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peephole.tv threatens to sue AnonTube.com

Discussion in 'Youtube and Vimeo Problems' started by moose, Oct 17, 2008.

  1. 0815 Member

    Re: peephole.tv threatens to sue AnonTube.com

    You actually improved his ugly face so back to the basics.
  2. Legion Member

    Re: peephole.tv threatens to sue AnonTube.com

    Well said my good sir.
  3. 0815 Member

    Re: peephole.tv threatens to sue AnonTube.com

    I actually looked at Ollie's picture on ED and see what I found in the Metadata:

    This file contains additional information, probably added from the digital camera or scanner used to create or digitize it. If the file has been modified from its original state, some details may not fully reflect the modified image.

    Camera manufacturer HTC
    Camera model TITA100
    Horizontal resolution 72 dpi
    Vertical resolution 72 dpi
    File change date and time 22:30, 20 July 2008
    Author Dr. Oliver Schaper
    Exif version 2.1
    Date and time of data generation 22:30, 20 July 2008
    Flash 0
    Color space 65535
    Hide extended details
  4. moose Member

    Re: peephole.tv threatens to sue AnonTube.com

    good find.

    He is the owner of that picture. Perhaps it shouldn't be on ED without his permission.
    However, there may be some exception when the article on ED can be explained as news or parody:
    "The "fair use" exemption to (U.S.) copyright law was created to allow things such as commentary, parody, news reporting, research and education about copyrighted works without the permission of the author."

    If ED is a parody or not may be up to discussion.
    However, the videos that used manipulated version of a part of that image is clearly a parody.

  5. R2D2 Member

    Re: peephole.tv threatens to sue AnonTube.com

    weird i have the same pic with the same data,
    except the authors line is blank...
    edit:cocks etc.
  6. moose Member

    Re: peephole.tv threatens to sue AnonTube.com

    0815 is right. exif data states ollie is the author
  7. norma_scock Member

    Re: peephole.tv threatens to sue AnonTube.com

    You should still be covered by law seeing as it's comment/criticism.

    You're not profiting from his image, and you're not impacting on the value of the image.

    In the UK we'd laugh at someone trying to pull a stunt like this.
  8. 0815 Member

    Re: peephole.tv threatens to sue AnonTube.com

    But he can still go for the defamation and use the DMCA to get our addresses and from what I have been told, the UKfags are hardcore on defamation cases.
  9. CrazyDelaney Member

    Re: peephole.tv threatens to sue AnonTube.com

    I doubt he'd be going to the RPF considering the fact that he is not Sea Org. He has way too much money to be Sea Org.
  10. basil Member

    Re: peephole.tv threatens to sue AnonTube.com

    I'd have thought this most definitely was news... "Scientology porn peddlar tries to suppress free speech online"
  11. moose Member

    Re: peephole.tv threatens to sue AnonTube.com

    that sounds a lot easier than it actually is.
    The DMCA claim could be used to pressure the ISP to give personal information, but even if they are willing to give that information, they arent allowed to do so unless it has been approved by a judge (because of privacy issues).

    Defamation is a totally different matter. If he doesn't want that his image is used in some way, then first thing he should do is ask the site owner to remove the content. Since ED is a wiki, he could easily remove it himself. For the images that are still hosted on youtube: he send a DMCA claim to take the video down, AFAIK he didn't send a letter to Youtube to remove the thumbnails as well. Sending a DMCA claim to attack an 'attempt to defame' is just not the legal way. ( IANAL, btw )
  12. moose Member

  13. basil Member

    Re: peephole.tv threatens to sue AnonTube.com

    Walk round the block and get some fresh air. You'll soon be better.
  14. 0815 Member

    Re: peephole.tv threatens to sue AnonTube.com

    I don't think that the image is the key in this and his defamation claim is based on other issues because I remember QAnon's comment about the CP allegations made by Shadow. He can also claim defamation of character if he is linked to crimes without evidence. We need to finally find the dox on this guy and nail him!
  15. moose Member

    Re: peephole.tv threatens to sue AnonTube.com

    I have missed that one. I guess that has already been removed then.

