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Riots in Ferguson, Missouri after police shoot Michael Brown

Discussion in 'News and Current Events' started by The Wrong Guy, Aug 10, 2014.

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    Anonymous Says It Released the Name of the Officer Who Shot Michael Brown | The Wire

    The Ferguson Police Department has not confirmed their allegation and The Wire has reached out to all parties involved.

    http://www.thewire.com/national/201...of-the-officer-who-shot-michael-brown/376057/
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    Anonymous Releases Alleged Name Of Officer They Say Fatally Shot Michael Brown | CBS St. Louis

    Internet hacking group “Anonymous” released Thursday morning on Twitter the alleged name of the Ferguson police officer they claim fatally shot 18-year-old Michael Brown last weekend.

    The group then warned that they will first release the officer’s photo, then his address, and finally “full documents” within hours if the St. Louis County Police Department does not respond.

    CBS St. Louis will not identify the person named by Anonymous until it is confirmed by officials.

    Continued at http://stlouis.cbslocal.com/2014/08...-officer-they-say-fatally-shot-michael-brown/
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    St. Louis County police will no longer be involved in policing Ferguson | RT USA

    According to Rep. Lacy Clay, St. Louis County police will no longer be involved in policing the town of Ferguson, Missouri.

    DETAILS TO FOLLOW

    http://rt.com/usa/180360-police-louis-policing-ferguson/
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    Anonymous @Crypt0nymous · 11m
    Don't ask me why, I am a moralfag. #NextTweets

    Anonymous @Crypt0nymous · 8m
    Lets finish this before @TheAnonMessage does. So, we had a conversation on IRC today on who could be the murderer. We got 2-4 names.

    Anonymous @Crypt0nymous · 4m
    I warned @TheAnonMessage due op importance and public safety, lynch danger. He said if he would pick the wrong guy, he would blame it on

    Anonymous @Crypt0nymous · 2m
    his source, an Anon on IRC. This Anon also agreed. Due my warnings that even I, someone who isn't really involved, got 2 names, he ignored.

    Anonymous @Crypt0nymous · 34s
    So, what @TheAnonMessage is doing right now is playing poker with the life of people. And btw. he wasn't sure. It doesn't matter if he

    Anonymous @Crypt0nymous · 36s
    is right or wrong at the end. This is not what Anonymous is about. Despite the fact that he shared almost immediately a email for journos.

    Anonymous @Crypt0nymous · 1m
    Basically getting fame with this, or blaming his source. I don't care how this will end, but this is not ok. Just for the record. #Famefag
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    Lynch danger indeed. Even if they have the right name, releasing it is counterproductive. Non-local law enforcement are involved now, let the wheels of justice turn.
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    Anonymous @Crypt0nymous · 14s
    I didn't say that the name is wrong. Read the tweets again. I call on you get on IRC #opFerguson right now. Ask the operators and everyone

    Anonymous @Crypt0nymous · 37s
    for channel logs. Public talk between "TheAnonMessage" and "Cry" (me) back ~ 5 hours, around 12:30 london time.

    Anonymous @Crypt0nymous · 5s
    Due security reasons I cant get on IRC or elsewhere. Right now i have the logs post-12:30 (London time). Pls ask channel ops for logs.

    Anonymous @Crypt0nymous · 42s
    Full chat logs will show that @TheAnonMessage wasn't sure about it. In case of a fail, another person who goes by a default irc nick.

    Anonymous @Crypt0nymous · 29s
    Again: Name could be right or wrong, especially right now anger is a powerful but dangerous tool. NOBODY was sure about him.

    Anonymous @Crypt0nymous · 1m
    For the record @TheAnonMessage tweeted false pics on Ferguson from prev. riots and also threatened to dox the kid of a chief.
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    https://firstlook.org/theintercept/...on-u-s-police-dragged-light-horrors-ferguson/
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    If that is the cop who shot the boy, I have to say... lol. But Imma not support angry people fucking around with this case, which is serious business deserving investigation and collection of evidence by disciplined professionals.

    If that is not the guy but just some poor bastard trying not to be targeted by angry vigilantes aimed in the wrong direction, then he has my sympathies.
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    Greetings world, we are Anonymous.

    On August 9th in Ferguson, Missouri the 17 year old and unarmed Mike Brown was shot several times and killed by an officer of the Ferguson Police Department. His body was left to lie in a pool of blood in the sweltering heat for hours while 15 police departments militarized the area against protesters, sealed the roads leading to Ferguson in a vain attempt to prevent protesters from reaching the city. The police has clearly crossed a line in the sand.

    For this reason Anonymous will not be satisfied this time, as we have in the past - with simply obtaining justice for this young man and his family. Anonymous demands that the Congressional Representatives and Senators from Missouri introduce legislation entitled "Mike Brown's Law" that will set strict national standards for police conduct and misbehaviour in the USA.

    To the good people of Ferguson, take heart - and take your streets. You are not alone, we will support you in every way possible. Occupy every square inch of your city. Demand justice, staying silent today could result in the death of your kid tomorrow.

    To the Ferguson Police Department and any other jurisdictions who are deployed to the protests: we are watching you very closely. If you abuse, harass - or harm in any way the protesters in Ferguson we will take every web based asset of your departments and governments off line. That is not a threat, it is a promise. Attacking the protesters will result in the release of personal information on every single member of the Ferguson Police Department, as well as any other jurisdiction that participates in the abuse of this States own law. We will seize all your databases and E-Mail spools and dump them on the Internet. This is your first and last warning.

