Russia: Police seize recording equipment in Moscow org (Aug. 17, 2015)

Discussion in 'Media' started by mnql1, Aug 17, 2015.

  1. mnql1 Member

    Police raided the Moscow Church of Scientology on August 17, 2015 and seized audio and video recording equipment that, investigators believe, serves to record conversations and auditing sessions to later blackmail Scientology's clients. Authorities are conducting a criminal investigation into "illegal trafficking of special technical equipment" based on article 138.1 of the Russian Criminal Code ("Violation of the Secrecy of Correspondence, Telephone Conversations, Postal, Telegraphic and Other Messages").

    A short video of the police raid is available on a Russian "Life News" article:

    Sources (in Russian):
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  2. The Wrong Guy Member

    Here are four of the threads that provide some background on this:

    Police search Moscow Church of Scientology, January 29, 2015

    Russia: Police raid Saint Petersburg org, Sept. 25, 2014

    Court upholds Russian Justice Ministry notices to Moscow Church of Scientology

    Russia's Supreme Court upholds Justice Ministry’s right to examine beliefs of cult members
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  3. anon8109 Member

    Investigating Scientology's blackmail machine instead of banning books.

    Is Russia starting to do it right?
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  4. RightOn Member

    Other countries please follow suit.
    Can they please send their findings of the investigation to other countries? Pleeeeeeeease?
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  5. Aurora Member

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  6. TorontosRoot Member

    YYYEEESSS!!!! About damn time. Now they just need to be charged and eventually shut the fuck down! :D
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  7. IT appears the equipment the Church of Scientology uses to record auditing sessions is classified as prohibited surveillance equipment in Russia.

    Moscow Scientologists spy equipment seized

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    Upon withdrawal of special equipment for secret information after the search in one of the capital of religious organizations prosecuted.

    «Criminal case on signs of the crime provided by article 138.1 of the criminal code (trafficking of special technical means). According to investigators, the room used by the religious Association, located on Taganskaya street in the city of Moscow were found illegally established objects of the system audio and video surveillance, consisting of acoustic microphones and cameras belonging to the category of special technical means intended for secret information,» reports the website of the Ministry. The searches were conducted jointly with the staff of HOPE MIA.

    Source of»Interfax» in law enforcement claims that it is about the investigation into the Church of Scientology, held this year on Taganskaya street. Then Scientologists suspected of fraud with the land.

    Recall that in early July Izmajlovsky court of Moscow has recognized lawful the refusal of the Ministry of justice to register the Church of Scientology as a religious organization. Previously part of Scientology materials were recognized as extremist and included in the Federal list of extremist materials.

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  8. BigBeard Member

    I wonder how many state level privacy laws in the US are being violated by having audio/video equipment recording auditing "confessional" (as the Cof$ calls them when trying to fight court orders to release PC folders) sessions??

  9. TorontosRoot Member

    That is going to be very useful when used against the cult in other parts of the world when protesting. When it's overlooked and made obvious, then it gets investigated. I wonder what it would be like if they got charged in the supreme court in the UK, Europe, Canada, mexico and the US?
  10. mnql1 Member

    Moscow-based Church of Scientology allegedly spied on visitors - report
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  11. BigBeard Member

    Good. The State Department will have a hard time with a "religious persecution" claim against hard evidence of video and audio surveillance of the "auditing" area. Blackmail and extortion are criminal actions, not protected religious activities.

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  12. mnql1 Member

    Russia Today: Moscow Scientology church spied on visitors to blackmail them

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  13. RightOn Member

    Brb shower
  14. Anonymous Member

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    Thank you to all those Russian Merchants Of Chaos!
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  15. TorontosRoot Member

    HAHAHAHAHA they did it again. Scientology got what was coming for it... You just don't FUCK WITH RUSSIA!!! :D
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  16. mnql1 Member

    Translation of a Russian article posted on August 19, 2015 on the website of the RIA Novosti news agency:
    Представитель церкви: деятельность сайентологов не противоречит закону
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  17. DeathHamster Member

    Narf! Those are the cameras which are now installed in all auditing rooms by David Miscavige's orders.
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  18. Quentinanon Member

    Freedom of religion does not subsume freedom of the religion to spy.
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  19. TorontosRoot Member

    Or freedom of cult to violate religious statuses
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  20. anon8109 Member

    She declined to comment further, adding that church officials learned about the discovery of the hidden devices only from media reports.

    It looks like the Scientology corporation is laying the ground work for a scapegoat in Moscow to take the fall, claiming as it often does, that it was one rogue individual who committed the crimes, when in fact it's the cult leader. It's always the cult leader, David Miscavige.

    Ex-members have come forward claiming that recording devices are installed in the auditing rooms, in particular at the celebrity center in Hollywood.
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  21. BigBeard Member

    I'd like to see the FBI grow a pair and show up at the Celeb Centers and Idle Morgues with search warrants to check for hidden recording devices in the "confessional" (auditing) areas. Having proof "priest/penitent" sessions are recorded would blow the Cof$'s foot dragging on releasing records to the courts out of the water.

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  22. Anonymous Member

    Based on my readings, I'm having doubts that the Russian Authorities are acting on any "invasion of privacy" legislation. It seems to hinge on obtaining and using technology that is banned by the government, in terms of importation of embargoed materials to Russia. I could be wrong.

    Whether or not the American FBI could raid for the purpose of investigating privacy invasion of priest/penitent conversations is unknown to me.
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  23. DeathHamster Member

    The courts weren't too impressed by the claim that the 259 staff who looked at Laura DeCrescenzo's folders were all ministers under priest/penitent rules. Getting caught with full recordings would sink that, I hope.
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  24. Please note that is a very precisely worded statement.

    She is not saying that the church first learned of the existence and placement of the hidden devices only from media reports.

    She is saying only that the church learned of the "discovery of the hidden devices only from media reports."

    Big difference, but one that will be lost on many readers.
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