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Ryan Hamilton files federal lawsuit against Narconon Fresh Start in Nevada

Discussion in 'Narconon' started by The Wrong Guy, Feb 2, 2014.

  1. JohnnyRUClear Member

    It's like a zombie outbreak, only kind of in reverse.
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  2. anon8109 Member

  3. The Wrong Guy Member

    Ryan Hamilton’s plan to consolidate his lawsuits against Scientology rehabs is denied | The Underground Bunker

    We’re so used to Las Vegas attorney Ryan Hamilton running roughshod over his opponents, this comes as a bit of a surprise. But Hamilton’s attempt to have his many lawsuits in several states against Scientology’s drug rehab network Narconon consolidated into a single federal court in Nevada was rejected on Friday.

    Consolidating the cases would have simplified things for Hamilton — with so many cases (27 filed in total), they’re generating many motions which are very similar to each other.

    But the US Judicial Panel on Multidistrict Litigation found that the cases, while similar, had enough differences to argue against consolidating them into one court.

    Continued here:
    http://tonyortega.org/2015/02/08/ry...awsuits-against-scientology-rehabs-is-denied/
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  4. anon8109 Member

    Perhaps Hamilton could share some of the workload.

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  5. Random guy Member

    More pertinently:


    Now this could get interesting...
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  6. Intelligence Member


    Hamilton is a Tiger on Fire with unbound energy, willing to take on more Cases.
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  7. This is so strange!!!
  8. RightOn Member

    It may be an easier work load for Hamilton to condense all the cases, but won't it cost the cult more money to keep the cases separate?
    I mean cost the sheeple more
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  9. Intelligence Member

    Just off Skype call with Narconon victim who has now contacted one of our favourate
    Narconon-Wrecking-Ball lawyers to represent them.

    This is the third referral in six weeks. But this one today was a very SAD case.
    more so than some I have listened to over the past few months.:(

    .
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  10. The Wrong Guy Member

    Ryan Hamilton files his 28th fraud lawsuit against Scientology’s drug rehab network

    By Tony Ortega, The Underground Bunker, May 10, 2015

    Las Vegas attorney Ryan Hamilton is at it again, filing his 28th federal fraud lawsuit against the Church of Scientology’s drug rehab network, Narconon.

    Once again, he’s filed a lawsuit against Narconon’s facility in Nevada, Rainbow Canyon Retreat in Caliente, and this time the plaintiff encountered problems with the rehab center just this year, in January.

    Hamilton has filed lawsuits against Narconon facilities in California, Nevada, Florida, Louisiana, and Colorado, while other attorneys who have been watching his cases closely have also filed them in other states. Before he started filing the cases, Hamilton advertised for plaintiffs, and lately we’ve been seeing others do the same, including a Minnesota attorney, James Rolshouse, whose TV ads our readers keep noticing. We tried to reach Rolshouse, but he didn’t get back to us, so we don’t know when he plans to file a lawsuit.

    But Hamilton keeps plugging away. We found court records that suggested that three more of his cases settled recently, which tells us that Narconon’s attorneys are cutting checks to make them go away. But that hasn’t kept Hamilton from filing yet a new case.

    This time, he’s representing Paul and Carla Savoie of Saskatoon, Canada, and they’re suing Narconon Fresh Start, the entity that runs the Rainbow Canyon Retreat. They’re also suing Narconon International, Narconon West US, and ABLE, all Scientology umbrella groups that oversee individual Narconon centers.

    On January 8, 2015, the Savoies went looking for a facility for their son, and called an 800-number at a website. They talked to Narconon representatives who told them the usual spiel — that the Narconon program consisted of professional counseling with a high success rate.

    The Savoies paid $33,000 and their son arrived at the Caliente facility on January 13.

    The next day, though, Narconon called and said their son’s withdrawal was too severe, and they sent him to another facility in Huntington Beach, California.

    At that point the Savoies were sent an “admission agreement” which explained that the Narconon program was written by L. Ron Hubbard. When the Savoies asked Narconon representatives about a connection between Narconon and Scientology, the reps denied that there was a connection.

    The Savoies didn’t believe it, and went to Huntington Beach to pick up their son before his program had even begun.

    The Savoies asked for their money back, but even after Narconon promised a partial refund, they received nothing.

