Re: Plymouth "Next Ideal Org" LOL @ "Built-in RPF" There is no way that place is going to be functioning anytime soon. After 3 months of disuse they will be forced to pay full business rates on it. Please don't tell me they are going to claim "hardship relief". From the Valuation Office website Rateable value from 2010 = £43,000 (it was reduced from the 2005 valuation of £55,000) From the government website business rates estimator: So that's over two grand a month in tax that they will have to fork out for a dead building. Unless DM is going to give them a special treat and throw a shit load of money at it to get it done up now then it is nothing but a worthless drain (and an increasing eyesore for the community). Why would he do that though, especially since Manchester and Northumbria have stood empty and rotting away for ages? They still have the expense of keeping the old org open too. Estimated rates on that property £376 per month and no they don't get any discretionary or mandatory relief. Then there's the utility bills.