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Paul Haggis has left the CoS

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  1. Anonymous Member

    Paul Haggis has left the CoS

    The anonymous letter posted to Tommy on Marty's blog were authored by Paul Haggis.

    Moving On Up a Little Higher



    The entire leaked Haggis letter (now with 33% less cocktease)
    Code:
    Tommy,
    
    As you know, for ten months now I have been writing to ask you to make 
    a public statement denouncing the actions of the Church of Scientology 
    of San Diego. Their public sponsorship of Proposition 8, a hate-filled 
    legislation that succeeded in taking away the civil rights of gay and 
    lesbian citizens of California – rights that were granted them by the 
    Supreme Court of our state – shames us. 
    
    I called and wrote and implored you, as the official spokesman of 
    the church, to condemn their actions. I told you I could not, in good 
    conscience, be a member of an organization where gay-bashing was 
    tolerated. 
    
    In that first conversation, back at the end of October of last year, 
    you told me you were horrified, that you would get to the bottom of it 
    and “heads would roll.” You promised action. Ten months passed. No action 
    was forthcoming. The best you offered was a weak and carefully worded 
    press release, which praised the church’s human rights record and took 
    no responsibility. Even that, you decided not to publish. 
    
    The church’s refusal to denounce the actions of these bigots, 
    hypocrites and homophobes is cowardly. I can think of no other word. 
    Silence is consent, Tommy. I refuse to consent. 
    
    I joined the Church of Scientology thirty-five years ago. During my 
    twenties and early thirties I studied and received a great deal of 
    counseling. While I have not been an active member for many years, 
    I found much of what I learned to be very helpful, and I still apply 
    it in my daily life. I have never pretended to be the best Scientologist, 
    but I openly and vigorously defended the church whenever it was criticized, 
    as I railed against the kind of intolerance that I believed was directed 
    against it. I had my disagreements, but I dealt with them internally. 
    I saw the organization – with all its warts, growing pains and 
    problems – as an underdog. And I have always had a thing for underdogs. 
    
    But I reached a point several weeks ago where I no longer knew what to 
    think. You had allowed our name to be allied with the worst elements of 
    the Christian Right. In order to contain a potential “PR flap” you 
    allowed our sponsorship of Proposition 8 to stand. Despite all the 
    church’s words about promoting freedom and human rights, its name is 
    now in the public record alongside those who promote bigotry and 
    intolerance, homophobia and fear. 
    
    The fact that the Mormon Church drew all the fire, that no one noticed, 
    doesn’t matter. I noticed. And I felt sick. I wondered how the church 
    could, in good conscience, through the action of a few and then the 
    inaction of its leadership, support a bill that strips a group of its 
    civil rights. 
    
    This was my state of mind when I was online doing research and chanced 
    upon an interview clip with you on CNN. The interview lasted maybe ten 
    minutes – it was just you and the newscaster. And in it I saw you deny 
    the church’s policy of disconnection. You said straight-out there was no 
    such policy, that it did not exist. 
    
    I was shocked. We all know this policy exists. I didn’t have to search 
    for verification – I didn’t have to look any further than my own home. 
    
    You might recall that my wife was ordered to disconnect from her parents 
    because of something absolutely trivial they supposedly did twenty-five 
    years ago when they resigned from the church. This is a lovely retired 
    couple, never said a negative word about Scientology to me or anyone 
    else I know – hardly raving maniacs or enemies of the church. In fact 
    it was they who introduced my wife to Scientology. 
    
    Although it caused her terrible personal pain, my wife broke off all 
    contact with them. I refused to do so. I’ve never been good at following 
    orders, especially when I find them morally reprehensible. 
    
    For a year and a half, despite her protestations, my wife did not speak 
    to her parents and they had limited access to their grandchild. It was a 
    terrible time. 
    
    That’s not ancient history, Tommy. It was a year ago. 
    
    And you could laugh at the question as if it was a joke? You could 
    publicly state that it doesn’t exist? 
    
