Pierre Ethier tries to shutdown ESMB

Discussion in 'Leaks & Legal' started by Anonymous, Jul 28, 2011.

  1. Anonymous Member

  2. Anonymous Member

    Anonymous gives a fuck WHAT the moonbat thinks.

    Same for you, OSA troll.
  3. Anonymous Member

    Anonymous: delivering high-quality butthurt, one arse at a time.
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  4. Anonymous Member

    Recruiters working to propagate and champion LRH bullshit must be sniffed out and exposed wherever and whenever possible. That is all.
  5. Anonymous Member

    I thmell puthy
  6. Anonymous Member


    lol, yes we get it, your bigots. You hate all Scientology. You think all Scientology is the same. There is not room for a grey area or variations in religion. And anyone who disagrees with you is OSA. We get it. Now go back out there and spread your version of the truth while the smart people talk to Terril, bigot.
  7. Herro Member

    Yeah, the last thing we want is people freely exchanging information.
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  8. Anonymous Member

    Amen to sarcasm.
  9. The Heretic Member

    It bears repeating that on this forum it's hard to tell whether someone's being sarcastic or just plainly retarded.
  10. Anonymous Member

    Now you "have no idea."

    Your story keeps changing.

    And what's with the "blame it on the wife" deal?

    Is that a Scientology tradition?

    Evil and creepy.
  11. Anonymous Member

    You're trollllllllllllllllllin right? The stilted grammar really does scream scientologist.

    Well played!
  12. Anonymous Member

    That's pretty much the standard line, "We Scientologists are not like those Scientologists over there, who just a) were arrested b) shot themselves in the foot (feet), made fools of themselves, said something stupid in front of a wog, etc., etc., and since you can't tell, or don't care to notice, that those Scientologists are not properly applying Scientology and I (we) are properly applying Scientology, then you're a bigot, or whatever.

    It's quite nuts.
  13. Anonymous Member

    Are you always this stupid or are you making a special effort today?
  14. Anonymous Member

    Who's "we"? Playing with yourself again?

    Yes, ALL SCIENTOLOGY IS THE SAME. It's fucking snake-oil quackery.

    Seriously, go fuck your mother.
  15. Anonymous Member

    I say more or less everyone is still butt-hurt about how Herro first appeared on this site and couldn't get him to leave cause more than half of you faggots are drama-eating, troll-feeding, pussies back then, and most still are now. The hilarity is that you now cannot tell the difference between trolling and reasonable counterarguments, which shows not only your still the bitches of trolls, but also fail in reason. Either that or you just don't like being wrong so you reply with more retarded rhetoric like OSA does in the comments on news paper articles. If you can't tell the difference anymore, you still loose.
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  16. Anonymous Member


    Herro's trolled so much, that it is often not possible to tell when he is trying to seriously engage in debate.

    Just liked the boy who cried wolf.

    That's makes some of us OSA?

    Read the third line I wrote, just above your post. Go do that.
  17. The Heretic Member

    But grey areas make the world so complicated. :/
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  18. xenubarb Member

    Generalize much? Your post is elronic.
  19. Trotter Moderator

    So, is there anything left to say about Pierre Either and ESMB?
  20. Anonymous Member

  21. Anonymous Member

    Lol, Pierre. You so fat.
  22. Anonymous Member

    Well, there's always that.
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  23. Glad you asked.

    After reading >9000 posts on ESMB, what I would like to know is -

    Who really sent the blackmail email???

    Since Ekaterina and Pierre are apparently no longer together (see ESMB thread, page 9000), how come he instructed her to withdraw the DMCA takedown request?

    And if he could do that, couldn't he have also instructed her to write the original blackmail email???

    Or did Pierre write it himself???

    And if he did, is he just bullshitting about instructing his estranged missus in the first place ???

    And why did they separate, anyway???

    What role (if any) did Mr Creosote play???

    Has Terril been an innocent dupe, or is he the eminence grise behind it all ???

