Research /r/: Scilons picketing residences

CantPickaName · Mar 21, 2009

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i'mglib;801571 said:

I agree with Pacora. A lot of people said that Gold Base was a waste of time and fighting the ordinance was off target and no big deal, etc. But look what it turned into? A SEVEN PART SERIES OF WIN on KESQ, and huge attention in Riverside County, and the world.

So, I would say once this list is compiled that the Board of Supervisor's meeting would be a great place to present it. It doesn't matter if it "changes" anything...like getting the ordinance appealed. That's not the point. What matters is public attention, media attention, pressure, and embarrassment. It's all good. In fact, it's almost BETTER that it doesn't change anything because it proves how corrupt the supervisors are. I am pretty sure more media attention can be squeezed out of Riverside County.

Looking at it from this angle, I am now inclined to agree

anonakatie · Mar 21, 2009

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Didn't they protest Grandma Ida? Boy, that would be a good thing to bring to Stone's attention.

In NY, they went to one Anon's work, showed his boss the book and told his boss he was into all kind of weird stuff.

That book has made the rounds.

BigBeard · Mar 21, 2009

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It might be interesting to see if KESQ would be interested in a copy of such a DVD compilation of these $cilon antics.

BigBeard

Lorelei · Mar 21, 2009

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I believe MarcabianEmpress had her neighborhood fliered, and her neighbors were alerted to Scilons Behaving Badly after smug cultists started being asshats near or in front of her home.

pacora · Mar 21, 2009

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BigBeard;801726 said:

It might be interesting to see if KESQ would be interested in a copy of such a DVD compilation of these $cilon antics.

BigBeard

Now that's what I'm talking about.

Anonymous · Mar 21, 2009

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During public comment, each speaker has 3 minutes. Why not put a thirty minute DVD together of the various protests against protestor homes, by the very people who requested Stone introduce 884, and have ten people present it at the board meeting.

BigBeard;801726 said:

It might be interesting to see if KESQ would be interested in a copy of such a DVD compilation of these $cilon antics.

BigBeard

Wouldn't be a bit surprised

It wouldn't neccessarily have to be 30 minutes...is there an anon willing and able to put together something like this...

We're on a roll...

And

WE RUN THIS...

Anonymous · Mar 21, 2009

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Anonymous;801559 said:

OP here.

Have not had a chance to aggregate the leads given today. Ty for those. I also haven't had a chance to update list with research from today.

From yesterday, list is:

Ethercat
Bob Minton
Bonnie Woods (minimal dox)
Charlotte L. Kates
David Johansen (only personal acct.)
Deana Holmes (only personal acct.)
AO
Gregg Hagglund
Jeff Jacobsen (ty for the article Jeff, you rock!)
Jim Wissick (And parents' home)
John Gordon Clark, M.D.
Jon Atack
Keith Henson
Kristi Wachter
Mark Bunker
Patricia Ryan (no dox)
Robert Vaughn Young and Stacy Brooks (+ 2 sisters) (only personal accts)
Rod Keller (no dox)
Ron Newman (no dox)
Ted Mayett (limited dox)

Also possibles that I've hit a dead end on or just haven't confirmed:
Jim Lewis
Julia Lewellyn Smith
Grady Ward
alias: Meklar
alias? Taniwha

Relevant to people who want harpoons:

-Compiling all info, including names, dates, pics, vids, articles, and links in a DB. I'll make that available to harpooners once it is sorted. Could be as early as Monday, or as late as Thurs for v1.
-also including info on Tommy Gorman's account on lermanet..leads to more like this would be appreciated

Relevant to ppl w/ info:

-Data will not include the names or personally id'able info of people who haven't already it published on the net. If anyone has that kind of info, blacked out names on dox and pics, and fuzz face vids are still useful. ?'s or info can be emailed to anongelizedathushmaildotcom if you prefer not to post here.

