Ron Paul

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Hoyelu, Aug 14, 2011.

  1. Loki's spawn Member

    Let's play a game, shall we?
    Thanks for playing!
  2. Anon_Jon Member

    So you don't think an author or e-zine should have credibility and be known/respected as an unbiased medium?

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  3. xenubarb Member

    Likely the other way round. I'm the one they call when they get snakes in their garages.
  4. lulzgasm Member

    But I thought you didn't know them....
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  6. Doctor Zaius Member


    On topic: I think this guy makes a decent point about the cult-like behavior displayed by a lot of Ron Paul supporters.

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  7. lulzgasm Member

    So....his evidence of said "cult-like behavior" is a quote-mined, 3-second-long, taken-out-of-context clip (btw, the FULL RP vido of that was actually about whether or not the federal government has any authority to decide one way or the other on said issue, and RP's stance is that the States should decide and that no President should use the force of law against people seeking abortions regardless of said Presiden'ts view on it), followed by a tl;dw pointless rant with no substance?

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  8. Anonymous Member

    Ron Paul: Right on Cannabis, Batshit Insane on Everything Else.
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  9. Anon_Jon Member

    Ya know, that's the best thing about RP imo... Minimize the fed and let the states step it up. That way, if a state is particularly fubar, you can always move to another state. There's no reason to destroy an entire nation, not when it's already conveniently setup in a way to prevent annihilation. Let's let the liberals, democrats, republicans, libertarians, tea party, capitalists, socialists, and communists each have their own state and see how it turns out. That way the fed can narrow their focus on things like defense and foreign policy and stop fucking everything up. It'll be a fun little science experiment.
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  10. grebe Member

    We fought a bloody war that destroyed a generation in order to preserve the Union. We're not going to devolve into a bunch of crazy states all following their own culty ideas.
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  11. Anon_Jon Member

    It's funny how we're taught that in school, but like any conflict, there are two sides. The losing side wanted to utilize slavery in order to keep the cotton-crop cash cow going and allow states the right of nullification (which is a State's right to declare a stupid law, passed by the Fed, stupid). One of the problems in those days was that nearly all of America's military were militia. That is not the case today. Without full-on revolution the US will never have a decentralized government like it did prior to the Civil War, but that doesn't mean that the states can't be given more liberties than they currently possess.
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  13. lulzgasm Member


    You damn dirty ape.
  14. lulzgasm Member

    So, uh, is "cult" the new "commiewitchpagansatanistheretic"?
  15. Anonymous Member

    And in other news, Ron Paul isn't dead yet.
  16. grebe Member

    No, it's a specific complaint.

    Humans are naturally cultish. But cults distort reality for people. Cults make their own facts.

    Education, science, engaging with people from around the world --that's how humans have lifted themselves up from their tribal nature.

    It might *feel* good, devolving into 50 distinct tribes. But it's a step backward intellectually and socially.

    BTW, you know who also likes the libertarian anti-Federal government memes? The Moonies.

    I do not think the Moon family or their pal, Kim Jong Il, are in favor of weakening US Federal power because they have our best interests at heart.
  17. lulzgasm Member

    You let me know how well that works for you. As it is, I'm having trouble finding a high school graduate from any of those wonderful federalized schools who even know who the fuck Abraham Lincoln is. I shudder to think of what would happen to their poor wee brain cells if I ever asked them who wrote The Scarlett Letter.
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  18. Anonymous Member

    ... and even fewer that know of his wanton murder of citizens of the southern states.
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  19. grebe Member

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  20. 3rdMan Member

    Lots of reasons for this.
    1) Gov't has been extracting money from education for years to pay for wars.
    2) Public education was started by teachers, an occupation disliked sense it began with the working woman, something society disliked 200 years ago. For some reason that transformed into hating teachers in general.
    3) Lots of parents don't like public education cause it isn't teaching what they want their children to learn. Or they do not like the concept of the government teaching my kid.
    4) Government tries to fix schools by simplifying the problem to something that really is not the issue and punishes schools that have few resources to begin with for not doing a better job. (aka Race to the Top and NCLB), and the proportion of the U.S. citizens who loudly demand government simplify problems and come up with quick fixes are to blame as well.
    5) Parents get adversarial with schools, often leading to threats to lawsuits to get their way. This leads schools to adopt policies to just appease parents sense they cannot afford a million dollar a year legal representation. Even if it makes the child retarded.
    6) Culturally, America has less appreciation for education and greater appreciation for what job someone gets.

    In many parts of Europe, it is nearly the exact opposite.
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  22. Anonymous Member

    And? Does it hurt your pride that you are related to banans?
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  24. xenubarb Member

    I'm having trouble finding someone who knows how to spell 'Scarlet.'
  25. Anon_Jon Member

    Well, it wouldn't, if bananas would go find a job.
  26. Anon_Jon Member

    Well, it wouldn't, if bananas would go find a job.
  27. lulzgasm Member


    There. :p
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  29. lulzgasm Member

    Why? Because he stands for the rule of law?
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  30. Anonymous Member

    You mean his interpretation of the law.
  31. lulzgasm Member

    Last I checked, assassination is illegal under international law, regardless of one's "interpretation."
  32. Smurf Member

    To each his own, but Ron Paul, by far, is the best candidate the Republicans have to offer (though I doubt he has any chance of being the party nominee).
  33. adhocrat Member

    Yeah, the 'interpretation' that murder is wrong.

    Obama agrees with Hubbard: "Never fear to hurt another in a just cause."
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  34. The Wrong Guy Member


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  35. Smurf Member

    There's Ron Paul... then there's.....

  36. grebe Member

    I don't know if the "Obama is a slacker" meme will stick. It worked on Bush because of his history of being a mediocre Yale student, of running an oil company into the ground, and of blowing his wealth on frivolous things. But Obama was a senior lecturer in constitutional law at the University of Chicago Law School. Slackers don't do things like that.
  37. SOJOA Member

    Making up their own facts? Much like Fox News and most of the GOP.

    BTW Kim Jong Il has invisible cell phones and is the greatest hacker in the world. He is monitoring this right now.
  38. grebe Member

    The Moonies aren't entirely a joke. They appear to run an unregulated financial channel between Korea-Japan-US.
  39. SOJOA Member

    Nothing any other government hasnt done before. They have their own military and black ops but when your country is as poor and deprived as they are that "empire" isnt going to last alot longer.
  40. Anon_Jon Member

    Hmm, censored you say?

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