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Discussion in 'Fair Game Reports and Personal Experiences' started by zebrafaced, Feb 13, 2009.

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  1. zebrafaced Member

    Parents freak out over C&D

    I got my C&D today. Well, rather, my parents did. It was one of the Johnson, Pope, Bokor, Ruppel & Burns, LLP, letters, personally signed by Pope.

    They have padre freaking out and considering having me b& from protests, probably the internet as well, so I won't be able to contact Anons or participate in anything.

    I need some SOLID info to show him that C&D letters lead to nothing unless we personally do something illegal. I've looked through several threads and I can't really find that much, just a lot of "send it to the FBI."

    Halp plz?

    Can a mod change the title of this thread to "Parents freak out over C&D"?
  2. Elbynonamous Member

    re: Parents freak out over C&D

    Tell them it's like a badge of honor. It doesn't mean anything, seeing as none of us, including you, have done anything illegal. All it means is that they found out who you are and are trying to scare you.

    Tell them that this is just proof of Scn's bullbaiting.

    Good luck. :C
  3. HellRazor Member

    re: Parents freak out over C&D

    Ask them to show it to your family's lawyer for advice.
  4. da5id Administrator

    re: Parents freak out over C&D

    You might have better luck with a thread title like "How did you convince your parents that C&D's are BS?"...
  5. Anonymous Member

    re: Parents freak out over C&D

    Said it in the last outted thread, will say it again: Need a database of letters and dox to debunk C&D and to build papertrail for later use.

    Do eet! Noa plz.
  6. Anonynamefag Member

    re: Parents freak out over C&D

    Is it addressed to your parents? Does it say you specifically are participating in terrorist activities?

    If so, that's libel, and can get said lawyer disbarred and/or sued.
  7. tazor Member

    re: Parents freak out over C&D

    They really step it up before a protest, don' they?
  8. re: Parents freak out over C&D

    Can you scan the letter and throw it up here?

    Wikii has some info on the use of C&D letters to stop free speech. Look up Cease and Desist Letter in Wikii.

    They aren't anything. They are scare tactics (ask your parents why it was sent to them and not sent to you- that helps make it obvious that this was just intended to scare).

    They MUST be able to link you to these things. Also, let them see the Fox11 interview with Tommy where he tries to blame Anon for some things and the reporter specifically says that it's a false accusation.
  9. Tom Daschle Member

    re: Parents freak out over C&D

    Ignore it. Let them keep guessing if they got the right person. Remember, it's only a win if they get a reaction,
  10. King Nerd Member

    re: Parents freak out over C&D

    OP, I suggest you link your folks to this thread. So they can see how BS the letters are and just how much we laugh about them.
  11. azonymous Member

  12. terryeo2 Member

    re: Parents freak out over C&D

    - Show parents WWP, local Anon cell. Prove that there are no bad things being planned here
    - Explain "-fag," etc language. Its not an insult, its part of the culture. Relate to how black people in the inner-city call each other the n-word.
    - Show parents fair game materials, to show that this is what Sci does to try and scare away protestors
    - Remind parents that this letter has no legal weight, but invite them to call family attorney/Graham Berry to get that statement straight from a lawyer

    - Tell your parents that this piece of libel should be sent to police and local FBI. You are being harassed for using your right to free speech. You have done nothing illegal, but some group is trying to scare you into not showing up for future protests based on your religious views (I know Sci isn't a religion, but it counts as a "religious" view to have the view that they are not religious, based on the laws of this country).

    - Hell, get the parents to call the C&D lawyers and demand that they stop sending libellous letters to a minor (if you are a minor). I'm pretty sure there are some laws about this...

    On an off note, does anyone know if the Civil Rights protestors, or the no-Prop 8 people, or the LBGT-rights community have ever had these types of letters sent to them, and what the outcome was?
  13. re: Parents freak out over C&D

    People have been getting them for a year now. Nothing has come of any of them. Then protest more. It's not a surprise that they send these out, they've been doing the same old tired routine forever now because they're incapable of thinking of any new strategy that might actually work. The more C&Ds they send out, the more people become dedicated to tearing them down.

    p.s. guys, this is why you tell people you know about fair game ahead of time~ Faggots.
  14. King Nerd Member

    re: Parents freak out over C&D

    Trufax!
  15. azonymous Member

    re: Parents freak out over C&D

    Keep in mind OP is underage (mature for her age) and the jerks sent the C&D to her parents.

