Piers Springthorpe, CHAIRMAN of Merrehill Ltd, Manchester Scientologist

Re: Piers Springthorpe, CHAIRMAN of Merrehill Ltd, Manchester Scientologist

Yvonne, you have a face like a horse.

Re: Piers Springthorpe, CHAIRMAN of Merrehill Ltd, Manchester Scientologist

Hi Lesley, you do know me Tony Leigh and my partner Sue Thurston and our daughter Becky Thurston and her partner David Fryer.

Your comment quote, Piers kept his religion where it belonged, at the org, not in our lifes or any person who he met outside of scientology. I just hope that Yvonne never comes across this site and reads some of the cruel personal comments you people have written about them both.

Well you are wrong.
1) Yvonne took my sister Carol Leigh to Manchester's CULT of Scientology many years ago as she had family problems. My sister was not made aware that the people were scientologists, they made her do a personality test 200 questions.
She quickly came to her senses and wanted out, Yvonne Springthorpe was trying to recruit my sister. Fact.

2) Pierce recruited David Fryer into the CULT of Scientology, Fact, David has this on his own Face book account.

3) David Fryer recruited our daughter into the Cult and our daughter like all members in time get BRAINWASHED. FACT.

If you take some time and watch the video's Sue and I have made you will see the truth and our story. We never wished this on piers or Yvonne as they are victims of the CULT.
We have protested outside the COS for 18 Months and we will never stop our fight to get our daughter and her future husband out of the cult.

Scientology has done everything in there power to break our FAMILY but we are stronger than them as we love our daughter. They are a business and only want there MONEY, FACT.
They want our daughter to DISCONNECT from Sue and I, but Becky wont as she loves us.
The cult will not tell Becky to disconnect to her face, but they play mind games with David and Becky so they will come to there own conclusion that if they want Scientology then its got to be DISCONNECTION.
Our situation is worse than a death as we cant grieve.

We have had to take Becky out of our will as there is no way we will fund this CULT. Becky is aware of this.

Davids parents have two farms that have been bombarded with the WISE business front of Scientology, thats all they are interested in MONEY, just like the Springthorpe estate. They protest against the CULT.

If you ever wish to talk more, then i will do gladly.
We live in Knutsford as you are aware.
I agree with you that there has been one or two bad comments but as comments in relation to the COS they are all true.

Take care Tony Leigh.
PS i take it you wont be going to help fund the cos, at the Springthorpe estate this August.

Re: Piers Springthorpe, CHAIRMAN of Merrehill Ltd, Manchester Scientologist

Re Piers death,

If any one wishes to contact Manchester reg office and ask for a copy of Piers death certificate, they will inform you that there is no death certificate.
You will be then told to contact the coroners office, they will then send you an email stating that there is to be an inquest into Piers death in 4 to 6 Months.

Re: Piers Springthorpe, CHAIRMAN of Merrehill Ltd, Manchester Scientologist

Re Piers death,

If any one wishes to contact Manchester reg office and ask for a copy of Piers death certificate, they will inform you that there is no death certificate.
You will be then told to contact the coroners office, they will then send you an email stating that there is to be an inquest into Piers death in 4 to 6 Months.

Re: Piers Springthorpe, CHAIRMAN of Merrehill Ltd, Manchester Scientologist

The plot thickens.

Maybe someone's earlier comments that Yvonne had bumped poor Piers off was closer to the truth than anticipated......

Re: Piers Springthorpe, CHAIRMAN of Merrehill Ltd, Manchester Scientologist

I thought he had already been buried?

Like his arteries seemingly did?

Re: Piers Springthorpe, CHAIRMAN of Merrehill Ltd, Manchester Scientologist

Jett Travolta / Carradine / Springthorpe

Notice a trend here?

Re: Piers Springthorpe, CHAIRMAN of Merrehill Ltd, Manchester Scientologist

The Springthorpes give money to a cult that cannot survive financially without enslaving people in a hopeless situation that combines brainwashing, mental and physical abuse, and utter ruination. Go to Ex-Scientology Kids and educate yourself about what they do to their own children. They don't care about anyone from the cradle to the grave.

Don't come here telling us that Piers Springthorpe is some amazing, wonderful man because we aren't buying it. Piers had the money and the luxury of being able to find out what Scientology was all about. He either chose not to investigate $cientology further or he disregarded it all for his own greed and social standing within the cult.

