantly, it seems that everyone at the Int Base in Hemet has fallen into a kind of Stockholm Syndrome in which they completely identify with the values of their captors, and actually believe that they deserve the treatment they are being subjected to.

    Mike Rinder seems to have escaped this by the seat of his pants (while leaving his wife Cathy there, the bastard).

    There is a great youtube vid of Tory talking to an OSA guard about this at the 4-10 protest in LA. If you watch the video carefully, it is clear that her information that the Cult's highest execs are looked away in a prison camp and trotted out only once in awhile at big public events "got" to him (he knew it was true that no one has laid eyes on them at ANY other time) and he was extremely uncomfortable. Remember that everything Tory said was recorded on the Cult's security cameras and will be watched by any number of OSA execs. I am sure Tory knew this and was trying to "wake them up" with this info.

    I think more of this "waking up" effort needs to happen with signs and flyers directed at the OSA operatives sent out to watch the protests. If Anon can plant a seed of fear in these people that perhaps they too could end up in an "SP Gulag" then more may be encouraged to quietly blow.

    Here is more info on this from Blownforgood.
  13. anon1957 Member

    Re: Stockholm Syndrome in the SP Hall at Hemet California's Gold Base

    So here is an action I propose that Anon can take.

    Send cards to everyone on BFG's list. It is true that none of them will likely ever see the cards, but the staff (and more importantly, DM) will become aware that the world is watching and is keep careful track of who is being held.

    Sort of like an Amnesty International post card writing campaign (which has been in some instances EXTREMELY effective). Use post cards so that the mail men can read them and gossip and so that they cannot be ordered to be thrown away unopened by lower level staff. And there is no need for a return address on a post card.

    If thousands of these post cards began to show up at the Int Base, I believe some key people can be shaken loose.

    Sort of like this (please feel free to refine the idea)

    Address to send post cards

    (Name of Missing Person)
    19625 Gilman Springs Rd
    Gilman Hot Springs, CA 92583-2100

    Edit: OT8Michael says that the name of Missing Person should be prefaced with the title

    " Int Base SP"

    and that it should be sent to

    SP Hall
    19625 Gilman Springs Rd
    Gilman Hot Springs, CA 92583-2100

    Either way I am sure it will get there, but with the 2nd version, we make it clear that we know that they are declaring high execs SPs and holding them in a special SP prison.
  14. Daywatch Member

    Re: Stockholm Syndrome in the SP Hall at Hemet California's Gold Base

    ^^^^^^^^^^
    THIS
    be careful of finger prints though!
  15. AnonSoul Member

    Re: Stockholm Syndrome in the SP Hall at Hemet California's Gold Base


    This sounds like a good idea, Arnie Lerma mentioned something when speaking in DC about using post cards since they can be possibly read by anyone who handles them and this sort of info has to be sent "up the lines". If nothing else, it can plant the seed in the ranks as to what their own possible future might hold if something isn't done about it.
  16. anon1957 Member

    Re: Stockholm Syndrome in the SP Hall at Hemet California's Gold Base

    Umlike a sealed letter, post cards are inoculated from fingerprint ID because so MANY people handle them before they get to their destination.

    For this and other reason, DON'T send a sealed letter.

    Also: have some fun with the post card design. I am going to buy some blank ones from Staples and send custom post cards.

    Anon could have some fun with designs.
  17. anon1957 Member

    Re: Stockholm Syndrome in the SP Hall at Hemet California's Gold Base

    One more thot:

    It is a Federal CRIME to withhold mail from a US citizen. If thousands of these post cards are sent to people on the list, and the local PO knows it, DM will be setting himself up for just one more charge down the road when he finally gets nabbed.
  18. ANON E MOOSE Member

    Re: Stockholm Syndrome in the SP Hall at Hemet California's Gold Base

    using a fake ip/ public pc and a way to shield payment details and you could send shitloads of worry free cards with this.Not only that, if they try and suggest anthrax was on any of them, they can be reminded that the cards did not touch the original sender from start to finish.


