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Quebec student protests explained

Discussion in 'Canada' started by Jeff Jacobsen, Aug 28, 2012.

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  1. Jeff Jacobsen Member

    http://truth-out.org/articles/item/...ment-and-the-power-of-the-radical-imagination

    "The Occupy movement began with a slogan about the 99%, but it lacked the student unions, organizational skills, and sustainable strategies employed by Quebec youth. Of course, the system of higher education in the United States is more complex given its mix of public and private universities, but this should not prevent the emergence of massive and shared organizational initiatives to develop student organizations at local, state, and national levels."

    This is a long but useful article on how he student movement against tuition hikes turned into a society-wide complaint about how the economic and governmental powers were throwing most people into debt and an unstable future for the sake of the wealthy and connected. It discusses how they organized, promoted and presented their complaints, and showed how their complaints represented the ailment of society as a whole.
  2. Archer Member

    This article doesn't tell how they also advocated vandalism of property that belonged to private individuals (even to the point of their leaders refusing to condemn it publicly) and the intimidation of those students who were against their strike.
    Sincerly,
    Someone who lives here.
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  3. Anonymous Member

    Hi Archer, these things happens, by undesirable fractions or even LE infiltrators (proven). The majority and the organizers will always help to prevent and deal with it. Protest is a right in a democratic society. These moot incidents will not end protests, and will never be excuses to end protests.
  4. Jeff Jacobsen Member

    vandalism is stupid at any time, but especially when it ruins an attempt to get a point across at a protest. I think the best thing to do is plan ahead; 1) inform the authorities that any vandalism goes against the protest plans and you will even help catch vandals, and 2) plan ahead to isolate and shame anyone who does vandalism. Put THEM on youtube as much as any cops who do wrong.
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  5. Anonymous Member

    DOX or STFU.
  6. Archer Member

    What about the student leaders publicly encouraging it? And refusing categorically to condemn it?
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  7. Archer Member

    Couldn't agree more
  8. Archer Member

    Are you willing to accept dox in french?
  9. Anonymous Member

    You have to prove they are the "leaders". But if one have the right reasons, overthrow the regime if that need to be. Power to the people!
  10. Archer Member

    Prove that they are the leaders? Really? You do realise that this conflict was innitiated by student unions who have identified public leaders and that they voted to go on strike right?
  11. Anonymous Member

    Prove - meaning I don't take your words for anything.
  12. Archer Member

    If you knew anything about the situation you would already know the answer though, this is one of those very evident things. I can't believe I have to explain such basic things to you. It really shows how little you know about the situation, therefore making your opinion less valid.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_Quebec_student_protests

    https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gabriel_Nadeau-Dubois
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    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fédération_étudiante_universitaire_du_Québec
  13. Archer Member

    Good question
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  15. Anonymous Member

    TL;DR summary: students want something for nothing (communism?) and see this as an opportunity to smash shit.

    Also, smashing windows and spraying walls in their schools *is* vandalism and *was* encouraged by their unions. Continued disrupting of others' classes (even though the majority of students voted to END this nonsense) should be punishable by severe beatdown by those affected, and all vandalism-caused damages should be put on the tuition fee in those CEGEPs and unis that participated in the whole nonsense.

    SRSly, expel every fucker seen wearing a red square, leave the education to those who appreciate it. Problem solved.
  16. First there is mod exodus, next mod became biased. Then mod became garbage.
  17. Anonymous Member

    Wat???
  18. AnonInsight Member

    I don't see any bias from Jacky Blue Note's decision, please define your bias accusation ?
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  19. RavenEyes Member

    Stop being so biased, Insight. :p (You, too, JBN.)
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  20. anonymous612 Member

    The thread was moved because it was in a Scientology section and had nothing to do with Scientology. Get the stick out of your ass.

    That being said, I always thought JBN was horribly, horribly, horribly biased. It's shameful, really. Truly shameful. I'm disappointed in you, Jacky.
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  21. Anonymous Member

    You state "Biased". Don't you mean "civil"?
  22. anonymous612 Member

    Sarcasm isn't funny when you make me have to explain it to you.
  23. AnonInsight Member

    Thread Closed (derailed of original topic)
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