$cientology does nothing in the way of charitable works. Everything they do brings money or slaves back to them.

If I were you I would be educating myself further about what $cientology is all about and re-thinking this whole godmother thing with Yvonne Springthorpe.

Re: Piers Springthorpe, CHAIRMAN of Merrehill Ltd, Manchester Scientologist

Well said, Tony. (I will rejoice with you and Sue when Becky is finally out!)

Dear "Lesley": I get no joy in the poor man's death, but any comments that directly link him to Scientology proselytizing and support are obviously both accurate and fair. Pretending he and Yvonne did not try to recruit people and raise / donate money to benefit the cult is foolish, and unconvincing.

I'll be outraged on both Piers' and Piers' friends' and family's behalf if it turns out he relied solely on LRH quackery for a serious medical condition and if his (hypothetical) untreated medical condition caused his death at such a young age. (I hope YOU do not have a medical issue that you are ignoring. It's unwise to rely on ineffective, useless "LRH Tech" if you have a health concern.)

In other words, saying "he was my loved one, and your posts hurt my feelings" is kosher; saying "he was my loved one and you are TOTALLY lying about his involvement with the cult" (when there is PROOF he was in it up to his neck) is, clearly, not. That your first instinct would be to come here to swear he was not involved with the cult speaks volumes. Why deny it? Why so ashamed? Wasn't he a good little Scientologist?

Why aren't you comforting your dear friends / loved ones who are bereft due to Piers' death, instead of scrambling to deny he was in the cult on a forum where NO ONE will be convinced by your easily disproven falsehoods? Go call or visit your friend, give her a hug, and be there for her. That is what NORMAL PEOPLE do. Don't waste your time rushing to a website to whine / lie while denying what is obviously and provably true.

Now, shoo. Go act like a truly ethical, kind person and attend to your hurting friend and stop wasting your--and our--time.

PROTIP: Some people like to take some home cooking, some potted plants or flowers, a nice Sympathy card, and a sincere offer to be there for the grieving friend with them when a loved one dies. You could start there. If you're a really good friend, help her with her laundry or dishes, give her hugs, and just listen while she cries. Good friends don't waste their time posting nonsense to critics' forums. Hope this helps.

Re: Piers Springthorpe, CHAIRMAN of Merrehill Ltd, Manchester Scientologist

The word on the street is that Piers Springthorpe had a drug habit and suffered heart failure after indulging.

The delay on the inquest is due to police inquiries into a possible batch of contaminated street drugs. And if this isn't the case, then Piers either forgot how to count or someone helped him.

Re: Piers Springthorpe, CHAIRMAN of Merrehill Ltd, Manchester Scientologist

An overdose makes a lot more sense. Thought he was too young (and wealthy) to die.

Surely he went to annual health screenings and had BUPA etc?

Re: Piers Springthorpe, CHAIRMAN of Merrehill Ltd, Manchester Scientologist

Wouldn't that be against standard tech though?

Given that Scientologists believe smoking is the best cure against cancer, and you can get rid of radiation by washing it off with water, I don't put a great deal of credibility in any scifag medical claims - and that's before you look at the FDA sticker on the bottom of an e-meter.

I seem to recall he was involved in some homeopathic college that scientology set up?

Re: Piers Springthorpe, CHAIRMAN of Merrehill Ltd, Manchester Scientologist

Lesley, you sound hot. PM me with your personal information. I would love to wine and dine you girl.

Re: Piers Springthorpe, CHAIRMAN of Merrehill Ltd, Manchester Scientologist

But is "Lesley" real?

The only way to prove it is the posting of tittypix....

Re: Piers Springthorpe, CHAIRMAN of Merrehill Ltd, Manchester Scientologist

Jett Travolta / Carradine / Springthorpe / Jackson

Re: Piers Springthorpe, CHAIRMAN of Merrehill Ltd, Manchester Scientologist

I never said he was not involved with scientology. I myself think that he fell victim to this religion /cult and so did Yvonne, He raised money to a cause he thought was a charity. I am very educated about scientology thank you and probably know more about it than you, however I chose not to be pulled into it. I also know that when the internet was first around, everyone was issued a disk from their different orgs that blocked out any negative sites about scientology, Piers joined way before there was more information about scientology and I am sure he got so far in that he decided not to read negative things as he himself thought it possitive. Anyone who knows me, Tony Leigh ect (if you remember me)will tell you I disagree with the cult/religion whatever but to personally insult is below the belt. Yes I am real. and yes I can tell you wholeheartedly I probably am on the SP list for opposing against it, however it did not ruin my friendship and I would have no intention of rethingthing the god mother stance . AS for washing dishes and giving hugs, grow up

Re: Piers Springthorpe, CHAIRMAN of Merrehill Ltd, Manchester Scientologist

I'm still waiting for you to PM me with your personal info. Are you hot or not?