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  19. AnonSoul Member

    Re: Stockholm Syndrome in the SP Hall at Hemet California's Gold Base

    How many people were on the SP Hall list? At first class rates it looks like you can do 50 B/W postcards for about 15 USD plus change direct from the USPS site.

    I wonder if we could get a list (by city) of staff members as well? Wouldn't it be nice of us to send them birthday wishes (like the insurance companies do), etc?

    Just think of the amount (volume) of postcards being sent if we did an SP Hall campaign from us (each cell) to them per day. The post office might not like it to much (having to haul an additional 50 postcards per day) but I think the mail room personnel at Hemmet might get the idea.

    I'm liking this idea more and more.
  20. anon1957 Member

    Re: Stockholm Syndrome in the SP Hall at Hemet California's Gold Base

    PO won't give a rats ass about the volume since a post card campaign is miniscule compared to the junk mail and catalogs they have to sort everyday.

    While I think that the USPS site is a good viable alternative, I am thinking that it would also be nice to send some more personalized ones. Go buy some of some really nice "scenes" --places that they might like to visit, images which represent the real world. Or draw a picture, scan it and print it on blank cards. I think the more bright and colorful they are, the harder it will be for the mail staff to avoid reading them. Etc.

    Also--it will drive them crazy of they are stamped from all over the place. It will be harder for them to track them if they are anonymously dropped into a blue mailbox than from the USPS website--which could be tracked if the Cult bawwed terrorist/harassment or whatever they could think of.

    Use beauty to defeat fear and despair. Image chocolate for the eyes and the heart.
  21. CherrieZ Member

    Re: Stockholm Syndrome in the SP Hall at Hemet California's Gold Base

    excellent point.

    sign me up for the task force :guyfawkes: Operation: SP Rescue!!!!
  22. Re: Postcards to the edge?

    So:
    Int Base SP
    *name here*
    SP Hall
    19625 Highway 79,
    Gilman Hot Springs, CA
    92583

    SP Hall Inmate List

    1. Arbuckle, Mary – ex Typesetter I/T R Comps
    2. Bellin, Russ – ex CO CST
    3. Biggs (Knapmeyer), Alison – ex R Comps Programs Ops
    4. Blankenship, Angie – ex COB Project Ops, Local Programs Ops
    5. Bloomberg, Dave – ex MEI, ED ASI
    6. Bolstad, Pam – ex CO's Comm CST
    7. Buglewicz, Pat Lawrence – ex Incomm Rep Int
    8. Cruzen, Richard Gilman – All–around man (has been Audio Prod Sec, Manufacturing Sec, R Comps Sec, CMU Sec, AVEI, RAV, etc.) most successful as Audio Mixer
    9. Greilich, Russ Lyle – ex LRH Lecture Mix I/C, Audio Prod Sec
    10. Hughes, Gregory Kenneth Snr. – ex Int Finance Dir, GIEI, WDC WISE
    11. Ingber, Liz – ex Admin Compiler, CO CMO Gold
    12. Ingber, Mark Allen – ex Admin Comps I/C R Comps, CO CMOI, WDC Pubs
    13. Jaramillo (Yager), Michelle Lynette – ex Book Editor RComps, Proofreading I/C, Port Captain CMOI, Snr Messenger
    14. Jentzsch, Heber – ex President CoS
    15. Koon, Susan Jane – ex Compilations Dir RComps (RTRC Dir)
    16. Lemmer, Kathy – ex CO Incomm, CO Gold
    17. Lemoine, Robert – ex Dir Maintenance & Policing Incomm Int
    18. Lesevre, Guillaume – ex ED Int
    19. Light, Janet – ex President IASA
    20. Linson (DeVocht), Jenny – ex CO CMOI, CO CMO CW
    21. Mason, Aron – ex IMPR Scriptwriter, IMPR, Dir PR OSA I, Freedom Mag Editor OSA I
    22. Mithoff, Raymond H. – ex IG Tech, Snr C/S Int, Tech Compiler RComps
    23. Moresi, Bruno – ex Int Project 4th CST
    24. Reynolds, Wendell A. – ex Berthing Construction I/C, Int Finance Dir, CO Gold
    25. Rinder, Catherine Albertina – ex R Comps Tape Editor, Compiler, D/CO Prod CMOI
    26. Schless, Peter Harrison – ex Music Dir Gold, Freedom Medal Winner
    27. Schwartzgruber, Rita – ex ED Int, CO CMO IXU?
    28. Spurlock, Lyman Doyle jr. – ex Int Finance Dir, Building 36 Sanitation Engineer, RTC Legal man without a post title
    29. Starkey, Norman F – ex MCI Cleaner, AVC Aide, Trustee ASI
    30. Swartz, Fredric Samuel – ex Shrinkwrap Operator Dissem, GIEI
    31. Tisi (Feshback, Charbonneau), Katherine – ex Qual Sec Gold
    32. Trussell, Bert – ex Int Project 3rd CST
    33. Weiland, Kurt – ex CO OSA Int, CO CMOI
    34. Weinberg, Rena – ex ED ABLE Int, Freedom Medal Winner
    35. Wheelis, Michele – ex O/O CST
    36. Wilhere, Sue – ex Compilations Dir R Comps
    37. Willis, Tom – ex Dir R&D CST
    38. Vorm, Tom – ex D/CO Prod CST
    39. Yager, Marc A. – ex IMPR Events Execution Off,CO CMOI, D/CO Prod CMOI, IG Admin, Snr Messenger