    The time has come for more than simple justice for these atrocities. The time has come to draw a line in the sand. The time has come to bring those to justice, who served to protect us, not kill us.

    Until justice prevails, hack and protest will replace it.

    Operation Ferguson engaged.

    We Are Anonymous.
    We Are Legion.
    We do Not Forgive.
    We do Not Forget.
    Ferguson, Expect us.


    I have question. Are there laws in Ferguson regarding the gathering of large groups of people? Are permits required, for example? Because most communities no wants angry mobs in their streets which can suddenly turn into rioting and looting.

    If the crowds were illegal, then the police were doing their jobs when they asked the crowds to leave the area. And it is not right to rage at the police for enforcing the laws on the books.

    If the crowds were legal, then okay the cops were in the wrong.

    Please get back to me with an answer, Anonymous. Thanks.
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    I am sorry, Anonymous, but you sound like a self important twat who wants to feel special by Making Things Happen.

    Why is it necessary for you to hide your real identity in this situation?

    Pretty sure we already have laws on the books that make it illegal for police officers to gun down unarmed citizens in cold blood.
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  20. fuckn' skidz haven't listened for days, now the twitter account is shut down. What a waste.
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    I think people have different ideas about Anonymous.

    Some people view Anonymous as heroic do-gooders stepping up to the plate when The System disappoints. Lovable superheros who take no personal credit for all their hard work on behalf of the downtrodden and oppressed. Like the Batman, they serve the cause of Great Justice, extra-judicially.

    Personally, I view extra-judicial justice as an opposity thing talking out both sides of its mouth. Maybe it is okay on rare occasions. Like torture. Maybe torture is okay in unusual situations, like the ticking time bomb scenario. But no wants any general rules amongst us suggesting torture or vigilantism are good ideas. They are bad ideas. They are crimes. People who do those things have a lot of fucking asplaining to do.

    I am making a note that we have Al Jazeera in the middle of this drama. And people tweeting that police = Israel and citizens = Palestinians. Also Al Sharpton. Awaiting Nation of Islam for the drama llama trifecta.
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  22. RavenEyes Member

    Thank you, TI.
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  23. fishypants Moderator


    There is such a thing as disproportionate violence.
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    rolandsmartin@rolandsmartin 10m
    THIS JUST IN: Dorian Johnson's lawyer tells #NewsOneNow he is now a federal witness and won't be doing any additional news interviews.
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  26. The Internet Member

    Agreed. But there are some side effects when third parties many miles away weigh in on judgment calls concerning the management of volatile crowds. One big side effect: the grunts on the ground find themselves disempowered. They will be in big trouble if they allow bad stuff to happen. But they also will be in big trouble for using physical force to make crowds move. The higher ups will be swift to throw them under the bus either way, due to a local situation becoming a high stakes national or international game.

    People in such situations become robots. They surrender about 20 IQ points and do as they are told even if that is fail. If they are told, “We need to move people out right now because we cannot afford overtime for anybody,” then dammit that is what the grunts will do. No time for nuanced decisions regarding journalists, old people, etc.
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    Sanity in an elected official



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    True. In this situation the more senior people are more to blame. It's them (and the politicians that set the laws) that decide weapons and tactics.

    For example, in my jurisdiction rubber bullets are not legal for police use. Police have individual cans of pepper spray but (I think) no CS gas. And they manage to police riots quite effectively (although not without occasional accusations, occasionally merited, of police brutality).

    Dogs and horses can be quite effective in controlling crowds without too many injuries to bystanders and non-violent protesters.

    neigh-way-masked-fan-squares-horse.jpg

    Baton charges aren't good, but they're not nearly as bad as the indiscriminate violence of firing baton rounds into a crowd.
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  30. Rockyj Member

    Torture is never okay. Human beings can never call themselves civilized as long as we believe its okay to torture or take another human being's life.
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    I haven't watched her show yet because I live in different time zone...however, I can't wait to watch it when I get home tonight (after work) shssh! ;-)

    http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025382623
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    Attorney General Eric Holder Speaks To Michael Brown's Parents

    Attorney General Eric Holder on Thursday spoke with the parents of Michael Brown, an unarmed teenager killed Saturday by a police officer in this St. Louis suburb, The Huffington Post has learned.

    Holder, who also issued a statement on the shooting and ensuing protests in Ferguson, promised the family a full and independent investigation, according to a person briefed on the matter.

    A lawyer representing Brown’s family told CNN Thursday afternoon that he and the family had met with officers from the Justice Department’s Community Relations Service, a secretive peacekeeping arm of DOJ that helps soothe tensions in communities across the country. Attorney Anthony Gray said the family felt “way more comfortable” after the meeting, which took place at the U.S. Attorney’s Office. The phone call with Holder took place there as well.

    Continued at www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/08/14/eric-holder-michael-brown_n_5680093.html
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  36. cuedude Member

    we are not here to doll out violence posting the officers name serves no one we are here to post the truth a man was killed reporters were abused police failed facts are blurred we are here to see that do process is served and followed we are not judge and jury but we do demand the truth
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  37. meep meep Member

    I agree but I wish you could spell
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  38. cuedude Member

    English was my best subject too just getting senile hey I'm old or could be the weed but don't tell you know who
  39. meep meep Member

    Sue?
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