Re: Piers Springthorpe, CHAIRMAN of Merrehill Ltd, Manchester Scientologist

Lesley-
How did you find this board?

Re: Piers Springthorpe, CHAIRMAN of Merrehill Ltd, Manchester Scientologist

Oh shiii.....

I just got a PM from Lesley with her phone number.

Is she for real, or is this someone's sock account?

I quite fancy the sound of "Lesley", and I would be sorely pissed off if this is a troll!

Re: Piers Springthorpe, CHAIRMAN of Merrehill Ltd, Manchester Scientologist

Godparents stand up in a real church and state they will be responsible for the child's spiritual welfare. I fail to see how you think people who were gullible enough to fall for Scientology to the extent this couple did would be suitable for the job.

Also, I have every sympathy for those who are bereaved. I wouldn't be involved with Chanology if I didn't have. Your good friends contributed their time and money to a cult which kills and tears families apart so, assuming you're not a troll, you can fuck off with your moralising.

Re: Piers Springthorpe, CHAIRMAN of Merrehill Ltd, Manchester Scientologist

He sponsored the cult.

He is complicit in its crimes.

He deliberately and knowingly funded the abuses that David Miscavige perpetrates at Gold Base.

He supported the abuse of children in the Cadet Org.

He can burn in hell with Al Crowley, Jack Parsons and L Ron Fucktard. Maybe Satan will assrape them all a Moonchild.

Re: Piers Springthorpe, CHAIRMAN of Merrehill Ltd, Manchester Scientologist

LOL WUT?

Surely you're not implying that Scientology kills?

Because nobody should suggest that Scientology kills

Suggesting that Scientology kills would be in exceptionally bad taste.

So nobody should suggest that Scientology kills

Re: Piers Springthorpe, CHAIRMAN of Merrehill Ltd, Manchester Scientologist

You need to add:

Fawcett & Jackson

to the list naow.

Re: Piers Springthorpe, CHAIRMAN of Merrehill Ltd, Manchester Scientologist

Can I haz [STRIKE]Yvonne's[/STRIKE] Lesley's phone number too?

ktnxm8

Re: Piers Springthorpe, CHAIRMAN of Merrehill Ltd, Manchester Scientologist

Like fuck you do.

Spoken to any exes recently?

Have you read the Wall Of Fire? Or HCO PL 18 October 1967, Issue IV? Or maybe The protocols for selling Dianetics at a Stress Test Table?

G B 2 Clearwater

Oh, wait... They don't want your clamfaggotry there, either.

Too bad.

Maybe you'll have better luck in Mansfield

Re: Piers Springthorpe, CHAIRMAN of Merrehill Ltd, Manchester Scientologist

Cancer killed Fawcett. Just like it's killed /b/

CoS has a lot to answer for, but we can't blame Charlie losing an angel on them

Re: Piers Springthorpe, CHAIRMAN of Merrehill Ltd, Manchester Scientologist

Gotta admire the size of Yvonne's breasts for having the guts to post here (even if she is using the pseudonym Lesley)

Re: Piers Springthorpe, CHAIRMAN of Merrehill Ltd, Manchester Scientologist

^ Your immaturity sickens me. Grow up!

Re: Piers Springthorpe, CHAIRMAN of Merrehill Ltd, Manchester Scientologist

I'd also like to know how Lesley found her way to wwp.

Does Lesley know that Scientology enslaves and abuses children? Does Lesley know that physical abuse is used on the men in Sea Org and sexual abuse is reserved for the women? Does Lesley know that the Sea Org has perfected a brainwashing technique that includes sleep deprivation, hard manual labor, and starvation? Does Lesley know that while she was being such good friends with Piers and Yvonne and periodically whining to them about the cult that this fucking horrible abuse was being suffered by someone in $cientology somewhere on the face of this earth. Every single day while Lesley lives her comfortable life there are people who are living a life of slavery in this cult.