    To see you lie so easily, I am afraid I had to ask myself: what else 
    are you lying about? 
    
    The great majority of Scientologists I know are good people who are 
    genuinely interested in improving conditions on this planet and helping 
    others. I have to believe that if they knew what I now know, they too 
    would be horrified. But I know how easy it was for me to defend our 
    organization and dismiss our critics, without ever truly looking at what 
    was being said; I did it for thirty-five years. And so, after writing 
    this letter, I am fully aware that some of my friends may choose to no 
    longer associate with me, or in some cases work with me. I will always 
    take their calls, as I always took yours. However, I have finally come 
    to the conclusion that I can no longer be a part of this group. Frankly, 
    I had to look no further than your refusal to denounce the church’s 
    anti-gay stance, and the indefensible actions, and inactions, of those 
    who condone this behavior within the organization. I am only ashamed 
    that I waited this many months to act. I hereby resign my membership in 
    the Church of Scientology. 
    
    Sincerely, 
    
    Paul Haggis 
    
    Ps. I’ve attached our email correspondence. At some point it became 
    evident that you did not value my concerns about the church’s tacit 
    support of an amendment that violated the civil rights of so many of our 
    citizens. Perhaps if you had done a little more research on me, the 
    church’s senior management wouldn’t have dismissed those concerns quite 
    so cavalierly. While I am no great believer in resumes and awards, this 
    is what you would have discovered: 
    
    {tl;dr list of accomplishments and awards} 
  2. Smurf Member

    Re: Paul Haggis has left the CoS

    Whoa. The guy who wrote the Bond flick, "Quantum of Solace."

    Paul Haggis - Biography
  3. Prufrock Member

    Re: Paul Haggis has left the CoS

    He quit organized scientology over its anti-gay stance. I wonder if he'd be interested in hearing about the cult's other atrocious behavior?
  4. lothar Member

  5. Skeptic1337 Member

  6. Anonymous Member

    Re: Paul Haggis has left the CoS

    Read all parts of the letter. It was not only about Prop 8 support by the CoS. He also mentions Tommy's lying about disconnection as his wife was forced to disconnect from her parents.
  7. Smurf Member

    Re: Paul Haggis has left the CoS

    I've emailed him.
  8. Anon323565898 Member

    Re: Paul Haggis has left the CoS

    Holy crap.

    Anyone here who wants to continue saying all scilons are retards, I think you just got pwnd.
  9. Anonymous Member

    Re: Paul Haggis has left the CoS

    We did?

    Fuck, who pwned us and how?
  10. Anon323565898 Member

    Re: Paul Haggis has left the CoS

    HAHAHA <3
  11. Anonymous Member

    Re: Paul Haggis has left the CoS

    Who is HAHAHA, is he some OT8?

    And who is <3? Sounds like a dangerous SP to me!
  12. Anon323565898 Member

    Re: Paul Haggis has left the CoS

    I'm just sayin Paul Haggis writes a good letter, is all.
  13. Anonymous Member

    Re: Paul Haggis has left the CoS

    and I agree.

    the cracks in the wall are getting bigger bwahahaha
  14. Anonymous Member

    Re: Paul Haggis has left the CoS

    I'm playing the old idsoftware laugh over and over right now.
  15. BusinessBecky Member

    Re: Paul Haggis has left the CoS

    nerd
  16. Anonymous Member

    Re: Paul Haggis has left the CoS

    This will spill through Hollywood like wildfire.
  17. Belladonna Member

    Re: Paul Haggis has left the CoS

    Wasn't Paul Haggis going to do a film for UA? Guess I won't hold my breath for that one.
  18. Smurf Member

    Re: Paul Haggis has left the CoS

    I just spoke to Mario (Perez Hilton) and sent him the link....

