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  1. Anonymous Member

    re: Research: Kirstie Alley's weight loss program Organic Liaison


    Quoting and bumping the request again...Need someone(s) to review the testimonials from the Organic Liaisons website and

    1) verify location of testimonials as Fort Harrison Hotel and
    2) identify those in the testimonials for possible Scientologists
    3) find dox on those people
  2. Anonymous Member

    re: Research: Kirstie Alley's weight loss program Organic Liaison

    Will post an update in a few minutes. Thanks for the feedback to Bella and the other anon. Still a work in progress.

    Its...It's....sigh. :)
  3. Anonymous Member

    re: Research: Kirstie Alley's weight loss program Organic Liaison

    Cleaned it up, incorporated suggestions, added stuff on heroin, dropped the quote boxes so this can be more easily updated, its for it's, what else?

    To assist the bloggers, members of the media and other interested parties who find their way here, here is a summary of all pertinent information on this topic.

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    This summary contains these major sections:

    1. Corporate Information
    2. Kirstie Alley's Product Relive Me and the Connection to L. Ron Hubbard's Cal-Mag formula
    3. Media Links

    Kirstie Alley's Personal website: Official Kirstie Alley Site: Pictures, Organic Liaison Weight Loss Program, Twitter Channel, The Inside Loop
    Kirstie Alley's Organic Liaison website: Official Kirstie Alley's Organic Liaison: Organic Weight Loss Program, Diet Products, Video, Supplements, Recipes


    PR WeB press release
    Kirstie Alley Launches Organic Weight-Loss System Organic Liaison
    Press Contact:
    Jason Weinberg manager
    Donovan Daughtry assistant UCLA Alum '05
    Donovan@untitledent.com
    Untitled Entertainment,
    8436 West Third St., Suite 650
    310-601-2101

    Office:
    Manager: Jason Weinberg,
    Untitled Entertainment,
    8436 West Third St., Suite 650,
    Los Angeles, CA 90048.




    1. CORPORATE INFORMATION

    1.A Corporate Location
    From this page: Kirstie Alley's Organic Liaison: Help & Customer Support

    Customer Service:
    (800) 513-5201
    (800) 604-0280 phax
    639 Cleveland Street Ste 345
    Clearwater, FL 33755
    support@organicliaison.com


    Corporate Office:

    639 Cleveland St. Suite 345
    Clearwater, FL 33755


    If you Google 639 Cleveland Street Ste Clearwater, FL 33755 scientology - Google Search this address, a number of Scientology-owned groups and Scientology-affiliated businesses show up in different suites, including:

    World Institute of Scientology Enterprises (WISE)
    639 Cleveland St., Ste. 200 Clearwater, FL

    “The World Institute of Scientology Enterprises (WISE TM) International is a religious, nonprofit corporation. This management organization is responsible for seeing that L. Ron Hubbard's Administrative Technology is made known, gotten into use and standardly delivered to the business world.” (1989)

    “A major purpose of WISE is to prevent any business-related distraction or outside influence created by the public from interfering with the lines of the Churches of Scientology or Scientology Missions. This purpose is in fact, one of the very reasons that WISE came into existence. Its achievement allows orgs and missions to carry out with their job of moving the people of Earth onto and up The Bridge to full OT.” (1996)


    “This corporation is a nonprofit religious corporation and is not organized for the private gain of any person. It is organized under the Nonprofit Religious Corporation primarily for religious purposes. Its purposes are to promote and foster the religious teachings of L. Ron Hubbard in society, and to have and exercise all rights and powers from time to time granted to nonprofit corporations by law.” (1983)

    From: STOP-WISE.BIZ : World Institute of Scientology Enterprises = Recruitment Vehicle for Scientology
    More information here:
    STOP-WISE.BIZ : World Institute of Scientology Enterprises = Recruitment Vehicle for Scientology

    STOP-WISE.BIZ Smoking Gun: Scientology's WISE Consultant's Guide to Bridge Dissemination
    Jeff Jacobsen's excellent article summarizing WISE. Recommended. STOP-WISE.BIZ : WISE as a Scientology Front Group


    1.B. Privacy, Financial & Accounting

    From this page: Kirstie Alley's Organic Liaison: Privacy Policy

    If you have any questions about our Privacy Policy, please contact our Privacy Coordinator:

    • by email at: legal@organicliaison.com or
    • by normal mail at: Organic Liaison
      Attention: Privacy Statement Personnel
      1515 North University, Suite 222
      Coral Springs, Florida 33071
    • by telephone at: 1 (800) 513-5201

    This address leads us to an accounting firm:
    From these pages:
    Saul B. Lipson - Scientology Service Completions | Truth About Scientology Statistics Project
    Saul B. Lipson

    Saul B Lipson (a Scientology WISE company) This is Kirstie Alley's second documented connection to WISE (refer to links above for background information on WISE).