Lesley would like for us to stop saying bad things about her friend Piers who is complicit in these crimes for forking over money to this cult and for turning away when he was one rich greedy fuck who could have found out the real truth.

They hurt and enslave children. They ruin people. They kill people. Fuck anyone who gives them money.

Re: Piers Springthorpe, CHAIRMAN of Merrehill Ltd, Manchester Scientologist

"Lesley" = Yvonne Springthorpe

Re: Piers Springthorpe, CHAIRMAN of Merrehill Ltd, Manchester Scientologist

and yet you made a couple who bankroll scientology godparents to your children???

you are full of shit whoever you are

Re: Piers Springthorpe, CHAIRMAN of Merrehill Ltd, Manchester Scientologist

I am NOT a scientologist, I have read all about Hubbard and Miscavage and the abuses that went on, his criminal record, his claims he was in the Navy, The money they have stolen from weak minded people.
All proven lies, I tried time and time again to talk to Piers as I am a non beleiver and as I said before am probably on a black list somewhere and some of the people I met from that Org in Manchester were weak willed and freaky but to no avail. I did not like these people and I made that very clear . I know how people get brainwashed, starting with a basic course, the purification run down to weaken you , ect ect. I am not protecting scientology nor on this site to shout out morals, you should read my posts more carefully. What I don't understand is why are you not attacking the bigger picture, I agree the church is evil but what good is your cause attacking the wife of a dead scientologist, and to be honest, I don't think Yvonne will follow this any longer, she half heartedly went into it in the first place with persuasion from Piers. Also to put the picture straight, both sets of their parents knew they were scientologists so where the idea they didn't know came from, I have no idea. You have to understand that people who are recruited are told a whole lot of lies, brainwashed and the actually believe the crap. when Piers joined, he had hit rock bottom and honestly beleived those people were going to make his life better. I am not one of those. Unfortunately Piers was. I wished he had stayed alive to complete OT11 and then I think he would have had a bit more of a reality check on the cult/religion. It scared the shit out of him and for some reason had been brainwashed into thinking he would die if it was discussed before he took the course. now then, you tell me how far along someone can be brainwashed to actually beleive that? Do you not think Catholics and most religions, cults have a brainwashing mechanism.

He was surrounded with other scientologists who put a huge amount of pressure on him, his so called friends writing crappy letters to the org about him about out ethics, knowledge reports, the whole rubbish as those people had nothing better to do with their time. I sued one of Piers companies, not because of Piers but because of the other idiots that suddenly turned up out of no-where trying to recruit people with-in my sales team and push the shit on me for religious discrimination.. If those people read this site, you know who you are and should be ashamed. If you read carefully about the information about the funeral, you will see that it says donations to a charity of choice. If the vultures at the org had anything to do with it, that would have been a donation to their church. Thank god it's not. I am hoping now that she will be protected from these people and can I add, that it was donations made by persuasion and pressure from the company to the org when they tried to come in and control as they saw a company they could prey on that was making a good amount of profit. The vultures bled him dry at one stage and he nearly lost everything. I thought he may have realised then but he didn't. They tried to get Piers to declare me an SP and he refused. Donations were also made away from the org to other charities which displeased certain people from Manchester as they felt all their money should go to them. Yvonne will be no doubt put under huge pressure now from these idiots to keep giving and giving, I would not be surprised if they tried to persuade her to give her house and land. When they nearly lost everything, Piers was treated like an outcast until he started making some money again. He was conned and he just couldn't see it. And for the poster who told me to fuck off, you don't know me and if you did, you would know my feelings on scientology. Every other Scientologist in Manchester that I saw knew how I felt when I had the displeasure of meeting them. One of them went to the extent of trying to get me sacked as I called Ron an ugly bastard to deliberately piss him off as I was sick of his waffle. I hope that person reads this site as he was certainly not normal and completely of the rails. Buggered off when the going got tough and then turned up again when the money started to come in again. I am on the same side and hate this group but it is the upper hiarachy that need attacking to stop it, not Yvonne. Slating her isn't going to make any difference to try and stop Co$ is it.