    Let the wildfire begin...
  19. Anonymous Member

    Re: Paul Haggis has left the CoS

    It would be poetic justice if Roger Friedman broke it.
  20. Anonymous Member

    Re: Paul Haggis has left the CoS

    That would explain Jason Beghe going to "Pittsburgh for the shooting of Paul Haggis' new film." I was wondering how he could associate with Haggis if Haggis was still a good standing member of CoS.
  21. Anonymous Member

    Re: Paul Haggis has left the CoS

    I really liked "In the Valley of Elah" - I never really paid any attention to who made it - kinda just assumed it was someone relatively obscure and arthouse, but someone with a good heart and a profound soul.

    There is a real take-away message here about not stereotyping Scientologists outside the core of the cult as being false about their strong human-rights convictions. It's hard to understand someone so questioning in some of his films, being so gullible when it came to criticism of scientology; being so blind to what outsiders could so readily observe.
  22. Giggles Member

    Re: Paul Haggis has left the CoS

    From the IMDb
    Paul Haggis

    Hmmm....seems like an awfully big percentage!
    I clicked on see "why" but you have to register.
  23. Anonymous Member

    Re: Paul Haggis has left the CoS

    human frailty ftw
  24. Anonymous Member

    Re: Paul Haggis has left the CoS

    Tommy's really footbulleting left and right, isn't he?
  25. Anonymous Member

    Re: Paul Haggis has left the CoS

    I'm loving it. I hope he is part of tonight's Nightline interview.
  26. WTF Member

    Re: Paul Haggis has left the CoS

    09_35_5-haggis_web.jpg

    In celebration this weekend you should eat this instead of caek.
  27. Anonymous Member

    Re: Paul Haggis has left the CoS

    om nom nom
  28. JFawkeson Member

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  29. exOT8Michael Member

    Re: Paul Haggis has left the CoS

    This guy wrote major movie screenplays? How come I never heard he was a Scilon before?
    Are sure this the same Paul Haggis?
    Just askin'.
  30. NotMike Member

    Re: Paul Haggis has left the CoS

    Those numbers jump all over the place. They are based on the number of searches for that individual. Especially for people who are not on the screen. It doesn't mean much at all.
  31. NotMike Member

    Re: Paul Haggis has left the CoS

    Congratulation Paul Haggis!

    And welcome to the start of the rest of your life.

  32. Anonymous Member

    Re: Paul Haggis has left the CoS

    The same one.
  33. scarletbanner Member

    Re: Paul Haggis has left the CoS

    1.) Anons march in the San Diego Pride Parade
    2.) San Diego Scientology conveniently supports Prop 8
    3.) Paul gets pissed off at that, enough that all the other crap starts to both him
    4.) Paul ragequits

    Based my irrational and slightly off balanced sense of logic, I have reached the conclusion that San Diego Anonymous would like to consider it their FIRST WIN, or event related to a win in any way/shape/form.

    I know, I know... group effort, Tommy Davis, etc but come on. Don't be a dick, bro... It's not cool to cock block the blind, fat man when he's about to get laid.
  34. Belladonna Member

    Re: Paul Haggis has left the CoS

    *cynical tinfoil* Rathbun must have tipped him to how damaging tonight's Nightline was going to be.
  35. Anonymous Member

    Re: Paul Haggis has left the CoS

    I vaguelly know some of Paul's family. I hope everything turns out OK for them and that they don't have to disconnect from him.
  36. Anonymous Member

    Re: Paul Haggis has left the CoS


    Maybe you should give Mario a heads up on TC getting his ass pwned on Nightline tonight?
  37. AnonyMary Member

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  38. Guero Member

    Re: Paul Haggis has left the CoS

    Absolutely incredible news. Always respected Haggis as a writer and now my respect for as a man has skyrocketed.

    Guessing Mark Isham won't be scoring his next film though...
  39. Anonymous Member

    Re: Paul Haggis has left the CoS

    It's also a weakness - let the cult members know that we support their human rights and ask them how often they have seen Scientology act against human rights. Get them thinking!
  40. Django Member

    Re: Paul Haggis has left the CoS

    Bumping this...

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