    Category: Accounting Services

    Lipson Professional Group, The
    1515 N. University Dr., Ste. 222

    Saul Lipson is at least an OT V level Scientologist


    2001 WISE Directory:

    Category: Accounting Services

    Saul Lipson
    Lipson Professional Group, The
    1515 N. University Dr., Ste. 222

    Coral Springs, FL 33071-6032

    United States
    Tel. (1) 954-755-4405
    Fax (1) 305-344-3694
    E-Mail: saul@[provider].com

    2004 WISE Directory:

    Category: Accounting Services

    Saul Lipson
    The Lipson Professional Group
    1515 N. University Dr, Ste. 222

    Coral Springs, FL 33071

    United States
    Tel. +1 954-755-4405
    Fax +1 305-344-3694
    E-Mail: saul@[provider].com



    1.C. Advisory Board
    From this page: Kirstie Alley's Organic Liaison: Advisory Board

    Advisory Board

    Thomas Lovejoy (some connections to Scientology via Artists for Human Rights)
    Listed as a board member of Artists for Human Rights
    Artists for Human Rights
    Background on Artists for Human Rights
    Board of Directors AFHR( Artitst for Human Rights Scientology front group)
    Anne Archer: Founder, actress (Mother to Tommy Davis CoS Spokesperson)
    Michael Wisner: Executive Director, A writer
    Kirstie Alley, Actress:****
    Kelly Preston, Actress: (Scientologist and wife of John Travolta)
    Doctor Thomas Lovejoy:Organic Liaison (Advisory Board)***

    About Tom Lovejoy

    Bob Durst (not a known Scientologist)
    Simple Organic Solutions: Organics and kinetics
    Organics & Kinetics

    Deborah Klein (not a known Scientologist)
    Livitician™
    Deborah Klein, the world's first Livitician coach, registered dietician providing nutrition counseling, nutrition therapy
    About Rejuvalife Vitality Institute - Holistic Anti-Aging Treatments - Beverly Hills, CA Staff: RejuvaLife® Vitality Institute

    Soram Khalsa M.D (not a known Scientologist, but seriously...)
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    Quack To the Stars: Dr. Soram Khalsa - Alex Pareene - Everyone Is Trying to Kill You - True/Slant
    Khalsa Medical Clinic link is broken (Khasala Medical Clinic)
    Dr. Soram Khalsa : Dr. Soram's Integrative Medicine (He's very excited about the "Vitamin D revolution)


    Michelle Seward (Confirmed Scientologist)
    [IMG]
    Michelle Seward - Scientology Service Completions | Truth About Scientology Statistics Project
    Scientology library: “Michelle Seward”
    And according to their 2009 IRS 990 Form, Steward is President of another Scientology Front Group Youth For Human Rights International
    Youth for Human Rights International: Form 990 filings
    And a multi-level marketing program: A Review of the Protege Financial Multi-Level Marketing Program


    1. D. Marketing Testimonials
    Can we get some screen shots to document filming in the Fort Harrison?
    Can we identify those in the testimonials as scientologists?


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    2. The Product RELEASE ME and its similarity to L. Ron Hubbard's Cal-Mag formula used in the Purification Rundown and Narconon (front group for Scientology).

    Summary:
    Cal/Mag
    its a drink made with powdered calcium, magnesium and vinegar in hot water. It was a formula claimed by L Ron Hubbard but originates from Athe discredited Adelle Davis (http://www.quackwatch.org/04ConsumerEducation/davis.html).

    "L Ron Hubbard's" recipe for the Cal-Mag drink
    1 Tbsp Calcium Gluconate Power
    1/2 Tsp Magnesium Carbonate Powder
    1 Tbsp Apple Cider Vinegar at least 5% acid
    1 Tbsp Honey
    1000 international units of Vitamin D
    NOTE: Take notice of the 2 to 1 ration of Magnesium to Calcium in this recipe.

    Kirstie Alleys Organic Liaisons "Release Me" product contains:
    Calcium
    Magnesium
    Vitamin C & Citric Acid (both a substitute for the acid in Apple Cider vinegar)
    Other nutrients(doesn't have a lot of detail on the web site)

    Its really just missing a sweetener like honey but since this is a pill and not a drink a sweetener may not be needed or other nutrients may cover that.


