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OSA PUBLICLY Threatens All Ex-Scilons with De-classifying Their PC Folders!!!

Discussion in 'Leaks & Legal' started by Anonynamefag, Jun 21, 2009.

  1. Uncle Bruce Member

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    Yes. Now he does it without thinking!
  2. Touchstone Member

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    I think I'm going to hyperventilate from how much Scilon fail I'm witnessing here; they're publicly admitting that they don't actually keep the confessions/audits confidential. They're admitting to their own lies in their panic to cover up this new problem. The Scientology house is on fire and these morons are trying to douse the flames with lamp oil.

    I need a paper bag to breathe into.
  3. Anonynamefag Member

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    Shit, meet fan. Anyone know if there's another gem like this out there?
  4. DeathHamster Member

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    I don't think Davie trusts anyone to audit him. Wasn't there a claim that he hasn't been in session for a loooong time?
  5. Shalashar Member

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    Outside of the FBI raids with regard operation freakout, I don't think so. Certainly can't think of another all in one delicious footbullet on this scale.
  6. Uncle Bruce Member

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    I've been looking into this a little deeper because it is a serious accusation. It would seem that ethics folders are different from auditing folders. Are we perhaps confusing apples and oranges?
    That is assuming we are not being had by another anon.
  7. Anonynamefag Member

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    We've already established that if this IS an Anon, he's a troll among trolls. A brilliant impersonation of a Scilon, and convincing enough to get Terryeo to believe him.
  8. DeathHamster Member

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    Nah. I can see them pulling the files on a current member to figure out why someone thought that fixing their kids' teeth were more important than "donating" to the latest slush fund and war chest for the most ethical organization on the planet.

    "Obviously something was missed! Search their files for missed withholds and get them in for repair auditing!"

    We will never betray your trust, as long as you do everything we say.
  9. DeathHamster Member

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    Contract:
    contract2.jpg
  10. Shalashar Member

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    When I was SSO in plymouth org I had access to preclear folders, they contained knowledge reports as well as auditing files. There was no clear distinction between auditing or ethics folders, that could however have been a plymouth specific thing however. Ethics wasn't my dept though.

    One thing I will say though: Anyone on staff, even if only for a matter of months is made aware of the fair game policy where it clearly states that a persons files will be trawled through for "blood sex crimes". To suggest that this is "extraordinary" in any way with regard how they deal with their former staff (or even public who turn on em) is bullshit of the highest order. Public scilons are not told about fairgame, dead agenting or anything else of that nature.
  11. Anonymous Member

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    Well, that just threw a good number of their claims to being a religion out the window.
  12. OTBT Member

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    Flag Service Organization Agreement Regarding Confidential Religious Files

    http://www.exposescientology.com/contracts/cos-fso-confidential-files-2000 .pdf


    Church of Scientology Agreement Regarding Confidential Religious Files.
    Similar agreement to the one above, but this is for all Scientology Organizations, not just for Flag.

    http://www.exposescientology.com/contracts/cos-confidential-files-2000 .pdf


    Lots more contracts here:

    Research re Scientology Contracts, Church of Scientology
  13. YAHRLY Member

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    there is not troll so great amongst us
    surely it must be a scifag, none of us are that clever
  14. Anonynamefag Member

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    So they are damaging their future lives by revealing confidential confessions? For shame! D:<
  15. anonhuff Member

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    Is any of the information released by scientology on the defectors information that would have only been obtainable in the UK, thus shipped outside of the UK and used against them, in clear violation within the UK? See where I'm going?
  16. Anonymous Member

    Re: OSA PUBLICLY Threatens All Ex-Scilons with De-classifying Their PC Folders!!!

    Rinder and Rathburn could also make use of the UK Libel Laws.
  17. Re: OSA PUBLICLY Threatens All Ex-Scilons with De-classifying Their PC Folders!!!

    I have posted the interview with Tommy Davis if anyone is interested. In this, he doesn't threaten exactly, but he mentions their are confidential things that they won't talk about.

    Audio of all six parts has been put as an mp3 here

    TommyDavis.OnBeatings.Parts1To6.mp3

    it comes from the tampa bay website - link here.

    Scientology: Church's response video| Tampabay.com St. Petersburg Times

    I also have the first draft of the the first 3 parts of the interview here. I could use a little help on the names. I haven't had time to do a search etc. Wanted to get it up first.