    But if that is the issue, then he should not randomly attack other people with other claims.

    btw, are we sure that he or his companies had any part in the massive takedown of youtube vids? I personally havent seen the reason for removal on youtube when that happened, but someone must have seen that.
    I asked Olli (by mail) if he had anything to do with that, just to clear up that situation. He refused to answer. (That doesn't proof anything, but it won't look good in court if it turns out that he did nothing to deny it or comment on the issue, even when explicitly asked.)
  16. 0815 Member

    Re: peephole.tv threatens to sue AnonTube.com

    Not sure but you might want to ask him about it again. We have the problem that Ollie fits the MO we have been able to blame but we have no solid evidence that Ollie was even responsible (so please keep digging!). This could be a boomerang and hit us. I guess that is why he would go after us in the first place?
  17. QAnon Member

    Re: peephole.tv threatens to sue AnonTube.com

    Ollie denied to me that he was involved in the mass takedown. He also told me that OSA wasn't involved, because they called him in to ask him if he was involved. He said he believed it was the work of /b/ and/or /i/. I told him that I didn't believe that /b/ or /i/ did it, because doing that on YouTube isn't their style, not to mention it would be a definite case of pissing in their soup. That doesn't eliminate rogue elements of /b/ or /i/ doing it, like the group in /i/ that SODDed Enturb, of course, but I have to admit that if it wasn't Ollie or OSA, that's a possibility.

    The fact is that we have no proof who did the Big Takedown. We can speculate all we want, but we can make strong assumptions.

    Now, as to what's happening with the picture: the picture is the foot in the door needed for DMCA claims, since he holds the copyright to it (as the EXIF data is showing with his ownership). He might have let this pass if Shadow hadn't made the CP implication. That's what really set him off, and he used his DMCA claim as a weapon. Like 0815 is saying, if we do videos like this, we have to be careful to include only things that can be objectively proven to be true. Bringing up his connection to PeepholeTV and porn is valid, because there are documents available to prove that. But to take that connection one step further and claim CP is going into defamation territory. If Shadow had phrased that allegation differently and said Ollie was a distributor of CP, he could have had Shadow on libel charges in the US. In the UK, he could still have Shadow on libel charges due to looser libel laws over there.

    tl;dr: do vids, but be careful of the content. Don't even use the drawings if you based them off the photo, because Ollie could claim derivative work and still get us on DMCA charges. Be certain that we're in the clear copyright-wise and charge-wise.
  18. Daywatch Member

    Re: peephole.tv threatens to sue AnonTube.com

    When in doubt blame and punish the Scifags...
    how is that for a rule of thumb?
  19. The Shadow Member

    Re: peephole.tv threatens to sue AnonTube.com

    I never said he was involved with CP, I said he MIGHT be. But hey, let's see him take legal action with none of my personal details available to him.

    Plus, all vids with the CP hint are gone. Unless he screengrabbed it (which I doubt, he's too stupid), no evidence.

    The ARC takedown was OSA. What, you're taking Ollie's word that it wasn't and they called him to ask if it was him? Pfff, you may as well go join Scientology....GULLIBLE.

    OSA did it; whether Ollie had a hand in it remains to be seen.
  20. Anonynamefag Member

    Re: peephole.tv threatens to sue AnonTube.com

    I have to agree with Shadow on the grounds that it HAD to have been OSA.
    Scilons use copyrights like they were pez dispensers. Same MO, same group. Also, when would /b/ or /i/ use DMCA's? I don't care HOW crazy they are, it'd be like a black, homosexual Jew dressing in Nazi attire - it's not their style.

    Furthermore, Q, come on. This is Ollie we're talking about. Don't tell me you actually believe that fucker.
  21. 0815 Member

    Re: peephole.tv threatens to sue AnonTube.com

    Shadow: You should seek for evidence first, think and later attack. I think QAnon should keep communicating with Ollie in order to find out more about him. Gather information first and we can still strike later.
  22. Esper Member

    Re: peephole.tv threatens to sue AnonTube.com

    May seem off-topic, but can we have his e-mail address without there being any harm to your potential (nonexistent, never-happening) "case"? I swear I will "not" use it for any potentially "bad" things; I just want to be his penpal. You know.

    I'm really fucking bored.
  23. 0815 Member

    Re: peephole.tv threatens to sue AnonTube.com


    Don't have his email but you might find information on him.

    Project Chanology/Oliver Schaper - 8 Ball Wiki
  24. me57 Member

    Re: peephole.tv threatens to sue AnonTube.com

    tell ollie he needs to clean up his act
  25. 0815 Member

    Re: peephole.tv threatens to sue AnonTube.com

    ^^^THIS
  26. Anonynamefag Member

    Re: peephole.tv threatens to sue AnonTube.com

    Anyone try Sec Checking him for his pronz sites?
  27. 0815 Member

    Re: peephole.tv threatens to sue AnonTube.com

    Done but no results. (that we know off). He continues to be a major pain in the ass.

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