    2. A. Release Me from Organic Liaison and Kirstie Alley
    From this page:
    Kirstie Alley’s Organic Liaison: Release Me, Weight Loss Products & Natural Dietary Supplements

    "Release Me™ Take a break from the daily stress of life with Organic Liaison’s Release Me™, the perfect way to help your body rest naturally as you lose weight. This instant mineral beverage and natural diet supplement comes as a powder, providing a two-to-one balance of calcium and magnesium. Containing vitamin C, citric acid and other nutrients, Release Me is quickly absorbed into your body to remineralize bone and helps your body relax and unwind naturally after a hectic day. Calcium and other minerals help counteract acidity from food, drink and toxins, as well as keep your bones healthy, control heart rate, blood clotting, muscle contraction and more, whereas magnesium contributes to synthesis of energy and cardiovascular functions. These minerals are alkalines, which relax the body from tightness and tension. Together, calcium and magnesium help your muscles contract and relax, while alkaline substances can help loosen fat from cells. Order your one-month supply of Release Me and treat your body to the relaxation you deserve while you lose weight.†"

    2. B. Cal-Mag and Scientology (Purification Rundown and Narconon)

    Cal-Mag is used as part of the Scientology practice of the Purification Rundown and as part the New Life Detoxification Program at the center of the front group Narconon. Background link on the similarity between these two Scientology programs, one sold to their followers and one sold to drug addicts:
    Narconon Exposed: Narconon & Scientology: Doctrines
    Scientology's Purification Rundown (Purif)


    From here: Narconon Exposed: What is the Narconon programme? - The New Life Detoxification Program Picture Book
    Over the next couple of pages, Hubbard recommends a gruesome concoction dubbed "Cal-Mag", a mixture of vegetable oil, vinegar, calcium, and magnesium which he claims to have developed in 1973. Its aim is supposedly to "handle and prevent deficiencies", "help rebuild cellular structure", "keep the nerved smoothed out" and "help prevent sore muscles". In fact, Cal-Mag was the invention in 1954 of Adelle Davis, in a book entitled Let's Eat Right To Keep Fit which has deservedly acquired a degree of notoriety for its numerous scientific errors (on average, about one per page). Davis was a hugely successful "food faddist" who claimed to be able to stave off cancer by drinking large quantities of calcium-rich milk; fate showed its sense of morbid humour when she died of cancer in 1974. (See the excellent Quackwatch website for a summary of Davis' dubious legacy - <http://www.quackwatch.org/04ConsumerEducation/davis.html>).


    The use of Cal-Mag in Narconon is discussed in this 1990 article for the
    Newark Herald Journal.
    Narconon Patient Says Center Treating Mostly Non-Indians - 5 July 90
    They gave him "Cal-Mag," a concoction of oil, vinegar, calcium, and magnesium. "Only we called it 'Cal-Gag.'" He started on two glasses of the stuff a day, then he said they wanted him to increase it to four glasses a day. "All it did was give me the runs," he said.

    Cal-Mag is described in an HCOB document called "The Purification Rundown Replaces The Sweat Program," which bears a typed signature reading "The Boards of Directors of the Churches of Scientology", but says nothing about Narconon.


    And again here: Scientology 'purification' rite used by anti-addiction centres - 14 June 1986
    And here: Addict Describes Treatment, Flight From Narconon - 29 July 1990
    A thread on Ex Scientology Kids where former members discuss Cal-Mag contains some funny stuff. Ex Scientology Kids :: View topic - Cal Mag

    WARNING Cult site: Heroin Withdrawal - Heroin Detox - withdrawal of Heroin

    Cal-Mag and Narconon and Heroin Detox!


    "Specific combinations of vitamins and a special "Cal-Mag" formulae was developed to assist with heroin detox and withdrawal. Addicts using the Cal-Mag formulae during heroin withdrawal, combined with other specific vitamins, experience much less pain and notice improved health. This encourages former heroin users to fully detoxify themselves. Dry-out or heroin withdrawal is only the 1st step of heroin detox, but fear of heroin withdrawal had to be overcome before full heroin detox was accessible to addicts. Cal Mag and holistic approaches to withdraw provided a way out of the trap of heroin addiction (see Mind-Body Detox - Nerve Assist)."


    Kirstie Alley and Narconon:
    Kirstie Alley serves as the national spokesperson for Narconon (a Scientology-affiliated drug treatment program. She has continued her Scientology training and, as of 2007, had attained the level of OT VII (Operating Thetan level 7).
    Narconon Exposed: Narconon's Supporters - Individuals

    WARNING CULT SITE: Kirstie Alley - Celebrity Supporter of ABLE International Alley has been Narconon's Spokesperson since 1990.