    In the complaint, Hamilton then describes the actual elements of the Narconon program that he’s put together over his many lawsuits. That Narconon is thoroughly controlled by Scientology and trains patients in Scientology, and delivers none of the things it promises.

    Fresh Start is using the Narconon program to introduce Scientology and L. Ron Hubbard’s “technology” to unwitting patients seeking drug rehabilitation. This is exactly as the Church of Scientology directed as part of its “Social Coordination Strategy.”

    The Savoies are suing Narconon for unjust enrichment, fraud, and negligent misrepresentation.

    Here’s the complaint:

    Continued here:
    http://tonyortega.org/2015/05/10/ry...suit-against-scientologys-drug-rehab-network/
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  11. RightOn Member

    I like the number 30 too!
    GO GO GO People!

    Is that admission agreement new or has always been?
  12. The Wrong Guy Member

    Las Vegas attorney Ryan Hamilton makes it 29 lawsuits against Scientology’s drug rehab

    By Tony Ortega, The Underground Bunker, May 15, 2015

    Las Vegas attorney Ryan Hamilton is back filing lawsuits against Scientology’s drug rehab network, Narconon. We’ve watched as he’s filed cases in California, Nevada, Louisiana, Florida, and now another case in Colorado.

    Hamilton had taken a pause for a while as he attempted to consolidate his cases in a single Nevada federal court. But after that attempt failed, he appears to be ramping up his filings again.

    In this new action, Thomas Ferrara Sr. and Jr, of Ohio, are suing Narconon Fresh Start’s “A Life Worth Saving” facility in Fort Collins, Colorado. They’re also suing Scientology umbrella groups ABLE, Narconon International and Narconon West US.

    On June 15, 2013, Thomas Sr. went looking for a rehab center for his son. He got the usual pitch from Dan Carmichael of Narconon Fresh Start — that its sauna program had a 76 percent success rate at flushing out drugs and reducing drug cravings.

    The Ferraras were told the program was secular and involved “cognitive behavior modification therapy.”

    Instead, Narconon facilities offer Scientology training rather than drug counseling, and Hamilton once again submits a thoroughly detailed and meticulously sourced description of what actually goes on at Narconon clinics and how much they are controlled by Scientology, provide Scientology indoctrination, and recruit new members into the organization. (Hey, Frederick County councilors, how about reading one of Hamilton’s complaints? You might learn something.)

    The Ferraras paid $33,000 for the program, but Thomas Jr “became ill” and suffered “embarrassing injuries” that he continues to deal with, the complaint says.

    “Thomas Jr. also suffered emotional damages as a result of the strange methods Defendants used to treat his substance abuse.”

    Here’s the complaint:

    Continued here:
    http://tonyortega.org/2015/05/15/la...-29-lawsuits-against-scientologys-drug-rehab/
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  13. RightOn Member

    GO GO GO
    Can we has 30?

    I love how detailed that lawsuit is. Right down to every NN book they use and their purpose.
    Well done Ryan!
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  14. Got subpoenaed to testify at a deposition by Narconon regarding Welch v. Narconon 2:14-cv-00167-JCM-CWH..wondering what questions they are gonna ask me re Jack. I've known him since he was 2yrs old but know nothing about this case or any drug problems he may have had!!
  15. anon8109 Member

    Wouldn't the lawyer fighting scientology's narconon be the best person to ask?
  16. DeathHamster Member

    Umm. I'd love to dig up what I can, but is that a good idea? I Am Not A Lawyer, but courts usually like their witnesses and juries to know as little as possible outside what they've personally seen or the court has informed them.

    That said, proceed further at your own risk.

    Category:Jack Welch
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  17. OTeleventy Member

    Err... my I just offer that you tell the truth? Seriously, do not fuck with ... not the truth. You can only testify to what you know. IANAL. But I play one on TV.
  18. Jack is s good friend of mine narconon sent a lawyer they tried sending a subpoena for me to go testify against him to make him look crazy they were questioning my girlfriends brother on my where abouts
  19. BigBeard Member

    A subpoena can only make you testify, it does not control what you say in your testimony, i.e., "...go testify against him to make him look crazy...". They may ask questions in the hopes you'll say something that gives that impression, but the other sides lawyers also have a chance to ask questions to clarify answers that may be interpreted more than one way.

    IANAL, but ducking a subpoena is a good way to tick off the judge.

