Re: SCIENTOLOGY COPYRIGHT INFRINGEMENTS i think it's more fail to try to prosecute ppl for wearing a quasi-military uniform. but that's just me. civilians wear military uniforms while taking part in all sorts of activities that servicemen would find offensive. gay pride parades come to mind; i've seen folks wearing military uniforms to go out drinking and dancing; i've seen military uniforms in porn. these abuses of the uniform must all fall under 1st amendment protected expression, if none of it has even been prosecuted before. i would think the wearing of uniforms associated with a religion would also be protected. wouldn't you? oh wait. you were one of the people who wanted to ban scientology books in the Russia thread, so i guess you probably agree with the idea of forbidding people from wearing what they would like to wear, if it's from a dangerous religion. EDIT: maybe you're from france, where that kind of thing goes on.
Re: SCIENTOLOGY COPYRIGHT INFRINGEMENTS No not at all. I have never heard of a religion using military uniform that copies and imitates a governments military uniform except maybe the Knights Templar but they were endorsed by the government.. character assassination. Nice technique bro. This group is masquerading as a military organization which copies the US governments military uniform. They use this to attract unsuspecting people into the organization. It is not a one off, it is not for a show. It is a prolonged illegal act spanning many years and it must stop. I can think of no other group silly enough to have ever tried this as an ongoing thing and i think it's about time these illegal practices were stopped.
Re: SCIENTOLOGY COPYRIGHT INFRINGEMENTS can the government stop a religion from doing so? i'm afraid it can't under current law. is it wrong to recall your record on the 1st amendment when we're talking about the 1st amendment? [STRIKE]The boy scouts do the same thing. They are a private club so they can exclude gay kids. Evil, evil. But they also wear uniforms based on US ranger/guard uniforms to attract unsuspecting people into their homophobic organization. it's not a one-off and not for a show. it's a prolonged "illegal" act to copy those uniforms, spanning many years. must it stop?[/STRIKE]
Re: SCIENTOLOGY COPYRIGHT INFRINGEMENTS I believe your understanding of the law is incorrect. My understanding of the law, it indeed can. It is my understanding of the law that you are allowed to practice any belief you want as long as you don't break the law. This is a clear law and it is being broken. Religions or those masquerading as one, such as Scientology, are not immune from the law. That is why pedophile priests can go to jail. Well firstly, you might want to re-read those threads as you are clearly wrong. Secondly, the first amendment protects religious rights but not it's illegal acts. Under the first amendment you can believe in cannibalism but you can't eat people. So yes, your character assassination is a failed attempt twice over. Not that i care because this has nothing to do with the first amendment or burning books. It is legal to write a book of fiction with lies in it such as dianetics but it is not legal to steal a government uniform for your own use no matter who you are. Except those exempted by the law. If you had bothered to read the link to the laws you will clearly see the boy scouts are excluded from that law. I don't understand any of this rambling. Can you try to be a bit more clear?
Re: SCIENTOLOGY COPYRIGHT INFRINGEMENTS the last time i looked at the first page of that thread you'd gotten an infraction for the 'lurk well' comment. i'd forgotten that later on you explained what you meant by that. my bad. calling me rambling and incoherent when i quoted you almost directly is either rude, or self-deprecating. but that's ok. you're definitely right about the boy scouts being exempted. here's another group of folks who've clearly imitated the U.S. naval uniform. carnival cruise lines. wanna get them arrested too? A Princess Cruise lines captain: View attachment ALASKA_SHIP_PICS_001.jpg
Re: SCIENTOLOGY COPYRIGHT INFRINGEMENTS I'm thinking of private security companies, airlines, defense/military contractors. blackwater/xe. dynecorp. i could find a ton of businesses with uniforms that resemble u.s. military.
Re: SCIENTOLOGY COPYRIGHT INFRINGEMENTS Yes if those idiots go down i don't care either. Like I clearly wrote it is a grey law but can be enforced when there is clearly someone trying to imitate the American government military in order to benefit from such for their own purpose. "carnival cruises" might be doing it as a joke. If they aren't hurting anyone or taking advantage of that position , i'm not going to complain personally. But if they are using it in order to deceive people which is clearly the case in Scientology then i would complain. It is illegal, It is irresponsible. Oh and it's major Lulz.
Re: SCIENTOLOGY COPYRIGHT INFRINGEMENTS Lets just poon these guys and let the American military make that decision for themselves, shall we?
Re: SCIENTOLOGY COPYRIGHT INFRINGEMENTS if the federal government can't apply the law equally, to those other guys.... then no one is going to work extra hard to apply the law to scientology, with their deep pockets and many lawyers.... hence, what kind of drugs are you smoking? and can i have some? scientology would win in the court of public opinion. they would point to the airlines, etc, and ask why scientology alone is being singled out to have their uniforms taken away. the cry of religious bigotry would be very believable. they may be in violation of your law, i agree, but i just don't think it's going to work.
Re: SCIENTOLOGY COPYRIGHT INFRINGEMENTS Sorry i didn't realize your legal expertise and absolute knowledge in the area of being so informed, you are right this is a bad idea. What was i thinking?
Re: SCIENTOLOGY COPYRIGHT INFRINGEMENTS It would be good to get some other opinions on this. And this needs a new thread.