    3. Media Links

    KIRSTIE ALLEY’S WEIGHT LOSS PROGRAM JUST ANOTHER SCIENTOLOGY SCAM? - Faded Youth Blog
    Life Viewed Sideways
    Kirstie Alley Hawking USDA Certified Organic Weight Loss Program ecorazzi.com :: the latest in green gossip
    Kirstie Alley's Weight Loss "Elixir" | PerezHilton.com
    Rant - Kirstie Alley?s Organic Liaison = Weight Loss!?
    Cele|bitchy Blog Archive Is Kirstie Alley’s new weight loss “program” a front for Scientology?
    ♆ The Macho Response ♆: Kirstie Alley: Scientology's Smegma Cannon***
    Semaj's Blog your Blog: Kirstie Alley’s Organic Liaison: A Scientology Front?
    Kirstie Alley?s Weight Loss Company a Front for Scientology - Anonymous group finds connection between newly founded company and cult - Softpedia
    Kirstie Alley's green new organic weight-loss program Organic Liaison
    Organic Liaison Is Kirstie Alley's Diet Program - Kirstie Alley - Zimbio
  4. grumpus Member

    re: Research: Kirstie Alley's weight loss program Organic Liaison

    Wow, and I thought this thread was just about Kirstie Alley's new TV show.

    Turns out it's about how Kirstie Alley's Weight Loss program is a bunch of Cal Mag and other quackery, being sold out of WISE HQ.

    Great work so far on this.
  5. Belladonna Member

    re: Research: Kirstie Alley's weight loss program Organic Liaison

    Hey Anon who's doing all this knockout work - you can go back to your post and keep doing edits rather than making whole new copypasta posts --- oh snap, you can't, because you're posting Anon--- dayum, just occurred to me. *headdesk* What a lot of work. Thanks so much for this.
  6. Triumph Member

    re: Research: Kirstie Alley's weight loss program Organic Liaison

    The star's bizarre antics at a health spa have some worried that she's lost her grip on reality. Jackie Brygel reports.

    With her eating out of control again, Kirstie Alley checked into a ritzy California fat farm. But according to fellow guests, the 90kg-plus actress made a mockery of the facility's strict rules on dieting and exercise.

    With her new reality TV show Kirstie Alley's Big Life underway, the 59-year-old actress is desperate to make good on her promise to lose weight. But sources at the exclusive Cal-a-Vie health spa say she refused to work up a sweat, ordered desserts in her room and even flirted with kitchen staff in a seemingly desperate bid to satisfy her hunger.

    The former Cheers star, who famously shed 34kg on the Jenny Craig plan, only to put it all back on — and more — didn't get off to the best start at the $9000-a-week spa. When she discovered she couldn't squeeze into the spa's workout gear, she was in no mood to exercise.

    "Kirstie was the heaviest of the 21 women there," a spa insider told the US magazine National Enquirer.

    "The facility provides their guests with grey sweatpants, grey shorts, grey T-shirts and other workout gear, but poor Kirstie was too big for the complimentary clothes and stuck out like a sore thumb as she lumbered around in black sweats and oversized shirts."

    While guests are expected to adhere to a daily diet of 5000kJ, it seems Kirstie had other ideas. She did everything from trying to order desserts from the privacy of her room, to flirting with the kitchen staff in an attempt to obtain larger meal portions.

    "When fish tacos were served for lunch one day, Kirstie complained she didn't like the way the food was cooked. But she ate it and then went back to ask for more," says the source.

    "Another time, she flirted with the chef because she wanted two servings of lasagne. He just laughed and said no.

    "Kirstie was caught whispering to the chef about the desserts she had ordered to her room, while other guests looked on in horror."

    Read the full story in Woman's Day (on sale February 28, 2010)

    Kirstie Alley's fat farm freak out


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    http://offdainnertube.blogspot.com/

    Monday, March 1, 2010
    Scientology Moves Into Weight-loss Snake Oil Scams
    Organic Liaison Over at WWP, they're fixing to release the bombshell about Kirstie Ally's latest weight-loss snake oil scam, Organic Liaison. And, yep, there's Scientology involved.

    Seems they didn't bother to bury their corporate listings to far under their double chin. They lead back to Clearwater, Florida, Scientology's Mecca City.

    Also, connections through her Advisory Board lead to other Scientology front groups, such as, Artists for Human Rights and Youth For Human Rights International.

    Some Anons also noted that the backdrop to their marketing Testimonials seems to be none other than the Ft. Harrison Hotel, Scientology's flagship building of the Flag Land Base, also in Clearwater.