    BigBeard
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  20. Hello, My name is Jim Dahlen and last Thursday I sent my girlfriend to this rehab in Nevada. They charge $33,000. For treatment and it is a3-6 month rehab. These people were the nicest people while her parents and I were checking them out. One thing I didn't like was they didn't want her to bring a return ticket they even have it on the home page. Now that she is there I have called to see how she is doing and they won't tell me anything, they even became rude. Her parents got to talk to her after an argument. Now as I'm looking the place up I see it's a scienentology rehab. We had no idea. I am worried now. I am wondering if you can e-mail me so I my find out a little more about this place. We liked this because they stressed it was not a religion based program. You don't get any indication that it's a sciencetology baced program from the home page. As I write to you I'm thinking to what her mother told me earlier about her being sick for only 2 or 3 days and is doing fine now. That is impossible but would rather keep that between us in emails. If you have time can you drop me a quick note about what or who I should contact about this place. I don't like that they have turned on us as soon as she got there and that the place is a cult run rehab in the middle of nowhere my email is xxxxxxxx mod edit thank you
  21. anon8109 Member

    Pull her out of there ASAP. people have died at the hands of scientology's narconon.

    The place is run by people who just finished the program themselves, not by trained medical professionals.
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  22. DeathHamster Member

  23. I cross-posted your comment and concern to the appropriate forum on the Ex-Scientologist Message Board (ESMB):

    Man on WWP is concerned about his girlfriend in Narconon Rehab in Nevada

    http://www.forum.exscn.net/showthre...ut-his-girlfriend-in-Narconon-Rehab-in-Nevada

    There are people on ESMB who are knowledgeable about Narconon. You may want to look there, and perhaps join.
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  24. Disambiguation Global Moderator

    Jim I suggest you register as a member here, then people can send you messages and you can give them your email privately. We don't allow emails to be posted here. It's not safe.
    Please register, there are people here that want to help and know a lot about situations like this.
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  25. BigBeard Member

    There is a ton of information available on narCONon Reviews: http://narcononreviews.net/

    Particularly on the 'Resources' tab. And the folks on Reaching for the Tipping Point have done a lot of research, and are very knowledgable about various narCONons, and narCONon clones. Their page is:
    forum.reachingforthetippingpoint.net

    BigBeard
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  26. The Wrong Guy Member

    Monique Rathbun is on the clock at the Texas Supreme Court, and more in our legal roundup

    By Tony Ortega, The Underground Bunker, February 24, 2016

    ...one of our legal helpers recently pointed out that all but five of Ryan Hamilton’s federal lawsuits against Scientology’s various Narconon facilities have now been settled. We had a lot of fun through 2014 watching Hamilton rack up 27 different lawsuits against the drug rehab system as he pried interesting evidence out of Scientology, and honed his legal complaints in ways that were brash and clever.

    But then, his attempt to consolidate all of his lawsuits — and the many similar suits by other attorneys around the country — into one giant Narconon case was struck down by a federal court. That made things a lot more inconvenient for an attorney trying to juggle cases in six different states all at the same time.

    Since then, the lawsuits have been going away. We would wager that substantial checks are being written by the various Scientology-related entities involved, but these things tend to be wrapped up without public disclosure of the terms.

    Whatever Hamilton managed to get for his clients, there’s no question that Narconon, and Scientology, have never been the same as Miscavige has moved away from the big Arrowhead model to small boutique clinics that are more about PR than fighting a societal problem with addiction.

    We’ll have more from the Narconon litigation brought by other attorneys soon.

    http://tonyortega.org/2016/02/24/mo...-supreme-court-and-more-in-our-legal-roundup/
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  27. Quentinanon Member

    It was in reality, never about "fighting the societal scourge of addiction" with Hubbard tech, but rather enriching the Leader by conning vulnerable people out of large sums of money over many years. The new business model will screen their marks to a greater degree and force them to settle through arbitration if things go wrong. One of David Miscavige's nightmares is to produce dozens of David Loves who become activitists at bringing justice to NarCONon's many victims.
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  28. I kind of think the new strategy is an acceptance that Narconon is dead as a meaningful recruitment tool. The "boutique" Narconons seem more about PR and another excuse to reg the remaining members.
  29. DeathHamster Member

    I think posting about it 12 times is spamming.

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