This entire thread, along with all relevant info needs to be sent to KESQ, multiple times, ASAP:
http://www.kesq.com/Global/category.asp?C=29382&nav=menu191_11

Anonymous · Mar 21, 2009

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Anonymous;802084 said:

This entire thread, along with all relevant info needs to be sent to KESQ, multiple times, ASAP:
http://www.kesq.com/Global/category.asp?C=29382&nav=menu191_11

You can contact Nathan Baca at nbaca@kesq.com

TomVorm · Mar 21, 2009

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A list of described harassment incidents from the late 1990's, is at
http://www.solitarytrees.net/pickets/sp0000.htm

Buttons · Mar 21, 2009

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I seem to remember that Magoo had her neighborhood fliered as well.

Anonymous · Mar 25, 2009

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Would any OG's know if Bob Minton ever got video of the harassment at his house? And if that video ever made it onto the net?

Several hours of video are referenced in various articles about court cases, but all of the video I've found so far is the LMT video of anti-scientology pickets, and some bullbaiting and assault that occurred there.

the anti · Mar 25, 2009

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Lorelei;801736 said:

I believe MarcabianEmpress had her neighborhood fliered, and her neighbors were alerted to Scilons Behaving Badly after smug cultists started being asshats near or in front of her home.

i think most of us in LA have, she just got them in the act

Pantagruanon · Mar 25, 2009

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TomVorm;802095 said:

A list of described harassment incidents from the late 1990's, is at
Harassment done by the Church of Scientology

Just clicked on one link and thought it was a Tommy Davis/Jeff Stone deja vu. From a 1999 PI complaint letter to a Phoenix teacher's district supervisors:

"...someone shot at the church. Also windows were broken several times. Other acts of desecration were committed within the last month. Fortunately no one was injured but the parishioners are (rightfully so) concerned for their safety.

It does go on to say the writer doesn't know if this teacher did it, but she's affiliated with this "hate and bigotry" group.

Sound familiar?

Anonymous · Mar 25, 2009

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Anonymous;802087 said:

You can contact Nathan Baca at nbaca@kesq.com

Done.

Anonymous · Mar 25, 2009

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Just clicked on one link and thought it was a Tommy Davis/Jeff Stone deja vu. From a 1999 PI complaint letter to a Phoenix teacher's district supervisors:

"...someone shot at the church. Also windows were broken several times. Other acts of desecration were committed within the last month. Fortunately no one was injured but the parishioners are (rightfully so) concerned for their safety.

Definitely de ja vu for most of the reports.

During the protests in the mid 90's until 2001 or so, Co$ claimed the SAME things that they do about Anon now in '08-'09. It is all terrorist this, nazis that and allusions to the KKK. OMG HAET GROUP!!!!

Almost have collected dox in some sort of order, though all I have for a number of instances is personal accounts or second hand accounts of the harassment. If ANYONE has pic's, or vid, scans of flyers from their own dead agenting..post post post. I KNOW pics exist for more of these, but they've succumbed to link rot.

I have photo dox/scans/vid for these only:

Ethercat
Bob Minton
Bruce Pettycrew
Christopher Wood
Deana Holmes
AO/Francois Choquette
Grady Ward
Greg Hagglund
Jeff Jacobsen (from a protest at a job, not home picket)
Jim Wissick
Joe Lynn
Jon Atack
Kristi Wachter
Mark Bunker

That's less than half of the total.

Anonymous · Mar 25, 2009

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Pantagruanon;805999 said:

Just clicked on one link and thought it was a Tommy Davis/Jeff Stone deja vu. From a 1999 PI complaint letter to a Phoenix teacher's district supervisors:

"...someone shot at the church. Also windows were broken several times. Other acts of desecration were committed within the last month. Fortunately no one was injured but the parishioners are (rightfully so) concerned for their safety.

It does go on to say the writer doesn't know if this teacher did it, but she's affiliated with this "hate and bigotry" group.

Sound familiar?

I found a scan of that letter here. The header or profile for the gif seem to have gotten hosed, so it didn't show up for me. However, if you copy the image, and paste it into an image editor, the image data is still there.

fix't image

Anon-007 · Mar 28, 2009

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Bumped to knock out spam posts currently flooding the board.

ethercat · Mar 28, 2009

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Anonymous;806119 said:

Definitely de ja vu for most of the reports.