    Did Aida fax or scan Ian's worksheets, and to whom???

    Or, did she simply pocket the cash ???

    It seems the whole future of the Freezone may depend on getting answers to these questions.

    PS. Does Glenn Mulcaire have the goods on the Ethiers ???

    too dramatic??? (I hear Mranda's siren call even as I type.)
  24. grebe Member

    I'm pretty sure this is a troll cuz of the "while the smart people talk to Terril" bit, but anyway...

    Scientology in a nutshell:

    Is there some other version of "Scientology" I might have missed?
  25. Anonymous Member

    Ok, you can if you want but that's a fool's choice as every word you read of Terril's moonbattery takes away an IQ point of yours in the process! His thought processes cause verbal lobotomy in normal people who try to discuss things with him who think he's using actual reason.
  26. slobeck Member

    srry, but how, exactly, does one drive a car while wielding samurai swords?
  27. pooks Member

    I've kinda sorta followed the Pierre Either story. When I read his first affidavit, exposing cult craziness, I thought it was a good thing. But then, I was still in cultist mode at that time.

    Imo, Pierre is just another guru wannabe like Hubbard, like Marty, and yes folks, just to stir up some shit, like Lerma.

    Pierre is a super obese Scientology Stupid Cult Moron. He married a woman from Bulgaria through some kind of "purchase a woman from an Eastern European Country That is Just as Retarded as You" program.

    Think about it. What kind of guy marries a "bride for sale" type chick.

    Katerina is a kook of the first order. She's posted all kinds of crazy shit on ars and she makes Barbara Schwartz, a long time winner of the usenet "Kook of the month award", look like a sane woman.

    Pierre Either and his wife are a couple of crazy fucked up Scios of the worst kind. Just google them and read their screeds and you can figure this out pretty quickly.
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  28. Anonymous Member

    L. Hubbard Ron: Delivering high-quality butthurt, one Anonym-arse at a time.
  29. Krautfag Member

    oh gawd, here we go -.-
  30. Anonymous Member

    Ummm... 35jig4n.jpg
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  31. 運作中的希坦一至八級(Operating Thetan I - VIII)的完全經文,可以在維基泄密(找到,但網址暫時在改建中。在此之前 ,詳細的摘要在菲什曼的誓章中(The Fishman Affidavit),也是法庭紀錄,是山達基首席律師確認是真正的。

    菲什曼的誓章後來被法庭封鎖了,但荷蘭作家 Karin Spaink 貼在她的網址,經過多年官司,荷蘭法庭判她勝訴。美國法庭判定這些經文不算是商業秘密,但受到版權保護,所 以公平引用的摘要是絕對合法的。

    山達基教會警告,若不跟從正當步驟讀經文,會染肺炎而死。但這樣死的從沒有聽聞,本人可以作活 生生的例證。

    但山達基人偷看經文是重罪,你們是過不了測謊機的(E-meter),看過了必然斷送了你們的自由之路。事實上,偷看過了而不爆的(blow=離教),教會不會放 過你這個金蛋。

    這個摘要,是根據菲什曼誓章,Stacy Brooks 的透視,和 Maria Pia Gardini 誓章,加上「Mrs Smith」的翻譯,但非山達基人看到了全文也完全不知道是什麼回事,沒頭沒腦的,其他人的解說也不完整, 因為有些概念很難簡短形容,山達基詞彙不可以用普通詞彙解釋,而且有些人完成了某OT級後,也不知道它是什 麼,教會說通過了便通過了。

    這些經文可能有多個版本,教會也有新舊之分。經文是教會最高機密,是不能離開課室的,個人的回憶不盡相同。 可以帶走的資料也不能給任何人看到。所以外人不可以確認那是正確版本。菲什曼的版本是最早公開的,與後期的 不甚相同,他也不是深資山達基人,只是從別人手中得到經文,但只有他的版本被山達基律師確認。