    The parallels between Alley's "Release Me" and Hubbard's "Cal-Mag" concoction, a formula used in the Purification Rundown and Narconon (front group for Scientology), are creepily similar.

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  7. RightOn Member

    re: Research: Kirstie Alley's weight loss program Organic Liaison

    This is way more deelish than any food itself
    fabulous work!
    Nipping Kirstie in the bud (butt) before her fail-a-thon gets off the ground makes me dang teary eyed! *sniff sniff* you glorious bastards!
  8. Anonymous Member

    re: Research: Kirstie Alley's weight loss program Organic Liaison

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  9. Anonymous Member

    re: Research: Kirstie Alley's weight loss program Organic Liaison

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  10. Belladonna Member

    re: Research: Kirstie Alley's weight loss program Organic Liaison

    Switzerland
    Schlank dank Kirstie Alley und Scientology

    more

    20 Minuten Online - Schlank dank Kirstie Alley und Scientology - International
  11. RightOn Member

    re: Research: Kirstie Alley's weight loss program Organic Liaison

    I am giddy
  12. tippytoe Member

    re: Research: Kirstie Alley's weight loss program Organic Liaison

    They all seem to have the Scilon "crazy eyes". Also, woman in pic #1 looks like the pendant she is wearing is the Scilon 'S' symbol.
  13. RightOn Member

    re: Research: Kirstie Alley's weight loss program Organic Liaison

    How ironic to name a product "Release Me" when there is so much Scientology behind it
  14. Anonymous Member

    re: Research: Kirstie Alley's weight loss program Organic Liaison

    I'm going to keep tweeting a few tweets to piss kirstie off. I hope to get a direct reply from her before bedtime.

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  15. Anonymous Member

    re: Research: Kirstie Alley's weight loss program Organic Liaison

    OH HAI VISITORS! Welcome to WWP. We're glad you're here.


    This story has legs...if you have media contacts, POOON THEM NOW!

    And TwitterAnon....would you be interested in reviving the Twitter Trending Topic thread and getting something going there on this....you would be full of win if you did and 72 virgins would be waiting for you in Valhalla!

    (Mixing up my historical/religious references FTW!)
  16. RightOn Member

    re: Research: Kirstie Alley's weight loss program Organic Liaison

    awesome
    plant a few seeds a doubt in there too
    like
    If the tech fails....use Kirstie's Release Me for weight loss.

    Funny that COS backs this crap, just because they are profitting from it.
    To me it shows their COS members... the tech doesn't work ......look at Kirstie!
    The Puriff doesn't work either .....look at Kirstie, she is an OTV!

    And if Kirstie is SO pro COS, then why doesn't she do Puriff's to hack some of that meat off her? Oh wait.. she wouldn't have a show then and then her money wouldn't be going to COS. Never mind
  17. Anonymous Member

    re: Research: Kirstie Alley's weight loss program Organic Liaison

    Off to work.

    Here's a nice tidbit I received via email that should be followed up on and it's pretty juicy also.

    Time for A&E to take some heat for even putting this Scientology infomercial on the air, dontcha think?

    Can we find dox on Munic's wife?

    So much win. So much fun. Ah, the lulz of shutting down this cult's bullshit...
  18. RightOn Member

    re: Research: Kirstie Alley's weight loss program Organic Liaison

    NEVER MIND!

    I wrote this ^ cuz my post was fail
  19. Anonymous Member

  20. Anonymous Member

    re: Research: Kirstie Alley's weight loss program Organic Liaison

    I ain't savvy with this kind of thing. Show-runner would refer only to that specific show, right? I don't see any indication that he's responsible for getting things on the air at A&E. So other than the old-boy network - which is everything in Hollywoodland, I don't see Munic's direct involvement w/ Kirstie's show.
  21. RightOn Member

    re: Research: Kirstie Alley's weight loss program Organic Liaison

    How about him working with Jada Pinkette Smith?
    (but this was from 2007)

    Based on an idea by Jada Pinkett-Smith, the untitled Courage Crew project for FX revolves around of a faction of "straight edge" punks called Courage Crew. Robert Munic ("Runnin' ") is writing.

    yeah I know who cares. It's a HUGE stretch. So he worked with her. big deal.

    Not to derail. but I never knew Jada Pinkette Smith was in a"metal" band? Wicked Wisdome?


    she is scary and she sucks
  22. Anonymous Member

    re: Research: Kirstie Alley's weight loss program Organic Liaison

    Huge stretch? Maybe yes, maybe no. One never knows about these things...
    (Except the entertainment writers)

    Here's your source on the quote
    Hitch 'em up: Overbrook dives deep into TV The Hollywood Reporter
  23. pajamawarrior Member

    re: Research: Kirstie Alley's weight loss program Organic Liaison

    I don't know why RightOn said nevermind a few posts later, but I totally agree w/ this post.