    Now they are afraid for her to go (she got namefagged)

    OP wants info on how to convince her parents that she's not in danger, etc.

    To OP - there is a video, I think it's called "A message to the parents of anonymous" and Tori did it. Some of it's real good, some of it kind of wanders, could be better, take a look if U think it might be useful

    Another Issue
    I agree with another poster that a section on this would be great for reference.

    It comes up frequently, and will probably more so.

    Additionally, it would help keep everything in one place when it's needed in a hurry
  16. TinyDancer Member

    re: Parents freak out over C&D

    Tell them to ring the local police - give them your cell's contact in the police - and ask them if the Anons in your town are a problem.
  17. King Nerd Member

    re: Parents freak out over C&D

    THIS
  18. ClingingMars Member

    re: Parents freak out over C&D

    i hope i get one of these eventually. it'll mean I'll have protested enough to piss 'em off.
  19. re: Parents freak out over C&D

    They don't really give 'em out in our area. :( I think they learned that we celebrate every time someone was sent one. *sniff* One less excuse to drink and party.
  20. ClingingMars Member

    re: Parents freak out over C&D

    :(

    oh well. maybe I can get a homeless man to tail me home :D
  21. King Nerd Member

    re: Parents freak out over C&D

    I call those those excuses, "every day."
  22. firebug Member

    re: Parents freak out over C&D

    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MVAcF5p1Euo&feature=channel]YouTube - To The Parents of Anonymous[/ame]
  23. zebrafaced Member

    re: Parents freak out over C&D

    Last night, I think padre went on the WWP chat room and was saying I'd no longer participate. I'll show him this thread whenever he gets up, though he'll probably be pissed because he moar than likely got trolled to hell. Whatever, this thread should be enough.

    thx guize
  24. reznik Member

    Re: Parents freak out over C&D

    yeah. there is some good stuff ITT.
    Remember he could always call Magoo.

    "Silencing their Critics with Abusive and Bogus Legal Threats" is exactly what your protesting against.

    The Letter means little other than "We Know Who You Are" intimidation.

    Good Luck.
  25. zebrafaced Member

    Re: Parents freak out over C&D

    Also, I'll scan it in when I can - my scanner has recently decided that it is blind - but it's the copypasta "in 2006, Anonymous member did this, and in 2007, then in 2008, we believe she is misinformed about Scientology" letter. It wasn't addressed to me, it was addressed to my parents, so they changed certain things accordingly.

    Oh, and I'm a self-proclaimed leader of Anonymous.
  26. Erra Member

    Re: Parents freak out over C&D

    Hey loli, someone who was claiming to be your dad was on IRC last night

    If it was your dad I feel sorry for you. He got trolled like a mother fucker. But its his own fault he was going on about his little Rover and blah blah blah and something about him being a US MARINE and us sucking at tactics and shit liek that.

    It was fun
  27. zebrafaced Member

    Re: Parents freak out over C&D

    Oh for fuck's sake. Yeah, that was him. I imagine the lulz were great, 'cause he was drunk and is not savvy on the ways of the internet.

    Have a log of it? I imagine it was fucking hilarious. I'm so glad he decided to throw out my real name and such on IRC.
  28. reznik Member

    Re: Parents freak out over C&D

    IF HE IS WORRIED ABOUT IT. JOIN US. MILITARY SPECIALISTICS ESPECIALLY WELCOME.

    TELL YOUR DAD THAT SCIENTOLOGY SHOULD BE HIS ENEMY.
    THEY ARE GOOD AT CREATING THEM WHEN THEY BEHAVE LIKE THEY BEHAVED TO YOU (AND OTHERS)

    Also. PLease post Logs. I ALWAYS enjoy IRC Drama logs. No exceptions.
  29. RedOrbifold Member

    Re: Parents freak out over C&D

    also, if you get any ideas about sneaking online to help out, dont'.