    教會說第一步是要以新鮮的觀點看這個物質宇宙和其它眾生。菲什曼說有三個版本,最新的只有一個「看人」的指 令,執行直到有認知(cognition)。瑪麗亞說是那真是胡扯蛋,就是你自己一個人走來走去,去「看到 」一些東西。她走到咖啡店磨時光,回去說有覺新(wins)便完成了。


    教會說這級解鎖整個時間軌跡(億兆年的宇宙歷史)中偏差錯亂的因素,這些因素使希坦(精神個體)失去天生的 自由。

    偏差錯亂是因為你的希坦在億兆年的宇宙歷史中曾經被「強制性植入」(implants)。你會拿到一張列出 長長的植入表單,包括電擊植入、言語植入等等。你必須深入時間軌跡,一個個把這些植入處理掉。這是在獨自聽 析中完成,聽析中你必須大聲的跟自己講話。 開始聽析時,你必須在時間軌跡上想到光點的出現,然後從那光點去找植入事件,儀表(E-meter)上的讀數確認事件的發生,然後解讀儀表上的指針動作, 來來回回的以「兩分法」(或分裂 dichotomies)處理植入事件, 磨掉(run)它們。

    OTIII 火之牆

    教會說這一級獨自聽析藏著宇宙的秘密,你面對並剷除一直困擾著這個宇宙千萬年的人類心理障礙,一旦完成,被 「時間軌跡壓倒」纏住了的你,可以解放出來。開始這級之前,要簽棄權書,大意是可能發生到你的身體或精神上 的任何事件,山達基組織、其分支機構和成員,一切不負責。

    瑪麗亞是科幻小說迷,早已唸過了,內容跟一本羅恩賀伯特的科幻小說很相似,差點兒拍成好萊塢電影。「銀河系 大魔頭」基努(Xenu),在七億五千萬年前為了解決人口過剩問題,把大量外星人捕捉,掉入地球的火山中, 用原子彈炸得魂魄四散,然後把我們看到的所為現實,花幾星期時間植入這些東西的腦子,之後這些支離破碎的破 希坦(Body Thetan,簡稱 BT)便吸附在人類的肉身上面。誰人若是覺察到「現實」只是灌輸,是會觸發自動毀滅程式,只有羅恩賀伯特發 明的技術,可以打破了這個程式。

    聽析時,你必須跟你身上的破希坦講話,你想著不同的地方,儀表的指針讀數會告訴你破希坦是否在那兒,然後要 它們離開你的身體,再找不到破希坦便通過這級。



    這級要處理「破希坦團塊」( Body Thetan Clusters)。你現在要處理整個時間軌跡裡的藥物,還有你身上破希坦所服的藥物,這些破希坦在你做完 OTIII之後還沒走光,因為他們有嗑過藥。



    原來一切也是破希坦,你的思維、愛、腳趾、鞋、月亮。這些破希坦跟團塊是沉睡型的,你必須把它們喚醒,然後 賦予它們身分地位,這樣它們就會走開了。

    OTV 是這樣做的,聽析員的指令:「觀看你的身體(不是用肉眼),找出破團塊。」當聽析員在電儀表上讀到指數時他 又問:「在哪裡?」你回答:「在膝蓋上。」然後,你必須用心電感應式的交流與那隻破希坦溝通,無聲問它說: 「你是什麼東西?」破希坦可能回答你說:「香蕉。」於是你告訴聽析員「香蕉」。

    有時候答案可能是「一張紙」之類的其他答案,反正你想到什麼就說什麼。聽析員得到答案後又說:「好,告訴它 『你就是香蕉。』」也就是說,香蕉就是它的身分。於是你告訴破希坦它是一根香蕉,在這時它應該就會走開了, 或是它想繼續留在那裡。 如果它在你問「你是什麼東西?」時沒有離開的話,你就問「你是誰?」然後你向破希坦收集了一大串名字:那破 倫,凱薩大帝,約翰屈伏塔……你一一告訴聽析員,他告訴你哪個名字有讀數,那就是破希坦的身分,得到示意後 的破希坦就會離開,打走所有破希坦便完成OTV。