    TommyDavis.txt

    I think I was wrong about there being a video camera though, he was telling the interviewer 'look at me when Im talking to you' (pretty creepy). So I am guessing the interviewer though Tommy was a total nut and couldn't stand looking at him.

    an interesting excerpt

    and then later
    Also in case you needed any confirmation DM has little man syndrome. Um I wonder who briefed Tommy to say all this?

    I will do the rest of the transcription tomorrow, and correct the names if I can.
  18. Anonymous Member

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    Thanks OneOne but transcript of Tommy audio already done.

    http://forums.whyweprotest.net/905464-post511/

    No use it being done twice.
  19. Anonymous Member

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    Would anyone not in the cult take the contents of a folder seriously? It's pretty much understood that the "past lives" stuff is bullshit, people will say whatever they have to say to get an acceptable meter read and that the "ethics" folders are a joke. Could the release of the contents of an ex's files be a libelous act on the part of the cult? How would they prove a) That you actually said those things since your "auditor" has probably long blown and wouldn't be available to corroborate the cult's version? or b) If you did, how much of it was said just to get them off your back about your alleged "crimes"?

    The blackmail attempt by the cult is a good thing in terms of revealing what bastards these people really are. Someone made a reference in an earlier post to the sound of wallets slamming shut... Oh, yeah! This is a short-sighted attempt by the cult to silence or discredit a few critics at the risk of letting their public know that whatever they say in an auditing session or sec-check can and will be used against them PUBLICLY if they leave or otherwise piss off the cult.

    IMO not enough has been made of this point by the media.
  20. OHSHI Member

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    You guys are misunderstanding the significance of this article. Not your fault, none of you were Scilons.

    OSA does not come out and write blogs, especially blogs on a popular web 2.0 site, threatening ex-members. This is an angry scilon, but not an OSA scilon.

    Stick to the beef of this story: Tommy Davis accused Marty Rathbun of being a 'whole track prison warden', which is a violation of KSW-- you don't talk about others case (info in P/C folder). I think he also said he had info on Marty admitting stuff... stuff in the P/C folder.

    Same emotions/reactions from you guys, just switch the attention to what I mentioned.
  21. OHSHI Member

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    You're not dealing with a sane group of people. They don't acknowledge what you agree with or the majority public opinion. These people believe in Xenu, and think they are the resurrection of the Loyal Officers... try to get in their mindset to understand and destroy them. Think.
  22. Anonymous Member

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    Gay sex isn't something anyone has to 'own up' to, godtard.
    Being unfaithful is another matter.
  23. Anonymous Member

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    lol wut
  24. Oswald2001 Member

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    Gay sex is definitely something Ted had to 'own up' to in his Christian circles.

    In fact, in those circles, gay sex is just as bad as being unfaithful...if not worse.
  25. Anonymous Member

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    Something Tom Cruise and Davey can admit to, too.
  26. auchraw Member

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    "The Church said that Mr Rinder, in his confidential files, admitted that he lied 43 times over the years. Yet, during the time when Mr Rinder was Church spokesperson, the lying Mr Rinder had publicly denied being the victim of assaults by Mr Miscavige, said Mr Davis. "

    I didn't see that anyone else picked this up. If Mr Rinder does not tell the truth and if he denies being beaten by Mr Miscavige, then logically he was beaten by Mr M. Whoever wrote this has a sense of humor. I suspect a very observant, intelligent and trusted mole.
  27. Anonymous Member

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    Please release them all. Then your followers will have nothing more to fear.

    Once you have lost everything, you can do anything.
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  28. Smurf Member

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    Actually, many of us ex-Scientologists do since they contain alot of very person & imtimate information about families, relationships, and confessing to crimes that never occurred, but we all had an understanding it made our peers happy and it was expected of us. Yeah, looking back we realize "What the fuck we're we thinking?"

    Some of my confessionals have already been released and read to anons at raids by our beloved handlers Patty Baber & Tim Armer.
  29. LilDebbie Member

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    you raped an entire planet of adorable puppies, didn't you smurf?
  30. Anonymous Member

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    Good catch. I'm starting to think that whoever posted this was a very elaborate troll.
  31. Re: OSA PUBLICLY Threatens All Ex-Scilons with De-classifying Their PC Folders!!!

