petition government

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by flintridge, Jan 29, 2013.

  1. flintridge Member

    Let's call their bluff. Let's make them honor our rights as American citizens. Being an ignorant peasant I have few options to expose government corruption other than petitions. By law they must acknowledge. I have the following three pending but need 150 electronic signatures for them to be acknowledged:
    Primary ways to curb corruption in our government through petition: 1) outlaw all corporate campaign contributions; 2) force random urinalyses of all government, supreme court justices, local judges and police officers; 3) no bill shall pass which includes any concept not specifically related to said bill or title of said bill (i.e. "Transportation Bill" which included text relating to birth control for women)--and usually these incongruencies relate to "pork," or funds going somewhere that has nothing to do with said bill whose title usually camouflages the true purpose of the bill.
    Will gladly post links to these petitions at the white house dot gov if there is an interest.
    BTW--love your work anonymous!
  2. Anonymous Member

    I'm not.

    But not actually do anything.
  3. Anonymous Member

    As long as you accept random testing yourself?
  4. flintridge Member

    I've been randomly tested since 1998 and so have many Americans. They push it down our throats and it should be repaid to them.
    If the government were to receive enough signatures on a petition they would be in the spotlight to acknowledge it. At the very least they could be voted out of office by ignoring documented will of the people.
  5. Anonymous Member

    So the proper remedy to bad behavior is...more bad behavior?
    hmm......might want to rethink that.
    How about we get rid of the drug war? That'd be a good first start
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  6. Paroxetine Samurai Moderator

    Here is the problem:

    First: Petitions aren't as powerful as you think. Oh, it may get enough to do something, but the governing body can alter and/or dismiss it.

    Second: The bill would have to either go to a public vote (which may or may not pass), or it would have to be voted on by the representatives (which won't pass because nobody would be insane enough to cut their own support lines).

    Either way: The deck is stacked against you from the very beginning.

    Finally: Electronic petitions aren't the most respected or recognized form of petitioning, yet. They are afraid of known incidents dealing with false people filling out fake entries.

    I agree with the Anon above. Best way to solve any problem is by not sinking to the level of the problem maker.
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  7. A.O.T.F Member

    therein lies the rub

    Shall I let George Carlin explain it for you

    Forget the politicians. They are irrelevant. The politicians are put there to give you the idea that you have freedom of choice. You don’t. You have no choice! You have OWNERS! They OWN YOU. They own everything. They own all the important land. They own and control the corporations. They’ve long since bought—and paid for—the Senate, the Congress, the state houses, the city halls, they got the judges in their back pockets and they own all the big media companies, so they control just about all of the news and information you get to hear. They got you by the balls.

    They spend billions of dollars every year lobbying, lobbying, to get what they want. Well, we know what they want. They want more for themselves and less for everybody else, but I’ll tell you what they don’t want:
    They don’t want a population of citizens capable of critical thinking. They don’t want well-informed, well-educated people capable of critical thinking. They’re not interested in that. That doesn’t help them. That’s against their interests.

    That’s right. They don’t want people who are smart enough to sit around a kitchen table and think about how badly they’re getting fucked by a system that threw them overboard 30 fucking years ago. They don’t want that!

    You know what they want? They want obedient workers. Obedient workers, people who are just smart enough to run the machines and do the paperwork. And just dumb enough to passively accept all these increasingly shitty jobs with the lower pay, the longer hours, the reduced benefits, the end of overtime and vanishing pension that disappears the minute you go to collect it, and now they’re coming for your Social Security money. They want your retirement money.

    They want it back so they can give it to their criminal friends on Wall Street—and you know something? They’ll get it. They’ll get it all from you sooner or later ‘cause they own this fucking place! It’s a big club, and you ain’t in it! You, and I, are not in the big club.
    By the way, it’s the same big club they use to beat you over the head with all day long when they tell you what to believe. All day long beating you over the head with their media telling you what to believe, what to think and what to buy. The table has tilted, folks. The game is rigged and nobody seems to notice. Nobody seems to care! Good honest hard-working people; white collar, blue collar it doesn’t matter what color shirt you have on. Good honest hard-working people continue—these are people of modest means—continue to elect these rich cock suckers who don’t give a fuck about you….they don’t give a fuck about you… they don’t give a FUCK about you.

    They don’t care about you at all… at all… AT ALL. And nobody seems to notice. Nobody seems to care. That’s what the owners count on. The fact that Americans will probably remain willfully ignorant of the big red, white and blue dick that’s being jammed up their assholes everyday, because the owners of this country know the truth.
    It’s called the American Dream—because you have to be asleep to believe it.
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  8. Anonymous Member

    It's not some big conspiracy played out by some dark elite who want to keep the "people" down! Get a grip! It's a dog eat dog world, all the so called ones in control and those who have power are all fucking each other over! It's just the fall out goes down the chain to the Joe blogs of the world. It's not a club, society or whatever you want to call it, it's just dickheads, like the ones we all have to deal with everyday, who have manoeuvred themselves into important positions in society. That's all it is, stop trying to turn it into a Hollywood blockbuster.
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  9. A.O.T.F Member

    That was never the intention.Hollywood is quite adept at lying,and doesn't need any help or encouragement from me.
  10. Anonymous Member


    Your head

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