    這一級又是破希坦跟破團塊!而且跟OTV的指令一樣,就是那兩項「你是什麼」還有「你是誰」,但是自己親自 來做聽析的。



    這個等級的正果(the end phenomenon) 是: 各式各樣的破希坦都不存在,沒有昏睡型的、沒有嗑藥的……什麼都沒有,其中一項是壓抑類型的破希坦(sup pressive BTs) 。

    打走破希坦的方法跟OTV和VI是一樣的,不相同的只是一手握雙鑵,破希坦走了儀表指針會浮的。你身體上的 破希坦若是全走了,你的身體在你看來是半透明的。

    有時候,你會遇到破希坦從你身上飄到大門旁邊,你必須想像出一把剪刀,剪掉他與你身體之間的連線。有時候, 你會有層層重疊的破希坦,所以呢,你必須想像出一雙手來把他們揮掉。

    這時你知道,整個宇宙也是破希坦,山達基目的是使整個宇宙消失,一個人怎樣努力也打不走所有破希坦,所以要 地球所有人幫忙。因此阻礙山達基 的人必然要用任何手段消除,因為整個宇宙受到威脅,全地球,所有人億萬年的命運,決定於你現時在這兒做什麼 。因此為甚麼羅恩賀伯特建立了監護人辦事處,把所有政府及敵對的社會轉為完全遵守山達基的規則 。

    很多人獨自在房間內打破希坦,每日數小時,有十五年之久。這些人被剝奪了所有自己的感覺, 他們已經失去了責任感—事實上,失去所有與自己情緒的接觸,自己的想法,連自己的希望和願望。它們已成為沉 溺於不負責任,生活於幻想世界的人。他們真正相 信一個怪誕的未來,其最終目標是山達基世界,這個世界上,每個不同意山達基的人將會靜靜地、沒有悲傷地被除 去。

    OTVIII 真相大白


    OTVIII有數個版本,菲什曼的被稱為「耶穌愛好男孩和男生」版,山達基律師初時指出這文件是侵權,即是 真正的,但後來改口說這是假的。

    其它的版本與瑪麗亞口述的類似,裡面指出:「你編做了(mocked up)你自己的反應式心靈,你編做了你自己的破希坦,你編做了你自己的前生。」裡面包括羅恩賀伯特的斷言( affirmation):「現在知道過去的我不是我,有興趣找尋真的我是誰。」

    基本上,OTVIII 是要你照著 「人類歷史 」(History of Man)這本書裡的題目做聽析,一直從進化軌跡回到蛤蜊(clams)時代,因為人類是由蛤蜊進化成的。你 必須要在時間軌跡裡一路做,回到蛤蜊時代為止,斷定過失行為(overt),然後找出破希坦。

    你要用心電感應方式與破希坦溝通,找出它的過失、寫下來、然後用電儀表問破希坦:「這是你做的嗎?」「這是 我做的嗎?」如果有讀到指數,你就示意那是誰的過失,使指針浮動,就這樣繼續做……結果你會幫時間軌跡裡的 所有破希坦們清掉所有的過失。這就是所謂的真相大白。
  32. Anonymous Member

    Carefully, so you don't chop off your legs.
  33. Anonymous Member

    How fat is he?
  34. The Heretic Member

    Hey, that sounds almost as whacky as Christianity.
  35. Anonymous Member

    Maybe they're retarcastic?
  36. pooks Member

    He's so fat he's been appointed the French Ambassador to KFC.
  37. Anonymous Member

    Who let the chink in here?
  38. Anon PTS Member

    Is that you, L Ron???
  39. Smurf Member

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  40. Anonymous Member

    Cat looks stoned LOL
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