    GO GO GO :)
  23. anon1957 Member

    Re: Postcards to the edge?

    This is so weird. I just made a similar post, before I saw this.

    http://forums.whyweprotest.net/7-ge...me-sp-hall-hemet-californias-gold-base-11525/

    I have also participated in many Amnesty International campaigns and it has been SO gratifying to see a prisoner of conscience that I wrote to/and about eventually get out and talk about how precious the letters were.

    Also, postcards are inoculated against fingerprint IDs because they are handled by so may people on the way to their destination. They also do not need a return address, and one can be VERY creative with them. I am going to go pick up a bunch of tourist postcards of really cool & beautiful places to remind them that there is a big world out there that can be quite wonderful.

    [edit] also it might be a good idea to include www. exseaorg.com so that non-sp staff who read these have a place to contact if they figure out a way to blow. I am thinking about Marc Headley's weekly trips to Jack in the Box. If someone had this website memorized, they could simply walk away and go to an internet cafe and email for help.
  24. anon1957 Member

    Re: Stockholm Syndrome in the SP Hall at Hemet California's Gold Base

    The hive mind is a alive because someone else already thought of this yesterday.

    Moar excellent idears on this thread as well: Operation Over the Wall.

    I am going to start out sending 10 a day. And then after I send the 1st 10 (about 4 days) then I am going to send them out in batches of five every few days. With new postcards each time, of course!

    Here is the SP Hall list:
    Also--I would like to know if anyone has any ideas as to how to better publicize this to the press and interesting/effective signs and posters for the next protest.
  25. UnderToad Member

    Re: Stockholm Syndrome in the SP Hall at Hemet California's Gold Base

    Operation Wish You Were Here. I'm on it!
  26. AnonPyro Member

    Re: Stockholm Syndrome in the SP Hall at Hemet California's Gold Base

    One of the great advantages to this is that it's very difficult for the Co$ to make us look bad if this kind of thing is spread to the press... "OH NOES, THE EVIL TERRORISTS ARE SENDING OUR ILLEGAL PRISONERS POSTCARDS!!1!11!!"

    I'll get some sent from the USPS site - I'm thinking we could also get a list of all the staff of a specific org. It'd be more effective if we sent postcards to ALL the staff of an org in a single day, then sent more to a different org the next week. Could we send them postcards at home???
  27. Re: Postcards to the edge?

    I have added the exseaorg address to the PICTURE side of the postcards I am sending, so even someone who is trying not to read entheta will see it if he or she glances at the pic.