Re: Piers Springthorpe, CHAIRMAN of Merrehill Ltd, Manchester Scientologist

I pray peace for you, who ever you are. I pray that you are free.

Its is called freedom, because it is free...you do not have to pay for more sessions etc..or pay for more auditing

Re: Piers Springthorpe, CHAIRMAN of Merrehill Ltd, Manchester Scientologist

Yes I do know all of this, and as in the previous post, in my opinion he is one of those who had been brainwashed as were those who were recruited into the sea org. They also could have found out the real truth but the control CO$ have is unbeleivable He became a slavery of this cult as with those others you mention. He gave money as he thought it right in his mind, he was not a greedy fuck and I am not telling you to stop saying bad things, I am just saying that putting up silly pictures and making sick jokes isn't going to help you get anywhere stamping out the Co$. Why are these people still putting up with the abuse? why not get out? They can't. They have been dragged so far into it and brain washed they don't know anything else and are scared of what a normal life has to offer due to scientology putting the shits up them so much and then the harrassment that follows.

Re: Piers Springthorpe, CHAIRMAN of Merrehill Ltd, Manchester Scientologist

It sounds to me like you are in a position to really help those that are imprisoned by this cult. Just like everyone on this forum is as well.

God Bless
XOXO

Re: Piers Springthorpe, CHAIRMAN of Merrehill Ltd, Manchester Scientologist

Then if this is a 'wake up' that causes Yvonne to seriously question whether 'the tech works' and whether Scientology is actually all it's cracked up to be, then some good may come out of Piers' early demise.

You sound in a very good position to help her with that as well. If you truly are the good friend of her you say you are, then simply being there for her and a shoulder to cry on will be a massive contrast to what the Scientologists will be doing, persuading her to come in for sessions 'on the cans' to clear up whatever O/W it was that caused them to "pull in" Piers' death. Remember that Scientology believes that nothing is their fault, but anything that goes wrong is a direct result of something you have done to cause it.

Re: Piers Springthorpe, CHAIRMAN of Merrehill Ltd, Manchester Scientologist

I know what they will be doing, she will never be left alone now by them, telling her she needs courses auditing, being told he has just moved on into another body ect ect. I am also sure they will do their very best to get as much money as possible for these courses, probably try to persuade her to go to freewinds, Clearwater ...god knows. It worries me immensly. One thing I can be sure of is that they will do their best to keep me away from her and tell her I am a bad person, and all the rest of the bullshit that they spin.

Re: Piers Springthorpe, CHAIRMAN of Merrehill Ltd, Manchester Scientologist

Maybe you could call a girls day? Mani and pedi and just go somewhere? Tell your friend you just need some girl talk for a couple of hours...alone...to get some cofee and just talk about "your" life

Re: Piers Springthorpe, CHAIRMAN of Merrehill Ltd, Manchester Scientologist

No amount of Scientology bullshit can get through that basic human need of friendship and love.

Just ask Tony of "getbeckyout" - as much as they want Becky to disconnect from the family, she just can't because she knows they still love her.

In the same way, Yvonne deep down knows that the cult are just after her/their money, but it's very difficult to rationalise that against 'clearing the planet', after all it's just a small sacrifice compared to the unleashed powers of an operating Thetan and a cleared planet. In the same, your friendship and concern for her will have far more of an impact.

The hand of friendship is always more powerful than a hand trying to grab a credit card.

Re: Piers Springthorpe, CHAIRMAN of Merrehill Ltd, Manchester Scientologist

haha, It isn't that straightforward, I mean do you really think they are going to let her go that easily, who is going to be the main donator for the new old Trafford org now, No doubt the pound signs will be rolling infront of their greedy eyes, and all for the good of man or whatever shit. They certainly will be on her case about myself and that I am no good if I even tried to make a suggestion like that. There is one of me and about twenty of them barking into her ears now probably, disconnect, stay away, she is an SP. I am sure also they will use Piers death as a fund raising scheme and I think it has already started.. "we will try and sell as many courses as possible to help Yvonne through this difficult time."

They will do anything for her at first and make her believe they are being so kind, she will donate , they will continue to be kind, she will donate, they will be telling her it is what Piers would have wanted, the spiral begins. Hope her parents and Piers parents stay close around her and manage to talk sense as they are non beleivers and they can't keep them away, no matter how hard they try. Disconnection in that way was never an option for either of them no matter how much pressure.