    A seriously dumb thing for the mind bending cult to get behind. Because hello! we all have eyes! Even the bended minds!

    OT power proof! If an OT cannot do it..... then, well...

    Watch and wait my friend ...watch and wait....muwahahaha...A flesh colored body stocking to hold shit in along with a robe (ie. Oprah show) will not cut it! LOL!
  24. xenubarb Member

    re: Research: Kirstie Alley's weight loss program Organic Liaison

    OMG...Let me sell you this weight loss product while I go to a $9000 fat farm you can't afford.

    Let me flirt with Chef (heh) and order forbidden fuds from mah room.

    Now buy my stuff, cuz even though I weigh a million pounds, IT WORKS!

    This is gonna be fun.

    ps. Cheers lost my view when Kirstie blared in. I quit watching. Her character; large, whiny and insecure is not far from her actual persona. The fact that I don't remember her in Star Trek suggests that she didn't, excuse the term, stick out enough for me to notice. So at some point she was doin it right.
  25. Optimisticate Member

    re: Research: Kirstie Alley's weight loss program Organic Liaison

    I wonder what type of paperwork was involved for her to be able to release Cal-Mag in a similar form under a different name? It seems that scientology is awfully tight with its copyrights and what it perceives as scientology "owned". I don't see them saying "oh heck yeah, let's let someone who really doesn't give us a good public front take the formula LRon created that cures everything and put her company name on it with a new product name."

    It had to have been vetted by a legal department somewhere....
  26. Triumph Member

    re: Research: Kirstie Alley's weight loss program Organic Liaison

    I don't think they own the copyrights to Cal-Mag its been around a lot longer than Hubbard..there are a lot of on-line sources to purchase it, you can tell which ones are Scientology sources ,they make all kinds of exaggerated Hubbardian Claims that it cures everything! from depression to constipation!


    I was reading one site that had a bunch of testimonials one claimed it cured her husbands Epileptic fits! after he took Cal-Mag and dropped his medication
    I can't help think of poor Jett Travolta, having to take this crap instead of proper medication, for epileptic seizures .

    Because Hubbard had all the answers.? Like Hubbard's claims of a cure to cancer,, you think people would be lined up around the block of the nearest org looking for a cure.

    Hubbard took the ideas from books by an Adelle Davis, see posts here.

    If Hubbard was smart he would have convinced his followers that once the made it up the bridge to OT8
    they could "Lay Golden Eggs"

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  27. willhaven720 Member

    re: Research: Kirstie Alley's weight loss program Organic Liaison

    A) Fuck that fake-ass courage crew bullshit.

    B) That song made me want to blow my Bad Brains out. (ucwutididthere?)

    C) Save me Candace...



    And that's how it's done.
  28. Anonymous Member

    re: Research: Kirstie Alley's weight loss program Organic Liaison

    rath of Kha-Khan

    She played the fem-Spock
    with a jerky, mechanical performance that was somehow intended to be shaped into further roles in the Third and Sixth movies.

    All the boy nerds fapped to her :(

    Why you don't remember her:
    Kirstie got greedy. Demanded moar monies, and stormed off the set of ST-III, ST-VI, and an episode of TNG.

    Kirstie gave Trek the finger three times. I think that's a world record.
  29. Anonymous Member

    re: Research: Kirstie Alley's weight loss program Organic Liaison

    More Fake Faith healing and claims of Cures by Hubbard

    http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~dst/NOTs/medical/jacobsen-medical.txt

    Cure goiter DIANETICS TODAY (1975 ED.) P.280
    "I've seen a goiter the size of a baseball visibly shrink and
    disappear in the space of one-half hour right after an engram
    was run."

    Cure polio DIANETICS TODAY " P. 353
    "A girl crippled by polio was able to throw away her crutches
    after my first session."

    Cure arthritis History of Man p. 7
    "Today, Eleanor has arthritis. She is audited... tonight she
    doesn't have arthritis"

    Speed broke bone healing DIANETICS TODAY " P.110
    "A broken limb will heal (by X-ray evidence) in two instead of
    six weeks."

    Cure effects of drugs DIANETICS TODAY " P.481
    "ONLY processing by Dianetics and Scientology can handle the
    effects of drugs fully."

    Raise the dead Magazine Articles on Level 0
    Checksheet 1968, "Dissemination of Material" p.75
    "A child had died, was dead, had been pronounced dead by a doctor,
    and the auditor, by calling the thetan back and ordering him to take
    over the body again brought the child to life."