    I'm not saying that you shouldn't try, but parents like the truth and want to protect you. As soon as they know that you're safe and they can't do anything with their CandD, they'll losen up and will definitely not be happy with the cos.

    protip: parents want dox and stuff to know you're safe
  30. PAnonA Member

    Re: Parents freak out over C&D

    Exactly. IT was hard to believe him at first because the second thing he said was "Zerafaced's father got kidnapped by scientology" or some crap like that. Then meatwad came in and kept saying that his IP is connected with Scientology, so ...trolling was indeed there.
  31. zebrafaced Member

    Re: Parents freak out over C&D

    His personal PROTIPS:

    1. Do not post ANYWHERE about what you're doing.
    2. Moralfags need only apply to anything.
    3. You're all a bunch of kids who don't know shit about anything.
    4. ???
    5. NO FUCKING PROFIT.
  32. zebrafaced Member

    Re: Parents freak out over C&D

    :confused:

    My father sure is interesting when he's drunk...
  33. amaX Member

    Re: Parents freak out over C&D


    whatever you do, do NOT put a call into tory christman. she does not speak for Anonymous. in fact, christman has been advocating that Anonymous drop their anonymity almost from day one. she does not understand Anonymous and should not be someone that you contact for anything related to Anonymous.

    she has never shown any remorse for the harm she's done and is laissez faire about the fact that her actions namefagged many Anons.

    wait, if your father would be swayed by a rambling almost incoherent conversation that involves someone talking about their own self-importance and never touching on the reason they've been called? then by all means, call tory christman.


    z, have your father read about all the thousands of people who've been drug into court after receiving their C&D letter and who now have a criminal record because of the C&D. have him read about how they all had to serve jail time and were heavily fined and incurred all those outrageous lawyer's fees and court costs.

    what's that? NOT ONE? you're sure?

    they simply mean nothing and i wish someone still had that ling to that attorneys' blogsite where all the lawyers were laughing their asses off at the attorneys sending these useless C & D's. their peers were tearing them apart. hell, at one time a group of attorneys from tampa were thinking of coming over and protesting just so they could get a C & D and show it off. i believe they backed out because our protests cut into their time allotted for playing golf. ;)
  34. Mutante Member

    Re: Parents freak out over C&D

    This ^^^

    When your parents have chatted to a lawyer and understood how the letter is an empty threat designed to dissuade you from legal protest and scare you off from exercizing your constitutionally protected rights, buy them some EFG masks and prepare for some extra incoming healthy respect.

    Anyone who stands up for free speech and human rights is demonstrating excellent judgement and character.
  35. dojo Member

    Re: Parents freak out over C&D

    Tell him #marblecake thinks his suggestions are Fail.
    His trolling was pretty fail in irc.
    LoL trolling backfire "zebrafaced has been kidnapped" - nice opener.
  36. pardmepard Member

    Re: Parents freak out over C&D


    Sounds like he trolled right back ?

    thread is epic lol

    feel bad for you though.

    Hope he get's involved with you and it will be a family affair.

    did you tell him about disconnection?
  37. Erra Member

    Re: Parents freak out over C&D

    Im looking at it now, no log but Ill copypaste some of what he said.

    Personally, I think this is all a troll from a prepubescent girl looking for attention. Though maybe your dad really did get drunk and came in to IRC. In that case, I feel sorry for you, your dad is an idiot.
  38. pardmepard Member

    Re: Parents freak out over C&D



    Welcome back King Nerd : )
  39. amaX Member

    Re: Parents freak out over C&D

    i'm sorry i missed your dad in chat. i speak fluent redneck cracker and i know i'm probably older than him. btw? please thank him for calling me a "kid." i love that.

    no one has ever been drug into court after being served a C&D. they are useless and any attorney will tell you that.
  40. ARC Member

    Re: Parents freak out over C&D

    zebrafaced's dad is now the leader of Anonymous
    You should qualify that with no one has ever been drug into court after being served one of these C&D letters from Scientology. Real C&Ds with grounds and evidence behind them do sometimes lead to court, but none of these Scientology letters have.
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