Discussion in 'Independent Scientology' started by Anonymous, Sep 3, 2011.
It'll turn up on youtube eventually. Probably with subtitles.
I can't get it. Watching the circle spin is making me tired. :-(
This was the questions and answer session for Marty, you might find some answers in there you might have waited for.
Flash problem most likely...never mind, Rathbun segment is over.
quick and dirty translation of the article in Nürnberger Zeitung
original here: http://www.nordbayern.de/nuernberger-zeitung/nz-news/scientologys-draht-zu-bill-clinton-1.1493113
Any quotes that were originally in english may differ from what was originally said due to translation and back-translation.
Possibly mistranslated to due to English quirks. Having strong Scientology convictions is not quite the same as a convicted Scientologist.
Yup, that happens alot. I was quoted in a German magazine years ago about a black op I was engaged in that involved the Golden Gate Bridge in Los Angeles.
Changed it to "a Scientologist with conviction". Must have been a freudian slip or something.
A Scientologist with *a* conviction is inevitably discovered to have been an 'infiltrator', 'spy' or 'plant'.
"In the year 2000 there was a turning point. David Miscavige expanded his power, radicalised it and turned Scientology into a cult".
This supports a charge that Scientology is being run as a "millennial" cult, in line with the New Year's 2000 speech and Battlefield Earth
(set in 3000 AD, following a 1000-year reign of the "Psychlos" on Earth). This has obvious parallels to the "3rd Reich" of the Nazi's,
which was also intended to last 1000 years.
'That's how business is done in Washington and that's how business is done in America...' And, yes, that's how business is done in Hamburg.
I made a new thread for Terril and Xinjifar and others to continue the parts of the discussion that aren't directly relevant to Hamburg.
LOL shame it won't last more than 12 years at this rate.
That is actually true, Hamburg is known for its famous merchants since the middle ages.
A lot of merchants would sell thier granma, but only those from Hamburg were known to deliver.
Marty is a Freezoner ?
You're talking about what was said in the press conference Q&A right?
IMO he's merely simplifying independent scientology for the non-scientologist audience without going off the topic of the question.
HOLY shit Graham, I just watched the show with Markus Lanz. Anons, you're gonna love this shit.
First of all, Markus Lanz asks EXACTLY the right questions, as opposed to his last show I saw. And the english2german simultaneous translation is superb. The translator puts in LOTS of emotion in the right places, you really get the feeling he is personally outraged at what Marty has to tell.
It's also the first time that Mr. Rathbun had the opportunity to say he finds alot of value in the tech while Caberta is making a few cautious stabs at LRH tech a few scenes later.. she just can't help it
Rathbun spills more beans on how Cruise developed strategies with Clinton on how to talk Tony Blair into improving the standing of Scientology in the UK.
Meanwhile, I have finished subtitling the German parts of the press conference from Wednesday. It's mostly Caberta speaking, Hamburg anons are going to add videos soon.
Tony Bliar? LOL
Look how that worked out!
Direct link to the Markus Lanz programme recording:
Seems to play fine on IE8 and Firefox 6.0.2
If you can concentrate enough then you can still pick-up Marty Rathbun's english answers under the higher volume of the German audio translation
is it subtitled??
Is it fansubbed with chibi animation?
Chubby animation?? But why not?
What's the trick to seeing the subtitles?
What is the back-story to Graham Berry in Hamburg? Did he go on his own? Or is there some sort of glasnost going on here? Inquiring anons want to know!
Click on CC.
Hot German newsreader is hot.
Germanons, please advise: is "Department of the Interior" a federal or state agency?
Mrs Clinton, Wikileaks called. They asked if the cables could be cc'd directly to them this time.
Has anyone YouTubed this yet??
I will let German anons confirm but my understanding is that there is a federal department of Interior and also a Department of Interior for Hamburg. This is born out by relevant Wikipedia articles:
Thank God ... uh, Miranda, I mean.
Ich bin ein Hamburger.
And ya KNOW they're going there.
Shit. Wish I'd thought of that first.
Today, we are all Hamburgers.
Sexy guys with guy fawkes mask just got more tasty.
but less sexy at the same time.
Because the Markus Lanz show was so awesome, I give you this fully subtitled version of the show that ran yesterday evening:
Please excuse any mistakes. I didnt do any proofreading whatsoever.
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