    I love you guys so much.
  28. Top Grunge Member

    Re: Stockholm Syndrome in the SP Hall at Hemet California's Gold Base

    Great idea....heres how COS can spin it, and yes postcards over sealed notes for sure, but still.

    They get postcards...put a lil powder on em...or residue from some chemical...or add whatever is written on the card to be threatening or...

    just simply enough, write their own postcards to themselves that are threatening violence and so on. Then they can say we postcarded them violent threats, and here in this thread is the proof we were gonna postcard them. They can spin this.

    That being said, I still think its a great idea and worth Co$'s attempts to spin it.

    Also....is it possible to send them letters or postcards or something that the actual person would have to sign for as to getting? o we know it got in their hands or if CO$ denied that person access to the postal employee?
  29. A.Non Hubbard Member

    Re: Stockholm Syndrome in the SP Hall at Hemet California's Gold Base

    I am so up for this bout of enturbulatin'.
  30. anon1957 Member

    Re: Postcards to the edge?

    Today I am writing some handwritten ones from postcards I have accumulated over the years.

    Things like:

    Your old friends are concerned and are here to help you. Visit www. exseaorg.com

    Your old friends haven't forgotten you and miss your very much. visit...

    Did you know Mike Rinder and Mary DeMoss recently blew, and are doing JUST fine? For help, go to...

    All somewhat different; one or two sentences with the exseaorg addy.

    Its kind of fun!

    [edit] Dont forget to include the exseaorg toll free help line:

    1-866-XSEAORG!
  31. anon1957 Member

    Re: Stockholm Syndrome in the SP Hall at Hemet California's Gold Base

    If the powdery residue was put there by anon, it would be all over the PO. Which it won't be.

    Besides they have already sent so many bomb threats and fake anthrax letters to themselves that no one will believe them anymore.

    You can't send a certified letter w/out namefagging yourself. Let actual family and friends do that.

    Stick to postcards. Very safe and effective.
  32. Optimisticate Member

    Re: Stockholm Syndrome in the SP Hall at Hemet California's Gold Base

    How about milk cartons with MISSING and a list of names, or 39 separate milk cartons with a last known picture of the person with their name? 39 people standing in a row with one person's name on each sign with "Missing - What has Scientology DONE?" (Better than "Missing in Scientology's RFP"). The concept is that these people are missing.

    The public is learning, but using regular street language as opposed to CoS's mumbo jumbo is still easier.
  33. Delta Member

    Re: Stockholm Syndrome in the SP Hall at Hemet California's Gold Base

    The only problem with this idea, as was said above, is that if a postcard goes through the mail system there will be MANY pairs of hands touching it, but if a $cilon goes out and gets one, makes a terroristic threat on it, and then gives it to the "prisoner", the card will have very few fingerprints on it, most likely 2-3 sets. If it was tested for fingerprints, someone would definately be able to tell the difference between a card sent through the USPS and a card that was picked up at CVS.
  34. Robert S Member

    Re: Stockholm Syndrome in the SP Hall at Hemet California's Gold Base

    Doing some here!

    I wonder what would happen if Davey got 9000+ postcards addressed to him? Where would we send that?
  35. JMac85 Member

    Re: Stockholm Syndrome in the SP Hall at Hemet California's Gold Base

    But it's a postcard. If there were any threatening messages, wouldn't the postal service easily catch them?

    That said, I'm down. I'm a snail-mail tard though, I've only mailed about 10 things in my entire life. None of them being a postcard. How do I fill it out? What's the address I send them to? I have the handwriting of a spastic five year old, would it be fitting to make my own cards and draw a picture with crayon on the front?
  36. AnonPyro Member

    Re: Stockholm Syndrome in the SP Hall at Hemet California's Gold Base

    Another thought, postcards sent through the USPS service would be recorded by USPS themselves along with the message printed on them, so we can use their records to show the messages that were sent. Sure it doesn't stop them from doing a threatening hand-written one but it's a start...
  37. anon1957 Member

    Re: Stockholm Syndrome in the SP Hall at Hemet California's Gold Base

    Make a postcard in Shoop and print it out. Or, draw with crayon. Go to the USPS website and order stamps online (so you don't have to wait in line at the PO) and stick them in a blue mailbox. Have fun, remind whoever reads them that the real world can be a really nice fun place.