    I am trying to understand. So you're saying that interview with Tommy alone where he makes a direct reference to Marty's case file, not the actual blog, is a violation of KSW. Do you think that this might be considered justifiable in the case that Marty is fair game as they have attacked David Miscaviage? Or this is an absolute that can't be broken even if someone is fair game? Do you think that this is going to filter down to lower level Scilons and make them think twice? Or do you think this mainly affect Sea Org members? Because I notice in the interview he says their are rules or protocols which apply only to the Sea Org. Is he trying to imply that he will do this to Sea Org members only?

    On another issue. Tommy seems very worked up in this interview and out of control (Yeah no kidding, you say). Does anyone else think that he might have divulged the information on Marty accidentally. Because earlier in the interview, he says he would not talk about it, and then he gets very worked up and then maybe it slipped out. When I was doing the transcription it was really hard because he was stuttering a lot and I think he was trying to control his anger at the points he was stuttering. He is not stuttering when he is absolutely angry. To me, I can see the parts in the interview that DM has clearly scripted and then I suspect there are things that Tommy has improvised.

    I guess what I'm curious about is what David Miscaviages intentions for the interview were and the way the interview actually turned out were. Because it can't possibly look good for DM that his main PR guy Tommy is yelling and screaming and journalists and demanding that they look him in the eye while telling them that their cult leader is not psychotic.

    To me DM told him to tell them that
    - it is a strict and tough religious order with its own rules and some people can't hack it
    - DM has had lots of great achievements, so how does he have the time to beat people?
    - that we can't talk about these people
    - allegations are all lies.
    - that all of the assaults were performed by the accusers
    - that in the Sea org, there were very high number of assaults
    - defectors who badmouth DM them were criminal people

    Does anyone else have an opinion on whether DM intend this, because when he says them he is very worked up, particularly the whole track part. I think these things slipped out.
    - when you talk to Marty tell him he is a coward and psychotic
    - whole-track prison warden - he admitted it...

    On an analysis of the interview, I guess I am surprised that DM possibly intended that Tommy should tell people that at least 4 of the Sea Org members who left were violent criminals and that assaults on the int base were routine. Tommy seems in control when he is saying these things.

    With this in mind, I wonder if Tommy going to be going back to the RPF.
  32. Anonynamefag Member

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    I wouldn't be surprised. He admitted that there is a lot of violence among the Sea Org, he admitted to the musical chairs incident, and he admitted to overboarding. This, combined with when he admitted to the Xenu story... Tommy Davis has single-handedly undone, in less than half a year, what took years of lies, bribery, lawsuits, and Fair Game took to build.

    Tommy Davis is the cancer that killed Scientology.
  33. Namenlos Member

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    I love how it's saying Your confidential shit is not confidential!
  34. Re: OSA PUBLICLY Threatens All Ex-Scilons with De-classifying Their PC Folders!!!

    THIS^^^^^^^
  35. Anonynamefag Member

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    inorite? Way to not KSW. I'm sure the publics would love to see this.
  36. JohnnyRUClear Member

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    rathbunsmall.jpg [IMG]
    Heh?

    Still inb4viagrajoke. C'mon, guise. (Too candyfrombebeh?)
  37. Re: OSA PUBLICLY Threatens All Ex-Scilons with De-classifying Their PC Folders!!!

    The 'alleged' church is admitting here that their chief spokesperson for many years was a known liar? Why would they keep such a liar in this position and replace him by another well-documented liar in Tommy Davis? Isn't Scientology suppose to be the study of truth? lol. Since he publicly denied being beaten by Miscavige, this liar named Rinder must have been beaten by the little tyrant.
  38. Re: OSA PUBLICLY Threatens All Ex-Scilons with De-classifying Their PC Folders!!!

    Tommy Davis is the best PR man anonymous ever had.

    Yeah I am surprised they still let him open his mouth in front of journalists. But Mark Headley claims they don't have anyone else.

    I am still not convinced that David did not script the part that said they had done all of this violence. It seemed rehearsed. tommy had all the facts at his fingertips. And he even begins that tirade with his little intro on 'fundamentals'. I suspect these are the fundamentals he was instructed with by DM. But I can't see how DM would be that stupid.
  39. Anonymous Member

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    Not for awhile. His absence now would be bad PR.

    "Get angry" is part of the formula, because the display is justified in their view. They don't see themselves as dramatizing idiots until years later when their emotions are drained and their logic shot to pieces.
  40. Smurf Member

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    I've confessed to many things, but never the abuse of dogs. I love all dogs. Well, except for Patty Baber.

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