Re: SCIENTOLOGY COPYRIGHT INFRINGEMENTS indeed, my fail should be preserved. thanks for the schooling, honestly - i'll click thru the link of the next guy i try to rebut.
Re: SCIENTOLOGY COPYRIGHT INFRINGEMENTS the law, in essence, is to prevent people from impersonating servicemen. For example, if you claim to be a sailor who won the naval cross and what not, they will arrest you and charge you with wearing medals you didn't earn, and the like. In this case, it "might" be used because of the private navy aspect. and thats a big "MIGHT!"
Re: SCIENTOLOGY COPYRIGHT INFRINGEMENTS What Do Jay Gary And Scientology Have In Common? "WATCHING A&E, November 11, 1999 - ON SCIENTOLOGY, I NOTICED THEIR FLAG: A WHITE PENTAGRAM ON BLUE BACKGROUND GARNISHED WITH ACACIA BRANCHES, A SYMBOL OF ETERNAL LIFE AND PEACE. The symbol on the flag WAS THE SAME AS JAY GARY'S SYMBOLISM IN HIS LITERATURE. Scientologists also use two triangles interconnected within their Logo which is a form of the star of David upside down." Changes in the Church
Re: SCIENTOLOGY COPYRIGHT INFRINGEMENTS Here's one: Scientologists Descend on Minneapolis Collapse Site August 3, 2007, Marcus Baram, ABC News
Re: SCIENTOLOGY COPYRIGHT INFRINGEMENTS bump http://forums.whyweprotest.net/325-...omain-names-causing-consumer-confusion-68568/ markrathbun.wordpress.com/2010/06/25/david-miscavige-wants-to-be-like-mike/
Re: SCIENTOLOGY COPYRIGHT INFRINGEMENTS Use of the FIFA world cup and their logo: http://forums.whyweprotest.net/123-leaks-legal/various-leaks-emails-70459/#post1303262
Re: SCIENTOLOGY COPYRIGHT INFRINGEMENTS not without written permission according to the FIFA 19. TRADEMARK AND COPYRIGHT INFORMATION A. FIFA, the FIFA logo, the emblems and mascots of FIFA events including the emblem and mascot of the 2010 FIFA World Cup South Africa™ and other FIFA logos and product and service names are trademarks and copyright material of FIFA (the "FIFA Marks"). You agree not to display or use the FIFA Marks in any manner without FIFA's prior written permission. FIFA.com - TERMS OF SERVICE
Re: SCIENTOLOGY COPYRIGHT INFRINGEMENTS Fair use does not extend to commercial activities. which is what Scientology fund raising flyers are. Poon the organizers. They can get a quarter million dollars from the cult per infringement.
Re: SCIENTOLOGY COPYRIGHT INFRINGEMENTS Blatant misuse of the FIFA world cup itself ?( it is the SAME one on their webiste) and the FIFA logo in the background on their flyers http://forums.whyweprotest.net/123-leaks-legal/various-leaks-emails-70459/#post1303262 Contact the FIFA: FIFA-Strasse 20, P.O. Box 8044 Zurich, Switzerland Tel : +41-(0)43 222 7777, Fax : +41-(0)43 222 7878. POON!!! http://www.fifa.com/contact/form.html
Re: SCIENTOLOGY COPYRIGHT INFRINGEMENTS Its like $cientologists don't have an original creative thought in their brainwashed little heads.
Re: SCIENTOLOGY COPYRIGHT INFRINGEMENTS how can they? Outside of Hubbard's Sci fi books, neither did he. He stole everything from everywhere, they are just keeping up with tradiition! LOL!
Re: SCIENTOLOGY COPYRIGHT INFRINGEMENTS LOL! SO VERY TRUE! Yes they do well mimicking the idiotic behaviors & out right plagiarism of a psychopath.
Re: SCIENTOLOGY COPYRIGHT INFRINGEMENTS I use pieces of copyrighted works quite regularly, but it's covered under Fair Use...partially because I'm not using any of it to make money/sell a product, etc.
Re: SCIENTOLOGY COPYRIGHT INFRINGEMENTS Newest COS use of copyrighted material They used the Queen's crest in "Ron's Home" issue http://forums.whyweprotest.net/123-...new-publication-saint-hill-71292/#post1315602
Re: SCIENTOLOGY COPYRIGHT INFRINGEMENTS Just found this, but it's prolly old news: "Although there are those who would rather you didn't use the word "Scientology", they cannot prevent it. It is interesting to learn that the actual word is not new. It first appeared in 1910 in a book called "The New Word" by Allen Upwood. Mr Upwood defined the word as the study of knowledge. The word also appeared in a 1934 German philosophical book in the form of "scientologie" So Hubbard even stole the name Scientology? I didn't know that http://www.truthaboutscientology.com/read/reconnection/issue04.html
Re: SCIENTOLOGY COPYRIGHT INFRINGEMENTS newest Halloween "blast was fun " picture for Ohio Org used a still from Michael Jackson Thriller and a still from the movie poster of Frankenstein http://forums.whyweprotest.net/123-leaks-legal/columbus-ohio-org-email-spam-73118/#post1347211
Re: SCIENTOLOGY COPYRIGHT INFRINGEMENTS They ripped off the Matrix too http://forums.whyweprotest.net/123-leaks-legal/scientology-orlando-73584/#post1356106