    Cure migraines DIANETICS " P.125
    also see HCOB 15 Jan. '79 "Handling with Auditing"

    Cure cancer THE HISTORY OF MAN (1961) P. 20
    "Cancer has been eradicated by auditing out conception and
    mitosis."

    Cure skin cancer ALL ABOUT RADIATION (1979 ED.) P.114

    Cure radiation sickness ALL ABOUT RADIATION " P.109
    also PAB no. 82 "Scientology is the only specific (cure) for
    radiation (atomic bomb) burns."

    Improve eyesight PAB no. 111 "Eyesight and glasses"
    also Dianetic Auditor's Bulletin vol. 2 no. 7 January 1952 "An
    afternoon with Ron" "You are only three or four hours from taking
    your glasses off for keeps."

    Cure a broken ankle HCOB 30 July 1973 "Scientology, Current State
    of the Subject and Materials."

    Cure insanity HCOB 28 Nov. '70 "Psychosis" "The alleviation
    of the condition of insanity has also been accomplished now..."

    Cure bronchitis HCOB 14 Dec. '63 "Case analysis Health
    Research"
    "12 days after this auditing the coughing was still in abeyance."

    cure brainwashing HCOB No. 19 Dec. '55 "The turn of the Tide"
    "... in Dianetics in particular, we have the total antidote for the
    eradication of brainwashing."

    Miscellaneous claims DIANETICS (1987 ED.) p.72
    "arthritis vanishes, myopia gets better, heart illness
    decreases, asthma disappears, stomachs function properly and
    the whole catalogue of illnesses goes away and stays away."
    HISTORY OF MAN P.13
    "The GE has the record of past deaths. Auditing it alters physical
    structure, eradicates physical malformations."
    HISTORY OF MAN P.14
    "Paralysis, anxiety stomachs, arthritis and many ills and aberrations
    have been relieved by auditing them."

    Hubbard wrote that Scientologists taking courses were barred from
    visiting a doctor without express permission from the church "except in
    cases of severe emergency." (HCOPL 26 July 1965 "Release Declaration
    Restrictions, Healing Amendments). One must assume that the church did
    not really want sick people taking courses, and thus one could infer that
    it was assumed that auditing could handle any illness of the student.

    In 1963 the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) raided the church
    in Washington DC and confiscated their e-meters. The FDA sued the
    Church of Scientology for fraudulant medical claims and called the
    e-meter a fraudulant healing device. The church after many years
    finally settled with the FDA. In part, the ruling that the church was
    to abide by states concerning the e-meter:
  30. Triumph Member

    re: Research: Kirstie Alley's weight loss program Organic Liaison

    that one always cracks me up
    it was the Kennedy Administration that really cracked down on them hard for their bogus medical claims.


    Medical claims in Scientology doctrine
    From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medical_claims_in_Scientology_doctrine

    CRITICAL ANALYSIS OF THE PURIFICATION RUNDOWN
    by David Hogg, M.D.
    http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~dst/Narconon/sources/reports/hogg.htm

    Scientology
    Science or New Age Cult?
    http://www.rapidnet.com/~jbeard/bdm/Cults/scientol.htm


    I'm sitting here with a broken Ankle!I blew all that money on surgery and thearpy when Dianetics was the answer for that! go figure

    Cal Mag was a part of the bogus detox program for 9-11 firefighters the article supports some of Hubbards quackery

    The Ocala Detoxification Project.
    http://www.ocala.com/article/20100123/ARTICLES/1231016/1001/NEWS01?Title=Tickets-still-available-for-movie-premiere-gala
    Hubbard was a science fiction writer who founded the Church of Scientology, of which Preston and Travolta are members. But detoxification is not a Scientology program, Miller emphasized. In fact, he said, patients undergoing treatments are asked not to discuss religion or politics in an effort to reduce their stress.

    Detoxification treatments include daily doses of immediate-release niacin, aerobic exercise, intermittent sauna, cold-pressed oils to prevent toxins from being re-absorbed by the intestines, and vitamin and mineral supplements, according to the International Academy of Detoxification Specialists.
    ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Quackery in the Medical Device Field
    Kenneth L. Milstead
    October 25, 1963
    http://www.devicewatch.org/reg/milstead.shtml

    [IMG]
  31. Anonymous Member

    re: Research: Kirstie Alley's weight loss program Organic Liaison

    not to derail further, but your not being a teenage boy is probably why you didn't, "stick out" for her.

    not her best pic- but the contour lines come through OK:
    saavik.jpg
  32. crimsanon Member

    re: Research: Kirstie Alley's weight loss program Organic Liaison

    there aren't any photos of fort harrison out there that have been taken in the same place as the testimonials. i found some similar patio doors but they just about look similar. i shall google more. I found a video that was a virtual tour on the scientology.org site linked from a fort harrison history site but i keeps 404ing on me.
  33. Anonymous Member

    re: Research: Kirstie Alley's weight loss program Organic Liaison

    Boo. The person who said he recognized the Ft Harrison is an ex who is currently in WWP dome-jail. Hope he gets let out soon. Free Smurf!