During the protests in the mid 90's until 2001 or so, Co$ claimed the SAME things that they do about Anon now in '08-'09. It is all terrorist this, nazis that and allusions to the KKK. OMG HAET GROUP!!!!

Almost have collected dox in some sort of order, though all I have for a number of instances is personal accounts or second hand accounts of the harassment. If ANYONE has pic's, or vid, scans of flyers from their own dead agenting..post post post. I KNOW pics exist for more of these, but they've succumbed to link rot.

I have photo dox/scans/vid for these only:

Ethercat
Bob Minton
Bruce Pettycrew
Christopher Wood
Deana Holmes
AO/Francois Choquette
Grady Ward
Greg Hagglund
Jeff Jacobsen (from a protest at a job, not home picket)
Jim Wissick
Joe Lynn
Jon Atack
Kristi Wachter
Mark Bunker

That's less than half of the total.

Add Dave Touretzky if this is good enough dox for you:
Scientology Pickets Carnegie Mellon

Jeff Jacobsen · Mar 28, 2009

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Buttons;802100 said:

I seem to remember that Magoo had her neighborhood fliered as well.

anti-critic flyers allegedly handed out by Scientology

That's a collection of Scientology flyers from over the years.

the anti · Mar 28, 2009

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Jeff Jacobsen;810425 said:

anti-critic flyers allegedly handed out by Scientology

That's a collection of Scientology flyers from over the years.

i think that needs to be updated with flyers they put around our homes

ethercat · Mar 29, 2009

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Jeff Jacobsen;810425 said:

anti-critic flyers allegedly handed out by Scientology

That's a collection of Scientology flyers from over the years.

Jeff, you can add this one: MadKow, Wynot, and ethercat and one for Wynot, from April 10, 1999. Notice that they blocked out part of Wynot's sign in their picture. The missing word is "harasses."

These were left in neighbors' mailboxes.

Anonymous · Mar 29, 2009

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Jeff-Hadn't seen that resource. I had some of these flyers from other sources, but definitely not ALL of them. Awesome.

Ethercat-Thanks for the flyers! Hadn't seen these.

Unfortunately, Dave's protest doesn't really count for this, as it didn't happen at his home. That counter-picket organized by random students was great though, wasn't it?

IRL shit has gotten in the way of completing this. I am without mah Lexis Nexis for another couple of weeks, so I'm limited to what Google turns up. Still, I have a fair amount of organized info+a list of potential leads I haven't started on. If anyone wants a copy, I can upload. If you want it, tell me what format you want. csv, xls, html are all doable. (Note: Physical addresses won't be included in what I upload. )

RHill · Apr 12, 2009

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themadhair;799718 said:

I think Bob Minton got picketed too.

Just in case there is still a need for references, here is a reference of Bob Minton being picketed, from an article in the New York Times:

Leaving her home in Boston one morning early this month, Therese Minton was shocked to find her husband's photograph on fliers stuck to cars and trees in their Beacon Hill neighborhood. Beneath the photo was text that began: ''The face of religious bigotry. Your neighbor Bob Minton is not all that he seems.''

A few nights later, as children arrived for the birthday party of one of the Mintons' two young daughters, three Scientologists picketed quietly outside the home, handing out the same flier.

And the same night of his daughter's party, Mr. Minton was among about 40 anti-Scientologists marching in front of the church's spiritual headquarters in Clearwater, Fla., to mark the second anniversary of a Scientologist's death, for which the protesters blamed the church.

Boston Man in Costly Fight With Scientology - The New York Times

hartley patterson · Apr 13, 2009

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Bonnie Woods wrote a book about her experiences, online at

:: escape :: helping families effected by Scientology

It includes an account of how she was picketed in the first chapter.

The resulting libel case concerned the leaflet distributed by the cult, but one newspaper did mention the picketing:
http://www.rickross.com/reference/scientology/Scien140.html

Snake · Apr 13, 2009

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A few of us in LA have had our neighborhood's flyered and I have personally had them come with cameras to my house.

the anti · Apr 13, 2009

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so this will all be stuff for stone to check out right? when will this be?

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