    Make sure you order post card stamps; they are a lot cheaper.

    Also:

    Toll Free Sea Org Help Line

    1-866-XSEAORG. That way a guy who can't get near a computer can stick a quarter in a pay phone and get help.
  38. HailXenu79 Member

    Re: Stockholm Syndrome in the SP Hall at Hemet California's Gold Base

    This is a fucking awesome idea.

    GOGOGOGOGOGOGOGO!!!

    EDIT: Also, maybe this should be moved to Breaking News so more people will see it?
  39. BTs2Free Member

    Re: Stockholm Syndrome in the SP Hall at Hemet California's Gold Base

    This postcards campaign is BRILLIANT!

    True, the people who are being held in the SP Hall for the most part are brainwashed to the point that they believe that their only spiritual freedom and salvation lies within Scientology. They also believe that if they can get through their A-E SP program steps that possibly DM will set them free and put them back on a respectable post someday.

    For example, Marc Yager has been busted by DM so many times and then reposted in postitions such as CO CMO Int that there is still hope in their minds of making good.

    There was an FBI raid not too long ago when friends concerned for Kathy Lemmer who is in the SP Hall went to the base and spoke to her personally. She said that she was fine and so they had to leave without her.

    Kathy is probably thinking that that was possibly her last chance to get out, but remember, she believes that her eternity as a being depends on what she does in Scientology.

    These people believe that they were suppressive and that DM is right for doing what he's done and that they should be seperated from the rest of the base and society for their so called "destructive actions" as SPs.

    Regarding the OP, David Bloomberg was a very high ranking SO officer. He was ED ASI for a long time and then was MEI (Marketing Exec Int). DM was very displeased with everything Bloomberg ever worked on and felt that he was a tiger (Scientologese for an executive bent on destroying administrative lines). Bloomberg was headed to the SP Hall even when I was on the decks during the formation of the Hall.

    Sorry for tl;dr however, this postcards idea is brilliant if we can keep the campaign going. I too will be doing this.

    Someone said to send cards that are colorfull from locations in the real world and such. Possibly this will get through to people who are trapped there. Even the Security Guards who are trapped there because not even they get a day off or have any freedoms of their own. They only feel lucky that they get to be the enforcers and not the recipients. I know, because I was one of them.

    All mail is opened by Security BEFORE the recipient can get their mail. This is to ensure that nobody has an SP connection or has a PTS situation. This from what I understand is a Federal offence in itself.

    These postcards we send will ultimately go to RTC's Director of External Security. This used to be a fellow named Hansueli Stahli and he possibly still holds that position - the other RTC terminal involved would be Warren McShane. With more and more postcards coming in Dave Miscavige will definitely get word of the campaign and this will piss him off to no end.

    Regardless, word will get around about this by the lower staff in HCO who were privy to the info and the data will leak and spread. This will be a subject brought up at the base Perimiter Council meetings and will become common knowledge in the Qual Division for those staff who are responsible for PTS handlings.

    If we can get word around the base that there are people on the outseide who are genuenly concerned for their well being, possibly we can shift the vewipoint on the base that being imprisoned and having one's rights taken away is wrong and suppressive in itself.

    Nothing but good could come from this.

    I call it Postcards from Paradise:
    YouTube - Flesh For Lulu - Postcards From Paradise

    I'm in!

    Cheers!
    BTs2Free
  40. Top Grunge Member

    Re: Stockholm Syndrome in the SP Hall at Hemet California's Gold Base

    Thanks guys, I totally agree, I was just pointing out what I thought were the only weak points CO$ could manipulate. Very good points and I agree completely.

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