    Thanks crimsanon.
  34. kissyfur Member

    re: Research: Kirstie Alley's weight loss program Organic Liaison

    <---- I C!!!!
  35. Anonymous Member

    re: Research: Kirstie Alley's weight loss program Organic Liaison


    The best place for photos to match up with Flag may be from the old Scilon mags. There are I think a few threads with links to them
  36. Triumph Member

    re: Research: Kirstie Alley's weight loss program Organic Liaison

    Gawker'
    Marathon Sessions at Scientology Center Means Katie Is Either Pregnant Again or Plotting an Escape

    Katie Holmes has been spending a lot of time at the Hollywood Scientology Center, which means they are probably anointing the thousand sacrificial virgins necessary to spawn a second Suri Cruise Hubbard Jesus as we speak. Reports a Page Six embed: &quot;This is exactly what happened just before she got pregnant with Suri. Tom has made no secret of the fact that he would like another baby.&quot; X17 made the same guess last week. Creepy as the collective Holmes-Cruise silent labors are, I cannot oppose a process that creates creatures this adorable. Besides, how do we know she's not gearing up to leave Tom, and is actually in the process of negotiating her freedom? You can do it, Katie! Gather your Suri and run.
    Marathon Sessions at Scientology Center Means Katie Is Either Pregnant Again or Plotting an Escape - Katie Holmes - Gawker
    katieholmespurplehands__oPt.jpg
    The Mystery Revealed: Scientology Hands!!! | PerezHilton.com

    Is Kirstie Alley promoting a diet of Scientology?

    Kirstie Alley appeared on Oprah last week shilling her new weight loss program, Organic Liaison. Anonymous, a group of anti-Scientology protesters, are claiming that fees charged, primarily for vitamin supplements, will be going to supplement the coffers of the Church of Scientology. The office for Organic Liaison, Anonymous claims, is a front for the Church of Scientology, which means all money sent to Liaison goes to Scientologists. Alley’s diet plan prescribes the use of a specific set of vitamin supplements; are these L. Ron Hubbard approved?

    http://www.soulscode.com/spiritual-surf-purim-scientology-diet-panchen-lama-anthony-hopkins-jerusalem-farrakhan/
    Is Kirstie Alley’s new weight loss “program” a front for Scientology?
    http://globalgrind.com/channel/gossip/content/1419579/Is-Kirstie-Alleys-new-weight-loss-program-a-front-for-Scientology/
    Because Kirstie Alley states she's now up to &quot;taking responsibility for mankind,&quot; and because of Scientology's use of their celebrities to influence millions, SPDL believes it is in the public interest to post her entire interview from Source 193 © 2007 CSI.
    source-193-36-37.jpg

    http://suppressiveperson.org/spdl/index.php?option=com_content&amp;task=view&amp;id=428&amp;Itemid=70

    Life is a Game

    A fundamental part of Hubbard's philosophy is that Life is a game, and that human beings are either players, pieces, or broken pieces if we are playing at all.

    [IMG]
  37. AnotherSock Member

    re: Research: Kirstie Alley's weight loss program Organic Liaison

    The picture of the Kirstie Alley on Wikipedia is way out of date ("Alley at the 1994 Emmy Awards"). While I wouldn't condone outright vandalism... can anybody upload a more up to date one? Because the more up to date it is, the more harm it'll do to any idea of associating her with slimness and health. Present-day Alley is huge. (In fact, to use the new Scilon meme, she's HUDGE.)
  38. Belladonna Member

    re: Research: Kirstie Alley's weight loss program Organic Liaison

    That's not vandalism, it's adhering to accuracy.
  39. RightOn Member

    re: Research: Kirstie Alley's weight loss program Organic Liaison

    how about live footage from her "aqua-thon"?

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t4BY4-b7-Ls&feature=related"]YouTube- Aquathon 2009: Kirstie Alleys 24-hour Telethon 07/25/09 08:29PM[/ame]
  40. Anonymous Member

    re: Research: Kirstie Alley's weight loss program Organic Liaison

    Does any ex-scilon have some brochures from Flag that they could scan and upload so we can identify the places needed?

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